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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights







AGE / VALUE:   Folder info needed posted by: brent on 4/24/2000 at 9:48:04 AM
I recently bought a Fuenrich Super Star folding bike. I've been looking everywhere for info, but haven't been able to find anything on it. It's got 12 inch wheels and weighs about twenty pounds. The woman I bought it off of said '50s, but I don't think there is any way it could be that old. Maybe 60s or early 70s. It says it was made by Falter in West Germany. Single speed with coaster brake (I haven't been able to read any makers marks on the hub), full fenders and front and rear racks. Rides out surprisingly well. Anybody heard of one of these?

Thanks
brent







MISC:   Splitting out Musclebike and Hi-wheeler posted by: Menotoym Vintage Bicycles - OldRoads.com on 4/22/2000 at 8:58:56 AM
We're in the process of splitting out Musclebike and Hi-Wheeler topics from the Balloon tire and Middleweight topics.

This will help keep topics more organized and is also one of the steps we're taking to improve performance.

Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles
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WANTED:   Rocket Ray posted by: Pee-Wee on 4/21/2000 at 9:14:21 PM
Anyone got a Rocket Ray for sale?







BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by: Ben on 4/20/2000 at 1:38:52 PM
I recently aquired a rough old 24" balloon tire bike and I need some help identifying it. I have a hunch that it was made by Schwinn, but I am not sure. It has New Departure front and rear hubs. It has double top tubes...the top one is arched and the bottom is perfectly straight. The serial number is C12629 56, and it is located under the bottom bracket. The 56 in the serial number almost looks like it was stamped seperately from the rest of the serial number. The bike also has mounting brackets for the rear fenders (I think this is common with Schwinns.) Any ideas as to what I have here? Any help would be apprecaited.


   RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by Kevin C. on 4/21/2000 at 4:38:11 AM
The Schwinn serial number chart is at this website, so you can check the date of manufacture. If it also has frame tabs for the chainguard, chances are it's an old Schwinn. A built-in kickstand is another sign to look for. As Captain Kangaroo used to say, "Schwinn bikes are best!"

   RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by bob on 4/21/2000 at 7:58:32 AM
Also look for blade type fork, smooth joints, tabs on the rear dropouts for fender braces.

   RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by Ben on 4/21/2000 at 7:24:33 PM
Thanks for the info. The bike does have tabs on the rear dropouts for the rear fender. It also has the blade style front fork, and very clean joints. It does not have a mounting bracket for the chain guard, or a built-in kick stand. It does have a built-in mounting plate for the kick stand. Still think it's made by Schwinn? If so, any idea what model it might be?
Thanks, Ben

   RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by Ben on 4/21/2000 at 7:26:27 PM
Thanks for the info. The bike does have tabs on the rear dropouts for the rear fender. It also has the blade style front fork, and very clean joints. It does not have a mounting bracket for the chain guard, or a built-in kick stand. It does have a built-in mounting plate for the kick stand. Still think it's made by Schwinn? If so, any idea what model it might be?
Thanks, Ben

   RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by Gordon on 4/21/2000 at 8:08:19 PM
Can you describe the pattern in the chainring (front sprocket)? Many bikes can be i.d.'d this way.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by Ben on 4/22/2000 at 3:31:22 AM
The best way I can describe the chainring is that it has four crescent shaped cutouts that make it look like a swirl.

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by Gordon on 4/22/2000 at 6:05:41 PM
I've seen that pattern before but can't remember what it is. It definately isn't Schwinn.

   RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by sam on 4/23/2000 at 8:42:49 PM
I bought a junker schwinn too that had what sounds like the same chainring.Take a look at the Monarks.I think you may find this type there.Most likely two bikes put together.

   RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by sam on 4/23/2000 at 8:43:31 PM
I bought a junker schwinn too that had what sounds like the same chainring.Take a look at the Monarks.I think you may find this type there.Most likely two bikes put together.

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by Wings on 4/23/2000 at 10:46:16 PM
1. My information indicates you have too many digits for a Schwinn Serial number. They have 5 or 6 digits with 1 or 2 letters. I have never seen a space like you have indicated prior to the 56.
2. Not a Schwinn chain ring. Check on the bearing cover on the bottom bracket on the left side of the bike.
Do you see and "A or S" in combination or a little symbol with some stars? Sometimes "Schwinn" also. This would indicate a Schwinn bearing set.
3. Clean joints? What do you mean? A Chicago (not Taiwan) Schwinn has curved joints. No sharp angles at the two joints at the head tube.
4. 1 inch pitch on chain ring? Or regular tooth spacing for the chain.
5. I have seen only one Schwinn similar to that but it had the seat stays come up to the seat post and then go as double tubes straight (no arc) to the head tube. Above it was a single tube in an arc.
6. I have a top double tube bike with a single tube underneath in an arc and It is a Rollfast.

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   What have I got here? posted by Wings on 4/23/2000 at 10:55:22 PM
A. Schwinns did not have a plate for a kickstand. They had a little tube (triangle on one end) for the kickstand to fit in. Some older Schwinns were made without any kickstand mount!
B. I read your statement again on double tubes. I take it to mean two tubes side by side on top (running "parallel" while a single straight tube is several inches below that. Is that what you mean? If you meant a single tube over a single tube, one of which was straight, that was popular in 24 inch boys bikes.






AGE / VALUE:   What Do I Have-- What's it worth? posted by: chris on 4/18/2000 at 4:29:52 PM
Hi, I have a SEARS bike, Baloon tires size 26x1.75 W.W.,The bike is all chrome except tank,rear rack,&bottom of front fork, These are torquoise--greenish. It has a headlight built into the tank & tailight under the rack. Tailight has Celia Electric Co. Marion Indiana stamped on bottom.serial # is 502 469100 270665. Rear wheel nut may be blocking part of #. Can anyone HELP?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What Do I Have-- What's it worth? posted by JOEL on 4/19/2000 at 7:46:43 AM
Sounds like a Sears Flightliner or Spaceliner. Look in the picture database to confirm.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What Do I Have-- What's it worth? posted by Rif Addams on 4/20/2000 at 11:14:52 AM
Yeah, that sounds alot like my Roomates J.C. Higgins 'Fligtliner" or a spaceliner.
From the description it sounds like the deluxe model. Does it have a springer fork assy.?
I love those early Higgins middleweights, they're so 'SWOOPY', such graceful flowing lines to 'em.
Rif






MISC:   Performance posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 4/18/2000 at 6:38:48 AM
Hello all,
Performance on our site has been pretty poor lately. We're getting
around 2000 unique visitors each day and over 10,000 hits each day.
We're working on improving performance on our site by:

1) reducing the display ads.
2) archiving discussions and improving our database performance.

This will take a few weeks. Please bear with us...

Regards,
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BALLOON:   Western Flyer X-53 posted by: Mike on 4/16/2000 at 2:54:19 PM
I have a boys Western Flyer bike that I rode as a child in the 50's. The bike had been stored at my parents place all these years. I painted the bike when I was a kid and now I would like to restore it to the original color scheme. The problem is that I can't remember how it was painted. I do remember that it was red and black with a lot of chrome. The serial number is 171156. I assume the bike is a 1956 model since that was about the time I got it. Can anyone tell me where I can find the details for this bike? Also, when I was a kid I changed the spring action front fork and fender to a standard fork so I am looking for the correct fork for this bike.


   RE:BALLOON:   Western Flyer X-53 posted by Gordon on 4/16/2000 at 5:35:23 PM
Check out the one on eBay Item #305740456. The auction is over in about 22 hours. I would suggest you right click on the picture and save it as a file so you can refer to it as you do your restoration. Good luck finding the springer.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Western Flyer X-53 posted by Mike on 4/17/2000 at 4:42:04 PM
Thanks Gordon. I printed the picture of the e-bay bike for reference. Do you think I'll have a hard time finding a springer? I don't have a good feel on how to go about locating parts. Through the internet I found out that there is a big bike show / auction in Ann Arbor, Michigan on 4/30. Does anybody know if that would be a good place to look for parts?

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Western Flyer X-53 posted by Gordon on 4/17/2000 at 7:59:05 PM
I'm guessing the springer will be difficult to find, but then you never know. Bike shows and swap meets are good places to look, and there are several wanted boards besides this one. There is one at http://www.thecabe.com and another at http://www.schwinn.com/forums/collectornet.html that you might try.

   X-53 Springer posted by Ray on 4/17/2000 at 8:26:47 PM
Check out what is on ebay. It is not mine but just what you need for your X-53.
Sometimes we all get lucky.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=307349801

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Western Flyer X-53 posted by Glenn P. on 4/18/2000 at 7:03:55 AM
Murrays from the 50s also shared the same springer as the X-53. ChestnutHollow also specializes in X-53 restorations.






AGE / VALUE:   Eatonia Glider??? posted by: David Bilenkey on 4/16/2000 at 2:09:44 PM
Yesterday was our spring police auction. I picked up a few neat things, but one requires some detective work.
It's headbadge says "Eatonia Glider" and below: "The T. Eaton Co, Canada" So it's a depertment store bike! ;-) It's a one speed coster balloon type.
A ladie's frame. It's been repainted sloppily a couple of times but seems to have originally been a mettalic blue. The headbadge is all that remains of the original markings, but component-wise it has:

Brampton cottered steel cranks
A Perry B-100 coaster brake rear hub (39-14 stammped into the shell)
The rims are British F type steel chromed 36 hole (badly rusted and painted with silver paint)
The rear tire is a white walled Continental 28 x 1.75 (both tires are to be replaced)
I'm about to start stripping it down and giving it a new life but some history first would be great.

Any help in determining the age of this bike would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

David


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Eatonia Glider??? posted by Kenneth on 4/19/2000 at 8:19:25 PM
I performed a full restoration on an identical bike 3 years ago, complete with all 5 decals. I will Email you with details with this Made in Englend bike circa 1962






MUSCLE BIKES:   WANTED HUFFY SLING SHOT AND posted by: JOHN on 4/16/2000 at 1:50:43 PM
Iam looking for a HUFFY SLINGSHOT FROM 1970

AN AMF FANTASTIC ONE AND A ROLLFAST TOP DRAG FROM 1970 . THESE BIKES RESEMBLE THE SCHWINN KRATE . PLEASE EMAIL WITH ANY INFO. I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A LONG TIME .

THANKS

JOHN







MISC:   Monark posted by: Pee-Wee on 4/15/2000 at 5:09:38 PM
Could someone answer my question-why and when did Monark go out of business?


   RE:MISC:   Monark posted by Gordon on 4/16/2000 at 10:32:57 AM
I'm not sure, but it must have been in the late 50's or early 60's. I heard when they switched springer setups they got into patent infringement problems with Schwinn. Their later bikes were obviously built by someone else, probably Huffy.

   RE:MISC:   Monark posted by bob on 4/18/2000 at 8:25:13 AM
They made middleweights in the 60s.






MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Typhoon age? posted by: Jim Wallace on 4/15/2000 at 6:46:40 AM
I'm trying to determine the age of my recent acquisition. I have found the web pages showing serial numbers vs. year, but can't locate the serial number on the bike itself. I've looked all over (well, not quite I guess...)
Question #2: Can you still get the decals? I want to repaint it - I have read why I should not, but the paint is really rough. And what does one do about the white rims? I don't want to scrub the white off while trying to take off the rust.
Thanks,
Jim


   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Typhoon age? posted by kevin c on 4/15/2000 at 9:12:20 AM
Serial number will either be just below the Schwinn badge on the front, or back where the left rear axle bolt meets the frame. Memory Lane Classics should have all the decals for it. Unless it is something special, or has great sentimental value, my personal opinion is to try not to get too much invested in a Typhoon. They are common middleweights and you can get a nice, clean original for not that much money. Original bikes tend to have more value, to a lot of collectors, than restorations.

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Typhoon age? posted by Rif on 4/15/2000 at 8:37:22 PM
My two biggest investments are Typhoons. But only 'cause I'm a freak and LOVE Typhoons. Don't ask why, I just do. I also like 4-dr. '62 valiants, and station wagons.
Middleweights are the bee's knees to me...
Keep on keepin' on cats,
Rif 'the creature from the black leather lagoon' Addams






AGE / VALUE:   murray chopper?? posted by: ryan on 4/14/2000 at 10:46:54 PM
OK, I have a question? I bought a chopper off one of
my friends. I think it's a murray because I saw about
the same one on this website. I know it's not all original
but if it was, what would be worth. (it's around a '72)

thanx







BALLOON:   WOO-HOO! Look what I just got...!!! posted by: Rif Addams on 4/13/2000 at 11:27:26 AM
Yesterday I made a heck of a score (I think). Three pre-war frames.
1: 1931 Hawthorne Flyer
2: early to mid thirties Monark
3: early forties Schwinn B-6 W/ locking springer forks and front drum brake.
These frames are pretty rusty and crusty but I can salvage them. I got them for a pretty good price. I guess I now have enough projects to keep me busy for a couple of years!
I am SOOOO stoked! I just had to spout off to someone about them. Like i said they need a He!! of a lot of work and T.L.C. but I just couldn't pass them up!
Thanks for listening,
Rif


   RE:BALLOON:   WOO-HOO! Look what I just got...!!! posted by Oscar on 4/13/2000 at 1:10:31 PM
He shoots! He scores!

   RE:Not really related but... posted by Rif on 4/14/2000 at 2:35:42 PM
I realize this is not bike related but does anyone know where I can get a lifesize cardboard stand up of Thomas Edison?
Thanks :-}
Rif

   RE:RE:Not really related but... posted by Brian on 4/16/2000 at 2:48:16 PM
Never saw one but if you had a small pic or photo, a copy shop like Kinkos could blow it up to life size.

   RE:RE:Not really related but... posted by ChristopherRobin on 4/21/2000 at 9:00:12 AM
Thomas Edison invented a machine that would allow you to talk to the dead! I do not know if it worked but the old master spent a lot of time and made a prototype! Read the book "Wizard, the life and times of Nikola Tessla" This is wild stuff, all of it.

   RE:RE:RE:Not really related but... posted by Rif on 4/21/2000 at 1:43:42 PM
On April 26, 1876 Thomas Edison patented the tattoo machine.
Everytime I turn around there's something he did that I didn't realize. The guy just never ceases to amaze me.
Rif 8-}






WANTED:   Apple Krate Parts posted by: Tom on 4/12/2000 at 11:22:13 PM
Looking for Apple Krate parts, specifically, fenders, tires, pedals, seat


   RE:WANTED:   Apple Krate Parts posted by Kevin C on 4/13/2000 at 5:55:04 AM
I would try the buy-sell-trade forum on schwinn.com. That's where many Schwinn collectors go to buy and sell parts and complete bikes.

   RE:WANTED:   Apple Krate Parts posted by Pee-Wee on 4/14/2000 at 4:55:33 PM
Try Memory Lane.

   RE:WANTED:   Apple Krate Parts posted by Bob on 4/15/2000 at 6:33:39 AM
Hyperrays is the official Schwinn parts supplier. Should have original or repro parts you need. I think it's Hyperrays@aol.com. Someone please correct me if that's not right.






MISC:   what should i do? posted by: mike jr. on 4/12/2000 at 9:51:21 PM
hi, i have a question. over by my house there is an old
girls 20" bicycle. i know it's pretty old because it's
got a skip link sprocket. it is all there and all original.
nobody lives in the house it's at, they moved out. it's
just laying on the side of the garage. anyway the name or
brand of the bike is beretta. would that be a good thing to check up
on? please get back. thank-you


   RE:MISC:   what should i do? posted by Kevin C on 4/13/2000 at 11:08:39 AM
I would save it. Skip tooth chains can be pretty hard to find, as are pairs of 20-inch balloon wheels. It has value as parts, if nothing else.