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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights







MISC:   A balloon tire story posted by: mvb on 5/4/2000 at 5:44:34 AM
There's an old guy in my neighborhood who walks the block every day and makes a point to have a chat with everyone he sees. His name is Bob and he gets to be a bit of a bother, but he recently did have one good story. He knows I like old bikes, and he told me this:

In the late 1930s growing up in Upstate New York his family didn't have much money and he never had a bicycle.
The hardware store in town was having a raffle of a beautiful Rollfast and he and his brother put their money together and bought one ticket. One of the kids they hung around with was the son of the town doctor and he bought 40 tickets.

The day of the raffle came and a bunch of people came to the hardware store for the drawing. Sure enough, Bob's ticket was the winner. After seeing that bike in the store window for months and after having to listen to the doctor's son brag about how he was going to win, Bob couldn't believe he had the winning ticket.

The store owner called Bob up to the front of the crowd so he could present the bike to him. Bob handed him the ticket and then got on the bike and proceeded to proudly ride off down the sidewalk. But what Bob didn't realize, and the store owner forgot, was that the bike was assembled to be displayed in the window but had not been tightened up.

As Bob started to pedal down the sidewalk in front of the crowd the handlebars slipped down, pitching Bob forward. His weight shift caused the front wheel to pop off the fork, and Bob did a face plant in front of about 50 people.



   RE:MISC:   A balloon tire story posted by ChristopherRobin on 5/4/2000 at 6:48:16 AM
Thanks for the story, There are a lot of stories out there. I remember my falls off a bike too. I guess we all do. One day I will be the old guy walking around being a bother, we all will. This was nice of him to share that with you, I like this guy.

   RE:RE:MISC:   A balloon tire story posted by mvb on 5/10/2000 at 2:59:58 PM
Maybe, but you didn't have to listen to the other stories...






BALLOON:   MS 30/60 Ride on 52' Phantom posted by: Jeff in Minnesota on 5/2/2000 at 8:35:01 PM
Thanks for the tips on oiling the rear hub. Just put on the new Typhoon tires and rode it 2 miles at about 10:00 P.M. tonight. Had to raise seat and handle bars to make it more comfy for the ride. I have a few rattles to put up with, but you know what? I think it rides fantastic! Front brakes do not adjust very well without feeling a drag when coasting (which I think I may have to do alot of), but if thats all I have to worry about, thats great. Supposed to be 80 degress for this weekend ride and possible t-storms. I hope to post pictures on this web site, is that possible? And is it a good idea to order parts from Schwinn when I start to hang new parts on, or order elsewhere? Thanks again for listening. Jeff


   RE:BALLOON:   MS 30/60 Ride on 52' Phantom posted by Jeff on 5/3/2000 at 6:56:00 AM
Jeff, you can post pictures to this site from the home page. You will see a link there.

   RE:BALLOON:   MS 30/60 Ride on 52' Phantom posted by Rif Addams on 5/3/2000 at 9:04:17 PM
I hope you continue to give us details as they develop! This is SO cool, I hope one day to do the Seattle to Portland on one of my cruisers. It'll be a minute. I'm outta shape.
And please, give us the whole story after the ride, I can't wait to hear it.
What Fun!
Rif

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   MS 30/60 Ride on 52' Phantom posted by Glenn P. on 5/4/2000 at 7:38:59 AM
Whoa!! That I wanna see. Seattle to Portland on a cruiser or a ballooner? That would be cool and physically demanding. I hope it's one of the new Schwinn Cruiser Deluxe's with the Shimano 7speed rear. That's gonna be a lot of work with a 60+ pound chunk of chrome and steel between your legs. I ride about 12-20 miles after work on any of my ballooners, whenever the weather permits, here in Portland. Depending on the bike and its setup, it ain't always easy. But lots of oohhs, ahhhs, an ocassional,"hey, it's a Pee Wee bike", and always questions.

Glenn P.
Portland, Oregon

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   MS 30/60 Ride on 52' Phantom posted by Rif Addams on 5/4/2000 at 4:44:29 PM
Nope, I wanna do it on my middleweight, '66 Schwinn Typhoon Deluxe, in a gorgeous metallic red. She's a sweet bike.
Weather permiting I ride between 5-15 miles after work on this old girl. She rides really smooth.
Not that that's gonna make it any less grueling of a ride. Like I said it'll be a few before I'm ready.
Rif
Tacoma, WA.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   MS 30/60 Ride on 52' Phantom posted by Glenn P. on 5/5/2000 at 7:25:53 AM
That metallic red sure was eye candy. Same for the blue. When you do the ride, I'll be rootin' for ya'. You won't be tekkie but you sure will be cool and stylin'. Best of luck.






AGE / VALUE:   Rollfast Bike posted by: Gaspar on 5/2/2000 at 6:15:45 PM
I Recently bought a rollfast bike from a friend, the bike was found at the landfill.It is complete it looks to be possibly from the 60's, but I am unshure I need help in finding the year by the serial number.What numbers or letters of the serial number identify the year and month the bike was made?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rollfast Bike posted by Pee-Wee on 5/2/2000 at 7:23:18 PM
What features (tank, light, rack) does it have. If it has these coupled with tires that are size 26 x 2.125", odds are it could be from the '50s.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rollfast Bike posted by bookkeeper on 6/5/2000 at 8:57:30 AM
just recently purchased candyapple red Rollfast. Bike has no tank, two bars over one between handlebars and seat, headlight is a Royce Deluxe mounted on the center post; tires are Gillette Ambassador 26x1.75. Any ideas out there on timeline and/or value? thanks.






AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Bike? posted by: Ryan on 5/2/2000 at 3:36:06 PM
I was hoping that someone more seasoned might be able to help me identify a bike I have. All I really have to describe it is that it is probably from somewhere between 1950-1965, has a small tank with built in light, and has "Coast King" on the chain guard. I have looked extensively through web databases and still have not come across a bike style called "Coast King" or one with a light like mine. Any ideas? I can provide pictures if that will help. Thanks.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Bike? posted by Ryan (again) on 5/2/2000 at 4:08:49 PM
I just had a short correction. I have found other bikes called "Coast King" but I'm not sure if that is a model or a make? The chain guard also has what appears to be a logo, but I haven't been able to match it either.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Bike? posted by Gordon on 5/2/2000 at 5:12:45 PM
I believe Coast King is the store brand for the Coast-to-Coast Hardware stores. However, I'm not sure which bike company made the bikes. Possibly Huffy.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Bike? posted by Mandy on 5/2/2000 at 7:19:05 PM
I have a Coast King, They were made by Monark. Mine looks somwhat like yours but it has no headlight.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Bike? posted by Mandy on 5/2/2000 at 7:19:25 PM
I have a Coast King, They were made by Monark. Mine looks somwhat like yours but it has no headlight.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Bike? posted by Ryan on 5/4/2000 at 12:11:40 PM
Thanks for the information on the Coast King. Have you found any good sources of information about Monark bikes that might be useful for me? I would be very interested to see pictures of another Coast King. If you would be interested in exchanging photos please email me.

   Re: Need help Schwinn serial No. posted by Ron on 5/5/2000 at 3:03:29 PM
Can anyone tell me what the 1956 Schwinn Black Phantom Serial numbers start at and end at, also what was the letter used. Thanks Ron

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Bike? posted by Mandy on 5/6/2000 at 2:38:54 PM
I haven't been able to find anything on mine, sorry I haven't been much help. IF you find somethin', tell me!






AGE / VALUE:   Hollywood posted by: Mandy on 5/1/2000 at 5:47:01 PM
can anyone tell me what year this bike is? It's a pink Hollywood and it's serial # is - CN557462. THANKZ ALOT


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hollywood posted by Greg on 5/2/2000 at 5:45:14 AM
Looks like a 1977 based on the serial number chart here.






MISC:   tranporting bikes? posted by: sam on 5/1/2000 at 4:43:25 PM
does anyone have ideas on tranporting their classic bicycle other than rideing them to the shows?I would like to stay away from those carriers that strap to the car.I don't want to damage the paint on the car or the bike.


   RE:MISC:   tranporting bikes? posted by joel on 5/3/2000 at 6:18:39 AM
The sturdiest racks are the type that fit into a reciever hitch. I wouldn't carry a heavyweight bike on anything else. The one I have will carry 6 mountain bikes. Check Performance or Nashbar catalogs/websites.

   RE:MISC:   tranporting bikes? posted by Pee-Wee on 5/4/2000 at 8:07:41 PM
Well, I don't know about you guys, but my '59 Rambler carries 'em just fine!






AGE / VALUE:   schwinn racer posted by: john on 4/30/2000 at 9:13:36 PM
i just acquired a pair of shwinn racers from around 1960-mint condition. does anyone know what they might be worth?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   schwinn racer posted by Jeff on 5/1/2000 at 5:19:38 AM
If they are mint I would guess about $200 each if sold on the East or West coast. More if they are NOS.






BALLOON:   Princeton Bicycle posted by: Bruce on 4/30/2000 at 2:33:22 PM
Came across a ladies frame bicycle for sale the other day. Not sure what it is. Name plate says: "Princeton" 24-26 Murray St., Little Falls, New York. Single speed, ladies
large frame, odd looking chain guard, was nicely detailed pinstripes (was). Had a kickstand which lifted back wheel off the ground. Appears to be a 1940's, but not sure. Can anyone provide additional info and/or possible value?


   RE:BALLOON:   Princeton Bicycle posted by Pee-Wee on 4/30/2000 at 6:06:54 PM
Well, not to familiar with Princetons, but the kickstand makes it pre-war.






WANTED:   Western Flyer x-53 posted by: wayne curlew on 4/29/2000 at 11:12:11 AM
need fenders, chainguard and tank for x-53, does anyone have any of these items or know who might?







WANTED:   Hollywood posted by: Mandy on 4/28/2000 at 5:51:55 PM
Hye, does anyone out there have any Schwinn Hollywood decals for sale? My Hollywood is pink. It doesn't have the original seat on it, there's a Mesinger seat on it right now but it's supposed to have a "S" seat on it. Does a blue one belong on this bike or did Schwinn make pink seats for some of these bikes? I would like to buy one. I would also like to buy some original pink Schwinn paint too, I'm restoring this bike, as you may have noticed.


   RE:WANTED:   Hollywood posted by Kevin C. on 4/29/2000 at 2:09:32 AM
Yes, they made a pink and white S seat. Many of the pink-and-white Schwinns were actually a color called "holiday rose," but it has faded to pink over time. I have a Schwinn Debutante that is that way. That color combination was popular for girls throughout the 1950s and into the 1960s, first on balloon-tire models, then middleweights.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Hollywood posted by CHRISTOPHERROBIN on 5/13/2000 at 9:18:50 AM
Holiday rose, oh, what a nice name and a nice color.






WANTED:   Hollywood posted by: Mandy on 4/28/2000 at 5:51:55 PM
Hye, does anyone out there have any Schwinn Hollywood decals for sale? My Hollywood is pink. It doesn't have the original seat on it, there's a Mesinger seat on it right now but it's supposed to have a "S" seat on it. Does a blue one belong on this bike or did Schwinn make pink seats for some of these bikes? I would also like to buy some original pink Schwinn paint too, I'm restoring this bike, as you may have noticed.







AGE / VALUE:   '41 schwinn new world posted by: jeff on 4/27/2000 at 7:00:07 PM
i came across a schwinn new world that the owner says was purchased in 1941.the bike has 2 hand brakes,fenders,and a freewheel, it is a men's frame, and is brown with "new world" on the downtube. can anyone give me any info on this bike?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   '41 schwinn new world posted by Joel on 4/28/2000 at 9:36:54 AM
Early lightweight bikes are not particularly valuable. (say....$25 poor cond, $100 average cond., 2 -$250 mint). Racing models seem more in demand than touring models. A great source of info is the prewar Schwinn Built Bicycles book which I believe is advertised on this site.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   '41 schwinn new world posted by joel on 4/28/2000 at 9:39:57 AM
Oops..that's not the right book. Same authors.






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BALLOON:   Phantom posted by: Jeff on 4/26/2000 at 9:12:55 PM
First time visiting site, love it. Father-in-law kept Black Phantom in shed for 25 years. When cleaning out house after his passing away 3 years ago, we came across it and now its in my garage. Rusty,fenders bent up, but all parts are in working order. I am riding it in the MS 30/60 ride for 30 miles to raise money for the MS society. I hope to restore it to better condition in the future for my son to have. Any input for restoration procedures would be greatly appreciated. I have MS but I'm not going to let that stop me from enjoying that ride! Thanks for listening.


   RE:BALLOON:   Phantom posted by jj on 4/27/2000 at 5:32:52 AM
Well, you've got a classic there, thats for sure.
There are a lot of restoration tips in the archives in this site.
Off the top of my head, use bronze wool for cleaning up the chrome.
You can buy it a any store that sells steel wool. It does an amazingly good
job on rusty chrome.
Once you've removed the rust, polish the chrome using an automotive polish like
Turtle Wax.

For the paint, compound it out using #7 automotive compound.
Then wax it.

I've got a pal who rides an MS ride every year.
Usually people have all the fancy equipment, $3000 bikes
and skin-tight spandex... I'd love to see people start
taking classic bikes on these rides. Slow and steady can
raise as much money as snotty and fast!

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Phantom posted by Glenn P. on 4/27/2000 at 7:25:19 AM
Agreed. Hi-tech sheep with a costume. If those spandex people just had capes they'd look like a bunch of silly comic book heros, Eh?

Glenn P.

   RE:BALLOON:   Phantom posted by jd on 4/27/2000 at 7:52:55 AM
Check out the reproduction parts at Maple Island Sales website. Also Memory Lane. That's the least expensive way to go. Original parts can be found, kind of pricy, but if you want to do it right, that's the way to go. Be sure to pass as many Roadies as possible on your rusty Phantom.

   RE:BALLOON:   Phantom posted by sam on 4/27/2000 at 12:18:48 PM
30 miles is a long way on a one speed,don't know how many roadies you'll pass,but best of luck.And let us know how the ride turns out.Hay,you already inspired me!well my tip is to keep those bent fenders,even if you do replace with repops.You'll run across someone who can roll them for you.Collectors like original best.( worth more)--sam

   RE:BALLOON:   Phantom posted by Jeff on 4/27/2000 at 8:17:41 PM
Thanks for the words of encouragemant. I do have one question before I ride the 30 miles. The New Departure rear hub has a oiling port for the (washers?)do I oil or not and how much oil if I do oil. I repacked all bearings and only wiped off the washers. Thanks again. Jeff in Minnesota.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Phantom posted by bob on 4/28/2000 at 9:30:36 AM
Just squirt a little 3 in 1 oil in and go with it.

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Phantom posted by Jeff on 4/28/2000 at 10:21:04 AM
Thanks for the tip.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Phantom posted by Kevin C. on 4/28/2000 at 7:08:13 PM
Use 30-weight oil in the rear hub. You need thick oil that will cling.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Phantom posted by (Another) Jeff on 5/1/2000 at 5:23:48 AM
I have to disagree with the suggestion of using 3-in-1 oil. I believe 3-in-1 oil is vegetable based and will wax up when mixed with the petrolium based oil that is already in the hub.






AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by: ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 4/24/2000 at 11:47:54 AM
I need some advice on the value of a pair of 1930 ish Elgin curved skirtguards (metal). What other baloon tire type bikes had these curved skirtguards and what do these go for generally? These were with a Murray bike and this is not my bag so I am all befuddled about it but I know enough to grab them.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by ChristopherRobin on 4/24/2000 at 11:54:27 AM
I doubt that these belong with the Murray bike I believe that the bike that these go to is not there and I can not recognize what I am looking at.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by jj on 4/24/2000 at 12:43:24 PM
Do you have a picture of them?
I assume they are not wire skirt guards.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by bob on 4/24/2000 at 12:51:10 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Murray may have built the early JC Higgins bikes. Elgin and early Higgins models had the same skirt guards. Value around $25-35.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by Pee-Wee on 4/24/2000 at 8:07:00 PM
Hey, could you send me a picture? Thanks.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by ChristopherRobin on 4/25/2000 at 10:38:09 AM
They ain't wire, that I know. I did not know that wire was used for skirt guards thanks. I will get out a picture after I buy these unidentified guards.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by Craig on 4/25/2000 at 12:41:41 PM
I have a 39 elgin skirt bike with pressed steel skirt guards that are attached to the chain guard. Sounds like the same thing on my bike.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by ChristopherRobin on 4/26/2000 at 10:18:10 AM
These are pressed steel could you please give me an idea as to the value of the braces without the rack? Thanks!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by Craig on 4/26/2000 at 12:33:58 PM
25 to 30 sounds reasonable for the pair of guards if they are in good shape.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by ChristopherRobin on 4/27/2000 at 9:43:01 AM
Thanks, I took another look and these are attached to the chainguard and they look so great. Unfortunitly, he had decided to keep them! I had 'em in my hand but I will try again and stay with it. He also had a steel clad wood rim with a early new departure rear hub that he wants to keep too. Oh, well.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Elgin Curved skirtguards metal posted by Jeff on 5/1/2000 at 5:25:23 AM
There are (were?) some pressed steel JC Higgins skirt guards on Ebay last time I looked (on Friday).