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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights







MIDDLEWEIGHT:'60 Schwinn Tornado posted by: ken on 8/26/2000 at 5:00:50 PM
'60 Tornado is a nice straight-bar model, but I'm wondering if it was a ballooner- the fenders are substantially wider than those of the same-age Corvette I compared...was this a 'heavy duty' ride? Any enlightenment re Tornado much appreciated.


   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:'60 Schwinn Tornado posted by Robert on 8/26/2000 at 7:50:07 PM
Got a '60 Tornado myself. It's a middle weight.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:'60 Schwinn Tornado posted by sam on 8/27/2000 at 11:20:28 AM
Don't have any photos of a tornado,but the 1960 price list shows an $8.00 difference between the delux and standard.Also was told they were an inport bike sold to compeat with the less costly bikes.Check out the rear hub and see who made it,may say schwinn aproved made in ?--sam

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   '60 Schwinn Tornado posted by Ken on 8/29/2000 at 11:56:01 AM
You're right about that- I was most surprised to see "Schwinn approved" on the coaster brake and then discover the axle nuts were all metric-- the coaster hub shell just says Germany; the front hub has a nice script Schwinn, and Made in Germany. Also the ends of the rear axle have the square protrusion. Who would the maker be? I'm still hoping to find a photo; my Tornado appears stock and complete, but I'm in doubt about the handlebars, stem and grips. Did Schwinn use stems other than the familiar solid casting this era? Now that I think about it, I don't remember seeing the Chicago circle on the downtube, but the headtube shape is pure Chicago. Surely it wouldn't have been cost-effective to export the technology to import Schwinn frames?

   RE:RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   '60 Schwinn Tornado posted by ken on 8/29/2000 at 3:53:50 PM
ok, I went at this backwards. Yes, the Chicago Quality logo is present, and behold, there are Tornado examples in Evolution II- I find that my bars, grips and probably stem are indeed stock.






AGE / VALUE:   Is there enough here to identify this bike? posted by: Don on 8/25/2000 at 6:12:52 PM
Here is a picture of a 1953 men's Schwinn frame.
The frame and chainguard have been lovingly protected by a thick coat of orange paint.
As you can see the sprocket cleaned up nicely, it's the reason I bought this frame.

Is there enough information in this picture to identify what model this bike was?

http://www.homestead.com/goaly/files/bike.jpg

Also, now an interesting question for all of you.
I also recently purchased a really nice girls 1950 Schwinn.
It's a complete bike in really nice shape.
It has the same chainguard, but it is a skip tooth.
....Would you sacrafice a really good girls bike to rebuild an old mens frame?

What are your thoughts on the matter?



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is there enough here to identify this bike? posted by sam on 8/26/2000 at 11:45:29 AM
I'm guessing streamliner or wasp.Leaning toward wasp account no truss rods.The chaingard seems to be off a hornet or spitfire,don't know about the sproket.Need to scrape a small bit of paint off the head tube to see what color is beneath the orange(should be ivory)

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is there enough here to identify this bike? posted by Kevin C. on 8/26/2000 at 2:14:15 PM
Wasps came in two configurations: the standard one, with normal spokes and no truss rods, and the heavy-duty Wasp, with truss rods and heavier spokes. There was about a $5 difference in price.






AGE / VALUE:   Hiawatha posted by: pickle on 8/25/2000 at 4:28:36 PM
I've seen older shelby Hiawatha's and found one reference to a Cleveland Welding model.
Not sure how many were produced. I just came across a 50's or early 60's Hiawatha that
looks like a Schwinn Cantilever frame. Anyone got info on this bike and it's value in excellent
condition?







AGE / VALUE:   Hiawatha posted by: pickle on 8/25/2000 at 4:28:36 PM
I've seen older shelby Hiawatha's and found one reference to a Cleveland Welding model.
Not sure how many were produced. I just came across a 50's or early 60's Hiawatha that
looks like a Schwinn Cantilever frame. Anyone got info on this bike and it's value in excellent
condition?







FOR SALE:   RED SCHWINN PHANTOM GRIPS posted by: Kevin C. on 8/25/2000 at 4:23:36 PM
Nice pair of original, red Schwinn chubbies, as used on Red Phantoms and other ballooners. Has "SCHWINN" in script within teardrop-shaped center. Only one pair. $25 shipped.







FOR SALE:   Rear 26 inch Schwinn wheel with expander brake posted by: Eric on 8/24/2000 at 3:09:19 PM
Located a Schwinn 26x 1 1/2 rear wheel that has an expander brake similar to the one mounted on the Pacemaker Whizzer. The Pacemaker Whizzer used an expander brake in the rear wheel. The wheel comes with heavy old heavy gauge spokes. The chrome is in good shape. I haven't cleaned it yet but it looks like it will clean up easily. This wheel was in a bike shop that closed down 10 years ago. I bought it from the an individual who brought out the shop. The cable is still intact, sorry no brake lever. The expander brake was made in Germany. I am asking $200. Photos are available.







WANTED:   Mid-late `60's AMF Roadmaster Deluxe Satellite posted by: Stan on 8/23/2000 at 9:12:42 PM
I am still looking for a mid-to-late `60's AMF Roadmaster Deluxe Satellite 20" bicycle. It should be candy aquamarine with white graphics. It's a pretty well-equipped bicycle with a removable top tank (to convert it to a girl's bike), painted rack, bright fenders (either chrome or anodized aluminum), white wall tires (originally came with Dunlops), and a fender light. Any leads would be greatly appreciated!!







WANTED:   Late `80's Schwinn rack posted by: Stan on 8/23/2000 at 8:54:52 PM
I have a 1988 Schwinn Cruiser 5 that I purchased new back in `88. I had the dealer add fenders (they're from an `88 Schwinn Heavy-Duti and they're stainless), mirror, and Schwinn appvd. Voyageur generator light set. I'm looking for a rack that was available from Schwinn back in `88 that will fit 26" bikes. Any help?
The only alternative is to buy a new reproduction Phantom 4-hole rack (the bike is black and so is the Phantom rack).







WANTED:   Bendix 3 speed hub posted by: PaulB on 8/23/2000 at 8:21:41 AM
Any idea on where to look for parts for a Bendix 3 speed hub? I need the shifter and cable at least, maybe some internal parts as I get into the overhaul.
Thanks in advance.







WANTED:   1954 BALLOON JAGUAR posted by: Rick on 8/22/2000 at 8:14:48 PM
Hi all ! I'm looking for a bike I can restore to original or a bike that is clean enough to leave alone. Please E mail me with any and all information including prices..Thank you...Rick Burnett







MISC:   Bike Holders At Home Depot posted by: JOEL on 8/22/2000 at 12:32:36 PM
Hi All,
I just bought some nice bike holders at Home Depot and I thought I would spread the word. They mount on the wall and hold the bike out from the wall far enough that the pedals clear and the hooks will flip up out of the way when not in use. I got a couple for my mountain bikes at first but they turned out to be sturdy enough to hold a balloon tire bike. (The Cycle Truck was a little too much). I now have several bikes hanging on the wall of my shop.
Best of all...they are only $5.00.


   RE:MISC:   Bike Holders At Home Depot posted by Wings on 8/27/2000 at 10:53:31 PM
I am in HomeDepot all the time and just finished putting up some very heavy duty hanger hooks. The are about 1/2 thick and covered with a black rubber or plastic and cost $1.47. The 3/8 hooks are yellow and are around 60 cents. I have not seen the type of hook you are talking about! Can you describe it more? I live in the Los Angeles area.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Bike Holders At Home Depot posted by JOEL on 8/30/2000 at 8:18:20 AM
I bought several more this week at the HD here in Alabama..... They seem to be selling out quickly. It is a bracket with two large bolt holes and a long V shaped hook that extends about a foot out from the wall. Has rubber coated hooks on the ends for the frame to rest on. The V will flip up against the wall when not in use. They are made specifically for bikes.






MIDDLEWEIGHT:   fenders posted by: AJ on 8/22/2000 at 11:57:06 AM
i have a jag mk im restoring anyone know why schwinn used stainless fenders on this model only.also iv seen jags,mk2 jags and mk4 jags was there a 3 and 5?


   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   fenders posted by sam on 8/22/2000 at 7:35:24 PM
Schwinn used stainless steel fenders on the Corvette also.Don't know about 3&5 will be interesting to hear what others have to say.The first Jags were balloons.






MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Commander III manufacturer? posted by: Al on 8/21/2000 at 8:51:41 PM
An ad for an auction listed an "old Commander III bike". I haven't been able to find the manufacturer for this model. I've searched the photos and discussion databases. Any help on ID? The auction service just said it was a bike, they weren't even sure if it was a boy's or girl's.







AGE / VALUE:   Adventures with the $35.00 garage sale special posted by: ChristopherRobin on 8/21/2000 at 9:21:39 AM
I took apart the seat post mounting hardware clip on a Brooks Leather B-90/3 bicycle seat and took apart the same hardware and interchanged some parts and I now have the Brooks Leather seat on the Schwinn Black Phantom style bike. The large cantileavered frame. A Brooks seat on a Schwinn? This should have a leather Messenger seat but it is not here yet and I could not stand the one it came with. The parts fit together and I was able to get around the fact that the seat posts on these two diffrent makes and models are of diffrent size. It does not move but I had to really tighten it down like crazy and the clamp on the old Messenger is old and rusty. I will have to take this into the shop and go looking thru all the seat clamps and do this properly. This can still move, I should not have tightened it so much, this can break on me and I do not recommend anyone try it.I was just surprised that these parts interchanged. Perhaps I will weld something together to give me peace of mind. I will consult the shop rats and see what they say. The old balloon tire bike rides really well on these Hwa Fong all white tires. A Raleigh Roadster this is not, but I still like it.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Adventures with the $35.00 garage sale special posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/21/2000 at 9:36:24 AM
The red band kickback will not shift and I have the parts and some snowy winter I'll get into it and fix it. I propbably will scare up another wheel and get out of doing an overhaul.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Adventures with the $35.00 garage sale special posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/21/2000 at 10:00:46 AM
New seats and mounting hardware are available at the Schwinn bike shops for this exact model bike. It is in the classic/ retro section with the springer forks, and fender lights and it would be safer and better if I get it there and do it properly. It is not like I cannot get parts.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Adventures with the $35.00 garage sale special posted by sam on 8/21/2000 at 4:45:54 PM
I got a trashed out Phamton for $20 it also came with an english leather seat.Seams the old (xxxx)I got it from just sawed the top off the schwinn seat post,then the english seat will fit fine(now I got to buy a new seat post)

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Adventures with the $35.00 garage sale special posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/21/2000 at 5:44:26 PM
The same instinct that tells me it is not ok to paint a bike with spray paint told me I could not saw off the post top. If I did that I could never go back to the proper Schwinn seat.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Adventures with the $35.00 garage sale special posted by Kevin C. on 8/23/2000 at 8:59:51 PM
The "little end" of a Schwinn post can be inserted deep into the frame tube, leaving the larger end for the saddle clamp. That way the same post fits two sizes of seat clamps and you don't have to cut anything off.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Adventures with the $35.00 garage sale special posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 8/28/2000 at 7:58:36 AM
Thanks, I will try this!






MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Lovely Lowrider springers posted by: Robert on 8/21/2000 at 6:02:19 AM
Can anyone give me a review of the springers sold by lovelylowrider? How well do they hold up? Quality of chrome, does it rust easily? Ease of install?

Thanks
Robert


   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Lovely Lowrider springers posted by bob on 8/24/2000 at 1:46:48 PM
I think they are the same as the reproductions everyone is selling. Chrome quality is not as good as the real thing but they are sturdy and work well. Installation is the same as any fork.