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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights







AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn crank posted by: sam on 12/9/2001 at 11:07:25 AM
I have an old dog-leg schwinn crank.How do I tell the date of it?Has A.S.&Co. on one side and on other what looks like 89 or 63 depending on which way you look at it.It's not 1963 or 1989 and can't be 1889 because schwinn started in 1895.So what do ya'll think?Any guess is better than what I have---sam


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn crank posted by Joel on 12/10/2001 at 4:19:02 PM
The numbers that I have found on Schwinn cranks seem to be consistant with the year of the bike.






BALLOON:   another old schwin appears posted by: thomas h. andrews in south dakota on 12/7/2001 at 6:14:06 AM
i aprecciate all the help,knowledge, and dedication required to mantain this site. I have gotten a quick education on old bikes and have used your discussion sites before. On to the chase.another bike i have auction accuired is a girls schwin with 24 by1and three forths. a fiesta with serial #n419791. according to the i.d.chart it is a1954. Should this bike have a rear rack, or a metal basket on handlebars? Also there There are holes in the front fender like there was a light mounted there. this bike has belived to be original handlebars with white schwinn grips. The bike is white with red pinstripes on fenders. The tank is intact with the horn insideand button still in place. Its kind of banged up but not bad enough to discourage this body man.Any comments as to rarity value or parts availability or even words of encouragment!!thanks much for all help and GREAT SITE..


   RE:BALLOON:   another old schwin appears posted by tom andrews on 12/7/2001 at 5:49:46 PM
as a follow up to this post, i noticed that this bike has too many numbers in the serial code its no mistake on my part i looked on the bike twice! is this odd or what does it mean something im not seeing!the chain guard says schwinn as does the head badge. what gives???

   RE:BALLOON:   another old schwin appears posted by Gordon on 12/8/2001 at 8:09:21 AM
Hi Neighbor! (I'm from North Dakota) According to the serial number chart in my Schwinn book, your bike was made Dec. 17, 1964. That makes sense to me since they started using the 1 3/4 wheel in 1955. Is yours an automatic 2 speed? It appears that is the only way you could get a Fiesta in 63 and 64. It was introduced in 1962. The ones I've seen have all had a fender light, usually a colored bottom half matching the tank colors, and a chrome top with an "S" on it. Rear rack also. Hope this helps.

   RE:BALLOON:   another old schwin appears posted by thomas h andrews on 12/8/2001 at 12:48:20 PM
thanks for the response to this matter gordon. I don't know if its a two speed hub or not? the brake arm says mattatauk all american. also it had a wire handlebar basket that i removed, so its supposed to have a rack on the back also?

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   another old schwin appears posted by Gordon on 12/8/2001 at 1:49:47 PM
Your hub would not be the 2 speed. They were made by Bendix and can be identified by the brake-arm which says "Automatic", or the fact that the hub has 3 rings around it, yellow or red on full size bikes, and also blue on Stingrays. It is possible that your bike was made close enough to the end of the year that it was assembled under 1965 guidelines. The 24 inch Fiesta was offered as a single speed in 1965. The front basket was an aftermarket item. I am fairly positive your bike would have had a rear rack, 99 times out of 100, if a bike had a tank and light, it had a rack also.

   RE:BALLOON:   another old schwin appears posted by thomas on 12/9/2001 at 7:09:56 PM
thanks for the info gordon. something else i noticed on this fiesta is the fenders also have one single pinstripe in the INSIDE of each fender, curiouser and curiouser huh. On another notei have found another feista style bike.24by 2.125 balloon tires. but the tubes between head and crank have a tube brace between them about midway. has new departure hub ser# l93297. not sure if its schwinn or some other makeas there is no headbadge!! the frame looks like schwinn as to the way the tubes are bronzed together.enjoy and apreciate corresponding with you THANKS T.H. ANDREWS MURDO S,D,

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   another old schwin appears posted by Gordon on 12/9/2001 at 8:11:03 PM
That is odd about the pinstripe - never run into that. You didn't say, but I assume the serial number L93297 is located on the left rear dropout. It does fit the Schwinn serial number chart, making it August 1954, last year for the 2.125 tires on all models except the Wasp.

   RE:BALLOON:   another old schwin appears posted by thomas h. andrews on 12/9/2001 at 9:37:43 PM
thanks gordon for being a wealth of info,and yes the serial # is on the dropout on this second bike. It truly is amazing what can be found in old farm and ranch yard scrap heaps. especialy since my eyes have been opened up to this new venue or hobby, for me at least. after wracking my brain for childhood memories i recall my cousin had a schwinn with a wizzer motor. years ago he gave me the engines and i asked my dad what happened to them .He says they are above in the garage but mom said he pitched them out.Talk about make me feel sick. But i know the schwinn is still in the rafters out at the ranch, if luck is with me ill let you know the outcome of this latest quest! keep you,r fingers crossed!!!






BALLOON:   Richardson bike? posted by: Dean on 12/6/2001 at 10:34:25 PM
Anyone ever hear of a Richardson 'top flight' bicycle, made in Brooklyn, N.Y. It has 28" semi balloon wheels, a tank, great headlight w/beveled glass lens. the dark orange paint is original and bike is in exellent condition, it had been wrapped in the sail of a ship many years ago. it looks like the 1920's? any information would be helpful







MISC:   Jim Huntingtons Sidewalk Bike show Dec 8th posted by: Bikeyard on 12/6/2001 at 11:47:59 AM
This Saturday Dec 8th is Jim Huntingtons open house and sidewalk bike show. Bring your best, you make the show. Location 1005 Central Street Palmer Mass.
For directions and information contact Jim Huntington @ day 413.283.4113 or eves 413.267.5230







MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Royce Union 3-Speed posted by: Bruce Shulman on 12/5/2001 at 9:49:58 PM
I have a Royce Union bicycle (burgudy or dark red color with Sturmey Archer 3-speed gears and front and rear brakes) made in the late 1950's or early 1960's which I am looking to restore. Any information about where to get parts or other information and/or how to refinish or replate worn parts would be appreciated. The bike has a cantilever frame and was highly decorated, including the following features: (chrome spring operated rack on front of bike, small chrome and burgundy rack on rear, front light operated by generator or battery, rear light operated by generator, burgundy and white handle bar streamers, burgundy and white plastic covering the cables, chrome cover over crankshaft, red/white seat with numerous springs running lengthwise underneath, red and white leather saddlebag behind seat, front and rear fenders). Thanks for any information you can provide.


   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Royce Union 3-Speed posted by Tom Findley on 12/6/2001 at 12:11:56 PM
In 1962, I won a Royce Union bike in a drawing ar a movie theater, It was donated by a local department store. They did not have any spare parts for it. The Schwinn dealer duid not have parts for it, either. The bike was made in Holland. It rode very well, and had an excellent 1 speed gear ratio. After avout 3 years, the rubber parts began to split, and some welds began to break. I could tell it was not made as well as a Schwinn.
The bikes were made to last a certain number of miles or years, and then be thrown away. You will probably have to find another Royce Union to get any missing parts off of. I recommend that you do not spend money having the chrome replated/ frame professionally repainted/new decals made. The cost would far exceed the value of the finished bike. If you would like to make it look better, clean the chrome, and repaint it yourself to get experience in bike refurnishment.
Here is how a bike can look after being repainted with spray cans:

http://www.trfindley.com/pghlnd00

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Royce Union 3-Speed posted by Paul Henrix on 2/11/2002 at 8:47:58 AM
years ago I had a Royce Union ten speed made in Italy a first class bike with great paint and later Royce Unions were made in Japan and now I own a great old Royce Union made in England and you have one made in Holland kind of interesting






AGE / VALUE:   old schwinn help! posted by: Georgia Wolfe on 12/5/2001 at 5:15:32 PM
I have a old schwinn that I got out of a basement. The thing is it was a girls wasp, but someone was attempting to make it a boys bike by changing the frame. I did get the original fram though too. the only serial number I have is N50795. i can't find this number in the data base. the chain guard says wasp. I'm told the boys frame is new departure. I want to sell this bike, but would like some help on what to do. My options are sell as is with frame included, or attempt to reassemble with the original frame. and sell seperatly I have pictures, if anyone is willing to help. my email is saga1@rcn.com
thanks Georgia


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   old schwinn help! posted by Stacey on 12/5/2001 at 11:43:27 PM
A quick look in the Schwinn Serial Number listing shows that your Wasp is either 1954 or 1956... What will determine the year is the location of the number. I believe the 54 s/n is on the underside of the bBottom Bracket ( Where the pedal crank mounts) and the 56 s/n is on the left rear drop out (where the rear wheel mounts, as seated on the bike) Good luck!

In the wind,
Stacey

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   old schwinn help! posted by Georgia on 12/6/2001 at 6:18:24 AM
Stacey,
Thank you so much for your reply! I'll check it out!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn serial #'s posted by Craig on 12/6/2001 at 5:30:57 PM
Schwinn serial numbers were stamped on the bottom bracket
until 1951, and on the left rear dropout starting in 1952. I believe they were moved to the headtube starting in 1971.

- Craig

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   old schwinn help! posted by Georgia on 12/6/2001 at 6:34:05 PM
There are little metal tags on the spokes of the wheels that say 54, I'm assuming this is the year the bike was made. I still have problem of either selling as is , or attempting to reassemble original bike? Any advice would be helpful. Also is ebay the way to go on selling this bike, or is there a better way?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn serial #'s posted by guido on 12/7/2001 at 3:41:23 AM
I thought the serial numbers were moved to the headtube at the end of 1969 or beginning of 1970.






AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Tandem posted by: David on 12/4/2001 at 9:16:14 PM
Needing a manufacturing date on Schwinn Town & Country Tandem - Serial # T004686 on Bottom Bracket.







AGE / VALUE:   MURRAY posted by: Frank Jablonski on 12/4/2001 at 5:27:23 PM
I have a Murray Shift-a-matic female's bike. It is in original condition and looks great. The numbers on it are MOT 63....735044. Is it worth anything? Can anyone interpret the numbers? Thanks for your help.

Frank







MIDDLEWEIGHT:   infomation posted by: rich on 12/3/2001 at 3:14:13 PM
I found an old bike in a barn,it has a tryangle shaped head badge with the name BAURE on it.Can anybody give me any info on this bike....Thanks







FOR SALE:   BIKE REPAIRMAN RETIRING; HUGE LOT F/S posted by: Fred Trost on 12/2/2001 at 10:33:03 AM
50-year inventory of all kinds of used bicycles and parts for sale--recumbents, 3-wheelers, adult pedal cars, odd and unusual bicycles, wacky clown bikes for parade use, 800 wheels, box after box of parts. All must go. Will sell all or any part for best offer. No email. Call 1-765-429-8300 or write to Fred Trost, 916 S. 20th St., Lafayette, IN. 47905. Thank you.







BALLOON:   Where to look ?????? posted by: DAC on 12/1/2001 at 3:25:40 AM
Hi Folks,
Hope you can help me..... I live in Phila. Pa. and when I was a kid my dad gave me an old ballon tire bike to ride and I was absolutely in love with it.

All I remember about it was that it was cream and maroon and had had the word Monarch on it.
I believe the year on it must have been around 1945-1949....I think. Those tires were pretty fat.
I went to some archive pics and saw a monarch rocket that almost looked just like it. My bike though was very plain. No rear rack and no fancy lights. I'm not even sure I had a chain guard.
I was about 8 or 9 years old and that was about 1958 or '59
when I had the bike.

I have no idea what happened to it but I would LOVE to have one like it again.
If anyone can help me out with what kind of bike I may have actually had and where I should start looking for one... I would MOST appreciate it.
It would have to be a boys bike and 26" so I could ride it.
It doesn't have to be fully restored.....I would just like to find the same bike again.
Any help would be very welcome.
Thank you


   RE:BALLOON:   Where to look ?????? posted by sam on 12/1/2001 at 5:03:22 AM
Go to www.ebay.com type in monark bicycle or just bicycle and start lookin

   RE:BALLOON:   Where to look ?????? posted by Gary M on 12/1/2001 at 6:49:48 PM
Email me i know of some. Be warned Monark male bicycles are collectible and valuable. the Silver King Aluminum Hex frame will scare ya how much they bring

   RE:BALLOON:   Where to look ?????? posted by Jeff on 12/2/2001 at 12:19:30 AM
Come to the bike show in Trexlertown next October. There should be something there like the bike you're looking for. The show is usually the first Sunday of October and is a short drive from Philly.

   Thanks Gary M......but ..... posted by DAC on 12/2/2001 at 3:43:11 AM
The bike I use to have was a Monarch.....not the Monark.
There was NO chrome on it at all. It was maroon and cream and verrry plain.
I have seen pictures of the the Monark t you that you speak of...it is waaay fancier than the bike I had.
Do you know of any plain bikes???

Thanks for your response......I appreciate your input.
DAC

   Thanks Jeff......are there any shows comming posted by DAC on 12/2/2001 at 3:46:21 AM
soon in the Philly area ??? I was hoping for something before next October.
Thanks

   RE:Thanks Jeff......are there any shows comming posted by Jeff on 12/4/2001 at 12:25:07 AM
The only other show in PA that I am aware of that is coming soon is in Butler. About a 5 hour drive out the Turnpike from Philly. Small show but it is in a hotel and is a lot of fun. The show is sometime in mid-January.

   RE:BALLOON:   Where to look ?????? posted by freddie on 12/4/2001 at 12:30:10 AM
I think I may have what you are looking for. I was given a early 50s monarch by a coworker that tired to restore it and did a very poor job.He had the frame and fenders sandblasted. AUGGG!!!!And then powdercoated a bright blue.All the plated parts were then replated. It then sat in diffrent boxes in his barn for over a year before given to me. IT has been put back together and rides great .New but correct tires. Some pitting can be seen through the paint, No stickers or headbadge.No reflecters. A working fender light but no lens He lost it.wrong grips It is a great project bike with all the parts there .I am willing to let it go cheap as it was given to me and I would like to see it back as it should be. If you are interested let me know.






BALLOON:   Rocket Ray light posted by: Mark W. on 11/30/2001 at 11:13:58 PM
Does anyone knw what years schwinn used the 'Delta Rocket Ray' front fender light, and what is the going price for a used one?


   RE:BALLOON:   Rocket Ray light posted by freddie on 12/5/2001 at 12:27:22 AM
Memory Lane Classics has N.O.S. rocket lights in stock for $100.00. High but you get what you pay for. A great looking light.






MIDDLEWEIGHT:   '58 2 spd Schwinn Racer posted by: Tony Oliveira on 11/30/2001 at 10:43:39 AM
Hi all,
first time posting here. Just picked up an old schwinn and was wondering if someone out there (hopefully someone who has the same bike or similar) can tell me exactly what an original one of these includes/looks like...a picture would be worth a thousand words here (none in the database). It has a 2sdp SA automatic kickback hub. I think everything on this bike is original except for the seat and the tires. I was wondering what the original seat is? Is it an S seat for example or something else? The back fender seems to have a hole in it (the last one near the end of fender) that would seem to indicate a missing reflector...not sure. Wondering what the original tires are like as well...whitewalls? The rims are S6 I believe and it currently has a new pair of Kenda tires. Also it looks to have some decals on it...not sure if these are original. They look too new to be. Anyhow, any help would be greatly appreciated.
tia.


   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   '58 2 spd Schwinn Racer posted by sam on 12/5/2001 at 2:23:49 AM
Tony,sorry doesn't seem anyone knows the answer.The racer was a light/weight(kids)bike.Well made but not too much interest in these type of L/W bikes.The kick back might be a bendix--S/A made 3 speeds,both were used on schwinns.






MIDDLEWEIGHT:   '58 2 spd Schwinn Racer posted by: Tony Oliveira on 11/30/2001 at 10:43:39 AM
Hi all,
first time posting here. Just picked up an old schwinn and was wondering if someone out there (hopefully someone who has the same bike or similar) can tell me exactly what an original one of these includes/looks like...a picture would be worth a thousand words here (none in the database). It has a 2sdp SA automatic kickback hub. I think everything on this bike is original except for the seat and the tires. I was wondering what the original seat is? Is it an S seat for example or something else? The back fender seems to have a hole in it (the last one near the end of fender) that would seem to indicate a missing reflector...not sure. Wondering what the original tires are like as well...whitewalls? The rims are S6 I believe and it currently has a new pair of Kenda tires. Also it looks to have some decals on it...not sure if these are original. They look too new to be. Anyhow, any help would be greatly appreciated.
tia.







AGE / VALUE:   hawthorne age posted by: david on 11/30/2001 at 4:29:04 AM
can anyone help me identify the age of my newly acquired hawthorne middleweight restoration project? the serial number is E333299, single speed hawthorne coaster hub. decals are gone. headbadge says chicago. can supply more info if need be. any info is appreciated. thanks,david