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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights







AGE / VALUE:   Need info on Firestone # 178-1-152 posted by: Scotty Allan Wright on 5/13/2001 at 9:15:51 PM
I need some information regarding an old Ladies Firestone that I picked up for $5.00 at a garage sale. The local Schwinn dealer said that he wasn't well-versed in antique bikes but that Schwinn made alot of the old Firestone, Western Auto, and Goodyear bikes, however, there is no indication on the bike that it was made by Schwinn. Key features are the original paint, which is a royal blue color, white striping,(one thin white stripe down each outer edge of the fenders), elongated white star on the forks, and a "V" at the tip of the front fender, which appears to have been white with gold outline. The Firestone plate on the headpipe is white with red logo. The rubber pedal parts spin freely instead of being rigidly attached. The seat is blue at the rear, with the front being white, thin vinyl stretched over minimal padding and the steel frame and was made by Troxel in Elyria, Ohio. There is a thin brace welded between the two downtubes, and the pedal crank sprocket is star-shaped on the inside. The handlebar grips are a transparent amber color. The frame number is 178-1-152, and is located under the crank. There are 5 city liscense stickers on the rear fender, two of which are covered up by the other 3. the oldest visible sticker is from 1969, and it covers another older sticker.
If anyone can tell me the year, manufacturer, color code/name, approximate value or anything else about my bike, I would appreciate it very much!

Thanks!

Scotty


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need info on Firestone # 178-1-152 posted by JOEL on 5/15/2001 at 2:01:51 PM
That's a very detailed discription but not enough to identify the bike... What size are the tires? Is there any info on the badge? Decals? Does it have a tank? It is likely a Monark bike (they made firestones for a long while). Have a look at the picture database and see if anything looks like it.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need info on Firestone # 178-1-152 posted by scotty on 5/15/2001 at 2:52:04 PM
Hi Joel,
I Have a picture that I found of an old Western Flyer where the frame, fenders, chain sprocket, and handle bars are the same, and definitely by the same manufacturer, the differences are in color, the luggage rack, (mine has none), and the painted wheels, (mine are natural metal). No, there is no tank, and the decals are as described except the chain guard, which I will try to describe now...It is old looking, but not bulky, starting at the rear of the frame there is a gradually descending "V" pointing forward. This "V" runs roughly halfway up the length of the chainguard. Inside the widest part of the "V" toward the rear of the frame is the Firestone "F-crest". The chainguard dips at the rear of the pedal sprocket, and throughout the depth of the dip are 4 horizontal stamped ridges. about 1 3/4 inches past the "V" decal (still going forward on the chainguard) is the famous Firestone lettering in the well-known flame company logo. It is roughly 1 1/2" high and runs 'til about the middle of the sprocket. The chainguard then hooks down, of course, to cover the front of the sprocket. The bends from the side to top of the chainguard are angular and not rounded soft ones. Tire size is 26". I will post the pic of the Western Flyer in the pics archives so you can look at it, only thing is it was a for sale bike, so the price is on the pic, hope this doesn't cheapen the archives. If you want to give me your e-mail, I can send you the photo.

Thanks, Joel

Scotty

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need info on Firestone # 178-1-152 posted by Scotty on 5/15/2001 at 3:07:18 PM
Sorry Joel, my pic exceeds the alloted space on the archive board, if you e-mail me, I'll send it to you.

Scotty

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   I'm an idiot! posted by Scotty on 5/18/2001 at 5:35:07 AM
Hi folks-new to this thing-the number that I gave before was stamped on the crank frame-THE REAL SERIAL NUMBER IS #1H351459 Hope this helps! thanks Scotty






AGE / VALUE:   35.00 for Typhoon tires? Not me! posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/13/2001 at 10:11:26 AM
I was right to make that special trip to grab these tires before they went to the swap meet. These are Schwinn Typhoon whitewall's 26 X 2.125 I got them for 20.00 the pair and they look better then the ones in the shop that are 35.00 EACH! Unfortunitly,these are still made in Taiwan. I love it when someone spots something and exclaims "Dude! Where did you find those?" Everyu now and then I gift it to them and then their eyes really pop out!







AGE / VALUE:   Evans Cutlass Ladies bike posted by: Gary on 5/13/2001 at 9:38:43 AM
Just purchased a very nice condition, all original Evans Cutlass ladies model bike. its got 26x1.75 tires, full fenders, and looks awesome. was wondering if Anyone had a midweight mens Evans frame? would like to build a mens Evans, i have 3 and they are all ladies.







AGE / VALUE:   PRE-WAR(?) WESTERN FLYER UP FOR GRABS posted by: Kevin on 5/12/2001 at 11:02:48 AM
Hi. I found an old Western Flyer balloon tire bike the other day. The stem and bars are missing, otherwise complete. it's in very restorable shape. Color was some red/ maroon with white and black stripes. I live in the Toledo, Ohio area. New owner must pick up, I do not want to ship it. Cost:1/2 gallon Breyer's mint chocalate chip ice cream ( really ) Email if interested, Kevin


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   PRE-WAR(?) WESTERN FLYER UP FOR GRABS posted by Kevin on 5/12/2001 at 1:52:37 PM
MORE INFO: s/n 6H214458. Really funky looking chain guard.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   PRE-WAR(?) WESTERN FLYER UP FOR GRABS posted by Kevin on 5/19/2001 at 12:18:05 PM
Well, tonight my family and I will enjoy 2 pints of Ben and Jerry's ice cream thanks to a very nice family that drove some distance to pick up the Western Flyer. That's what I like so much about this hobby. Kevin






MISC:   UPSIDE DOWN BIKE posted by: JOEL on 5/12/2001 at 5:52:12 AM
Someone was asking about upside down bikes...see EBAY # 1142092396







MISC:   WHO BUILT THE "HIAWATHA" ? posted by: STEVEN on 5/12/2001 at 2:12:55 AM
DOES ANYONE REALLY KNOW WHO BUILT THE "HIAWATHA" BICYCLE,I
HAVE 1 WITH A REAR RACK, A LIGHT ON THE FRONT FENDER,AND A TANK, THE HEAD BADGE READS "HIAWATHA", THEN UNDER THAT READS "GAMBLES"???????


   RE:MISC:   WHO BUILT THE posted by Joel on 5/12/2001 at 5:55:09 AM
Cleveland Welding, Shelby,Huffman,... depending on the year.

   RE:RE:MISC:   WHO BUILT THE posted by STEVEN on 5/12/2001 at 3:07:27 PM
THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY, IF I GAVE YOU THE #, COULD YOU TELL ME THE YEAR ??,,,,,,

   RE:MISC:   WHO BUILT THE posted by sam on 5/12/2001 at 4:34:58 PM
the front sprocket type would be better--most of the bike companys used there own design of sprocket---sam

   RE:RE:MISC:   WHO BUILT THE posted by STEVEN on 5/12/2001 at 9:23:50 PM
THE SPROCKET HAS 5 OUTSIDE SLOTS, AND THE CENTER ALSO HAS 5 SLOTS,,,,THANK YOU,,,,,,,

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   WHO BUILT THE posted by Joel on 5/15/2001 at 2:09:04 PM
Slots? Maybe a Huffman? It's hard to tell without a picture... Try doing a little detective work. Go to EBAY and search for all the above brands and see if any bikes or parts match yours.






AGE / VALUE:   newsboy special posted by: charles on 5/11/2001 at 7:04:44 PM
HELP! Can anyone identify this bike? It has a "Pinnele's Bicycles, Richmond, VA" (since 1867?) tag on fork tube.
Also "Harley" emblem on seat tube, and "Newsboy Special" on chain guard. It's red, old and looks very 50's but I can't find any info.







AGE / VALUE:   Single Tube Tires posted by: Rand on 5/10/2001 at 10:50:08 PM
Can anyone steer me toward a set of 26" single tube tires? Also, any tips on replacing them? Thanks


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Single Tube Tires posted by JOEL on 5/11/2001 at 2:42:53 PM
Coker Tire has 28" singletube tires, and Memory Lane sells hard ruber ones. There have been lots of tips for mounting them posted here. I use glue for sew up racing tires.






MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Bendix Red Band Hubs posted by: Bill on 5/10/2001 at 4:10:04 PM
What year did Bendix change the 28 hole red band hub from a RB with spline sprocket to an RB2 with keyed sprocket?







FOR SALE:   Huffy Camaro posted by: Chip on 5/9/2001 at 8:02:11 PM
I have a 26" mens huffy camaro. Don't know much about it.Couldn't find any info on it. It is in good shape.I believe it is all original.It has the tank and lite,
and the back rack.Email me for Pictures and more info.Or look on my web page. www.geocities.com/dubaywallhanger/
index.html







FOR SALE:   LATE 50,S "HIAWATHA posted by: STEVEN on 5/9/2001 at 5:19:29 AM
I HAVE I BELIVE A LATE 50,S GIRLS "HIAWATHA" IN REALLY NICE SHAPE, COLOR IS BLUE, IT HAS A TANK, REAR RACK, AND A LIGHT ON THE FRONT FENDER, FRONT TIRE IS A WHITEWALL, IM SURE ITS ORIGINAL,TIRE SIZE IS 26 BY 1.75, IT SAYS "VANGUARD ON THE CHAINGUARD, I WILL SELL THIS CHEAP, BUT YOU NEED TO PICK IT UP AS I AM DISABLED AND CAN NOT SHIP IT, I LIVE IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN, A REALLY NICE BIKE,,,,,THE HEADBADGE READS "HIAWATHA" WITH THE NAME "GAMBLES " UNDER IT,,,,







AGE / VALUE:   COME AND GET IT!!! HURRY!!!! posted by: Gary Main on 5/8/2001 at 6:31:31 PM
1966 Schwinn Tandem !! As nice as i have seen. ser BB. Beautiful Blue Tandem, ride it home or pick it up. Shipping may be expensive, but worth it!! $350 it wont last long at that price. some minor hardware replaced with schwinn stock, other then that all original.







AGE / VALUE:   59 Schwinn Tornado posted by: Gary on 5/8/2001 at 12:35:15 PM
just got a 59 Tornado straightbar, its different from any other type i have seen so far, the upper stays on my 62 typhoon are one peice from axle bracket to the neck, but this model ends at the seat post, and 2 seperate peices go straight from the seat post to the neck. i am wondering how many like this there are, and should i hang on to it. Its a nice riding bike, all original


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   59 Schwinn Tornado posted by sam on 5/8/2001 at 2:09:26 PM
do the front and rear hubs say made in Germany?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   59 Schwinn Tornado posted by Gary on 5/8/2001 at 6:12:22 PM
yes both front and rear say made in Germany. the letters on the schwinn logo are also out sized. I have 2 of these, one is all original, original paint, with a 2-speed kickback. the other one is original except the frame was painted. I also picked up a 56 3-speed frame.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   59 Schwinn Tornado posted by sam on 5/9/2001 at 6:20:03 AM
Hope you didn't pay too much,at present these are $30 bikes.The tornado was schwinn's answer to cheep import bikes.I think schwinn added the two bars to a flying star frame and installed cheeper contract hubs to make there low priced bike.On the up side the hubs were made by Sach the same company that made starters for VW.Sach is now owened by scram(usa)They made good hubs with good chrome.Value should increase--but at a slow rate---enjoy this one as a rider,and check out mn smiths web site(bunch of bikes)---sam

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   59 Schwinn Tornado posted by Gary on 5/9/2001 at 2:10:38 PM
well i gave him $40 for it, its a nice peice, and i like it. i ride it myself. and i feel a little guilty about some of the parts i have got from him dirt cheap.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   59 Schwinn Tornado posted by sam on 5/9/2001 at 9:06:10 PM
$40 wasn't too much.Keep an eye out at the goodwill stores for old german 3-speeds they sometimes go for verry little and you can make the tornado a super ride with one of those hubs---poor boy corvette!!--sam

    1948 Schwinn bike posted by Boris on 5/13/2001 at 12:27:20 AM
I have a schwinn bike, at least it says so on the seat tube and other parts...the people who gave it to me told me it was a 1948 model, but I don't know how to determine that, because I can't find any serial numbers on the bike..the schwinn logos are not attached like stickers they are painted on the bike's body..the bike has something like a gas tank attached between the top and the down tube..could you tell me where Ican find this serial number?..does it supossed to have it if it is a schwinn?? ..could you tell me the model?? thank you

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   59 Schwinn Tornado posted by Gary on 5/13/2001 at 9:32:52 AM
I sold a 48 Schwinn 4 months ago. it should have a skip-tooth chain, with rear facing drop-outs. should have a modern schwinn style kickstand welded on. the front badge may not say schwinn, as prior to the mid 50s they sold them to anyone and would put their name on as well. the chaingaurd should be a feather style. the serial number on it is below the crank, and probably under a foot of paint.
rear hub should be a model D. 4-leaf clover sprocket.
i had mine on Ebay, didnt get squat, wish i never sold it.






AGE / VALUE:   men's Colson Imperial posted by: Jim on 5/7/2001 at 10:14:04 AM
Friend of friends are retiring to Florida from NJ, and have asked me to find a buyer for their Colson Imperial. I've bought & sold several English Lightweights & parts here on Old Roads, and everyone has been friendly and honest. All that said, I'm hoping someone can give me idea of a reasonable asking price. I'll post photos on my Reader's Web Page, Retrocycles, tonight. Very complete, seems to be all original, paintwork is in very good condition, and would probably wax up nicely, all plated parts are covered in rust, although rust on handlebar and crankset yields nice plating from just the scratch of a fingernail, mudguards and rims will probably need replacement or replating. Headlight, tank & wiring appear to have never been disturbed. Any information is appreciated, and I'd be happy to return the favor in British bike info.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   men's Colson Imperial posted by JOEL on 5/8/2001 at 10:40:17 AM
I may be interested.






AGE / VALUE:   Fat tire cycling festival posted by: sam on 5/5/2001 at 6:31:46 PM
I see in the events guide the Port Aransas (tx)bicycle club will be holding a fat tire cycling festival on may 19-20 at 736 tarpon St. Port Aransas Tx.Event include a fat tire rally race and fat tire fishing tourney and ugly bike contest . $10 for adult-$5 kid under 16-$25 family registration (316)749-2453---I'd love to hook one of those rainbow schwinns---sam