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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights







FOR SALE:   Schwinn repop springer fork posted by: edgarecks on 10/8/2002 at 5:31:37 PM
See "General/For Sale" section for details.







MISC:   Schwinn badges posted by: Randy on 10/8/2002 at 2:26:39 AM
I got a 1960's middleweight Schwinn Jaguar, and I'd like to use the Starburst headbadge on it. The badge I acquired is 3 1/4" long, and it seems small. Does anyone know if there's a larger one? Thanks







AGE / VALUE:   AMP Roadmaster - Jet Pilot posted by: Dixie Colson on 10/8/2002 at 1:33:00 AM
I just purchased an AMP Roadmaster- Jet Pilot 24" bicycle. The man I purchased from said it was from the 1950's but didn't know what year. It has a built-in horn with a button (doesn't work though), a bullet type light, rear riding bar?, a white Troxel seat trimmed in gold. The serial # is K4-7640 (if I'm reading the right number - I'm new at this). Any information about value and age would be greatly appreciated. I have look for hours and everywhere on the internet as well as book stores, and can't seem to find this particular bike any place. Thank you!!


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   AMF Roadmaster - Jet Pilot posted by Dixie Colson on 10/8/2002 at 2:17:13 PM
I made a typing error on my original message - It is
a "AMF" Roadmaster - 24" Jet Pilot

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   AMf Roadmaster - Jet Pilot posted by Dixie on 10/9/2002 at 11:44:31 PM
Here's more information that maybe will help:
It has coaster foot-operated brake; It has gray metal fenders (unpainted); the round chain guide (not sure what's it's called - but it has star shaped cutout

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   AMP Roadmaster - Jet Pilot posted by Jimbo Jones on 10/12/2002 at 9:33:45 PM
Most likely early 60s middleweight. In general 24s don't command as much as 26s middleweights. Type in "Jet Pilot" at ebay bicycle, completed auctions and I would bet a few will come up. My guess would be Low end 5 to 25 highend no more than a hundred.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   AMP Roadmaster - Jet Pilot posted by Dixie on 10/13/2002 at 10:30:28 PM
Thanks Jimbo for your input. I guess I paid too much. He said it was from the mid 50's and was asking $175, but that it's value was $250. However, he sold it to me for $160. I'm short so the 24" was perfect for me (I guess that's one way of looking at it!)

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   AMP Roadmaster - Jet Pilot posted by Jimbo Jones on 10/14/2002 at 7:23:40 AM
Don't feel bad. I have paid too much for ever bike I own. It's a cool looking bike you got there. I have the 26 inch version. An eye for style makes up for any cash that might have been lost along the way. You have a good eye. You could have waited but why wait? Just a few bucks really.






AGE / VALUE:   Odd bicycle posted by: Hound on 10/7/2002 at 5:33:04 AM
I recently came upon an extremely different but cool looking bicycle at an estate sale in west Michigan. There were some items in the attic of this elderly couples home. I decided to check out what was there and saw this different looking bicycle. It was in very good shape and needed the tires inflated and a good bath is all. I bought it for $50.00 It says Spacelander on the frame and is blue in color. Nobody at the sale knew anything much, but a niece of the elderly couple said her uncle bought it in Grand Haven MI. back around in the early 60's. She remembers he was teased by his friends about the bicycle, so he bought another bicycle and put it away in the attic.

Is this bicycle worth much? Thanks.


   Bowden Spacelander posted by Tom Findley on 10/7/2002 at 5:26:07 PM
http://home.earthlink.net/'oldbicycle/indexBowden.html

People in Holland are wild about the bikes. Someone sold one in Amsterdam for $25,000 last year.

   RE:Bowden Spacelander posted by Hound on 10/8/2002 at 1:21:36 AM
$25,000!!!! You have to be joking? Please say you are joking because I sold it today for $375.00. :-(

   RE:RE:Bowden Spacelander posted by Hound on 10/8/2002 at 2:35:15 AM
Alright...calm down, calm down people. It was just a joke!
I thought I'd pull a good one on you bike collectors out there. Good one to get that blood flowing fast through those veins eh? ;-)
All the best to you guys and keep on hunting for that Bowden!

Hound

PS. I live in Holland MI, which is about 15 miles south from Grand Haven, home to the Bowden Spacelander. You know something...I have yet to see one in person to this day!

   RE:RE:RE:Bowden Spacelander posted by Chris on 10/8/2002 at 4:05:53 PM
It does happen! Inside that picture was another picture, a rare etching! I dropped it, smashed the glass, cut my finger, took it apart to have it re-framed and there it was. Stuff is out there, bargains some of them really rewarding finds.
Sometimes you look and look and never find it. I sit and wonder what happened to this or that mysterious thing I am searching for. What happened to it? Where is it? What can I do diffrently to find it?
The late Simon Lake who pioneered work with the first submarines doing salvage/exploration work was obsessed with finding the wreck of "The Hussar". A British gold ship that sailed up the East River and wrecked with gold bars and doomed prisoners. The ship went down and is still there. Probably under somebodys house because much of this area was filled in and built upon. This really bothered Simon to no end because he devoted his life. He kept begging for extensions, claiming "I'll find it, just a little more time!" "I beg you!" "More time, it's out there, let me look. Keep those tug boats at bay, Don't let them fill in that water." "It's down there. I tell you!!!!" They thought he was nuts and he struggled to keep operating but, by the time WW2 was over Simon who was waiting for a chance to look again had passed away.

Anyways, Simon said "I won't stop until I am stoped!" "I'll find it!"
93 years old, blind in one eye and creaky from all the years underwater he kept on looking until death itself stoped him. He got close, found the anchor itself. Made a fortune, became wealthy, went broke and in debt searching for the Hussar. Got wealthy again paid off debt, searched more and went broke again. Brought up locomotives and did salvage work only to spent it all and was broke again. I believe that, if it was not for the interruption of two world wars and the filling in of part of that river he would have succeeded! Keep looking!
That ship laden down with gold bullion or the simple bicycle or whatever treasure you decide to hunt. It IS out there! In the unlikely places, by the strangest circumstances, it is out there.
Have fun, have the time of your life. Be careful,be wise, and good luck to each of you.

I read in one of my old magazines that the prototype Bowden Spacelander was stolen while being transported to a show. I do not know if it was ever recovered. So there is a bit of intrigue with this particular bike. I'll bet you didn't know that.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:Bowden Spacelander posted by Hound on 10/10/2002 at 11:20:27 PM
Chris,
Thanks for the story. I admire the old man that did not give up the search.






AGE / VALUE:   value of my free bikes posted by: metlhed on 10/5/2002 at 7:04:10 PM
hehehe i love the trash man lol i have some bikes i got and i was wondering the value.
1-green schwinn varsity 1972 great pain and decals little rust 10spd.
2-brown scwhinn 1972 little bit smaller frame than the varsity 10 spd great condition
3-white viscount 10 spd. little rust
4-brown 1972 columbia 10 spd. great condition
5-dark blue sears womens 3 speed great condition

all bikes are mens except sears. thanks for any info.







MIDDLEWEIGHT:   schwinn collegiate questions posted by: stephen fredette on 10/5/2002 at 6:48:18 PM
1.)i have a brooks B-15 that i'd like to put on a
1963 5 speed collegiate. the seatpost is too
small for the saddle adapter. any ideas?
2.) what would be the proper thread wingnuts
to use on the axles?







AGE / VALUE:   COLUMBIA FIRE ARROW DELUXE posted by: GRACE on 10/5/2002 at 4:36:29 PM
NEED A GENERAL VALUE OF A GIRLS 26 IN COLUMBIA FIRE ARROW DELUXE IN GOOD CONDITION. ALL ORIGINAL WITH FRONT AND REAR RACKS, TANK, ETC. RED IN COLOR.







FOR SALE:   schwinn hollywood posted by: mike on 10/2/2002 at 7:57:40 AM
anyone interested in a schwinn hollywood deluxe ladies bike? not sure of year, i'll check tomorrow. looks to be all original, but i'm not an expert in this type of bike. real nice condition, red paint is all there, nice headbadge, chainguard appears to have only little wear, words stand out nicely and everything. anyways, let me know if anyone is interested in this. email me or post here.

-- mike.
-- kilostoys@msn.com







BALLOON:    98 year old Crescent,not safe from being parted out. posted by: humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 10/1/2002 at 8:58:02 PM
E- bay item# 719623550 Old Crescent bicycle frame
the other parts to this very bike are under sellers other auctions, all at the same time. We get to see it all.
This bike is from 1904 (the seller says). Still, that does not deterr them from parting it out.
People do this all the time, it's common practice. The seller has every right to do this, I know.
Still, in my book, personally, because the thing is from 1904 that is beyond the point where I'd part it out.
Yes, the parts will go on other bikes to bring them back from the dead.
I dunno, it still kind of bites to see this. That's 98 years old and very historic as it sits.
Well, it could be at the bottom of some landfil that was paved over in the 1960's so we're lucky to have it at all. Not my auction, no relation to seller.
That chaincase should be copied and replicated and offered for sale as a re-pop part. I don't know.
You would have to locate an original Crescent catalog to see what exact parts are needed to put it back to 'new' condition. I see the old advertisments of factories with little flags flying and it makes me sorry that it is all gone. Barely a trace is left.
A whole site on the web dedicated to Crerscent Wheel Works with all sorts of catalogs would be really kick butt.


   RE:BALLOON:    98 year old Crescent,not safe from being parted out. posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 10/1/2002 at 9:19:31 PM
The wheels are not offered, I don't see them and they probably did not find the bike with them on it. These probably were wooden wheels too.
Somebody will buy the frame, I hope so! and these parts are being bought by folks who likely are doing restorations. It should be alright. If it was found more intact and in better shape than the seller would not be offering it up in pieces anyways. It would be sold whole and complete.

   RE:BALLOON:    98 year old Crescent,not safe from being parted out. posted by sam on 10/1/2002 at 11:05:10 PM
interesting part is the frame is a man's and the other parts are for a girls bike.By 1903 bikes were advertized as we know them with a top bar for a mans and the nix frame for girls.The wood fender has skirt holes and so does the guard( guards would have only been on a girls bike also)--sam

   RE:RE:BALLOON: 98 year old Crescent,not safe from being parted out. posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 10/2/2002 at 8:28:36 PM
Good eye, Sam! They have been finding really old bikes then.

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON: 98 year old Crescent,not safe from being parted out. posted by sam on 10/3/2002 at 1:16:38 AM
Chris,I know you rise early to hunt at first light,with an eye for the English birds.But if by change you do spy a rare American Mead in a trap please don't pass it by.Tuck it under your arm and hurry home.Mend it with those 28X1/2s (hoops and tyrs)you save for your British pray.When strong again they'll fly like nothing you've had---sam

   RE:RE:RE:RE:BALLOON: 98 year old Crescent,not safe from being parted out. posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 10/3/2002 at 8:30:52 PM
I am very mesmerized by the old American made makes and their industrial history behind them. No worry, If I see it, it's tucked under my arm. Actually on the rear rack, on the way home.
Great to hear from you Sam, as always.






AGE / VALUE:   coast king posted by: phil on 10/1/2002 at 11:34:02 AM
recently got a coast king titled the statesman.also a 1970 AMF roadmaster that i was surprised to find has "tripple triangle technology" similiar to GT mnt bikes.any info anyone?value,#'s 4 sale?thanks







AGE / VALUE:   schwinn speedster posted by: wes on 9/30/2002 at 10:21:21 PM
found a schwinn speedster at the scrap yard today for a meer 3.00 three dollars is what it weighted out the serial number is GO23476 CAN YOU GIVE ME A DATE IT IS ALL COMPLETE JUST FLAT TIRES
ARE THEY COLLECTABLE THANKS WES







BALLOON:   New Schwinn parts posted by: Tom Findley on 9/30/2002 at 11:43:24 AM
PACIFIC CYCLE ANNOUNCES NEW LICENSEE FOR SCHWINN CLASSIC PARTS
Agreement will get classic parts back into the hands of dealers and hobbyists

VERNON HILLS, IL – September 16, 2002 – Pacific Cycle, LLC announced the signing of a licensing agreement with Maple Island Sales, LLC of Lamar, MO. Under the new agreement, Pacific Cycle has licensed the rights to manufacture and distribute Classic Schwinn bicycle parts for such icon bikes as the Sting-Ray, Phantom and other Classic Schwinn models. Parts for which rights have been assigned include fenders, handlebars, chainguards, forks, pedals, hubs, tires, reflectors, saddles, tanks and other Classic parts and components. The parts will be available early in 2003 and offered for sale through independent bicycle dealers.

“We are very pleased to have the opportunity to reproduce Classic Schwinn parts,” said Chad Kellenberger, CEO of Maple Island Sales, LLC. “Schwinn’s rich 107-year history of quality bike parts nicely compliments our existing business of supplying parts to the classic bike collectors. I’m very excited about getting these parts back into production.”

The agreement is in response to Pacific Cycle’s ongoing commitment to the independent bicycle dealers and their need for Schwinn Classic parts. Active Schwinn Dealers are welcome to contact: sales@mapleislandsales.com for product and ordering information.


   RE:BALLOON:   New Schwinn parts posted by edgarecks on 10/8/2002 at 5:31:20 PM
If you can't wait, I have a repop Schwinn springer fork for sale, see "General/For Sale" section.






BALLOON:   Murray Strato posted by: Jim on 9/30/2002 at 12:27:02 AM
I have a old Murray bike from the 50's its a Strato line, with the large Goodyear whitewall tires, and two springs in front..
It also has the Delta light on the front fender it is in very good shape .I'm interested in finding out what the current value is for this collectable.
I have pics of the bike.


thanking you in advance
Jim Monaco
monaco74@attbi.com







AGE / VALUE:   monark holiday girls posted by: troy on 9/28/2002 at 4:25:59 AM
I got a girls Monark Holiday bike with a springer front end and a rack on the back. It seem to have a missing light on the front fender, and I dont know if it had a gas tank. The rack has "turn like arrows" on it, and a hole on the top, where it looks like something was mounted under it. It is all orriginal, and in fair/good shape. IF you could help me with any info it would be great. I have posted messages months ago, but know one has had any answer. Is this a rare bike? Please help. I do have tag numbers.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   monark holiday girls posted by Bill on 10/19/2002 at 12:58:59 AM
Your Holiday should have a tank on it. The tank had wood graining, same as the chain guard, and the Monark crown jewels as well as a horn. This bike was made in 1953 and I believe 1954. Yes, it is a rare bike. It is worth whatever someone is willing to pay.






MISC:   Old Arnold, Schwinn & Co. archive mat'l posted by: michael k. on 9/25/2002 at 8:26:12 PM
Nice Arnold, Schwinn & Co. brochures, specs, photos, etc...from early days, forward...Schwinn World, Excelsior...

http://www.cyclesmithy.com/schwinnarchives.html

see 'next page' prompts at bottom of each page


   RE:MISC:   Old Arnold, Schwinn & Co. archive mat'l posted by Joel on 9/26/2002 at 3:23:46 PM
WOW, that's very cool. Oldest Schwinn literature I've seen.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Old Arnold, Schwinn & Co. archive mat'l posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 9/27/2002 at 1:01:04 AM
I have the Excelsior truss fork locking model with key in maroon with the diamond paint decal thingie on each side.
A ladies frame to it, skip tooth sprocket, new skip tooth chain, rusty but original wheels, front and rear fenders with original braces and (flat fender braces attached still) Messenger deluxe ladies saddle with springs, the seat post. The headbadge is removed, but I have it. Not sure if it is oval or what. It needs a good re-doing type restoration.

The seats are really something in this catalog. The whole catalog is a rare treat and we're lucky the good folks at Cyclesmithy posted this up for us to enjoy. Thanks!

Now I can identify the strange unadentified handlebar stem I liberated from a rusty metal drawer at an old shop. Thanks to this booklet and your telling us all about it to see, I can finally know that the mystery part is no longer a mystery but that it goes to an very old Schwinn Excelsior bike. I love catalog pictures like this because it educates me. Now I recognize cranks and other parts that before I was unsure on. This info comes in handy out "in the field"

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Old Arnold, Schwinn & Co. archive mat'l posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 9/28/2002 at 6:05:50 PM
Old catalogs are awesome! Really! I had no idea what in the heck it went to. I bought it because it was old! Now I know what it goes to. I tell you, that's wonderful!
It's tagged with a note explaining what it is. No longer in the unknown section of the collection!