AGE / VALUE:Harley Bicycle posted by: Roger Dean Helms Jr. on 11/18/2005 at 1:19:38 AM
I have an old bicycle with the head badge of "Pinnell Incorporated, Richmond, Virginia" with "Harley" in the center of the badge. I would like information of the age and value of this bike. I can send a picture if you know anything about this company. Please respond to my wife's e-mail address above. You can call me at my home phone number of 803-222-6161.
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AGE / VALUE:A MYSTERIOUSLY UNKNOWN DECAL posted by: rod on 11/17/2005 at 6:51:49 PM
I decided to remove a layer of paint from the seat post portion of my '70 Typhoon, and not only did I uncover the 'quality' decal, but a piece of a worn decal at the bottom above the crankshaft that appeared to be larger w/ ribbon-circled edge like pre-'67 quality decals. My 1st guess was that it could have been a dealer decal. Any help will be appreciated.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:A MYSTERIOUSLY UNKNOWN DECAL posted by Joe on 11/18/2005 at 11:08:38 PM
sounds like a dealer decal
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MIDDLEWEIGHT:skip tooth rear steer tandem posted by: Chris Alger on 11/14/2005 at 7:28:03 PM
I have a Chicago Cycle Supply - Liberty tandem that I'm trying to date and explore rarity. I can post pictures if there is interest. It has a rear steer linkage so that either rider can steer. The front position is mixte/female.
The serial number from beneath the rear BB is hand-punch stamped 92222. The hubs are new dimension; rear is single speed type D, with the external grease port.

Anyone have one of these or know if originated as a Schwinn? None of the museums with websites show one.

thanks,
Chris
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   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:skip tooth rear steer tandem posted by Ken on 11/15/2005 at 3:21:50 PM
You should certainly post your bike on the Picture Database; let us know when it's up. Chicago Cycle Supply and the Liberty badge are both closely associated with Schwinn (I had a ca. 1940 DX with that badge, still have a photo if you want to compare), but I have also seen a Murray-built bike with that name. The Murray Liberty was circa 1960, though, so I'd say Schwinn is a high probability. Look closely at the seat post clamp bolts and stem bolts for the AS trademark. You might also find bearings marked Schwinn inside the bottom brackets. New Departure hubs would be correct. If you like you can email me to trade photos.
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   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT: skip tooth rear steer tandem posted by Chris Alger on 11/16/2005 at 4:24:03 PM
I've posted a series of pictures for the tandem here
http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Liberty-Tandem
and will try to load a few on the Picture Database here.

Another reader of this list has suggested the bike is a Colson, which matches two that I've now seen on other sites. One was on EBAY yesterday!

Chris


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   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT: skip tooth rear steer tandem posted by Ken on 11/17/2005 at 6:29:27 PM
Great pics, great bike. The Arnold-Schwinn logo is clearly visible, upside down, on the head of the handlebar clamp bolt in the photo marked rear stem. Also, that same badge was used on Schwinn-built bikes from (at least- I don't have begin or end dates, just examples) 1939 to 1948. I agree the original color was the dark red/maroon. You may find some inside the headset or BB.

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   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT: skip tooth rear steer tandem posted by sam on 11/20/2005 at 6:02:23 PM
Almost all manufacturers have made these steer from the rear tandems at one time.Someone has replaced the stems and bars with the AS schwinn bars I think.Colson or cleveland wielding would be a good guess---sam
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   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT: skip tooth rear steer tandem posted by sam on 11/21/2005 at 2:36:38 AM
I checked with Mark on those drop outs---Schwinn did use those type on several bikes(thinks Mark for the insite)---but All seem to agree this is not a schwinn.Colson carries the vote.
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   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT: skip tooth rear steer tandem posted by Chris on 12/22/2005 at 12:58:05 AM
Thanks everyone for your observations on the manufacturer of this tandem. At this point, I don't have the time to invest in restoration of the bike. Anyone know of someone or someplace that would appreciate the bike enough for me to donate it? I'm not interested in profit, only preserving the bike. thanks, Chris Alger calger@irisenv.com
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BALLOON:looking for early hose pipe tires posted by: Dana Brown on 11/14/2005 at 12:01:55 AM
i just purchased a 1930's columbia model c9 with metal over wood rims i am looking for the early tires (hose pipe) tires that are the inner tube and tire all in one and i believe that they get glued to the rim also. does anyone still make these for restoration projects? the ones i have are hard as a rock of course. any info will be greatly appreciated
thanks, Dana Brown
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   RE:BALLOON:looking for early hose pipe tires posted by Ken on 11/14/2005 at 3:24:21 PM
Coker Tire- $131.00 per each. This is why my 1920 Mead is hanging on a hook. http://www.coker.com/store/customer/search.php?tire_size=28X1.5&in_category=108&x=11&y=4

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   RE:RE:BALLOON:looking for early hose pipe tires posted by Joel on 11/14/2005 at 5:56:03 PM
Harper Machine Shop in Dunbar WV reproduces them. Bought a set recently for $180/pr shipped. Sorry I don't have the number handy.
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    looking for early bicycle tires posted by dana brown on 11/15/2005 at 12:31:33 AM
first let me thank you for your quick response.second i think i misled you. the tires are of balloon tire size, white walled with the linked chain tread,the tire and inner tube are one.these tires are 28". Also this is a columbia c9 with a two speed new departure hub with the small shifter on top bar. i was told it is a 1930.... can anyone pin point this bikes time in history?i know it's tuff with no pictures thanks again..Dana
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   RE: looking for early bicycle tires posted by Ken on 11/15/2005 at 3:38:51 PM
That's the size I had in mind: 28x1.5, (not to be confused with the European "28x1 5/8x1 1/4" which is a 700c iso622mm or the "28x 1 1/2" roadster tire). Also called singletube, these went out of use in the 1930s as the 26 inch balloon tire took over.
Have you found any history on that two-speed hub? Please post a link if so.
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   RE:BALLOON: looking for early hose pipe tires posted by sam on 11/15/2005 at 5:13:08 PM
Harper's phone is 304-768-1147
must call they have no web site---would you expect a company that still makes these tires to have a web site!!---sam PS
New Departure made the DD two speed conversion unit,triplspeed conversion unit,and twin streak hubs--Mattatuck took over bulding N/D but only lasted a couple of years.
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