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Archived: Reproductions and Motorized Bicycles







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   cox bronco posted by: Clark Wilcox on 12/26/2000 at 3:50:48 PM
Does anyone have any info/brochures/instructions for a mid 60's Cox Bronco bike motor. I had one long ago and just got another that is missing several parts. Any help would be appreciated and I would gladly pay for copies of manuals etc. Thanks, Clark







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   cox bronco posted by: Clark Wilcox on 12/26/2000 at 3:50:48 PM
Does anyone have any info/brochures/instructions for a mid 60's Cox Bronco bike motor. I had one long ago and just got another that is missing several parts. Any help would be appreciated and I would gladly pay for copies of manuals etc. Thanks, Clark







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   cox bronco posted by: Clark Wilcox on 12/26/2000 at 3:50:48 PM
Does anyone have any info/brochures/instructions for a mid 60's Cox Bronco bike motor. I had one long ago and just got another that is missing several parts. Any help would be appreciated and I would gladly pay for copies of manuals etc. Thanks, Clark







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   cox bronco posted by: Clark Wilcox on 12/26/2000 at 3:50:48 PM
Does anyone have any info/brochures/instructions for a mid 60's Cox Bronco bike motor. I had one long ago and just got another that is missing several parts. Any help would be appreciated and I would gladly pay for copies of manuals etc. Thanks, Clark







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Cyclone posted by: Joe Mathews on 12/19/2000 at 1:51:27 PM
I have had such a horrible time with Cyclone trying to get a MSO (Manufacture Statement of Orgin) in the state I live in it is required to register with DOT and for the past 3 1/2 months I have been given the run around. Can anyone advise me what I can do?


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Cyclone posted by Rif Addams on 12/20/2000 at 3:46:07 AM
YIKES!!!
The state I live has the same requirements as well. Acording to the R.C.W. it is a moped in the eyes of the law. Therefore it is to be licensed and registered. Although there is much confusion when it comes to the add on two stroke power kits. So far I haven't had to register and license my moto-bikes.
So far... I think the day is coming soon.
As a matter of fact, I have found the police around here stop me so they can look at it and ask questions about what it is and how it's put together. Basically, they just want to check it out.
This problem you are having is something I had wondered about, if you could please keep us posted on this it would be appreciated.

A while back we had a discusion sort of related to this. The lack of customer support and service from the manufacturers of the higher end Whizzer type moto-bikes. It's really a shame.
Rif

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Cyclone posted by JimW. on 12/20/2000 at 7:48:57 AM
Different states have different regulations. As far as I know, in most states, registration is not called for in the case of motorized bikes. State vehicle codes generally spell out the performance limits of motos and mopeds. To find out the regulations for your state, run a web search using the terms (name of your state) and moped. You'll find the applicable info. No matter how loose or tight individual
state's codes are about motorized bicycles, if you get clocked doing 50, you'd better be prepared to produce motorcycle registration and insurance papers. If it's that
fast, it's not considered to be a moped.

Keep in mind that this may be the first time that this particular company has been asked about an MSO form. I've
never heard of it, myself, and I've been around the block a few times. When I'm asked about paperwork I've never heard of, I tend to forget about it, too.

Maybe BikeRod&Kustom should run a list of the various state's vehicle codes as they apply to motorized bikes?

While on the subject, BR&K is pleased to announce the addition of a Moto Editor to our Editorial Board. Let's have a big hand for- Rif Addams. Give it up for the Moto-Meister, everybody! (applause).


   RE:RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Cyclone posted by Rif on 12/22/2000 at 2:52:21 AM
Running a list of state vehicle codes may not be a bad idea...
With the increased popularity of Moto-bikes recently, I think we may see more and more of the confusion. I carry the R.C.W.'s pertaining to Moto-bikes and bicycles with me when I ride. Just in case.






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Angel Wings Sale posted by: JimW. on 12/18/2000 at 12:53:19 PM
Since BR&K's most recent moto article, we've been on their mailing list. The current announcement has their loaded 24" Cyclone going for $1,400, for a limited time (this month).
The 24" model is normally a couple of hundred bucks more
than the 26" size, probably because the smaller frame is
kooler looking. You can check it out at: http://www.motorizedbikes.com/1.html
The price break only applies to blue ones, I think. They also have a picture of the new Wizard1 bike motor they sell.
It looks good, and goes for less than $500.







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Rear Pulleys "Sheave" posted by: Kimberly on 12/18/2000 at 12:13:45 PM
Eric-
Just to let you know Whizzer Motorbike Company is alive and well. I would be more than happy to direct you to a dealer in your area for the sheave.


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Rear Pulleys posted by Dave on 1/17/2001 at 6:39:55 PM
Hi Eric i live in Tuckahoe New Jersey is there any
wizzer dealers around here Dave.






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   building moroized bicycles posted by: Eric on 12/16/2000 at 4:34:38 PM
I started fabricating motorized bicycles with used 4 stroke motors off unwanted lawnmowers in the 50's when I was 10. The belt rims that fastened to the spokes were plentiful, we took them off old home air coolers. I have the desire to share this knowledge and the excitement of building your own motorbike with the neighborhood youngsters. All the materials are easy to come by but I have no idea where to find the belt pulleys which fasten to the spokes such as the ones that are seen on bikes such as the Whizzer. If there is anyone who can help with information, I would appreciate your time.

Eric


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   building moroized bicycles posted by Steve on 12/17/2000 at 11:15:18 AM
I'm not sure where to find the belt pulleys, but I'd love to learn more about how you put the motors on.

Do you only use side-shaft motors?
What do you use for a clutch?

This could be come a very interesting topic. Please post wat you have learned over the years.

THANK YOU!

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   building moroized bicycles posted by Rif on 12/17/2000 at 7:51:24 PM
YES! Definately olease share your knowledge and experience with the rest of us!
Rif

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   building moroized bicycles posted by JimW. on 12/18/2000 at 5:44:39 AM
Back in the day, my friends would take another wheel rim the
same size as the one on the bike. This would be spot-welded
to the original rim. It wasn't as efficient as a real V-belt
pulley, but it worked. My friends would use a spring-loaded
idler pulley as a clutch, with a 1/4" steel rod lever to disengage it. The rod would be threaded for a knob. It
looked pretty cool. Go-Kart parts sources have centrifugal clutches for about $20. They work fine.

The Russells of Reecycles use a jackshaft drive on their kustom motos. You can see several examples at:
http://bikerodnkustom2.homestead.com/gallery12.html
It uses a pulley with two sprockets mounted to it. The bike's drive chain from the cranks goes to one of the cogs,
and the other one has a chain going to the bike's usual rear wheel sprocket. The engine has a belt from a pulley on the clutch to the jackshaft pulley. It's a pretty simple system, and works well.

Homemade motos were always based upon horizontal-shaft engines. It was generally considered to be too much trouble
to convert a vertical-shaft motor, because of the mounting
differences. Go-Kart sources have a wide variety of engines of this type, but modern moto thinking prefers weed-whacker-type motors, because of the smaller displacement and more compact size. The larger engines produce more power and speed than is considered legal for an unlicensed motorized bicycle. I believe the upper legal limit is about 50cc for displacement and 25mph for speed. I'm sure this varies from
state to state.


   RE:RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   building moroized bicycles posted by Rif on 12/20/2000 at 3:58:46 AM
Here in Washington state, the moped (moto-bikes are classified as mopeds here, according to the Revised Code of Washington) can be no larger than 50cc displacement, be no more than two brake horsepower, and shall not exceed a speed of more than 30 M.P.H.
I don't know what about the four stroke whizzer type set ups though, they're not bicycles, they're not moped (moto-bikes), and they're not motor cycle. There is a two or three sentence paragraph in the R.C.W. It talks of motor driven cycles, and leaves it up to any department to interpet this as they see fit.
that may (or may not) have been intended to address scooters.
Anyway,
Rif






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Maybe I have too much time to think... posted by: Rif Addams on 12/15/2000 at 6:26:11 PM
Well, The other night while running my machine at work, A real crazy idea popped into my head. I still haven't decided I'm just toying with the idea.
I would like to build a moto-bike flat track behind the house. But the more I think about it, the more I think, "hey I've got an acre here, why not a rally type track?" As opposed to just a one way oval type track.
"yeah, then I can landscape different areas in different ways. For a variety of scenery to look at while my friends and I are screaming around the property!"
Maybe I should lay off all the coffee... :-}
Rif







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug posted by: JimW. on 12/15/2000 at 9:27:57 AM
Our friends at "Buzzing" the English motorbike site have a
current inquiry about information to do with the AquaBug motor, with a photo of one on a cute girl's bike.
It may be seen at: http://www.buzzing.org/index.htm
If anyone (Rif? Keith?) has any useful info on the subject to share, they'd appreciate it. There is no current phone
number for Aqua International in the NYC phone book.


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug posted by Rif on 12/15/2000 at 5:58:43 PM
That is a pretty cool site. Right on...
The Bike-Bug motor is now being distributed through Tanaka American (so I've been told, I have yet to contact them myself) located in Kent, WA.
The phone # and addy are:
(253) 395-3900.
2241 72nd Ave S. #3
Kent, WA. 98032
Hope this helps out...
Rif






AGE / VALUE:   whizzer motor bike posted by: Mr. Motormouth on 12/14/2000 at 5:11:40 PM
Never used 2.2 miles, black with white sidewall tires. perfect for Christmas. $1195.00 obo (909)393-2910







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   What to buy??? posted by: Ben on 12/5/2000 at 8:38:41 PM
I'm considering buying a motorized bicycle. I was looking at motorizedbikes.com and saw some pretty nice ones. There low end model has a small engine, about 50cc, that achieves 30mph and 200 mpg. That one runs about $850 plus shipping. Any suggestions as to what/where else to buy? I would like something near those specs, 30+ mph, 150-200 mpg. Please email me and let me know what you know. benn112@yahoo.com


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   What to buy??? posted by Rickey Riley on 1/12/2001 at 7:00:02 PM
have for sale 1946 H model whizzer on schwinn frame restored runs like new , meets your specs $2,000.00






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   whizzer posted by: jerry mahoney on 12/5/2000 at 6:26:32 PM
Looking for a used echo pipe for the early whizzer sportsman


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   whizzer posted by Knuclehead on 12/14/2000 at 5:38:31 PM
TRY MEMORY LANE CLASSICS.TALK TO HARV HE WILL HELP YOU WITH YOUR NEEDS. HE HAS A LARGE SELECTION OF WHIZZER PARTS.AT 419-832-3040 PERRYBERG OHIO






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by: JAMES on 11/21/2000 at 11:57:29 PM
I JUST PURCHASED A NEW WHIZZER MOTORBIKE AND HAVE FIGURED OUT SEVERAL WAYS OF INCREASING THE POWER OF THE ENGINE. THE STOCK TOP SPEED OF MY BIKE WAS 24 MPH OUT OF THE BOX. I FIRST REMOVED THE FIBERGLASS BAFFLE IN THE MUFFLER. SECOND, REMOVED THE CYLINDER SHAPED RESTRICTOR IN THE INTAKE MANIFOLD, WHICH NETTED THE MOST POWER OF ANYTHING. THIRD, I ADVANCED THE CAMSHAFT ONE NOTCH WHICH SEEMED TO BROADEN THE POWERBAND. FOURTH, REMOVED RESTRICTOR IN AIR CLEANER AND LEANED OUT THE CARB BY MOVING THE C-CLIP ON THE NEEDLE ONE UP. WITH ALL OF THE MODIFICATIONS THE THING WILL GO NEARLY 50 MPH!!!! WHICH IS PRETTY FAST ON A BICYCLE. ANOTHER THING I DISCOVERED IS THAT IF YOU OVERFILL THE CRANKCASE BY EVEN A MINUTE AMOUNT IT WILL BLOW THROUGH THE VENT TUBE AND RIGHT INTO YOUR AIR FILTER AND REALLY MAKE A MESS OF THINGS. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE IF YOU MODIFY THE ENGINE. (HIGHER RPM=HIGHER CRANKCASE PRESSURE) SO WHAT I DID TO REMEDY THIS WAS TO REMOVE THE HOSES AND LITTLE FILTER AND REPLACE IT WITH A HOSE LONG ENOUGH TO GO DOWN TO THE KICKSTAND AREA OF THE BIKE, SO ANYTHING THAT BLOWS OUT GOES ON THE GROUND AND NOT ON YOUR JEANS. ALL IN ALL I THINK THE NEW WHIZZERS ARE A PRETTY GOOD DEAL FOR THE MONEY AND I HOPE TO SEE MORE PEOPLE RIDING IN THE FUTURE...

PS: IF YOU HAVE ANY TECH QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL ME, GLAD TO BE OF ANY HELP

JAMES


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by JimW. on 12/1/2000 at 8:00:45 AM
Congratulations on your Whizzer hot-rodding results. Larry
Lauderback, who builds high-powered moto-bikes has a lot to
say about running bicycles at outside-the-usual-bike-envelope
speeds. Check out his bike, and see what he has to say about
50 mph speed, and its effect on frame geometry, spokes, tires,
braking, etc. It's very interesting:
http://bikerodnkustom.homestead.com/gallery30.html

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by Rif Addams on 12/1/2000 at 5:17:11 PM
That clears up a couple of questions I had! Thanks.
I was wondering about the durability iof standard bicycle tires at sustained high speeds. I had a blowout once at 35 M.P.H.
Rear tire shredded and popped (sounded like a .22 cal. shot) The back end began jumping all over the place like you wouldn't believe! All I could do was release the throttle, hold on and try not to go down.
Good learning experience.
And yeah, heavy spokes are the only way to go!
I am curious though as to why no rear brake, and How does he have his front brakes adjusted so as not to endo...
Perhaps B. R.&K. could do an in depth interview? Covering more of these technical/safety points for maniacs like us that need to push our cycles to that 40+ M.P.H. threshold.
Rif

   RE:RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by JimW. on 12/4/2000 at 11:14:58 AM
That's a great idea, Rif. An even better idea would be for him to be interviewed my a maniac exactly like you. I think that would be a very good interview combo. There's still room for it in the next issue, too. Say yes, and I'll set it up with Larry. Doing an interview is fun for both people involved, I've found.

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by GARY on 12/17/2000 at 8:45:42 AM
just purchased new cruzzer sportsman...have question on
assembly of front wheel. info from seller indicated
there would be a bracket that would attach from bolt
on the left inside of fork...to a "wing" on the brake
assembly. cannot find any bracket. is this "wing"
supposed to bolt right onto the fork? instructions
for assembly are very sketchy. thanks...if anyone
can help.

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   NEW WHIZZER HOP UP posted by Rif on 12/20/2000 at 4:08:22 AM
If I'm picturing this correctly the "wing" or "arm would come off the brake assembly itself.
This "arm" or "wing" would attach to the fork with a bracket similar to ones used for attatching the (rear) coaster brake arm to the frame.
If this is the piece you can get 'em off any old bike or aquire a new one from a local bike shop.
Dunno if that was a help or a hinderance,
Rif






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   TAS Spitz - Clutch Type posted by: Mike on 11/13/2000 at 9:09:38 AM
Looking for someone with knowledge about the TAS Stiz, SEars Free Spirit or Aqua Bike Bug that has a clutch. This is my second one of these engines. First has no clutch - It works fantaisc. If you have any infomation/ experience about the clutch syatem please contact me.

Thnaks

Mike