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Archived: Reproductions and Motorized Bicycles







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   monark 2cylinder 2 stroke posted by: Michael on 11/14/2002 at 3:32:46 AM
I have a Monark motor bike I believe to be a factory built job. Does anybody know anything about the bike. I need afew parts but have no idea where to look. HELP







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Yawwwwn! posted by: JimW. on 10/26/2002 at 5:30:33 AM
Man, it this list ever boring! I keep coming here and not seeing any new posts. I guess it's up to me to liven things up.

This time, I won't do it by launching an unprovoked attack on some poor innocent victim. Instead, I'll tell you about a project in the offing. After the holidays, Dave and I will be building two prototype frames for a new stretched cruiser frame I've designed. The frame is designed to be easily motorized. So one of the prototypes will be a full-zoot kustom, and the other one will be a motorized hot rod version. It will be fitted with (3) 32cc Mac 2-stroke engines. My thinking: since a tricked-out engine is the coolest thing you can put on a bike, three tricked-out
engines would be the ultimate in coolness. Any comments?


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Yawwwwn! posted by Rif Addams on 10/26/2002 at 4:46:45 PM
so how does one go about synchronizing the motors?
It's a cool project, but that's the one big glaring question in my mind.
:-}
Rif

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Yawwwwn! posted by JimW. on 10/26/2002 at 8:17:47 PM
I dunno 8-)But I'm sure I'll think of something.
They don't necessarily need to be synchronized exactly, especially if they all had those little centrifugal clutches that many of these engines come with, but I'm inclined to have them all linked together with timing belts anyway, without the clutches, except for the clutch in the Comet drive I'm planning to feed their input into. All the throttle linkages would be working in unison, after tuning with an optical tachometer. There are many examples of this sort of scheme being used on drag motorcycles, one of the most notable 3-engined bikes being called "The Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe." Great name, huh?


   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Yawwwwn! posted by JimW. on 10/26/2002 at 8:17:59 PM
I dunno 8-)But I'm sure I'll think of something.
They don't necessarily need to be synchronized exactly, especially if they all had those little centrifugal clutches that many of these engines come with, but I'm inclined to have them all linked together with timing belts anyway, without the clutches, except for the clutch in the Comet drive I'm planning to feed their input into. All the throttle linkages would be working in unison, after tuning with an optical tachometer. There are many examples of this sort of scheme being used on drag motorcycles, one of the most notable 3-engined bikes being called "The Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe." Great name, huh?


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Yawwwwn! posted by sam on 10/27/2002 at 10:37:00 PM
BORING!This group just does more planning!HA!HA!Rif's takin the wyman2 frame to Bob and I got a belt drive in the works but need to "plan"more as the motor mounting system I was using sucks.But my wife gave me a torch set for another B-day(I should stop having them)so now if I get time between other projects maybe I can figure a cool way to mount the whacker motor wizzer style in the frame---back to planning--sam

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Yawwwwn! posted by JimW. on 10/28/2002 at 6:14:52 AM
That's a great wife you've got there, Sam! All mine ever gives me is a hard time about the bike and engine parts all over the place.

For an on-line picture of the Atchison, Topeka, and Santa Fe, 3-engined beast, go to:
http://www.rceng.com/about.htm

$5 Frank has been sending me links to other engine monstrosities. Here's one that has a huge 5-litre V-twin made from a pair of cylinders from a V-12 WW2 bomber engine.
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/'ddped/rrv2.htm
And a V-12 bike which is probably faked, but fun.
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/'ddped/joebody.html


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Yawwwwn! posted by Rif on 11/9/2002 at 4:15:19 AM
Sorry kids,
I'm extremely going crazy at the moment!
Some of it fun, some of it not so much...
As you all know I'm finishing school to recieve my A. A. degree. That's quite a work load in itself.
I'm also currently sitting in with the local Rock Band 'King Dinosaur' there's a little more time.
Most importantly I'm working on the Wyman recreation stuff in various aspects. As well as the '51 Ford hot rod inspired Schwinn Pre-War Kustom project (it's coming along quite nicely!). Also tweaking on my MotoBike.
Finally the county 'Yard Nazis' (as I prefer to call them) are forcing me to get rid of, or put in storage, various old cars, bicycles, interesting architectural ornamentation, and the various bits and parts thereof.
Basicly the newer neighbors who have moved in don't like my yard art and 20 year collection of wierd, interesting, wonderful junk & stuff.
For any Social Distortion fans out there I quote:
"We have to go,
the neighbors have complained.
We have to go..."

That really irritates me because I had to move my parts and parts bikes out to the barn I used before as a shop. It was getting broken intothough, that's why I moved out of it.
This means a 45 minute drive if I need a part or to do something; all the while hoping that it all hasn't been stolen.
I'm not really complaining but hey, it's a bit of a damper on my day.
So anyway, to sum up, this is why I've been so boring lately...
Keep on Keepin' on fellas'
Rif :-)
:-)






WANTED:   Wahizzer Parts!!!!...1947/48 posted by: Mike on 10/11/2002 at 7:28:41 PM
Looking for flywheel and clutch assembly!!!!Anything out there????Thanks!!!







AGE / VALUE:   valentine tri cicle(motoriz posted by: seperated on 10/9/2002 at 11:45:34 PM
does any one know or heard of valentine bikes?







AGE / VALUE:    posted by: whipped on 10/9/2002 at 11:39:00 PM
werke parazion/durex parts came on ??? bikes.paint looks like it might have been a german ww2 motorized bicycle.any werke parazion info will help.thanks







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Schwinn Tri-Wheeler posted by: Ben Siebel on 10/7/2002 at 1:46:58 AM
I just bought a Schwinn Tri-Wheeler and now I'm trying to figure out what to do with it. I'm thinking of making it into a custom motorized bike. I may use it for delivering produce in the future.... does anybody have any ideas???

I may re-configure the frame, change the rims, handle bars, and add a springer fork and disc brakes..

I like the look of the older motorized bicycles..

If anybody has any ideas that would be great!!!

Thanks,

Ben


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Schwinn Tri-Wheeler posted by Chris on 12/3/2002 at 10:43:21 PM
The one I saw was powered by a common car battery. There were too many old Raleigh's and thankfully then I was not crazy enough to get that too! Sounds like fun, it's stable with the 3 wheels. However, Those 26 X 1 3/8 wheels are not the best choice to be loading down onto with a motor and heavy battery. Can you lace 28 X 1 1/2 English Raleigh Tourist D.L.1. rims onto this? Then again the front fork is an issue.






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer pacemaker information posted by: mark on 9/22/2002 at 5:38:18 PM
Hi,
I am looking for some info on my whizzer I have. It is a 1948 pacemaker
with an "H" motor, serial number is H136775 and frame number is 10057. I
think it is a very early pacemaker. What do you think about it??? How
can I find out more about my bike???

Thanks
Mark


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer pacemaker information posted by john martin on 10/6/2002 at 11:31:08 PM
What do you want to do with it? Is it for sale?
John

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer pacemaker information posted by Bill Russell on 10/10/2002 at 4:58:53 AM
Mark,
My understanding is that only the very earliest 1948 Pacemakers had H engines. The majority of Pacemakers of that year had J engines. Also, I believe the first 500 pacemakers had a gusset near the head tube. A good place for information is www.geocities.com/whizzer_17044/main.html.

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer pacemaker information posted by mike on 10/11/2002 at 7:25:33 PM
Hi Mark....I'm presently restoring a Whizzer....is yours for sale??Drop me a note in any regards!!!Chow

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer pacemaker information posted by Whizzerick on 11/28/2002 at 8:49:14 PM
Bill is right about the first 500 Pacemakers. They where built by Cleveland Welding and had a rounded gusset at the head tube. Your engine number is a LATE H model. Ate the motor mounts welded or 'clamp on'?. Is the seatpost bicycle style or are the seat mouts welded? ANY Pacemaker is a great find. Any Whizzer is a great find...
whizzerick






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   wanted posted by: jerry on 9/16/2002 at 11:27:27 PM
Looking for fishtail muffler for marmon motorbike , also . Have parts to trade or will buy outright.







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   JC Higgins Mortorized with Free Spirit Front Mounted Motor posted by: Mike on 9/15/2002 at 6:04:31 PM
I have a JC Higgins bike with a Sears Robucks Free Spirit front mounted motor. Everything is all original (did run) before storeing it. Motor Model # 298 488530-Sold by Sears Roebuck and Co. Chicago, ILL 60684 - Made in Japan. I am interested in sell it but do not know it's value. I can sent pictures if anybody is interested in it.I would appreciate any information on the value of it.
Thanks,
Mike


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   JC Higgins Mortorized with Free Spirit Front Mounted Motor posted by Rif on 9/15/2002 at 7:16:44 PM
Hi Mike,
Please see the postings a little lower down on the list.
It's hard to guage the value without seeing it in person, but I would recommend you get in touch with Mike Schneider. He is the expert I.M.H.O. on these motor kits.
Hope this helps,
Rif

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   JC Higgins Mortorized with Free Spirit Front Mounted Motor posted by Mike Schneider on 9/18/2002 at 6:06:53 PM
Mike:

Some photos would be a great place to start from.

I have bought and sold these engines for the last 4 years.

I paid $5.00 for my first one at a garage sale. I have bought an old new in the box for $200.00.

I have seen them sell form $35 to $230 on ebay, depending on the shape they were in and the particular interest at the time. I have had people ask for $450 for an old new in the box.

If you are selling it out of your area shipping is about $20 to $25.

I have not seen many buyers wanting to ship a bike.

I can keep my ears open for you.

So send some pictures - I'll tell you what I know.

Mike

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   JC Higgins Mortorized with Free Spirit Front Mounted Motor posted by Mike Schneider on 9/18/2002 at 6:07:41 PM
Mike:

Some photos would be a great place to start from.

I have bought and sold these engines for the last 4 years.

I paid $5.00 for my first one at a garage sale. I have bought an old new in the box for $200.00.

I have seen them sell form $35 to $230 on ebay, depending on the shape they were in and the particular interest at the time. I have had people ask for $450 for an old new in the box.

If you are selling it out of your area shipping is about $20 to $25.

I have not seen many buyers wanting to ship a bike.

I can keep my ears open for you.

So send some pictures - I'll tell you what I know.

Mike






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   LaRay motorbike posted by: randy on 9/15/2002 at 2:32:12 AM
i bought a 1930 LaRay at auction,complete and running.i cannot find anything out about it.can anyone give me the history ,value,or resources to learn about it? thanks







WANTED:   1920's motorbike posted by: phill nirie on 9/8/2002 at 9:11:40 PM
I am looking for a motor to a 1920's motor bike.any leads on either original or a reproduction versions of this motor would make my day.


   RE:WANTED:   1920's motorbike posted by Rif on 9/11/2002 at 3:50:32 AM
Hi Phill,
Perhaps if you could give us a little more information on your motor bike. What brand it is, a bit of a description of the bike itself, etc.
It sounds like a very cool project. :-}
Hope we can help,
Rif

   RE:WANTED:   1920's motorbike posted by phill-e on 9/17/2002 at 12:06:46 PM
a 1928 elgin motorbike is as close as i've narrowed it down.the 1935 elgin oriole looks alot the same but the white paint differs slightly between the late twentys to the mid thirtys.i'm guessing that it is a 1928 only because the b.b. is stamped with a 28. N885 28 is the stamp.i've found pictures of a late 20's elgin motorbike with the motor mounting in front of handle bars(nostalgia,nostalgic(?).com).i also recieved another bike from the same people that has 40cc on the handlebars.it was red with black&white pinstripes,durex coaster brake with werke prazion on the durex hub. it had a special brake feature written on the coaster.it has allstate tires with a statefarm sticker on the back.can you possibly offer some more information than i have.it just crossed my mind.the reason the motor size is stamped on the handle bars is at one time it became a law to have it posted on the cycles if operated on highways/roadways.the elgin does not have this on it.the new departure model d hub looks like one side may have had a BELT ON IT .THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE.






AGE / VALUE:   bike motors posted by: Dave on 9/6/2002 at 4:46:48 AM
I am wanting to get a motor for my bike but am confused about friction drive vs. belt or chain drive kits. Can someone make a recommendation? I have looked at angel wings, island hopper and golden eagle.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   bike motors posted by Rif Addams on 9/6/2002 at 4:51:37 PM
Hi Dave,
there are many different factors to consider when motorizing your bike. The chain drive vs. friction drive vs belt drive is a debate or question that's been around a lot lately.
I personaly have had three motor kits, all were / are of the friction drive variety. the one real down fall of the friction drive is the fact that it will not work in wet conditions. The chain drive I have not had experience wih so I really cannot speak too much about these, and the same with a belt driven set up.
What is the intended usage of your moto-bike? In other words, is this just going to be a fair weather occasional pleasure cruiser? Is this going to be used for vacationing so it's like a mode of light use transportation around the camp site or town, is this an alternative form of commuter transportation, or is this a long distance heavy use touring bike?
Currently I am using the Island Hopper set-up and have been fairly content with it. It doesn't quite go fast enough to suit my tastes but I'm working on that... :-}
I use my bike for commuting and long distance heavy use touring. Granted I haven't ventured out of this city but it's a very large city and I go everywhere, and each time I venture a little further.
I don't know if I have been of any assistance but if you have any more questions or maybe more specific questions...
Rif

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   bike motors posted by Dave on 9/7/2002 at 2:46:45 AM
Thanks for the info, Rif. I am a middle-aged man and not at all mechanically inclined. I want to use the bike mostly for fun and recreation. I live in a mountainous area but there are also a lot of flat areas to ride here on top of the mountain. The bike I want to use the motor on is a mongoose mtn. bike. If whatever I get works well enough and seems reliable, I would like to go maybe 5-10 miles. How loud are these bike motors? About like a weedwhacker?

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   bike motors posted by Rif on 9/7/2002 at 5:47:02 AM
No problemo! Glad to be of assitance.
As far as the noise level, well it's kinda loud. I mean it IS after all a weedwhacker motor. the Island hopper kit utilizes a 49cc Tecumseh two stroke engine.
I let a friend of mine take the bike for a jaunt, and when he came down the street at full bore it sounded like a mutant hornet or something! It was actually cool to see it from the perspective of the bystander for once...
This motor (stock out of the box tops) out around 25 M.P.H. I'm shooting for 35 top speed, and cruising around at 30 average.
Oh yeah, one problem I did have with this kit is the twist grip throttle- It sucks. It's absolutely the bottom line cheapest thing that can possibly be had. It never worked properly and eventualy it severed the cable. I don't really care for the twist grip throttle assy. on motor bicycles anyway so I put my trusty old 'trigger' type throttle assy. on the new motor kit. No more problems and it's much more comfortable...
But overall I really dig this kit!
Rif

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   bike motors posted by JimW. on 9/9/2002 at 5:37:17 AM
You would probably be wise to follow Rif's example, and go with
the friction drive type. If you blow your engine, you just
unbolt the corpse, and you have a normal bike again.

My personal preference is for chain drive, just because it's
more manly, however, that's my macho side coming through.
You can get friction drive 4-cycle engine setups, which aren't
as noisy and smelly as the 2-strokes, but manly guys are generally
noisy and smelly, so 2-strokes are a good match in that respect.
I've designed a stainless-steel exhaust system for Mr. Moto,
my kustom moto project. It will have a 2"X 12" tubular fiberglass-packed
"muffler" which should deliver a richer sound than the typical
2-stroke engine, without losing too many of those kool and nasty
decibals.






WANTED:   information on a freespirit motor posted by: lee on 9/5/2002 at 4:43:17 PM
My dad picked up a motor that mounts on a bike ita called a freespirit model 298.48511 made in japan. He needs parts drivewheel, nut and washer ( left handed threads) and the return spring. And if anybody knows the value would be nice to. thanks Lee


   RE:WANTED:   information on a freespirit motor posted by Rif on 9/6/2002 at 4:54:36 PM
See post below and five postings down...
Rif :-}






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   need parts for motor posted by: Larry Juker on 8/29/2002 at 4:51:21 PM
I have a bicycle motor white front mount Tas on gas tank(round,left side) made Tanaka Togyo Co. Ltd. Japan that is all I know. Need parts list specificaly for now new drive wheel over the front of the front tire. It is direct drive gear shaft even to start single bolt on about 1 3/4 in. to 2 in. dia. drive wheel aluminum tooth to volcanized rubber can anyone help please. Thank you Larry


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   need parts for motor posted by sam on 8/30/2002 at 1:54:36 AM
go down 4 post under "need roller for bike bug" Rif answered this same question.

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   need parts for motor posted by Mike Schneider on 9/1/2002 at 3:10:34 PM
Got your message. Congradulations these little engines are a HOOT.

If you have compression and spark the rest of getting the engine to run is pretty simple.

I will help anyway I can with you getting your engine running. A picture or two of it would be helpul to me in helping you.

You said you needed a drive hub. Do you have the aluminmin drive hub and are missing the rubber outside or do you need the entire hub?

Another question - some of the engines have a primer bulb on top of the gas tank - Do you have one -? I have developed a part to rebuilt these if you need one. The manufactuer does not have any of these left.

I can help with both but if you have the aluminmin hub it is alot less expensive.

I have a package of literature on these engines that will save you a lot of time and money on repairing the engine. It contains the owner's manual, shop repair manual, parts lists, technical diagrams, articles written about the engines, soucres of parts, manufacturers address, hints on repairs, better than new parts and repair hints, etc.... It has been collected from 3 years of correspondebnce and research on these engines. I have rebuilt eight and help about twenty people like you get theirs up and running.

I copy and mail the literature for $25.00. I sure would recommend you not take the engine aprat until you have this information. A lot of little parts taht break or can be lost without benefit of the literature.

The manufactuer has some parts but they are pricey. The drove hub for instance - new about $40.00. I can show you a way to make one for $1.00 that will last longer, ride your bike faster and cause less wear on your engine.

If you want the pacakge sent me a check to:

Mike Schneider
1307 Country Place Circle
Houston, Texas 77079

281 531 6552 Home
713 463 2317 Office
713 859 5999 Cell

Welcome to the TAS Spitzers. Hope we get the Wind in Your Face soon.

BITW (Brothers in The Wind)

MIke

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   need parts for motor posted by Rif on 9/1/2002 at 7:27:16 PM
Mike you truly are one in a million! Keep up the great work on keeping these little motors alive!
Take care,
Rif






WANTED:   need info on a safety cycle ...................... posted by: jimmy on 8/26/2002 at 2:57:06 AM
it has a briggs motor on it i bought a whizzer from a guy for a 100.00 and he calls back and says he also has a
saftey cycle. he would like to sell i'm looking for some info on this


   RE:WANTED:   need info on a safety cycle ...................... posted by Louie on 9/5/2002 at 12:42:40 PM
I have a Safti-cycle /spare motor and a lot of info. I called the local newspaper's archives in Lacross, WI where they were made and they sent me alot of info including pictures inside the factory, flyers, and newspaper articles. Email me for more info.