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Archived: Reproductions and Motorized Bicycles







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug manual posted by: Gordon on 4/30/2002 at 5:22:35 PM
Hi. Last year Dave Novak kindly sent me a photocopy of a Bike Bug manual, along with same of a Popular Science article about it. I told him I would scan these and post them, and after moving twice, I've done it.

Anyway, is there somewhere on this site I could upload these to? I know people are always looking for them.

Also, Belated thanks to Dave and Rif Adams for their answers and help on this.

Gordon


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug manual posted by BillG on 4/30/2002 at 8:19:15 PM
You can upload them to the picture database.
Click on "Home" at the top left corner of this page, and then click on "Add a picture"

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug manual posted by Mike Schneider on 5/1/2002 at 9:54:59 PM
It would really be handy to tell us how to find the article and picture about the "Bike Bug" after Gordon has downloaded it to the Home Page.

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug manual posted by Gordon on 5/2/2002 at 1:18:53 PM
Well, I may have used too much resolution. The fike size limit on uploads is 100K, and these files all run 2-4 times that. I will try lowering the resolution a bit and see how it goes. Sorry for the delay.

   RE:RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug manual posted by Gordon Bullis on 5/13/2002 at 1:18:37 PM
Well, after just being OVERWHELMED with requests for this, I havn't done more with it. If there's a pent-up demand, let me know, otherwise I'm going to free up disk space.


Gordon

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Bike Bug manual posted by Liz John on 6/27/2002 at 12:06:53 AM
Hi, My husband, Steve, doesn't use the computer but would be interested in talking to you about the Bike Bug he recently purchased. Would you mind sending your phone number via email. Thanks very much. Liz






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   merkel motorwheel posted by: Chris on 4/28/2002 at 2:15:53 PM
Hi
Looking for a rim to go on Merkel motorwheel.
BE, 36 spoke 24"
Tyres as well,
All leads appreciated, also correct frame and forks. Contact cknoop36@hotmail.com


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   merkel motorwheel posted by JimW. on 4/29/2002 at 2:26:49 PM
That is a currently-available size and spoke count, and rubber size. J&B Importers and other (USA) dealers carry them. http://jbimporters.com






AGE / VALUE:   Orline Products motors posted by: sam on 4/23/2002 at 8:13:40 PM
Does anyone know if the Orline Products at 3340 Emery St. , Los Angeles Ca. is still in bussness?I think I remember the name Ideal motor also.It's a small front wheel motor.Needs the carb.kit.---sam


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Orline Products motors posted by JimW. on 4/24/2002 at 7:00:00 AM
Try looking for Ohlsson and Rice. That was the full name of the company. They are most noted for model airplane engines.
Chances are they didn't make the carburetor itself. It might be by Tillotson or one of the other small carburetor manufacturers. Check the carb closely to see if you can find a maker's name on it. If so, the maker is who you would get the carb kit from. If no name on the carb, you might be able to identify it by its style. All makers have their own little design quirks. You might show it to a small-engine repair specialist. Chances are they would be able to identify it. As there's bound to be a model # on it, that would help a lot. Good Luck.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Orline Products motors posted by Chris on 4/25/2002 at 11:30:05 PM
You know something Jim? I am darned glad you hang here in this group! I read your posts and I sit here and think. "This fellow knows his stuff!" You are a gem!

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Orline Products motors posted by JimW. on 4/26/2002 at 8:23:35 AM
Gawrsh! Thanks a lot. It's nice to be appreciated; but please bear in mind that I'm not always Mr. Brilliant. Sometimes I stick my oar in knowing nothing at all about the topic under discussion. That's one way I learn things. In this case, I happen to actually have some knowledge of the subject, but that's more the exception than the rule. All that aside, you are way discerning to even be commenting on this, and I salute you for it.






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   BIKE BUG/ AQUA BUG INFO posted by: lawrence on 4/23/2002 at 6:52:00 PM
Does anybody have a manual for these things? How do I find out what year and model my bike bug is? Can I still get a roller for it? What about a kill button and spring? Gas cap? Fuel to oil ratio? I've always used 24 to 1. too thick? please help
lawrence


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   BIKE BUG/ AQUA BUG INFO posted by JimW. on 4/24/2002 at 7:05:28 AM
Mike Schneider is our Tanaka maven here. He has made reprints of all that sort of thing available. He's around here a lot. Check lower down on this list, and you'll find at least one of his posts on the subject.

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   BIKE BUG/ AQUA BUG INFO posted by Mike Schneider on 4/25/2002 at 11:22:51 PM
Lawrence:

I have been collecting, copying and mailing the information below:

I do ask fo $20.00 to cover, postage, copying & handling.
You will get your money's worth or send it back.

Drive roller - Better than new for less tahn a buck.
Gas tank cap less than $5.00. Tanaka asks $14.95 plus shipping.

Lots of parts and ideas from owners just like yui who enjoy their Bike Bugs.

Information on the TAS Spitz, Sear's Free Spirit Aqua Bug Bike Bug Bicycle Engine.
Japanese manufactured to the mid-80s. Marketed under three different names: TAS Spitz, AquaBug Bike Bug, Sears Free Spirit. Two-cycle 28cc front fork mounted bicycle engine - 20 mph, 200 mpg.
Sears has one on display in the Sears Tower in Chicago - front door and center entrance.
I have rebuilt six of these engines. They are wonderfully delightful little engines to bike. I remember seeing them advertised in Popular Science Magazine at 12 years old - 40 years ago.
The manufacturer does have some parts available - however, not all. I have substituted several parts form hardware stores, lawn mower shops and motorcycle shops. I have also generated some better than original parts. In my rebuilding I have networked with several owners and have collected a very complete library of information on these engines plus first hand knowledge on repair.
· Original Owners Manuals
· Shop Repair Manuals
· Part Lists
· Technical Diagrams
· Sources of Parts and Replacement and Original
· List of Owners
I would sincerely appreciate your listing this information so it can be of benefit to other "Spitzers, Bike Buggers and Free Spiriters".

Mike Schneider
1307 Country Place Circle
Houston, Texas 77079

msamigo@aol.com
mschneider@ppitech.net






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Lone Star motorcycle Ralley posted by: Mike Schneider on 4/22/2002 at 2:13:54 PM
Just got back from the Lone Star Motorcycle Ralley south of Houston. 60,000 Motorcycles and one TAS Spitz.

I carted my Spitz on the bike rack to the show. Bikers would drive up from behind me and start asking questions about the Spitz - driving down the freeway.

Took the bike off the rack, rode to main entrance was asked to putt around the fair grounds - told people would love to see this thing.

Got a 22" Brim Gatamelan Palm Cowboy Hat for having the most unquie running bike. People stopped me - offered $300.00 on the spot. Got to hold a lot of cute chicks who posed with it.

TAS Spitzzing around

Brothers in the Wind

Mike


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Lone Star motorcycle Ralley posted by Rif Addams on 4/27/2002 at 6:03:56 PM
Hi Mike,
Sounds like a great time! I pulled a similar stunt about a year ago, and the people just love these things, don't they?! Keep up the great work on keeping the Tas alive!
Have you had a chance to get the group photos yet?
Keep on Keepin' on!!!
Rif






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Schwinn Whizzer posted by: Linda S. on 4/21/2002 at 3:06:00 PM
I pulled a Schwinn WHizzer out of a junk pile yesterday. I am not superfamiliar with this bike. It's in very good shape considering it's been sitting forever. The only thing that seems to be missing is a belt and the cover olong with the either gear shifter? and the throttle? I'm not to sure Please could someone help me as far as to what to do with this bikie? Should I restore it? By the way the engine does turn over. Thanks in advance for any help. Linda


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Schwinn Whizzer posted by JimW. on 4/22/2002 at 5:25:43 AM
How come I only find old clapped out MTBs in the trash? What a stroke of luck! What to do with it is up to you. If you'd like to own a Whizzer, restore it. It'll take some work and money, probably, but will be worth it. If you have no desire to own one, sell it to someone else who does. It's worth some money in its current condition. Restoring it for sale isn't really going to gain you that much more money, if you have to spend it on restoration, unless you do it all yourself. If you're capable of that, you should do it and keep it.

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Schwinn Whizzer posted by Rif on 4/27/2002 at 6:11:37 PM
Yeah, no doubt! I only come across junky old ten speeds and three speed road bikes! Only twice have I had that kind of good luck, once I found an old huffy bannana seat "Star Force" bike (as a Star wars collector I did my happy dance on top of this particular junk pile that was about eight feet high!) The second time I found (for free) a Honda 70 cc Passport with a messed up head! That one is still sitting in my shop waiting for some cash for the new parts.
Some folks just have all the luck! Sounds like a great project. Have fun with it!
Rif

   RE:RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Schwinn Whizzer posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/27/2002 at 7:38:12 PM
Linda! Don't give the location of your junk piles away, and keep looking! We don't hear about Whizzers being pulled from junk piles too often these days. You are a lucky lady!
I paid $20.00 for info and I send it out free when people ask me for Whizzer info. Send me a postal address and I'll send along phantom diagrams and info.

Does anybody have a web site where this stuff can be posted? Let me know! I'll send it along! Pretty soon everybody could be leering at Whizzer motorbike information thaks to little old me!






AGE / VALUE:   monark super twin posted by: steve davison on 4/18/2002 at 12:54:26 AM
hello all - i have purchased a monark super twin motorized
bike - the tag on the steering stem says monark silver king
i would like to restore it and am curious as to its value
and where i can get info/literature etc... any help would be appreciated - the bike is in relatively good condition
i bought it a couple of years ago - it had been in storage since 1964 - thanks steve


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   monark super twin posted by JimW. on 4/18/2002 at 6:22:21 AM
You lucky dawg! That's got to be one of the most desirable motorbikes there is. For one thing, it's based on a Silver King, which is one of the greatest classic bikes there is, and for another, it's got a beautiful two-cylinder engine on it. What a find! I have no idea what a really nice example would go for, but it would have to be a lot of money. I'd give you at least $100 for it. 8-) Of course, I'm notoriously cheap. Speaking of which, I just bought a motorbike on eBay for $26: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1820373242&r=0&t=0
It has a Tanaka J-12 4-stroke engine on ir, which Rif and Mike Schneider say isn't a common motor in this country. When I tear it down, I guess I'd better wear my black-widow proof gloves. It may also have termites, as there's a chunk of wood in there, too.






WANTED:   JOHNSON MW TANK AND BADGE posted by: xhtc@hotmail.com on 4/17/2002 at 3:47:39 PM
$$$$ paid or Have merkel smith and briggs mw parts and bicycle items to trade

For pics, please see:

http://www.schwinnbike.com/heritage/classifieds_messages/799.html

http://www.schwinnbike.com/heritage/classifieds_messages/839.html


   RE:WANTED:   JOHNSON MW TANK AND BADGE posted by Bob Johnson on 5/18/2002 at 5:46:06 AM
Hi, I have built one Johnson MW tank for a friend, the only hard part to come up with are the end caps. mabey we can get more caps spun out, and make a few tanks.






AGE / VALUE:   ROADMASTER WHIZZER posted by: Joe on 4/12/2002 at 5:37:09 AM
Just took on an interesting project and is what i believe to be a purpose built roadmaster whizzer it has the sturmy archer front brake with heavy gauge spokes and the big leather seat .and the whizzer front end .the engine i was told was removed years ago to be worked over.i was hopeing to find some info or some facts on this type of bike .thanks Joe







MISC:   Old Schwinn and Raleigh dealer Open House - 28-APR-02 posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 4/9/2002 at 4:28:41 PM
A shop in our area (Massachusetts) is having an Vintage Bicycle sale on Sunday, April 28, 2002.
They are placing all of their new bikes downstairs and filling their shop floor with over 100 vintage bicycles including a 47 WHIZZER.
They've been a Schwinn/Raleigh dealership since 1969 and have some great bikes.
We'll be posting a larger notice with directions, pictures and more info shortly. In the meantime, mark your calendars!

-Vin
VVVintage Vintage Bicycles
http://OldRoads.com







AGE / VALUE:   Flying bicycle, did it work or not? posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/4/2002 at 1:00:05 AM
This article I have mentions that this professor's flying bicycle project was discontinued for lack of funds.
Lack of funds? I don't believe that.

It was supposed to fly at 60 feet for a 30 mile radius. Now next thing he's transferred to another project,
Worked on re- entry problems for space vehicles!
Space vehicles for Gods sake!
Hoo- boy. I got dizzy!
I think the flying bicycle was real, real enough that somebody took notice and gave this fellow some "Real work to do"
Discontinued? No, I think not.

If he was a crackpot, idiot, nitwit and the flying bicycle was a failure then why promote him to important work.
This was 40 years ago too.
So come on here, the flying bicycle has been done already. Think of it as somebody's mid term project that got him or her sent on to better projects. Or was the newspaper writer smoking something and pulling my leg.
Then why write it and in something trade related and respectable? Now if I find him and ask about it. he'll say "Now I can't talk to you about that!" and even if he didn't say that and let you in on it, you likely would wish to heaven you never met the man nor seen what is covered up in the barn shed.
imaginary scene:
Roger that, 10 4 we have a flying bicycle, 10 4 over!
requesting assistance, over. I'm shaking them off me (trying to) yelling, What?? I got this in a garage sale!

What happened to this man and the prototype bike/ plane I'll never know and it's probably better this way.
But, If I do manage to come up with something like this I hope I get to work on important things like he did!

Better to say that it crashed, the fellow was weird and crazy and whatever you do, Don't tell me he went on to work on something important sounding like space work. IT sounds too legitimate when they say that.

Article say's "A Frenchman" anyways! So who will know!


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Flying bicycle, did it work or not? posted by sam on 4/5/2002 at 12:19:04 AM
Sept.1931-Glide-O-Bike Company Lock Box 266,Dallas Tex. Friends here is my 25cents.please rush my Glide-o-Bike Plans along with air terms and airport instructions.






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Speedibike Motor posted by: JimW. on 3/31/2002 at 9:31:00 PM
A friend recently sent me a set of photocopied pages from a
book published by Johnson-Smith in 1938. Yes, that's the catalog with the X-Ray Spex. The book is titled
"How To Build Midget Racers", and it covers the basics of building small vehicles of various kinds, even a seaplane!
This book actually serves as a kind of catalog of plan sets
for the various vehicles. One short chapter on "Motorizing Your Bicycle". What the chapter was actually selling was
a bike motor sold by Johnson-Smith. Called "Speedibike" it
featured rear wheel friction drive, with a large lever for disengagement. It cost $59.95 at that time. That was a fair amount of money, but I'd think they would have sold a lot of them. How come I've never heard of it before? Chances are that J-S didn't make it themselves, but got them somewhere else. I have an illustration showing the set-up, but it looks pretty generic, engine-wise.


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Speedibike Motor posted by JimW. on 3/31/2002 at 9:44:55 PM
I just ran a search and didn't find much info, but I did find that Evinrude made it. I want one.

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Speedibike Motor posted by Rif on 4/2/2002 at 2:59:27 AM
Me too! :-}






WANTED:   LOOKING FOR DAYTON MOTORBIKE OF FRAME posted by: Brian on 3/24/2002 at 3:48:13 AM
I have a Dayton bicycle motor circa 1917 and am looking for a frame. The motor fits in the front fork. Would buy or trade complete bike also.


   RE:WANTED:   LOOKING FOR DAYTON MOTORBIKE OF FRAME posted by sam on 3/25/2002 at 12:25:16 AM
Brian can you email me a photo of this? I just finished building a teens Dayton and would really like to see this motor---sam

   RE:WANTED:   LOOKING FOR DAYTON MOTORBIKE OF FRAME posted by Bill on 4/3/2002 at 9:36:56 PM
Brian,
I have a fairly complete Dayton, but need some spares. Would you consider selling your engine?






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer Gas Tank posted by: Jimmy on 3/23/2002 at 3:52:57 PM
hello, Yesterday I finished painting a Whizzer gast tank, the one with WHIZZER stamped into it, and now I want one to restore or paint, I found a few on ebay but does anyone make a reproduction for a cheaper price?I only want it to paint and maybe sell.These gas tanks are pretty neat! and I would enjoy producing my own paint job. Any help would be appreciated!!Thanks.


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer Gas Tank posted by JimW. on 3/25/2002 at 6:27:38 AM
The Whizzers are being made again, and you can buy tanks from them. I don't know if they're cheap, and I kind of doubt that the Whizzer logo is stamped in the metal. Looks more like a decal to me. See the catalog page at:
http://whizzermotorbike.catalog.com/browseGroup.cfm?item_group_id=48797

   RE:RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Whizzer Gas Tank posted by Chris on 4/3/2002 at 9:06:27 PM
Mr. Honda who already had 100 patents to his name took a good look at the Whizzer bike comming from Pontiac, Michigan. Then he used army two stroke engines that ran on pine tree root extract. He put the engines on not heavy, gaudy balloon tire bikes but onto the Japaneese version of English rod brake bikes with the 28 inch wheels.

This was the start of the Honda Motor Company. Fuel was scarce in immediate post war ruined Japan and once they got the thing started it ran alone just fine. Pine tree root extract! Then another two models of motorized bicycle.
Then a European factory, then agressive marketing in Britain.
The Early Honda 50 was equiped with decent leg sheild farings and a standard clutch where as Raleigh and ALL the other manufacturers made you pay for and order a fairing.

The Honda was powerful, key word here is R-E-L-I-A-B-L-E,
leg shields kept you dry. It was far ahead of all the competion and there was a lot of it for the Japaneese in the late 50's early 1960's. The British and Italians and French but especially the British took it apart, got a look at what they were up against and they were saying "Oh Sh**!" This was the end of the Raleigh Moped, Phillips Panda, Norman Nippy, N.S.U., Phillips Gadabout, Hercules Corvette moped and a good deal of other names too. Soon it was all gone. A memory. I have an very early Honda 50 Moped but I still love to collect the Brit stuff.
First motorizerd bicycles running on alternative fuel
then the scooter market
cars,
light trucks
later the luxury car market
One article mentions light aircraft as something they were looking to get into. However I am not certain what they did with aircraft as I have not yet heard of Honda planes.
It knocked me on my butt to learn the Mitsubishi Zero was designed by Howard Hughes! Our Howard Hughes! They stole the plans and built it! Light, agile, able to turn on a dime and then open fire on our guys. That was not good people! Not at all!

When the **** (and ******* too) lawn mower engine balked at tall, wet grass I mumbled "This is Bull- Shi!" I looked into the trailer of the professional companies. Guess what the small machines were? Decks with HONDA ENGINES!

So I pulled off the ***** and ********* engine off and tossed it out. I didn't even have to drill in the mower deck. It droped in easily, ran so nicely, never hesitates for a second in wet grass neither. It was a good "marriage" the Honda engine with the ***** self propelled 5 speed selector, deck and drawer type grass catcher. You see the pros need and depend on this equipment so, It has to be reliable. So why not me too? And besides, I went into business on the back of this reliable engine.
The mower shop guys had a real fit, angry! But now I only need them for a belt or some small part and thankfully and surprisingly, the ******* gearbox is fairly reliable.

Now Honda Marine engines too! Think of it! No problems out on the lake, just fishing, boating, water sking as God intended!
If Preston Tucker had a diffrent mindset and system behind him like Mr. Honda did, things would be very diffrent. America would have been much, much better off.
Given the choice, I would rather hang with Preston too.
American styling, the luxery of a Cadillac or Lincoln with real reliability under the hood and innovation not stupidity at the companies and dealerships. It could have been truly glorious.
The inventions concieved here on the home soil are wonderful and incredible. This country is not made up of "Spinger" but BRILLIANT, SHARP, INTELLIGENT, and INVENTIVE people.
I sat throught the movie "Black Hawk Down" and my prayer is this. Just do not send us into war or conflict with antiquated, unreliable, obsolete garbage. If somebody can hit a tail rotor and bring the whole thing down with a domino effect unfolding, and everything getting worse and more lives lost then it has to be re- thought. Hit a tail rotor with a single missle? My brothers and contrymen in that helicopter? Then the helicopter as a tool has to go. Or be made secure. It's not acceptable, it's obsolete and stupid.
Look, the television, V.C.R. industry, scooters, cars, trucks and the rest of it is bad enough. But the Military Equipment needs to be updated. The military men need to sit down and talk with the modern day Honda, Tucker, Tesla type genius and look at "Black Hawk Down"
and ask "What can we do diffrently?"

Our soldiers should not die of bullet wounds anymore. Not in the New Age of Technology. We solved many problems 80 years ago, with brilliant minds working on stuff since. So where is it? Night vision goggles are a good start. Now protect men, machinery,buildings, and the country.

If you were to go to Nikola Tesla or others and tell them and show them the bloody bodies of wounded or dead soldiers and ask for his help what would he say to you?
Perhaps, "They won't let me work on it" Or "They won't spend money to build it, son." Do they not realize untold trouble could be avoided by some little electronic gizmo that was invented by some guy in his garage in South Dakota in 1928?
Why do we waste and hamper,and surpress the life work of innovative minds in our this country? I'm sick of hearing
"It is the American way"
The America I believe in, is a glorious, smarter,better place than what we see today.

We do not need to cry like King Peter of Serbia did in 1942. We have made progress since.

It's like you love something dearly, and it is a thing to be proud of, A thing that is special like nothing else. And then what gets in the way and wrecks it is some stupid, small thing. A life draining mindset from among your own people. No less.






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   hekp please... posted by: Rif Addams on 3/22/2002 at 4:05:13 PM
Hi All,
I am seeking any and all info concerning a 1903 circa California Motor Bicycle.
Any old photos, advertisements, specifications, ANYTHING at all.
a few of us are working on building a near replica, but only have a few rough xerox pictures.
Can anyone at all be of assistance?!?!
Thanks in advance,
Rif :-}