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Archived: Reproductions and Motorized Bicycles







MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Saginaw powerbike posted by: Brad on 5/8/2003 at 7:35:27 PM
WTB or ANY info on a Saginaw power bike, or a Sears J C Higgins motocycle or maybe Elgin. These were made in the mid to late 40s.
These had a regular bicycle in front and a power unit that replaced the rear wheel in back. Either Briggs or Clinton powered.
They had a 12 rear tire in the back. Any info or history PLEASE Emailme
Thanks


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Saginaw powerbike posted by Art. on 5/25/2003 at 5:53:49 PM
I have this bike. Purchased by my father in 1946 from sears roebuck. I still have the orignal title.The orignal bike section was lost many years ago, The motor assembly is orignal and has been restored and mounted on a bike of the same vintage.It was a J C Higgans bike with a briggs and stratton motor.











MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Pictures of Riff Adams Bike posted by: Mike Schneider on 5/8/2003 at 6:37:52 PM
Have you guys seen the pictures of Riff Adams' s Moto Bike for the Wyman Run?

Sharp, Classic, Across the USA, WOW, Neat-O-Jet

(HMD)History Makin Dude - Mr. Riff

Mike



   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Pictures of Riff Adams Bike posted by raphel on 6/25/2003 at 5:44:51 PM
i wish to know the actual amount or your bike.






REPRODUCTIONS:   Value of 1998-1999 Whizzer posted by: Travis on 5/2/2003 at 10:46:59 PM
I'm looking at buying a 1998 Whizzer with 200 miles. The guy is asking $1200. I'm wanting to know if it would be worth that or how much one would be worth. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Travis


   RE:REPRODUCTIONS:   Value of 1998-1999 Whizzer posted by JimW. on 5/3/2003 at 12:43:35 AM
Since they get about $800 for one of the new engines, I suppose the price is in line. Whether it's worth it is another matter. It's a great-looking engine, but it isn't the solid collectible that the old ones are, so it has to stand on performance vs. price.

   RE:RE:REPRODUCTIONS:   Value of 1998-1999 Whizzer posted by Rif on 5/5/2003 at 5:53:07 PM
From what I've been told by a number of Whizzer fellows, the early ones had a lot of problems. You might be better off finding a later 1999 - 2003, as the bugs were worked out.
I don't know from personal experience, I'm just passing along what I've been advised of.
Rif

   RE:REPRODUCTIONS:   Value of 1998-1999 Whizzer posted by dum dum on 6/1/2003 at 6:53:49 AM
I would not recommend buying it at all. Whizzer engines are very unreliable and are a dime a dozen nowadays. But you probably don't plan on riding it anyway - you probably plan to park it in the living room and stare at it and brag about it to friends, right? If you just want a reliable bike with motor, go to staton-inc.com and get a chain drive kit with Honda motor for half the price of the Whizzer.

   RE:REPRODUCTIONS:   Value of 1998-1999 Whizzer posted by David A. on 6/3/2003 at 5:18:10 PM
Great information on origonal and reproduction Whizzers
at WWW.geocities.com/whizzer_17044/






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   compression rings for bike bug posted by: chad on 4/29/2003 at 10:31:49 PM
I need new compression rings for my bike bug. I have tried small engine repair shops, but with out a part number no part. Even if I show them the piston. Eny suggstions helpfull.


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   compression rings for bike bug posted by Larry Wlos on 4/30/2003 at 3:20:08 PM
Dave Reed of Otto Gas Engine Works will have them,about 5.00 each. 410 398 7340.Give him a try.

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   compression rings for bike bug posted by Mike Schneider on 5/2/2003 at 1:34:10 PM
Chad:

You get get the part number & rings from Tanaka. Go to www.tanakapowerequipment.com for a parts lists. Then contact information for parts.

Hope you have the wind in face soon.

BITW

Mike






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   compression rings for bike bug posted by: chad on 4/29/2003 at 10:31:49 PM
I need new compression rings for my bike bug. I have tried small engine repair shops, but with out a part number no part. Even if I show them the piston. Eny suggstions helpfull.


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   compression rings for bike bug posted by Larry Wlos on 5/12/2003 at 2:15:29 PM
Dave Reed 410 398 7340 should have them






WANTED:   carb kit posted by: Frank Long on 4/29/2003 at 12:42:52 PM
I'm looking for a carb kit for a O&R Chicken power motor.
Thanks







WANTED:   muffler can posted by: Frank Long on 4/25/2003 at 3:28:25 AM
I'm looking for a muffler can for a o&r chicken power bicycle motor! HELP!


   RE:WANTED:   muffler can posted by JimW. on 4/27/2003 at 10:39:41 PM
If your "chicken power" motor is anything like my earler ORline motor, the muffler isn't a can; it doesn't even look like one, it looks more like a little disc-like air cleaner than a muffler. Are you sure yours is missing?

   RE:RE:WANTED:   muffler can posted by Frank on 4/29/2003 at 12:51:09 PM
the muffler on this bike motor is realy nothing but a real tin can! Thanks for the reply, I've found one!

   RE:RE:WANTED:   muffler can posted by Chris on 5/1/2003 at 8:35:11 PM
Reading this I learned that mine is an earlier one. Thanks Jim, I love ya for teaching me stuff.

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   muffler can posted by JimW. on 5/2/2003 at 7:49:15 AM
You're welcome, Chris. My motor was complete except for the air cleaner. It probably looks just like a muffler. 8-) I'm going to make my own for it. Those chrome bike bugle horns make great dragster-style "Velocity Stacks", when you add a foam air filter cut to fit the bell. it can be held into the bell with a perforated chrome drain cover. Since they have all those changes in direction, you can cut the horn to make a forward-facing stack, even if your carb faces the rear.






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   sears motorized bicycle posted by: BRUCE on 4/25/2003 at 1:09:04 AM
does anyone know anything about a motorized bicycle sold by sears & roebuck but made by saginaw products. it looks like a regular bike but with rear wheel removed and a motor unit put in its place with a small wheel & tire like a mini bike. at first glance i thought somebody made it but it appears to be something sears sold. anyone know a value??


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   sears motorized bicycle posted by Scrap on 4/26/2003 at 7:19:19 AM
The value would be whatever someone is willing to pay for it.






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Velosolex - how much is too much? posted by: rob on 4/22/2003 at 11:52:03 PM
hi,

I"m looking to purchase a velosolex 3800 for fun around the city, and am wondering how much I should expect to pay.

I've seen new ones (from Hungary I presume) for $1200 or $1300. Does anyone know how much should I expect to pay for a second hand one, perhaps a 1950 or 1960 3800 model in good running condition?


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   Velosolex - how much is too much? posted by ron on 6/2/2003 at 2:39:51 AM
i think i seen one today it looks like a moped but the motor was on the front wheel is that what you are looking for






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   found an IPB posted by: Larry Brink on 4/21/2003 at 8:03:25 PM
Bike Bug owners far and wide...
In my search to find a drive wheel I found this free site with a complete breakdown for two different Bike Bug designs. The listings are at the bottom of the page under bike engines. Hope this helps

http://www.tanaka-usa.com/index.php?b=dpl

P.S. Anybody have a drive roller or a kill switch they'd be willing to part with?


   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   found an IPB posted by Mike Schneider on 4/22/2003 at 5:09:30 AM
Larry:

I bought two kill switches from Tanaka a year ago. Pretty sure they have more cause it the same switch they put on their outboard motor and the Sears gamefisher outboard.

Drive Wheel - I can help you with. Drive Hub - Gerald Rosen's idea about a piece of tube stock with a washer welded on the end and a key area cut with a file should work fine. As best I know Tanaka has been sold out of drive hubs for ayear or better.

Have you heard from Gerald. I emailed him your address and request for his results on a hub?

BITW

Mike

   RE:MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   found an IPB posted by Mike Schneider on 4/22/2003 at 6:25:36 PM
Drive Wheel Installation on Drive Hub

I boil the wheel in water. It makes the hole in the wheel expand and the wheel more pilable (won't crack as easily). Remove the wheel with channel locks.

Place the wheel and the drive hub in a vise and press the wheel onto the hub or use a board and a hammer to pound the wheel onto the hub.

You can put the flat side of the wheel on the inside or outside of the motor - either way works fine - just lettering looks better on outside - like tire lettering.

Anyway hope that helps.

Would enjoy getting a picture of your rig.

Hope we have the "Wind In Your Face" soon.

BITW

Mike






WANTED:   WTB: Whizzer in Indiana, Ohio, or Illinios area posted by: Travis on 4/18/2003 at 1:29:21 PM
I'm looking for a whizzer to purchase in the indiana, ohio, or Illinois area. Can be old or reproduction. Any help would be appreciated


   RE:WANTED:   WTB: Whizzer in Indiana, Ohio, or Illinios area posted by Larry Wlos on 4/18/2003 at 4:12:51 PM
Memory Lane swap meet APRIL 25 26 2003 Ann Arbor Mich. swap meet April 27 Pana ILL. swap meet May 31 Portland Ind. swap meet all have whizzers for sale both original and repros. SEE YOU THERE! SNAKE

   RE:RE:WANTED:   WTB: Whizzer in Indiana, Ohio, or Illinios area posted by Larry Wlos on 4/18/2003 at 4:15:46 PM
Portland Meet dates July 9 10 11 12 2003. Huge meet,be there!






WANTED:   WTB: Whizzer in Indiana, Ohio, or Illinios area posted by: Travis on 4/18/2003 at 1:29:21 PM
I'm looking for a whizzer to purchase in the indiana, ohio, or Illinois area. Can be old or reproduction. Any help would be appreciated







AGE / VALUE:   Getting Started posted by: Shannon Reynolds on 4/18/2003 at 6:28:52 AM
I have been thinking about motorizing a bike for some time now. One of the things that I have been wondering about is proper engine size. I read somewhere that standard bike parts like deraileurs and such cannot handle more than 1.5 hp. What is the minimum size engine a person could use on a standard bike, say a 24 or 26 inch, 27 speed, where they would never have to pedal unless they wanted to? (I am thinking in terms of hills and such.)
Engine placement is another concern. Inside the frame, the risk of burns and simple heat discomfort would seem to be a problem. Is positioning the engine over the rear wheel a better choice or could the wieght possibly be a hinderance to balance since it would be higher on the center of gravity?
I realise that these are probably dumb questions but I am new to the idea of motorizing a bike and as a newbie I'd like to learn what I can. Is there any sites that focus exclusively on motorizing bikes?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Getting Started posted by JimW. on 4/21/2003 at 7:39:09 PM
Nothing dumb about those questions. In states which have regulations concerning unlicensed motor bicycles, the limit for displacement is generally 50cc. You can usually count on this to put out at least 1.5 hp. You shouldn't need to pedal unless you want to at this power level, and it shouldn't strain bike components.

There's no right answer about engine location; otherwise kits wouldn't be available in so many configurations. It generally comes down to personal preference. There's a lot to be said for keeping the center of gravity low, but most of the weight of a human body is above the waist and above the bike's seat; and that's considerably more than the weight of a small engine. There are also many choices for how the engine's power is transferred to the driven wheel. Systems which drive the tire itself are simpler than those which drive the hub or spokes; however tire-friction is prone to slippage in wet weather. But, basically it's a matter of taste.

One engine location you hardly ever see is above the top tube and behind the head (steerer)tube. Getting the power to the rear wheel would be more complicated, but it certainly could be done by exercising some mechanical creativity. The cool thing about this, is that the engine would be more visible up there, therefore more "hot rod" than in most other locations. It would be fairly simple to work it into a streamlined fairing containing its fuel tank. Power could be transmitted to the rear via a shaft, with a bevel gear set at the seat tube location to change the power path to the usual transverse orientation. From that point, chain and sprocket or pulley and belt could be used to drive the rear wheel. Granted, this may sound weird, but only because everyone else doesn't do it that way. And of course, if you had one of those teeny V8 engines, this would be the ideal location for it.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Getting Started posted by sam on 4/21/2003 at 11:20:21 PM
A simpler way to mount above the top bar would be to use one of those 80s schwinns that had the freewheel built into the BB.Run a chain to the small sprocket and leave the rear to the big sprocket.You would also have 5 speeds with the rear derailer and the pedals stop turning because that iswhere the freewheel is.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Getting Started posted by JimW. on 4/26/2003 at 5:31:36 AM
Gee Sam, you've been reading my mind again. I got one of those freewheeling cranksets specifically for use on MotoCandiru, for the same reason. It'll have a Nexus7 on the rear. If I can find a 125cc engine, it'll do about 150mph. If I can't find one of those, it's back to multi-Macs.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Getting Started posted by retrovideo@email.com on 4/26/2003 at 7:31:18 AM
Go to www.staton-inc.com. This guy makes high quality machined sprocket hubs that you get laced onto your bike wheel. Also, he sells high quality rear engine motor kits with Honda and other brand motors. Chain drive all the way. He sells on ebay under "motorizedfunproducts". Also check out www.draftprecision.com. This is a rear mount Honda with a fancy belt drive system. Cost is high because the guy makes you buy a whole bike instead of offering a motor kit. These are the best ways to go to motorize a bike. By the time you tinker for months and months, you'll end up spending this much anyway and still may not have a running bike.






MOTORIZED BICYCLES:   bikebug parts posted by: Larry Brink on 4/18/2003 at 12:19:18 AM
My father picked up my bikebug when I was eight years old at a garge sale for ten dollars. Now I'm 23 and I'd like to get it running for my younger brother. It's been sitting for quite a while, and there are a few items I need:
1. Kill button with small spring that sits behind it
2. New roller(would love to have the indestructable wet weather type)
Also do they make a carb kit for bikebugs? Will pay via money order to anybody can supply me with these items.








AGE / VALUE:   Motor on a 3 Wheeler posted by: Mike Schneider on 4/17/2003 at 7:27:44 PM
I am interested in putting a TAS Spitz on a Trike (3 Wheel Bicycle). Haven't doen it - Have got some photos from folks that have.

A guy in Austin, Texas has some Workover 3 Wheel Bikes for sale. (The bikes came from a GM assembly plant where they used them in the plant. The Workman Bike looks heavy duty compared to others I have seen.

Looking for your experience before I buy one and try it.

BITW (Brothers In The Wind)

Mike


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motor on a 3 Wheeler posted by Larry Wlos on 4/17/2003 at 10:50:53 PM
Mike ,I have a trike with a Free Spirit engine on it, same engine as Tas Spitz. Make sure you use a wheel with a front brake because of the weight of the trike. My trike is a Worksman, heavy duty. It runs well but I am removing it and mounting a 5HP Honda on the back.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motor on a 3 Wheeler posted by Rif on 4/26/2003 at 3:42:04 AM
Mike,
I had my Bike-Bug mounted on my 24" Scwhinn Tri-Wheeler for a while. It was cool for running erands to the store! People really dug it when I'd load up a couple of grocery sacks and buzz away!
My first ride on it with the motor was slightly less than triumphant However.
I got peddaling up to speed and grabbed the shifter. After a few seconds the motor sputtered to life and took over! I was rolling up the street like nobody's business. I went to turn, forgetting about the turning situation on a trike, and promptly ended up on my head.
Pretty funny. The only thing hurt was my pride.
Rif