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Archived: English Roadsters







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   3 Speed to 5 Speed posted by: Tom Faust on 7/3/2000 at 12:56:50 PM
I would like to convert my 1973 Sports from 3 Speed to 5 Speed. I have a '69 5 speed hub kicking around, but find the dual levers inelegant. Was there such a thing as a 5 Speed trigger shifter? Any ideas?


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   3 Speed to 5 Speed posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 7/3/2000 at 1:54:46 PM
Not until recently have there been a single shifter for the new 5 speed hub and I am not certain if the old hub will work correctly with a new shifter. Is your intended hub the same drilling as the rim you want to use?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   3 Speed to 5 Speed posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 7/3/2000 at 1:55:11 PM
Not until recently have there been a single shifter for the new 5 speed hub and I am not certain if the old hub will work correctly with a new shifter. Is your intended hub the same drilling as the rim you want to use?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   3 Speed to 5 Speed posted by Steve B on 7/3/2000 at 4:43:45 PM
It sounds like you don't like the console shifter with the 2 large knobs (which I didn't want on my top tube either).
I replaced my AW gear with the S5 gear (also 1969), and have had no problems using 2 of the normal 3 speed shifters, one for each side. (I think Sheldon Brown describes this on his website.) You just have to keep the hub oiled and make sure the left hand cable is tight to get the super high and low gears.

You get the normal 3 speeds when the left hand shifter is in position 3, and the extra high and low gears in position 2.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   3 Speed to 5 Speed posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/8/2000 at 9:52:09 AM
If you use a newer single lever 5 speed shifter with the S-5 1 OR THE S-5 2 It will work but it will not work with an origonal s-5 five speed as an improper gear change sequence will result. You could do what sheldon recommends, probably cheaper.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   3 Speed to 5 Speed posted by Tom Faust on 7/10/2000 at 9:27:51 PM
Thanks for all the help. I assembled it and am using opne of the console levers mounted on the downtube for the moment. The lever came of a woman's model and would only clamp to the down tube. I removed the other lever with a grinder. I don't have enough spares, particularly the pulley, to mount another 3 speed shifer. I will probably use a small lever from a ten speed. The gear ratios seem to high and I think I will try a 20 tooth sprocket. Thanks again.






AGE / VALUE:   Spa Bonderizing or Bonderite posted by: Christopher on 7/3/2000 at 10:35:13 AM
While driving I noticed all the awful rusty cars and I was wondering why the car companies do not use the bonderizing process today. I mean, I have 60 year old bicycles that have been bonderized against rust at factory and they look great without any problem but the $20,000 automobiles rust and look horrible within a few short years. What's up with this? It does not make sense. Weather it is a Oldsmobile or a Honda it does not matter it still rusts out. Floor boards, door panels, hoods, everything. I cannot believe that these huge companies do not have more pride in their product. With all of the years of R&D you cannot tell me they have not figured out ways to keep a car from rusting away. If it was done sucessfully with bicycles then why not with a car? Especially with the ever increasing cost of a new car?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Spa Bonderizing or Bonderite posted by Mike Q. on 7/4/2000 at 8:10:38 AM
Ah-ha! You don't understand marketing. The car companies don't want your car to last 60 years. Their strategy is to sell you a new car every five years. And, guess who was in the forefront of promoting road "salting" to get rid of ice? Back in the 50s/60s the auto manufacturers even paid cities to do it! For all I know they still do.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Spa Bonderizing or Bonderite posted by sam on 7/4/2000 at 9:47:06 AM
When Ford first built their classic Mustangs the floor boards started rusting out very early.Why?They didn't paint the inside of the fresh air vent.this let rain in and the floor boards rusted out from the inside out!Ford built the Mustang to last only about 4 years,it's a shame,they only saved about 50 cents on paint.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Spa Bonderizing or Bonderite posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/5/2000 at 10:29:05 AM
I knew the answer already, I just wanted to throw this out there to see what people would add to my thoughts. This is called "planned obsolence" The product is intended to only last a short while then wear out, break down, leaving the wife stranded on the highway. Then the customer is supposed to keep comming back for more of the same treatment. Buy that make again? I don' think so!!!t This "disposable society business" One favorite bicycle author said "All cars are ego structured, tin crap, junk!" I never cease to be amazed.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Spa Bonderizing or Bonderite posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/7/2000 at 11:30:34 AM
Pierce Arrow had an aluminum body so it did not rust but they did corrode if they got into road salt.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Oops posted by: Fred on 7/3/2000 at 8:36:26 AM
I found something mildly amusing this morning. While listing the year of manufacture of my Raleigh made bikes this morning I found that one of my green sports was apparently made in the 13th month of 1969. What would we call it, "extrauary" The workman who made the error probably called it, "aw s--t", or maybe the British equivalent, "bloody s--t".


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Oops posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/3/2000 at 10:35:00 AM
Another thing I have seen is where someone made a mistake and then stamped over the error with the proper date or number.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Oops posted by Steve B. on 7/3/2000 at 4:46:11 PM
The bicycle store owner in Baltimore told me that second number was a lot number, not specicially the month. While they are generally similar, one does see lot numbers higher than 12.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Oops posted by Fred on 7/3/2000 at 6:58:50 PM
This lot number theory disputes everything I have seen on S-A hub dating. If it is true then how can one know what decade is defined by the single digit. Also, how many double digits do you see over the number 12. This was my first of at least a hundred hubs examined. No, I'm sticking to the prevailing definition of the numbers until proven otherwise.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Oops posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/5/2000 at 10:33:36 AM
I agree, when it comes to the hubs I believe it is the month and year stamped on it. However I think that other numbers elsewhere probably did have a lot number stamped on it, or some factory code I cannot understand. What do all these numbers mean anyway? I am sure there is a good reason, a purpose to it. Perhaps we are not supposed to concern ourselves anyway.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Oops posted by jason on 7/5/2000 at 9:14:41 PM
After watching this thread, I went through all my bikes today.... OUt of 10, only one was "weird." My AMF Hercules is stamped 69 14 on it's AW 3speed hub... This may be worth some clarification....or not.... just as fun to ride!!!

cheers..

Jason






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Phillips Bicycle posted by: Al on 7/3/2000 at 8:37:30 AM
Just acquired an older (1930's-1940's?) Phillips bicycle manufactured in Birmingham, England. Trying to get basic info on brand/value/etc. Please respond. Thank you.


   What Questions I usually ask posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/3/2000 at 11:01:25 AM
Ooohh, A Phillips!! I love Phillips. What size wheels? 26 or 28? Maybe this is a 27 inch touring model? cable brake or rod brakes? what model hub? A.W. S.W. (THREE SPEEDS)F.M. F.W.(FOUR SPEEDS) Which hub do you have? Does the shifter say 3 or 4 speed? Is this a alloy shell hub? It may say "alloy" on the hub.What year hub is this? what does it say on the hub shell?( surface of the hub) take a rag and wipe off the oily grime on the outside, it should say 4-51 or something. Is this a mens or ladies frame? How are the decals?Any dents or rust? How is the chrome plating? Is it pitted or worn off? Has this bike been used heavily or abused? or well kept. How are the badges with the cool Phillips Lion, are these in good shape? Does this have a rack or a bell? What about a lighting set? is there one? Condition? Do you have any tools or paper reciepts or catalogs?any spare parts? What color? Phillips made many models so I need to know a little more about your particular find.

   RE:What Questions I usually ask posted by Al on 7/4/2000 at 6:01:45 PM
Hi Christopher! Thanks for your quick response regarding the Phillips bicycle. Here's some additional info - rims are 26" (made by Dunlop in England), tires are SAF-TEE (made in Korea), seat is nylon (molded by Matex in Japan), kickstand serial #2018531 Wald Pat.d, bike is ladies. No badges, just decals on front and also on fork which say Guaranteed Phillips all British Fork. Rod brakes, no gears. Hub says Phillips, Made in England. No numbers visible under the grime. Chain crank says Phillips and the bicycle serial # is 139251. Being a novice, I think the condition of the paint is between good and very good for an old bike. No rust and chrome is slightly pitted and cleans up nicely. Will await your reply. Thanks. Al

   Phillips bicycle posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/5/2000 at 10:59:53 AM
You have Dunlop Westwood pattern rims. These are origonal. Tires have been replaced of course, that's o.k. The seat has been switched and is not origonal. It should be A Brooks leather, or a Brooks vinal matress or Lycette or Phillips leather saddle(Phillips had their own name on wonderfull leather seats. I suspect that Brooks made the Phillips seats? Wald Kickstand are commonly found on these bikes.I preferr the origonal Raleigh or Phillips alloy propstand. This sounds like a Raleigh made B-grade ladies bike meant for the U.S. market. However it is a rod brake and the single speed freewheel models are not see as much as a 3 speed. First time I ever heard of the decal "Guarenteed all British Fork" Phillips wanted to reassure us that the Fork is origonal or of sound quality? Strange. Are all the rod parts there, nothing missing? This is a single speed freewheel model, you can get replacement freewheels today. Too bad it is not a mens frame. Check out E-bay to see what these are selling for. Usually what turns up are cable brake bikes.






AGE / VALUE:   Moulton spacing...??? Upgrade posted by: Jason on 7/2/2000 at 8:28:43 PM
HOwdy folks... A friend has a 16" wheeled Moulton...probably one of the originals from the 60's. He would like to swap his SA 4speed out to something with a little more range/gears.... Any suggestions... I think this has 114mm spacing... Kinda tight for everything I know of....

Cheers...

Jason "3 speeds ok 4 me" Orr







MISC:   TV coverage of Tour de France posted by: Fred on 7/2/2000 at 4:28:17 AM
For the TV schedule of the Tour de France go to: http://www.tvgrid.com/, and using quick search enter; "tour de france". Follow directions to get your local schedule.







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:    posted by: Deb on 7/1/2000 at 11:03:44 AM
Ebay has a Swiss Army bicycle-item #368929251--out of my price range but interesting.

Deb


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:    posted by sam on 7/1/2000 at 6:37:01 PM
Same bike for sale at www.deutscheoptik.com only ebay photos load faster---price $699

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:    posted by Paul M. on 7/2/2000 at 10:17:49 PM
Very interesting. I was surprised to see one here in the U.S.A. The Swiss Army still has bicycle troops. Just a few years ago they changed from that indestructable old single speed bike to a more modern bicycle. The new one is more like a mountain bike and is equipped with a derailleur and hydraulic brakes among other things.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:    posted by Paul M. on 7/3/2000 at 2:42:43 PM
In case anyone is interested, I just came across a picture of the new Swiss Army bike at http://www.lickbike.com/i2787050.htm
This guy is selling new bikes which he claims are identical to the new Swiss Army bike for approx. $3,450.00!

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:    posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/6/2000 at 10:06:39 AM
What comes with the bike for that much money? I do not think I want to know.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:    posted by ART on 7/6/2000 at 6:34:09 PM
High bid on the Swiss Army bike was $570. It didn't meet the reserve. At the address that Sam gave it appears that they have several for sale.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Questions posted by: Brian on 7/1/2000 at 7:42:34 AM
I've a '64 womans Raleigh and need answers to the following
from some of you knowledgable ones:
1.how to remove/reinstall head badge
2.# and size of bearings in pedals,headset and BB
3.How to remove/reinstall fork crown dimples(those chrome inserts)
4.proper type and color for the original black enamel
5.type clear coat
6.locating repo decals
7.do threaded sleeve nuts which hold seatstays to chainstays
come out? Are they press fitted.I don't want to damage the
threads.All of the above is prep for paint.Thanks,Brian


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Questions posted by Warren on 7/2/2000 at 8:10:08 PM
1) drill out the rivet and gently pry the badge off...a good shop can rivet it back in place although some older bikes used small machine screws.
2) always count the bearings and keep examples to take when you buy new ones. Many are standard ie, 9 1/4" balls per side for bottom brackets but occasionally there are ten. You can also just place as many as will fit while leaving a little space.Buy bags of 100. Its cheaper and it sounds like this won't be your last restoration.
3) I wouldn't but they are probably friction fit...mask them off instead of removing them
4) as art directors are prone to say..."darker...lighter...split the difference!!" I think most blacks will be comfortably close.It's gotta be the easiest to get away with.
5) see #4...just use one that's compatible with your paint...ie lacquer on lacquer
6) do a search on these archives...there are repros available especially for Raleigh
7) leave them together...less pieces should save you money at a paint shop or just make it easier for you...
don't forget to seal off any threaded parts!

Five people will tell you five different ways of doing things. You have to also place a value on the bike and allocate the right amount of money, time and energy. The above represents what I would do, although FWIW, I wouldn't spend a fortune on decals for a "Sports". On second thought, these days I probably wouldn't do a Sports at all...but that's just me, ignore it. Good luck.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Questions posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/3/2000 at 11:28:15 AM
If you drill out the badge rivets sucessfully, you should not really have to pry the badge at all. just lift it off. You can really easily damage the badge if you start a -prying on it. This brings back terribly memories of when I lost a badge to a Urania bicycle.This is a old English Roadster Rod brake bicycle. Named after a British Battleship. Pal Garry, looked at me and asked "You lost the badge? " Especially to this bike where it is impossible to replace it? He looked at me angrily, with disdain, like I did something really terrible. It was my bike and he did not have to buy it and I already felt terrible. I most have dropped it and did I ever look and look but no luck. He still asks about this badge every time we talk.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Questions posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/3/2000 at 11:32:50 AM
Cyclart of Vista California did a stunning restoration of a Raleigh Sports It was the Mabel article they put out. They have a frame table and so they can straighten a bent frame and with the magic they do it can look better than new. Cyclart 2590 Pioneer Ave, Suite A Vista, California 92083 or on the web






AGE / VALUE:   Rudge Whitworth w/ Hercules Type A hub posted by: Boggled on 6/30/2000 at 1:48:13 PM
I've found an old Rudge-Whitworth Sports 3-speed (left side BB-oiler) that I cannot date due to my ignorance and the lack of a date-stamped SA hub.

It appears to be an assemblage of English 3-speed parts, including:

a SA 3- or 4-speed shifter,

a "normal" front rim (w/ workng Dynohub and repositioned lamp).

a Hercules Cycle & Motor Co. Type A alloy-shell hub on the rear Raleigh pattern rim

interesting chromed (barely, now) steel drop bars with brake-lever mounts brazed/welded on the flats on either side of the stem.
Rudge "hand" patterned chainring and brown hand logo on headbadge

It uses cable brakes. Will the usual handlebar-mounted levers fit here? I'll have to try.
It also has a heavy black rack mounted (clamped) to it.

I think the bars are original to the bike, but I suspect the wheels have been exchanged.

Is the Hercules Type A hub simply a re-branded Sturmey-Archer AW hub?
Any ideas as to the age of this hub or of the bike itself?

I plan to simply clean it up and run it again... perhaps with some new swapped fenders from a Royal Crown (cheap) brand English 3-speed (1955).

One man's trash is another man's pleasure.



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rudge Whitworth w/ Hercules Type A hub posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/1/2000 at 10:47:27 AM
The Hercules 3 speed is interchangable with the Sturmey-Archer A.W. three speed. However this is the first time I have ever heard of a "alloy shell" hub with Hercules stamped on it. Sturmey-Archer introduced the alloy shell hub in 1948 and they went up to 1956. I think this is a neat hub because is says Hercules. The 3 or 4 speed shifter is sought after and cool. Also a plus is the rack, lucky you!! This is about the early 1950's when this was made. Have fun with it!!






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   value of 1960's era Robin Hood and Dunelt posted by: Lou on 6/30/2000 at 6:18:52 AM
I have a 1968 vintage Robin Hood ladies, 3 speed color black, no rust, fine condition, and a men's Dunelt, 3 speed, color black, no rust, fine condition.
I local bike restorer seems interested in taking them off my hands. How much are they worth?







AGE / VALUE:   Cycleworks brand? posted by: ChristopherRobin on 6/29/2000 at 5:43:51 PM
Another name I have never heard of before or seen is a ladies 3 speed with diffrent size tubes is a Cycleworks bicycle fron Tysley England. A nice bike with 24 t.p.i. threaded headset and bottom bracket.It is a smooth handling bike.







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Crank Design/Chain problem posted by: Warren on 6/28/2000 at 7:14:51 PM
I bought a Raleigh "Trent Tourist" at Goodwill for 7 bucks. It looks like a DL-1 frame but it's a single speed coaster brake model with vertical dropouts. Anyone seen one of these? The odd thing is the crank...The "heron" design usually splits the crank ring into three sections. The space between these sections is further divided by two fingers of steel. Is this unusual or have I been sleeping?

My other problem relates to my early 50's Hercules chain that doesn't appear to have a master link. Can I use a regular chain tool on the rivets and still hope to get it back together again.I need this chain beacause the bike has a three cog freewheel that I will never be able to replace and it's likely to "skip" if I put a new chain on it.Anyone encounter this before?


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Crank Design/Chain problem posted by Jason on 6/29/2000 at 8:45:24 AM
I need to get to goodwill more often...

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Crank Design/Chain problem posted by Fred on 6/29/2000 at 9:28:36 AM
If your chain is the same as used on most English bikes there should be no problem with breaking it,(taking it apart). Very few chains use master links these days. Racers especially need endless chains. I use a Park mini chain breaker and have used it hard on a lot of chains. I Haven't met a chain that I couldn't break yet. Note: A good chain breaker if used correctly will not fully remove the pin when you break the chain. The pin will still be in the link plate opposite the breaker. In addition, the tool will also drive the pin into proper position and no more, however, you have to free the link after you are done by bending the chain side to side, (I don't use this method although a lot of people do), or using the breaker to push the pin back a few thousanths of an inch. I have a tech tip on chain breaking in my website.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Crank Design/Chain problem posted by ChristopherRobin on 6/29/2000 at 10:21:41 AM
Because I have so many pictures of Raleigh models I know this particular bike.
The "two legs" between the heron on the crank is normal and seen often it is a earlier patern as the two legs were later sheared off leaving this space open.The cranks like everything else went through some changes, downgrades, alterations until the Raleigh is just a shadow of what it was 50 years ago.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Crank Design/Chain problem posted by Jeff on 6/29/2000 at 11:29:05 AM
ChristopherRobin, any chance of getting some of your oddball Brit pictures into VVVintage's picture database so we can all enjoy them (as I see you've contributed the great exploded diagrams)?

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Crank Design/Chain problem posted by ChristopherRobin on 6/29/2000 at 5:43:18 PM
I am working on it.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Crank Design/Chain problem posted by Michael on 6/30/2000 at 4:27:21 AM
Warren
You may be able to replace the cogs on your 3 cog freewheel. The cogs usually screw on individually. You need a couple of chain whips to get them off, and maybe some other tools. This used to be a standard bike shop service.
In the UK, Highpath Engineering do just about anything possible with transmission, and supply custom built freewheels. You could probably find a more established US bikeshop/workshop who still remember how to do the job.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   a list posted by: Deb on 6/27/2000 at 4:36:44 AM
I'm trying to come up with a list of bikes that make up these 'English roadsters'--many obvious -- Raleigh, Rudge, Humber, Phillips, Halford? . . . .Robin Hood? . . . .what else? Did they all make rod-braked versions ?

Thanks for the help,
Deb


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   a list posted by chuck fred on 6/27/2000 at 5:01:51 AM
Dunelt, Hercules, BSA, Humber too. It is probably correct that "they all made rod-braked versions."

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   a list posted by Keith on 6/27/2000 at 9:48:55 AM
This topic has come up a couple of times before, and each time the list get longer. The amazing thing is, as Christopher Robin notes, we're always running into brands that we haven't seen before. Keep in mind that, according to Sheldon Brown (whose word is the gospel in these matters), Raleigh would make bikes with any brand you wanted if you ordered a certain quantity. With that I'll add Sunbeam, Triumph, F.H.R. Grubb, Baines, Thanet, Moulton, and so on(not all of these made traditional "roadsters").

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   a list posted by Jeff on 6/29/2000 at 11:35:13 AM
I just used the 'search' tool to check the roadster archives (I used the 2nd search method on the page, not the first) and got these names from a past discussion of this:

ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know? posted by: Wes K on
10/23/99 at 5:29:34 PM
I thought this might be a good jog of everyone's memories, and introduce
something less nuts and bolts orientated.
So, here goes!
There's Raleigh, Rudge, Phillips, Hercules, BSA, Standard K, Royal Scott,
Royal York,
Humber, Dunelt, Robin Hood, and London Flyer.


Replies:
RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by
Fred on 10/23/99 at 8:20:27 PM
Add Triumph to your list.


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by phil
on 10/23/99 at 8:56:05 PM
And, Norman of Ashford.


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by
Mark R on 10/24/99 at 6:22:27 AM
Royal Sabre, Holdsworth.


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by
JOH N HAYDEN on 10/24/99 at 8:46:52 AM
I have a 1930's vintage Rudge Whittworth upright bicycle in very original
condition frame number A689464 28"x1.5" wheels can anyone help with model
and exact date etc , am trying to find out all I can about this old family airloom.
If not perhaps you knpw someone who can I can supply digital photos.

Thanks
John Hayden


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by
JOH N HAYDEN on 10/24/99 at 9:12:21 AM
I have a 1930's vintage Rudge Whittworth upright bicycle in very original
condition frame number A689464 28"x1.5" wheels can anyone help with model
and exact date etc , am trying to find out all I can about this old family airloom.
If not perhaps you knpw someone who can I can supply digital photos.

Thanks
John Hayden


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by
Keith on 10/25/99 at 10:43:33 AM
Okay, I'm headed into road and other bikes, but MERICAN (my personal
favorite), Bob Jackson, Witcomb (used to be) and Alex Moulton. Has anyone
mentioned Sunbeam yet? I know Clarence has at least one, and I'm insanely
jealous.


RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted
by PW on 10/25/99 at 11:31:34 AM
Indian Princess.
AMF ha!


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by UK
Pete. on 10/25/99 at 1:04:02 PM
Don't forget Claud Butler, Falcon, Carlton, Coventry Eagle, Dawes, Bates,
James, Elswick, Pashley, Brompton, Sun, Rover, Royal Enfield, Singer and
New Hudson!


RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted
by Bill on 10/25/99 at 8:46:53 PM
A friend has a "Meteor", an obvious Raleigh/Nottingham 3 speed similar to a
Dunelt.


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by
Randy on 10/25/99 at 11:48:56 PM
And Dursley-Pedersen! With Mikael's own quirky 3-speed hub. Was it a
roadster? It was cutting-edge bicycle technology for its time.


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by
Keith on 10/26/99 at 5:56:00 AM
and Baines. I'd love to have a new Pedersen!


RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted
by Randy on 10/26/99 at 9:22:02 AM
I'd love to have an *old* one! But, economics being what they are, I'm building my
own "faux Pedersen". Actually, that sounds like a good name for the
headbadge--Faux-Pedersen. :-) I've put a small page about it on my site.


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by
Morgan Groves on 10/26/99 at 9:22:25 AM
Pennine and Harry Quinn.


RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted by
Chris S on 11/12/99 at 1:46:55 PM
Drake! or did someone get that?


RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: How many English headbadge names do you know?posted
by Stewart on 11/14/99 at 5:34:54 PM
Add Mercury, and Coventry Eagle. I've acquired one of each, and am looking for
information on decals, history, etc. Can you help?








AGE / VALUE:    posted by: Mark R. on 6/26/2000 at 5:02:53 PM
Hey! I want to re-itterate that I have a Forever roadster in very good condition with some improvements that I want to sell. I have most of the bits neccessary to turn it into a three speed: trigger, hub, little cable guide wheel, etc...I will sell it to one of our lot here for a very good price( I paid $185 including shipping, but will sell for WAY less, but only to one of us here!)Has Raleigh peddals, stiffer saddle springs, a lamp etc......Please e-mail if you are interested. It is a nice bike, but yeah, it's a Forever. I have had no major problems with this mount. I had a Roadmaster made in India, and BOY! This Forever is WAY better regardless to words of the contrary we have seen here in the past. Thanks, Mark







AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Mountain Scout posted by: ChristopherRobin on 6/26/2000 at 1:18:44 PM
I finally found a shop that had a decent 24 inch wheel kids bike on the shop floor and not in the catalog book!This is a Raleigh Mountain Scout. They had ran out of these for the year and I did not want to wait until August for the new line to come in. The Raleigh Mountain Scout is a NEW bike for kids and I like it. It has 24 inch wheels, 21 speeds, a deraileur guard, and it comes in blue and yellow. We opted for the sharp looking yellow one so he can be seen. It stands out and that is great safety wise. Plus it has the modern brakes so he can stop on a dime. To buy anything other than a Raleigh is unthinkable. I hope he eventually will like this Mk 2 Raleigh Chopper I am getting ready.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Mountain Scout posted by sam on 6/27/2000 at 6:10:06 PM
Christoper Robin,I read your post yesterday and was going to enter a reply- but something must have gotten in my eyes because they watered so badly I could not type.So I got out an old bike I bough because it reminded me of someone who cared a lot about me,and went for a ride.Now I can't say what go on in a little ones mind,but some day he may pass a yard sale and stop to buy an old yellow bike for no good reason.But I can tell you it will not be the bike he misses the most.So ride offten---sam