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Archived: English Roadsters







AGE / VALUE:   sturmey-archer S-5 posted by: racerrex on 8/6/2000 at 8:29:25 AM
Sturmey-Archer hub for sale. Dated 9-68, S-5 five speed hub appears to be NOS. I don't have the shift levers or cables, but this is a very nice piece. I also have some NOS Schwinn sturmey cables for sale, I'm not sure which models they fit but I'll try to cross them. post or e-mail with needs or offers.







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   restoration/parts/weird cables posted by: dan nephin on 8/5/2000 at 7:35:37 PM
i'm new to this english bike thing, but I just came across a 1960 (well, the s/a hub is, anyway) reddish Robin Hood men's bike three speed. It had some surface rust on the chrome and gunky grime, so i decided to take it apart to clean it. Looks pretty good and shifts well (at least till i took it apart - haven't put it together agains) I have several main concerns: 1. where can i get 1-3/8ths tires and tubes (I haven't checked local bike store - i'm just assuming they won't have them 'cause they're old and english) 2. The front brake is fine, but some crazy cable stretching must have happened on the rear, because the calipers are wide open. Maybe I'm just thick, but no matter what, I can't adjust out the slack. Complicating this, of course, is the fact that the cable has soldered do-dads at each end. I saw another reference to this on the 'net, saying in effect, good luch finding cables. Can anyone tell me what I can do? 3)my understanding is robin hood is a mid-level Raleigh brand, but that 1960 is probably a good year. Sure, they're probably not collected, but what might a price be? 4)are there parts for these bikes: i already mentioned the need for tires/tubes and if at all possible, cables, or a jerry-rigged solution. i could also use a spoke or two. the saddle could soon be replaced and a pump for the pegs would be nice. i live in harrisburg, pa. email is a good way to get to me. oh, what about wd-40 for lube?


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   restoration/parts/weird cables posted by Norman F. Birnberg on 8/5/2000 at 8:10:51 PM
Hi Dan,
Your Robin Hood was a mid level Raleigh Industries brand Sports bicycle.

You can obtain from Sheldon Brown at Harris Cyclery (http://harriscyclery.com) in Boston, Mass three speed parts to keep your Robin Hood up and running. The cables with the soldered ends are older Raleigh cables that used to come in a "gents" and "ladies" version and when they were available, one just switched over and replaced the whole assembly with a set of new cables with the soldered ends. They just don't happen to be available anymore so replacements for them are out of the question.

Thanks to Sheldon though you have two good options: he'll
sell you bolt-on cable ends that will work with the brakes
on your Robin Hood and allow you to use standard mountain
bike cables with them or you can have the bike converted
to either 700C or 26" wheels and tires and drum brakes.

So don't despair, your Robin Hood is still quite rideable
and with the right parts it will give you many years of
riding pleasure yet!

Norman "I Can Heartily Recommend Sheldon Brown" Birnberg

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   restoration/parts/weird cables posted by Fred on 8/6/2000 at 7:47:58 AM
26 x 1 3/8 tires are available even in Walmart etc. For cables try Ernie at Bikes on Boundary,(see his website here on Oldroads). I just bought a set from him. Do not use WD 40 in your hub. Use a good light oil e.g., sewing machine oil. I personally use good motor oil. Use a good bearing grease on the bearings and freewheel area though. Take your time and peruse the archives here. All your questions have been answered in the past.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   restoration/parts/weird cables posted by VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 8/8/2000 at 6:06:02 AM
We have those cables in stock - original Sturmey Archer English 3-speed brake and shifting cables. Click on "Bikes and Parts for Sale" at the top of this page for pictures and more information.

-Vin






FOR SALE:   1950s Claud Butler posted by: Karen on 8/5/2000 at 11:03:00 AM
I have a 1940s-1950s Claud Butler, not quite sure of the year but I am thinking maybe 1948 as it has olympic decals it is fully British Made.

It has a Reynolds 531 tubing frame & forks which are excellent condition with all original decals. It has G.B. side pull quick release brakes, Simplex 4 SPEED gears, Bluemel's club special tourer mudguards, G.B. drop alloy handlebars and a Brooks B15 original leather seat.


I have stripped it all down it is beautifully preserved! I have photos available if anyone would like to see.

Any information about the bike or if anyone maybe interested in the parts or cycle.

Many thanks, regards from Nottingham, UK.


   RE:FOR SALE:   1950s Claud Butler posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 8/5/2000 at 1:54:45 PM
Please e-mail me at http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com

   RE:FOR SALE:   1950s Claud Butler posted by Fred on 8/6/2000 at 7:55:39 AM
If I read your posting correctly you would sell the bike or parts separatly. If the bike is as good as you say, why would you part it out? Lets save all this good stuff intact.

   RE:FOR SALE:   1950s Claud Butler posted by karen on 8/6/2000 at 9:45:23 AM
I and my husband aquired the bicycle from late grandfather, we have stripped it down to clean it. We did not realise it was in such good condition, until we cleaned the surface dirt off it gleamed underneath. It had been stored in bed sheets in the loft of the house for at least 40 years we think. We need to purchase new tyres and tubes, (27x1 1/4) and handlebar stem that is about it.

The wheels have cleaned up very nice, they are Dunlop Special Lightweights.

We may look to sell complete bicycle when all done, we were not sure if anyone would have been interested in the bike or if they thought the parts would be more worthwhile. We cannot seem to find any further info on the bike on the web.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   1950s Claud Butler posted by Peter Hällström on 8/6/2000 at 10:50:07 AM
Have you tried this page: http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/claud_butler_main.htm

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   1950s Claud Butler posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/6/2000 at 10:52:05 AM
Since this was discovered in bed sheets you might say that it was put to sleep 40 years ago and you woke it up! This is too nice to be parted out for bits. People are looking to buy these intact.You have something here, be careful.

   RE:FOR SALE:   1950s Claud Butler posted by Karen on 8/7/2000 at 7:45:19 AM
I have just put a few pics on net of the cycle more to follow hopefully tomorrow if any one interested.

http://www.andnick.freeserve.co.uk

Many thanks for the help and adice on this.
Regards Karen, Nottingham, England

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   1950s Claud Butler posted by http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 8/7/2000 at 9:33:47 AM
Very nice, thanks for letting us see it!






AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Wayfarer Flyer posted by: Amber Smith on 8/5/2000 at 9:37:05 AM
Hi out there!
I've been offered a women's English made Raleigh Wayfarer Flyer. 1 speed, coaster brake, black frame, fenders, chrome bars. Little rust (mostly on the rims, but tiny amount), Western Flyer tires. I'm just wondering if anyone out there knows about this bike - when it may have been produced and/or how much it may be worth. I know next to nothing about vintage bikes (or even if this *is* one), and would be interested to know if this is a bike I should acquire.

Thanks!

Amber







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1950s Claud Butler Racer/Tourer posted by: Karen on 8/5/2000 at 9:09:53 AM
I have a 1940s-1950s Claud Butler, not quite sure of the year but I am thinking maybe 1948 as it has olympic decals it is fully British Made.

It has a Reynolds 531 tubing frame & forks which are excellent condition with all original decals. It has G.B. side pull quick release brakes, Simplex 4 SPEED gears, Bluemel's club special tourer mudguards, G.B. drop alloy handlebars and a Brooks B15 original leather seat.


I have stripped it all down it is beautifully preserved! I have photos available if anyone would like to see.

Any information about the bike or if anyone maybe interested in the parts or cycle.

Many thanks, regards from Nottingham, UK.







AGE / VALUE:   Super nice women's DL-1 on Ebay posted by: Kevin C. on 8/4/2000 at 8:29:22 PM
Check out Ebay 400065582. Black beauty with rod brakes.







FOR SALE:   Rudge, Dunelt,Hercules,Raleigh Superbe,Puch posted by: Jim on 8/4/2000 at 11:52:33 AM
See the General For Sale area (with today's date) for the details on the bikes listed above. All are in excellent working order & I'm open to reasonable negotiation.


   RE:FOR SALE:   Rudge, Dunelt,Hercules,Raleigh Superbe,Puch posted by Warren on 8/4/2000 at 5:58:11 PM
I'm confused Jim..where is "General for Sale". Call me simple...everyone else has.






MISC:   20 inch folder posted by: WIngs on 8/4/2000 at 12:33:22 AM
I found a nice Raleigh folder with 20 inch wheels today.
That made my day!!!!
Next to it was a bike I did not purchase. I know it was made by Raleigh. It had a huge winged head badge that said "OSCO" or something similar to that. It had a 3 speed hub, Raleigh fork and fenders + reflector. Can you give me information about this bike?


   RE:MISC:   20 inch folder posted by Wings on 8/5/2000 at 12:14:33 AM
Not "OSCO"
IT IS AN "ORCO". Do you know anything about it?






AGE / VALUE:   Check it out posted by: ChristopherRobin on 8/3/2000 at 5:49:37 PM
3 speed Hercules parts bike on E-bay. Not mine but this has an 28 inch enclosed chaincase in good shape, a cool bracket and rod brake parts a ladies frame. Nice!







AGE / VALUE:   I keep meeting people who have done this and think it's ok! posted by: ChristopherRobin on 8/3/2000 at 9:55:21 AM
I bit my tongue as this fellow on the phone told me " Sometimes you have to spray paint the bike's wheels silver when you want to keep a bike running. He painted this nice folding bikes wheels with silver paint! I did not say a word, I just got it away from him quietly.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   I keep meeting people who have done this and think it's ok! posted by Sheldon Brown on 8/4/2000 at 6:41:08 PM
I recall seeing a news item on the local tv news a few years back, how the local transit authority was finally catching up on long deferred maintenance of the rolling stock. The reporter glowingly reported on how, amongh other nifty things, they were using nice fresh aluminum paint to cover "the dirty old stainless steel" sides of the rail cars...

   Oh No, Not on the nice train car!! No, No No. posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/5/2000 at 2:02:55 PM
Thanks for letting me(us) know this.I think I am going to have an anurisim.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   I keep meeting people who have done this and think it's ok! posted by Wings on 8/7/2000 at 3:38:55 AM
I think it is ok as long as you use Stainless Paint!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   I keep meeting people who have done this and think it's ok! posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/8/2000 at 9:35:35 AM
The Volkswagon Passat commercial where the guy is washing this car that does not belong to him has give me an idea. Where was this train yard? I have to go on a mission.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   90 psi Kenda tires? posted by: Clyde on 8/2/2000 at 8:17:39 PM
Hey guys, I figured I'd found a great way to speed up a 26x1-3/8 Raleigh Sports bike. I picked up a couple of blackwall Kenda tires that are labeled "maximum recommended inflation pressure 90 PSI". Could this the tire to slap on an alloy rim for speed OR is it a misprint? Virtually every other similar tire and other Kendas are rated between 55 and 65 psi. Just today I blew a 55 psi Kenda by running it at 60. Anyone else seen blackwalls rated at 90? I've got a Trek skinwall 26 x 1-3/8 that is only rated to 65.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   90 psi Kenda tires? posted by Wings on 8/2/2000 at 10:49:11 PM
I have used the 90 pound Kenda tires, size 27x 1 and 1/4. I have put lots of them on bikes and I have used them with no problems. I usually keep them at 60 - 70 but have had them higher.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   90 psi Kenda tires? posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/3/2000 at 8:46:57 AM
I would pick up an extra set of these. Have fun and be safe






FOR SALE:   Classic 40s/50s Brit Track Iron posted by: Keith on 8/2/2000 at 10:33:10 AM
Raleigh -- 396 866 972; BSA 390 017 898 Both have wooden rims, the Raleigh is probably the one Seth refers to below (w/some Paramount parts). Go pay your respects to this classic British track iron before it's gone. Or better yet, get your minds off Sturmey for a while and buy one for your collection (neither are mine).







AGE / VALUE:   For sale: Avon solid rubber tire(tyre) 26 X 1 3/4 posted by: ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 8/2/2000 at 9:27:20 AM
Who needs one of these? I have one AVON 26 X 1 3/4 tyre solid rubber(black) says made in England in great usuable condition. This has a cool pattern of holes on the side. 75.00 plus shipping e- mail me at http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com and complete that restoration project because It is useless to me, I just freed the thing.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   For sale: Avon solid rubber tire(tyre) 26 X 1 3/4 posted by red on 8/2/2000 at 10:49:59 PM
Who needs two of these?
Or at least one big one (mentioned above), and one small one (I believe 20x1&3/4). If someone is looking to build a unique chopper, then this may be the way to do it. Judging ChristopherRobin's description, I have access to the same brand/style of tire, only smaller. I will try to get a picture to send to Christopher Robin and/or a buyer by next week.

   Bring some rice posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/3/2000 at 5:02:19 PM
Well if I am going to marry a bicycle tire, I guess this is as good as any other. I put this with all the other oddball tires of yesteryear that I keep, and keep and keep.

   RE:Bring some rice posted by Wings on 8/5/2000 at 12:18:12 AM
You need to look real hard for another one so you will have a pair!!!! :)






WANTED:   info posted by: jack on 8/2/2000 at 8:13:48 AM
i need info on a Austro-daimler bike i think everything is orignal the bike's name is pacifica please help me thanks


   RE:WANTED:   info posted by Tom Faust on 8/2/2000 at 9:15:57 PM
Go to Cycles D'oro website, Classic Rondezvous section. There are some pictures (look under Austrian bikes). I have a Vent Noir, all black with gold trim. Sound familiar? I bought it recently, it has been in the box for 25 years. I haven't even assmbled it yet.






AGE / VALUE:   Brooks Saddle Restoration posted by: Paul R. on 8/1/2000 at 5:47:29 PM
I wanted to put in a plug for Tony Colgrave in England who rebuilds older Brooks saddles. I just received my 1951 Brooks Champion B17N which he restored with a new leather top and it is outstanding! He has the correct stamping tools for many of the earlier Brooks saddles which are different from the current ones. The cost is comparable to a new saddle but a bit more period looking if that is what you are after.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Brooks Saddle Restoration posted by Kevin C. on 8/1/2000 at 7:03:01 PM
How can he be contacted?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Brooks Saddle Restoration posted by Paul R. on 8/3/2000 at 5:53:10 PM
You can reach him at: A. Colgrave Wellhouse, Northian Rye, East Sussex, TN31 6HY, England. I don't know if he is online.