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Archived: English Roadsters







FOR SALE:   Churchill De Luxe Childs Rodbrake posted by: Bikeyard on 9/11/2000 at 3:38:39 AM
Interesting Churchill De Luxe small childs rodbrake on ebay. I also have two NOS Sturmey Archer 32 hole rims,raised center, on there as well. These are for your dyno hub.







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   looking for information on this bike posted by: Joan on 9/9/2000 at 5:11:49 AM
I was given this cute older bike that I am trying to get more information on. It is a woman's bike. The chain guard says Hercules and on the front of the bike is a decal that has a big H and then below it says Nottingham England. It is mostly blue with a blue and white seat and the rear fender has some white with a rear reflector. No speeds just coaster brakes.
It's in really good condition, has a big white wire basket and a metal thing on the back fender to hold items that says spitfire. Any leads would be appreciated


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   looking for information on this bike posted by http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 9/9/2000 at 8:30:46 AM
Hercules was a brand that was taken over by Raleigh Industries of Nottingham, England. This is a "city bike" a nice commuter bicycle. worth up to perhaps $75.00 Tires and tibes are available at the local bike shop(post a message here if you have trouble finding anything you need) these tires are 26 X 1 3/8 EA3 BRITISH parts are Raleigh made and are hard to find but we can help out here so you are ok. The rack is something I have never heard of but is of the time period and is likely origonal. A rear rack is a plus. nice bike, congratulations.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   looking for information on this bike posted by http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 9/9/2000 at 8:31:35 AM
Hercules was a brand that was taken over by Raleigh Industries of Nottingham, England. This is a "city bike" a nice commuter bicycle. worth up to perhaps $75.00 Tires and tibes are available at the local bike shop(post a message here if you have trouble finding anything you need) these tires are 26 X 1 3/8 EA3 BRITISH parts are Raleigh made and are hard to find but we can help out here so you are ok. The rack is something I have never heard of but is of the time period and is likely origonal. A rear rack is a plus. nice bike, congratulations. This is probably a 1960's era bicycle

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   looking for information on this bike posted by Joan on 9/10/2000 at 7:06:14 AM
Thank you very much for that information. One more question that I have regarding this bike concerns the brakes. The back brakes don't work easily - you really have to stand and apply pressure to stop. Are those difficult to have fixed or to fix myself? Thanks again

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   looking for information on this bike posted by ChristopherRobin on 9/10/2000 at 11:12:24 AM
I would try the local bike shop and see if they have a replacement wheel with a new coaster brake hub in it. Simply switch the wheels. Maybe someone here has a wheel they can sell you?

   Cheap bicycle parts posted by Grant on 9/11/2000 at 7:34:54 PM
Your local thrift store, Goodwill or recycling store is an
excellent source of good used parts. Today I bought 2 Raleigh
built 3 speed ladies' models for $1 apiece. Both need repair
but beteween the 2 there are enough good parts to make one real
nice bike, good tires good paint good chrome and all.

They get bikes with parts missing and damaged all the time and
they cannot spend the money on repairs. You should be able to
find a good rear wheel possibly with a good tire for peanuts.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Sturmey Archer Threaded Drivers posted by: Fran on 9/8/2000 at 6:46:18 PM
Does anyone know if Sturmey made more than one size of treaded driver? I have a Raleigh Clubman with a 3-speed AW with a threaded driver. When I tried to replace the sprocket (14 tooth) with a triple sprocket my LBS (Via Bicycle in Philly, great shop) found that the threaded driver diameter was much smaller than the triple sprocket diameter. At least a couple of the guys at Via are convinced that SA made a smaller diameter threaded driver for the small sprockets used on the "enthusiast" or club rider type bikes. Sheldon Brown told me that he recalls his old Elswick Tour Anglais using a double-threaded adapter bushing to attach the triple sprocket to the driver. If this is true I'm assuming that I'll need to either have a adapter made or change out my small driver for a "normal" sized threaded driver (or switch to a splined driver but then I'd need a splined triple sprocket). So back to the original question does anyone know if Sturmey made 2 sizes of threaded driver. And any suggestions as to a solution to my problem?
Thanks!


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Sturmey Archer Threaded Drivers posted by Paul A. (Melb.) on 9/9/2000 at 5:53:56 AM
Yes, I believe Sturmey-Archer did make a smaller driver, and
I think there may have been a chap in the U.K. who also
supplied a threaded driver as an after-market accessory.
I do have one such threaded driver in my spares box, just
waiting for a suitable project. I believe that the smaller
driver was intended primarily for the early Moulton bicycles, so that they could run sprockets as low as 12, 13,
or 14 teeth without having the sideplates of the chain
riding on the shoulder of the driver. Of course one could
also screw on a three speed cluster. The smaller sprockets
helped to gear up the machine {they were equipped with
16 inch wheels) without the expense of a larger chainring.
The standard three-speed cluster used over here was, I think, a wide ratio item. It is the narrower range item
which is really sought after.
There was a bicycle engineer in California named Ernest
Rogers who put out a suitable driver for S.A. hubs. This
would take five Regina sprockets, 5/32" .One then had to
fit a longer axle, 6 5/16".Info.from the book 'The Moulton
Bicycle', by Tony Hadland. Cheers.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Sturmey Archer Threaded Drivers posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 9/9/2000 at 8:37:37 AM
Please e- mail me http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Indian Bicycle posted by: hjfl on 9/7/2000 at 5:37:57 PM
Anyone know the story on the british built 3 speed Indian Bicycles . I understand they were built by Phillips and looking at mine that seems likely. Mine certainly has some wrong parts and I am looking for a pic on the web for comparison. Were these bikes sold after Indian went out of business? Although mine has some wrong parts the paint, decals, and badge are nice. My rear hub is dated 63 so I am assuming that is wrong , the rims are Dunlop. A picture sure would get me headed in the right direction on this. thank you hjfl


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Indian Bicycle posted by jeff on 9/10/2000 at 4:39:37 PM
I have a 1952 Indian Scout that was given to me for my birthday when I was a kid. I still ride it almost every day. Mine has an FW 4-Speed Hub. The bikes were made by Phillips for Indian Motocycle. Mine was purchased at the Indian Factory in Springfield, Massachusetts. The Scout had 26" Dunlop wheels. The Chief had 28" wheels and there was a 24" wheel bike called a Brave. There was also a 26" ladie's bike called the Princes. They started making these bikes in the late 40's before Indian went out of business. Royal Enfield Motorcycle in England took over the Indian name and sold motorcycles and bicycles here in the states in to the 60's. If you would like me to e-mail you a picture of my Indian Scout, please let me know!

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Indian Bicycle posted by Grant Lubben on 9/10/2000 at 8:55:27 PM
Indian was bought up by a mysterious English company called Brockhouse
in about 1950. They were buying up a lot of motorcycle companies at the time.
They were responsible for closing the Indian factory and selling English
Royal Enfield, Matchless and AJS motorcycles
in their place. I don't know for sure but if Philips was also a Brockhouse company
it would not surprise me a bit. Philips was taken over by Raleigh in 1962.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Indian Bicycle posted by hjfl on 9/11/2000 at 2:43:13 PM
Thanks to Grant and Jeff for their replies. I am starting to clean this bike up but will leave it basically as it is except for changing incorrect parts.






AGE / VALUE:   Junior Raleigh/ Forever roadster posted by: Mark R. on 9/7/2000 at 3:24:47 PM
Hello gang! I haven't been around for a while, but I'm back for the time being. I have two problems: #1 I have a 24" wheel, Raleigh space rider for my daughter, however I'm having trouble getting the 3 speed hub, coaster brake to function properly. Does the S/A 3 sp. with coaster brake have a different adjusting rod, and or different setting point? The thing will shift when adjusted in the wrong spot, but the brake won't work in third gear (verry dangerous) when it's adjusted properly: I.E. when the flat on the rod is flush with the axle end. I'm perplexed. Is it a lubrication problem??? Answers wanted, and thanks in advance.
#2, I still have my Forever roadster for sale, and I really need to move it along. I lost the e-mails from the chap who was interested, (he needed to sell his truck first), but I'm afraid I'm gonna have to go to eBay or something pretty soon. If anyone is interested I will do my absolute best to make you happy. I will throw in most of the stuff needed to make it a three speed as well: 40 hole S/A hub, trigger, cable(if I can find it), pully wheel, etc....I'm interested in cameras and photography , so I'd maybe be willing to trade too! Any takers please get in touch! I can send an eMail picture of the bike any time. Oh! I also have spare bars for it. Any help would be very much apreciated. Thanks all!!! Marko


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Junior Raleigh/ Forever roadster posted by Bill Putnam on 9/8/2000 at 12:10:28 PM
If your coaster brake 3 speed is an older TCW model, if
the gear shift cable is not adjusted properly, the brake
can cease to function. I am always cautious with adjusting
the shift cable with the indicator rod (2nd gear selected
the rod flat should be flush with the end of the axle) since
depending on axle length, which there are several available,
different length rods are required. What can happen is an
incorrect length replacement indicator rod is installed and
then the standard method for adjusting the hub does not work.
I always adjust the hub so that when 1st gear is selected,
the indicator chain is at the extent of it's travel. That is
if you tug lightly on the cable, the chain and rod do not
come out of the hub any further. The cable should be just
tight enough to do this but no more. You might try this
adjustment and then see if the brake works.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Junior Raleigh/ Forever roadster posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 9/9/2000 at 8:55:18 AM
I would try to scare up another wheel or another hub and have it laced into the wheel that you do have.

   Forever roadster posted by Scott Lininger on 9/10/2000 at 10:17:53 AM
Yes I am interested in your Forever Bicycle, please send an Email photo and your asking price.

Thanks,

Scott Lininger
lininger@hotmail.com

   RE:Forever roadster posted by Mark on 9/19/2000 at 2:40:10 PM
Hey! I'm still here and nobody wants an 86 mitsu p/u. Now I'm waiting for the Christmas bonus. I still have your e-mails and pictures.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   WANTED: Triple Sproket for S-A Three Speed posted by: Fran on 9/6/2000 at 7:36:07 PM
I'm looking for a fixed triple sprocket cluster to screw onto my 3 Speed Sturmey-Archer AW hub which has a threaded driver. I'm trying to convert my 1950's Raleigh Clubman to a 9-speed -- sort of like the old Cyclo-Benelux conversions.
Any source appreciated Thanks in advance.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   WANTED: Triple Sproket for S-A Three Speed posted by Fran on 9/8/2000 at 6:44:49 PM
Note to the nice fellow who e-mailed me regarding his Clubman: I'm sorry but I accidentally erased your e-mail, I'd apprecate it if you'd resend it. Thanks.

Also, I've discovered I may need a standard sized driver instead of a different sproket. Please see my new post above.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The Colour Green posted by: Richard on 9/6/2000 at 2:25:53 PM
I'm going to strip the old green paint from my 1955 4 speed Raleigh, but I don't know what type & colour paint I'm going to need, can any one help?







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bicycle Swap Meet, Sept, 10, 2000 Boston, MA posted by: joe on 9/6/2000 at 1:36:36 PM
Swap meet Sullivan Square our 9th Year. Directions Interstate 93 North or South 1 mile North of Downtown Boston, Sullivan Square exit around the rotary Under the Bridge. Please email me for more information. Thank you


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bicycle Swap Meet, Sept, 10, 2000 Boston, MA posted by Tom Faust on 9/7/2000 at 8:08:06 AM
What tim does it start?






AGE / VALUE:   ladies Raliegh bicycle posted by: Dwain Wood on 9/5/2000 at 6:26:41 PM
I recently bought a ladies Raliegh bicycle.I would like to find out when it was made and an approx. value. The following are possible identifying features. The seat is leather and says Brooks. Under the seat on the frame is the number 055754. On the front brake caliper is Pat. No. 727086. The rear hub says England Sturmey Archer 3 Speed AW with no date. The kick stand says Wald Patd. 2018531. The pedals say Made in Germany. The tires say SEMPERIT Made in Austria and they have Raleigh Roadster on them. There are 32 spokes on front wheel and 40 on rear. The bike is black except the tail of rear fender is white with white rubber reflector with the reflector missing. The tire pump says Made in England. It has Raleigh emblems all over it. The handle grips say Reg. Design No. 881457. The shifter is on the right handlebar and says Sturmey Archer England. If you can help me I would appreciate it.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ladies Raliegh bicycle posted by Pete on 9/6/2000 at 4:58:53 AM
Have another look at the Sturmey Archer hub. The date format is YY M , where YY are the last two digits of the year of manufacture, and Y is the month. I.E. 73 8 would be August 1973.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   ladies Raliegh bicycle posted by Dwain Wood on 9/6/2000 at 4:47:30 PM
I looked at the Sturmey Archer hub again and it appears to have a number on the left side of the triangle with the AW in it. I thought it was a scratch but it does appear to be a stamped number. The number is sideways to the rest of the print with the top of the number pointed toward the AW. There is definitely only one number there and it is a number 1. There is no other scratch or number on the hub. Please reply if you can help. Thanks!

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   ladies Raliegh bicycle posted by Dwain Wood on 9/7/2000 at 6:44:21 PM
I cleaned the hub completely and there is no number on the hub unless that is a number 1 on the left side of the AW triangle. I really think it is a scratch. Can anyone help me date this bike? Thanks in advance! Please reply.






AGE / VALUE:   oldlady's schwinn 27" posted by: Rickey on 9/5/2000 at 12:32:12 PM
it's a yellow 5 speed s# LJ576608 collegiate in a restorable condition how old is it what's it worth.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   oldlady's schwinn 27 posted by karl on 9/7/2000 at 12:44:59 PM
1973. These are very, very common and rarely worth more than five bucks or so.

Schwinn made millions of Varsities and Continentals in the early '70s. There are still millions of them around...

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   oldlady's schwinn 27 posted by Karl on 9/7/2000 at 12:46:18 PM
Lots and lots of Collegiates too...

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   oldlady's schwinn 27 posted by rickey on 9/8/2000 at 7:04:10 AM
thanks mr.Karl






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Carlton criterium posted by: ross on 9/5/2000 at 6:09:54 AM
I have just acquired a carlton criterium bicycle. anyone heard of it? Its got 700c tyres front and rear-not original i think but original weinmann/raleigh centre pull brakes and suntour vx rear mech with 6 speed cogs. the frames a bit tatty looking but if its a good bike i'd do it up


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Carlton criterium posted by Keith on 9/7/2000 at 6:01:17 AM
Theres some information about Carlton in the English bikes portion of the Cycles de Oro sire (www.cyclesdeoro.com). Basically Carlton was a family owned manufacturer until 1960 or 1961, when Raleigh bought them. Raleigh then shifted production of it's top-end models to the Carlton Worksop shop. But Carlton brand bikes continued to be sold into the 70s. Yours sounds like it has a strange mix of components -- upgrades, add-ons, replacements, so it's difficult to tell age or value. Does it have chromed stays? What kind of dropouts does it have? Plain or branded, and if branded, what brand?

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Carlton criterium posted by ross on 9/11/2000 at 8:50:37 AM
its got plain drop outs and painted stays. the W000 frame number suggests 1980 or 1970? built at worksop. i've a feeling that this is a cheap bike sold with the cartlon name by raleigh. the frame is seamed tubing.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Carlton criterium posted by Keith on 9/13/2000 at 8:20:24 AM
Doesn't sound too promising. I would guess that towards the end, like everyone else, Raleigh put Carlton stickers on lower end bikes, thereby trading on the good will of a once-respected name. Low-end plain steel lightweights are plentiful, so "collector" value is nil. It's not worth restoring. If it's rideable, and you like it, then by all means enjoy it!






WANTED:   info on posted by: rickey on 9/4/2000 at 10:01:52 AM
I have a 26" mens armstrong road bike I cant find any info on this it was purchased in the Late 60's new I've had it sence then just curious if it's worth anything


   RE:WANTED:   info on posted by rickey on 9/9/2000 at 12:59:05 PM
it's a 10 speed made in england






AGE / VALUE:   DUNEL-ENGLAND posted by: ELECTRIC MAN on 9/3/2000 at 9:33:34 AM
I JUST GOT A CANTILEVER FRAME WITH THE HEADTAG DUNEL ENGLAND,IT APPEARS TO BE REAL OLD LIGHTWEIGHT 26-1 3/8 TIRES DONT KNOW IF ORIGINAL SINGLE SPEED IS IT OF ANY VALUE?







AGE / VALUE:   DUNEL-ENGLAND posted by: ELECTRIC MAN on 9/3/2000 at 9:33:34 AM
I JUST GOT A CANTILEVER FRAME WITH THE HEADTAG DUNEL ENGLAND,IT APPEARS TO BE REAL OLD LIGHTWEIGHT 26-1 3/8 TIRES DONT KNOW IF ORIGINAL SINGLE SPEED IS IT OF ANY VALUE?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   DUNEL-ENGLAND posted by ChristopherRobin on 9/5/2000 at 7:17:13 AM
This is a neat one as it's a canti frame and still a lightweight bike taking the 26 X 1 3/8 wheels. You do not see to many of these, but they are out there. A bit diffrent than the standard diamond type frame. Cool! about $50-75.00 perhaps

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   DUNEL-ENGLAND posted by Paul. A. (Melb.) on 9/9/2000 at 6:14:47 AM
I've been surprised to see a number of Dunelt machines on
this list since I've neither heard nor seen any on this side
of the Pacific. I only know that back in the vintage and
veteran days they made motorcycles, including one machine, a
two-stroke,whose motor had a 'stepped' piston, apparently an attempt to get more charge into the crankcase. Cheers.






MISC:   As Always, please let us know... posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 9/2/2000 at 3:42:48 PM
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   RE:MISC:   As Always, please let us know... posted by Paul MN on 9/2/2000 at 7:32:31 PM
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   RE:RE:MISC:   As Always, please let us know... posted by JimW. on 9/5/2000 at 4:18:53 PM
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