MISC:   Great site for Brooks saddles and parts posted by: Ray on 10/15/2003 at 5:02:47 PM
I just came across this site. It is full of information and photos of Brooks saddles. You can even purchase parts or used saddles and they show how to lace up a leather saddle so the wings do not spread.
http://www.wallbike.com/index.php







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Question on frame pump posted by: Mike on 10/14/2003 at 9:34:35 PM
Does anyone know where I could find a set of the clamp-on frame pump bosses for a raleigh 3 speed. I've heard that someone out there is making these but don't know where I can find them. Thanks


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Question on frame pump posted by Dick in FL on 10/15/2003 at 1:45:26 AM
I obtained a set from a thrift store bike. If you don't have any luck, be assured that you could probably hand craft better by starting with the abundantly available frame-tube clamps for cable guides, etc. You will need to make a decision at the outset on which tube you wish to mount the pump because these tubes are rarely the same diameter. NB: The resin posts in my set have embrittled with age.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Question on frame pump posted by Jim on 10/15/2003 at 2:48:59 AM
Mike, I have set of late '60's vintage clamp on bosses. All metal (no plastic) Send me an email & I'll send a photo.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Question on frame pump posted by David on 10/15/2003 at 10:36:28 AM
If your goal is a practical pump, rather than authenticity, you'll be happier with a Zefal pump and its [included] frame mount than with the old style pump with the separate little hose.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh 3 Speed on Trail posted by: Mike on 10/13/2003 at 7:46:28 PM
Hi, I recently took my Raleigh Sport 3 speed out on the Mount Vernon trail running from Washington DC to Mount Vernon Va. I rode the portion from the Patomac to Alexandria, Va, and have found this to be a top notch trail, even if with an older bike that lacks the mechanical advantages of modern cycles. The trail is fully paved and in good condition, so anyone interested in a solid ride on an older bike (3 speed or what have you)should give this trail a try. The bumps and rattles were pretty minimal, save for a couple wooden bridges over the littler streams and coves of the river. If you're in the DC or northeastern Va area with an older cycle on hand, this is definitely a ride worth the time.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh 3 Speed on Trail posted by Ward Davis on 10/14/2003 at 12:18:09 PM
I live in southern NJ and am always looking for a good ride. How many miles is the trail round trip? Thanks.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh 3 Speed on Trail posted by Ward Davis on 10/14/2003 at 12:19:07 PM
I live in southern NJ and am always looking for a good ride. How many miles is the trail round trip? Thanks.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh 3 Speed on Trail posted by Mike on 10/14/2003 at 9:07:52 PM
The trail from Mount Vernon to Roosevelt Island (a popular route along the trail) is about 19 mi one way. From the DC/Va border (where I was riding from) closer to 20 mi one way. Riding the complete trail, especially on an older, heavier bike is a haul. I suggest breaking it up over the course of an afternoon or whole day, or else riding only a portion. Usually what I do is to set aside a set amount of time on my days off and just ride how ever far according to the time I've set aside. No matter how you do it, it's a nice trail and friendly to older, non-suspension bikes due to the fact that it's paved.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh 3 Speed on Trail posted by P.C. Kohler on 10/14/2003 at 9:34:12 PM
This is a great personal favourite.... my 1949 Rudge Super Safety loves this path! Suitable for anything on two wheels; it's not to modern day cycle path standards with too many twists and bends but still great fun and some lovely Potomac River vistas. VERY busy on the weekend so you have to play it safe.

Washington DC is a cycle paradise with other great paths including two exemplary railway lines converted to paths: the Capital Crescent Georgetown to Bethesda (9 miles o/w) and the epic Arlington to Leesburg WO&D (70 miles r/t) which I just yesterday on my '49 Clubman. Saw a '55ish Raleigh Sports and two Peugeot UO-8s en route. The WO&D is perfect club bike cycling but it's a bit long for a roadster methinks.

P.C. Kohler, who spent the three-day weekend on a B17-N!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh 3 Speed on Trail posted by David on 10/15/2003 at 10:41:14 AM
The Mt Vernon trail is not difficult on a Sports. There are only a few climbs and, barring traffic jams, you're able to cruise near top speed much of the way. It has curves and a lot of interest. Like all good routes near cities, it is too popular in nice weather!






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bike deals..or steals? posted by: Brian on 10/12/2003 at 11:52:03 AM
I feel the need to post this advice again, so here goes-
Please be on guard that some of the great bike deals we find out there are stolen bikes. I will not buy any bike if the owner cannot give a credible story, or if I have the hint that something is wrong. Having been the victim of bike thieves myself, more than once, I ask all of us to be more aware! Your seller could be supporting a destructive habit, or heaven knows what. Ignorance is not bliss if you have a conscience!


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bike deals..or steals? posted by Drew on 10/12/2003 at 8:42:20 PM
Also beware of a person parting out a nice bike, yes some do this to make more then selling it complete. My Raleigh Tourist was swiped, (they cut a thick chain !) Sure enough, all these Tourist parts of the same date as my bike started showing up on ebay 40 miles from my home. The crook was caught. I say, ask seller questions if something seems funny and take a few notes on your own bike, serial #, date codes, etc. Some parts are a give away as to ID, my bike had a scarce Enlite roadster rack from Germany which I restored, when I saw it for sale, I knew all this sellers Tourist items were mine!






MISC:   George A. Wyman update posted by: Rif on 10/12/2003 at 2:50:41 AM
I have just added a whole bunch of new pictures and text to the new George A. Wyman web site.
It can be seen at:
http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/rif_addams/home.html
Click on the "road updates" link to see the new pic.s and read the beginings of the centennial ride across the country.
Click on the "building the bike" to see some of the build up of our replica. I have only just started on that page so it's still kinda sparse and rough, but some of it is there.
It took a while but i guess I'm starting to figure out this whole web site building, html writing, techno crap.
:-)
Keep the Tire Side Down,
Rif







AGE / VALUE:   Dating Sunbeam roadster posted by: David Poston on 10/10/2003 at 11:31:27 PM
I am soon (hopefully) to be the owner of a 1920s-era Sunbeam gents 26" wheel roadster, frame #1666660, with Sturmey Archer "K2" 3-spd hub. Now, is there a resource available by which I can date this thing? I know there are serial no. charts for Raleigh, but what about Sunbeam?

David


   RE:AGE / VALUE: Dating Sunbeam roadster posted by P.C. Kohler on 10/11/2003 at 12:06:21 AM
Congratulations. Now that you're in such august company, you need to join the V-CC in England. Post a pix of your machine and give the serial number and I reckon someone will be able to date it to the week, month and year. Most likely someone has the original sale receipt! Bicycles are bicycles but a Sunbeam is a Sunbeam and folks are simply looney over them. The V-CC has one chap who is the nominated "Marque Specialist" for Sunbeams and there is a website on the make listed in the Links section of Roll Britannia.

Just don't dare name your Sunbeam Mr. Phoebus, David... you may be a Sunbeam owner and, I think, a composer, but there was only one Sir Edward Elgar!

P.C. Kohler


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Dating Sunbeam roadster posted by Chris on 10/11/2003 at 4:40:31 PM
I saw the picture of Sir Edward with his bike and wonder what happened to his bike after he passed on.

Nobody seems to know what became of his bike.
There are Raleigh made Sunbeam bicycles but these are a far cry from the original Sunbeams.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Dating Sunbeam roadster posted by Matthew on 10/11/2003 at 5:18:45 PM
The rear hub is 1932 but of course the rest of the cycle may well be older. Well done for finding your own little ray of sunshine to make you smile!
Matthew

Ps. Did Jesus have a Sunbeam? No, the roar of his Triumph was heard throughout the land!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Dating Sunbeam roadster posted by Dick in FL on 10/12/2003 at 9:57:06 PM
I followed the Sunbeam link on Roll Britannia to the picture of Sir Edward standing alongside his 28 inch frame Sunbeam with it's top tube traversing his sternum above the belly-button. How in the world did he ever bring his machine to a safe halt without giving himself an episiotomy? That machine was built for a giant with a 37 inch inseam. I know someone has an explanation for me.

BTW: Your web site is a treasure chest!

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Dating Sunbeam roadster posted by sam on 10/14/2003 at 1:54:10 AM
Remember at the time those bikes were built very high bikes were not too far in the past.I'm sure he stopped the same as a high wheeler might have.---sam

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Dating Sunbeam roadster posted by Tim Powell on 10/14/2003 at 9:45:34 AM
Hi,
I have several 26" frame machines from before WWI and a few from the inter-war years. Most machines from this era were very high. The method of riding is quite different from my 24" machines. When stopping you have to sit forward onto the cross bar and lean slightly to put your foot to the ground. Mounting is quite an art as well. You have to push off well and ensure that the off-side pedal is at the top of it's arc. It is not so much of a problem with a ladies frame as you can step through. I have been riding machines like this for over 30 years and only fallen off a few times. My grandmother rode a 26" Sunbeam cycle that I still have. She was only about 5' 8" tall and wore very long skirts! She would carry large amounts of shopping in the basket on the front. She woulkd sometimes carry her Singer sewing machine on a speacial rear carrier that my granfather made for her, (she was a seamstress). I live in the country and enjoy being able to see over the hedgerows unlike my friends on their MTBs. I supose that when these machines were made, the roads in Britain were pretty bad and large wheels and a high frame kept you away from the mud. Old large machines were common and easy to get twenty years ago but now they are very rare. My son is going to set up a Web page for me so that I can post pictures of my collection so you will be able to see some of these high frame cycles in action.

Tim.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Dating Sunbeam roadster posted by Dick in FL on 10/15/2003 at 1:33:47 AM
Thanks so much for that vivid description. I have become keenly interested in the "why and how" of this era. Be sure to give us all a "heads-up" when you get your web page up.






FOR SALE:   Raleigh Colt posted by: Jim on 10/10/2003 at 4:36:58 PM
Very complete (except for missing chainguard)and original 1968 Colt, root beer brown, 17.5" frame. Cosmetically very good & mechanically excellent. Phillips style calipers, Brooks pebble grain mattress saddle, off white grips, AW hub, plastic lens type trigger, Heron chainring. I just could not bring myself to break it up for parts to complete other projects. $65 + shipping, or trade for Raleigh Industries era BSA frame. Please email me for photos.







AGE / VALUE:   1983 raleigh 3 speed posted by: Jonathan on 10/10/2003 at 11:53:10 AM
My neighbor has a 3 speed Raleigh with less then 20 miles on it. I cleaned it up for him and it looks and rides great. He wants to sell it and me what would be a fair price. I have no idea so Help! Thanks


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1983 raleigh 3 speed posted by MR on 10/10/2003 at 12:12:19 PM
You ah...gotta describe it bro'

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1983 raleigh 3 speed posted by james on 10/11/2003 at 12:08:41 AM
hey john,
today i picked up alate 80,s early 90,s raleigh [ technium]
somewhat liteweight mtb.has sugino 3-piece,and a suntour accushift system,has made in america all over but is not made by huffy as ive found out from sheldon b.
nice met.silver . im trying to date this myself right now!!
james






AGE / VALUE:   Sears made in austria posted by: Joey on 10/9/2003 at 11:47:44 PM
I have a bike identical to the bike here- its a sears made in AUSTRIA. It has a 3 speed hub, trigger type shifter. Its the same paint scheme as the one in the link, but not with those tires. By the way, it's %100 original and in GREAT working order- about what value, and age. 1970's seems kinda new to me for this thing. thanks http://bikeicons.com/1970s%20Sears%20Made%20in%20Australia%20Girls.html


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Sears made in austria posted by Joey on 10/9/2003 at 11:53:08 PM
oh by the way- all components are austrian or german, and has the original leather "san marco" saddle. Did they have leather in the 70's? (on bike seats i mean)






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Period Correct Rack posted by: Max M. on 10/9/2003 at 4:42:06 AM
Well here is a shameless advert for a period correct rear rack for those classic roadsters who want to carry panniers.
I hate to let it go but I am making room for my Raleigh Golden Arrow.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2195538430&category=420&rd=1







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Period Correct Rack posted by: Max M. on 10/9/2003 at 4:42:06 AM
Well here is a shameless advert for a period correct rear rack for those classic roadsters who want to carry panniers.
I hate to let it go but I am making room for my Raleigh Golden Arrow.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2195538430&category=420&rd=1







AGE / VALUE:   raleigh trent tourist posted by: mat on 10/8/2003 at 9:42:23 PM
ive just got hold of a raleigh trent tourist (female frame i think)it has all original parts as far as i can see,the front hub is a sturney archer with a single 9 and a 60 on it,the rear hub is an internal 3 speed with no clearly visible markings or brand,it has fully working original dynamo lights,the colour scheme is a maroon and cream with a matching matress seat lined with what appears to be animal hair?the serial number on the frame is 27686 AF
. I have dated it to be around 1960-1962,unless someone that knows better can correct that,all this for a fiver at the local dump!!! cool huh,any suggestions on the value,its not in too bad condition ,just a little cosmetics such as scratchs ,surface rust,and splitting tyres
cheers


   RE:AGE / VALUE: raleigh trent tourist posted by Warren on 10/9/2003 at 2:40:24 AM
I had a Trent although it was a gold with white colour scheme. Mine had EA3 wheels and a 1961 AW hub so your date sounds correct.

I though that the frame was bigger than a typical Sports model...longer wheelbase but not as big or as slack as a DL-1. Maybe this is a reason for the Tourist designation before the DL-1 became the "Tourist" My forks were quite bent so I salvaged the parts and sent the frame to the graveyard. Glad yours is in good shape.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   raleigh trent tourist posted by mat on 10/9/2003 at 4:50:51 PM
whats the best way to identify the rear gear hub,it has no exterior markings,i definitly dont want to sell it but can anyone give me a rough valuation

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   raleigh trent tourist posted by mat on 10/9/2003 at 4:51:55 PM
whats the best way to identify the rear gear hub,it has no exterior markings,i definitly dont want to sell it but can anyone give me a rough valuation

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   raleigh trent tourist posted by mat on 10/26/2003 at 8:38:46 PM
what does a bike like this go for on e-bay??






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   700 Tire liners for 28" roadster rubber??? posted by: Robert on 10/8/2003 at 1:34:48 PM
Finally got a DL-1 Saturday. Thanks Sam. Anyway, in the area where I live there are "thousands" of what we call stickers. This poke very tiny holes thru the tire into the tube causing a slow leak. All my other bikes wear heavy duty tubes to cure the problem. Already have a flat on the front of the DL-1.

My question is, has anyone tried using 700c tire liners , like "Tuffies" , in their 28" tires? Are the 700 liners long enough to work ?

Thanks
Robert


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   700 Tire liners for 28 posted by Warren on 10/8/2003 at 4:10:21 PM
The 700c size should work just fine. They usually have about 6 inches of overlap...they are a good idea for roadsters.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   700 Tire liners for 28 posted by James T. Salzlein on 10/8/2003 at 5:58:27 PM
Hello Anglophiles,

A purist might fault me, but I have had satisfactory results preventing flat tires by using a product sold in my local bike shop called "Slime". It seals the puncture thus preventing the tire from going flat, and relieving you of the chore of removing a wheel from your Roadster.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   700 Tire liners for 28 posted by Stacey on 10/10/2003 at 12:35:19 AM
I make a motion that Mr. Salzlein be taken out in the woods and shot!

No, better yet... let him fill those tyres up with Slime, add 55 psi of air, then remover the Schrader core. What a riot it will be to see him with a face full of green 'snot'. You only need hit once with that crap to have a lifetime of distaste for it. Yech!






AGE / VALUE:   Supercycle----]Ralieigh??? posted by: GMS on 10/8/2003 at 12:53:42 PM
Hey all! I just picked up another roadster, an old spercycle, i heard it called "older then 25 years old". I have read on here that old supercycles were rebadged raleighs.....but, this one says "Made In Canada" on the head "sticker". I am doubting this is a rebadged model, oh yea its a mens 10 speed roadster, like a forrest green color,chrome fenders......also i picked up a free sprit ladies bike that matches it pretty well in era.....might make a nice lowrider i think....its longer than my Haro mountain bike! Oh yes, and as a bit of a joke, i got these two old bikes just before the "Bike Nazi" did, he said had no interest in them tho, he wanted mountain bikes people were throwing out.....oh well. Now i also have a 26 1X3/8 rim for my phillips! Sweet, now my fender will fit again! Greatness......still wondering about that one too, if you kow anything about old Phillips bikes and knowlage is greatly appreacated! later


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Supercycle----]Ralieigh??? posted by GMS on 10/8/2003 at 4:08:31 PM
Free Sprit......a CCM? Yes indeed, on the frame above the kickstand.. "Made By C.C.M" Interesting........Same frame as a supercycle medalest, and that of this old centurian racing bike my aunt had.....sparks my interest, the next medalest frame i see on the hill side, i shall look to see if it says "made by ccm", and also the centurian this weekend....how many bikes are rebadged these days????? Oh sorry, i meant "Back in the Day" ;)






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Superbe on its way to Cuba posted by: Warren on 10/7/2003 at 1:54:32 AM
My "boss" takes vactions in Cuba often. She's made friends with some locals and asked me to find a beater to take with her to give to her friends as daily transportation in Havana. Nice bikes are expensive and hard to come by.

I've had this pristine 73 Superbe cluttering up the basement for 2 years. I cleaned it, tuned it, dropped it off at the LBS for boxing and it's on it's way to Cuba on Thursday. They don't know what they're getting.

I like to think they'll be grinning ear to ear as they flit from shop to shop.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Superbe on its way to Cuba posted by MR on 10/7/2003 at 3:49:28 PM
If it doesn't wind up under the butt of one of the kids of a "party" official.