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Archived: English Roadsters







WANTED:   Rod Brake Roadster posted by: Lawerence on 4/5/2004 at 2:34:08 PM
In the market for a cheaper Rod Brake bicycle, not as a collector's item or mint show piece but more for leisure riding. I'm looking for a 3 speed rod brake, it doesn't have to be vintage. Indian-made Eastons and the like are not out of the question. Anyone have information about how much or where I can get these?


   RE:WANTED:   Rod Brake Roadster posted by sam on 4/7/2004 at 3:18:04 AM
In Mexico.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Women's Humber posted by: Brian on 4/5/2004 at 11:35:10 AM
Before I take to the Copake swap - I'm giving any tri-state area Sports bike enthusiast the heads-up on one of my project bikes I cannot get to - a black, woman's Humber Sport with the duplex fork which comes with a newer Brooks B-66, two sets of new-ish tires. The bike is w/o the wheelset, but I'm including the original rear SA three speed hub, and one of the original (in very good condition) SA Raleigh-pattern rim that came with the bike. I also happen to have the complete decal set for this bike if you would like to restore her. I have the correct size DT stainless spokes (because I like alloy replacement rims) for a 26 x 1 3/8, 32/40 wheelbuild if you're so inclined. A bell is included with this bike. The pedals are in beautiful condition, the crank is the correct Humber-style. Chrome is good. Due to the high shipping costs of these bikes - pick up only if interested. To assemble all of these parts would be a prohibitive expense for this type of bike - I'll negotiate a very fair price for a buyer I recognize from oldroads and/or the roll britannia message boards. Pictures available as a file attachment to your email address that accepts large jpg images.







AGE / VALUE:   hercules posted by: jack on 4/5/2004 at 6:13:05 AM
Well its been a while since I've posted so I hope everyone is well.

I picked up a Hercules "Tourist" on Sat, didn't really want it as I've run out of room but at $15 I couldn't pass it up. Its not the price that matters so much as the time to clean them up that I'm short on. It was pretty dirty although all there except frt wheel. I'm quite sure its pre-Raleigh and AMF as it has an oiler BB and marked Hercules 3sp hub (no date). Since I have several 3sp Raleighs the differences are interesting. All in all, every bit as good as 50's/60's Raleigh but flashier. Dimpled fork, Dunlop rims, cool cream-colored headtube and darts on top and bottom tubes over very thick black enamel. English chrome fenders and chainguard with caliper brakes. Decal on seatube mimics Reynolds and says 'Guaranteed Finest Quality Steel Throughout, Hand-Brazed and Bonded". Brass and enameled head-badge says Hercules Tourist. Searching web I didn't find any examples from mid-50's so if any of you are familiar with these please let me know more info for dating. I can email a pic as well.

Jack


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   hercules posted by roger on 4/27/2004 at 1:37:09 PM
I am trying to locate a Hercules Courier ''57 ish]to replace mine which was stolen last year.The coureir was almost identical to the Tourist.
Are you selling?






AGE / VALUE:   Oh No!!!! posted by: Bryan on 4/4/2004 at 10:33:10 PM
Drat!! On my weekly trip to the dump, I saw they put up a new "No Picking" sign where people leave old bicycles and stuff. Damn our litigious society.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Oh No!!!! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/5/2004 at 12:13:04 AM
Well... I for one would have "picked" the sign!

Perhaps there may be a way to negotiate with the proprietors / overseers of the establishment?

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Oh No!!!! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/5/2004 at 12:13:43 AM
Well... I for one would have "picked" the sign!

Perhaps there may be a way to negotiate with the proprietors / overseers of the establishment?

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Oh No!!!! posted by GMS on 4/5/2004 at 10:37:17 AM
Now whats the point in that?? People nag about recycling and all, then when you goto keep something as big as a bike out of a landfill the same hippies again have somthing to say about it! I would say throw that sign away, but where would you put it? its already in the dump!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Oh No!!!! posted by Mike on 4/5/2004 at 6:15:04 PM
I would go through it anyway, I don't think they'll be too mad that you're taking some "trash" off their hands.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Spring tune up...shoulda left it :( posted by: GMS on 4/4/2004 at 1:19:21 PM
Talking my bike down from the long winter storage, I decided to try and work out a few bugs, one was the fork, The berrings were messed up and even had a few missing, so i go to take off the handle bars, the first step, somthing ive done dozens of times on that bike, SNAP! bolt broke.... so now I need to hunt down a bolt for my handle bars, not such a big deal, so i go and replace the berrings, BUT, my fork STILL has slop in it, cant really notice it unless you hit a bump or put on the brakes... any ideas on whats the matter or what I could to fix it? It won't tighten anymore, so I am at a loss for ideas


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Spring tune up...shoulda left it :( posted by Jeff R on 4/5/2004 at 12:39:25 AM
Did you use the proper size and number of balls? Raleigh built bikes use 25 - 5/32 balls on each race. Origional Phillips made bikes pre 1960 with the floating races use 30 - 1/8 balls. Try retighting the bearing retaining nut. Check and make sure that the threads on the stem or the nuts are not stripped.






WANTED:   All-Rounder Alloy bars? posted by: Joe on 4/4/2004 at 9:18:01 AM
I am looking for a good pair of alloy All-Rounder style handlebars for a Raleigh Super Tourer Project. Brand doesn't matter, any made in England, or compatale bar. If I can't find a set of All-Rounder bars, I would settle for a set of Alloy North Road style bars. (The All-Rounder bar is the style that looks like a regular touring bar but is more straight and doesn't bend around backwards as far). I found some Nitto mustache bars online, but there not really what I'm after.
Thanks,
Joe


   RE:WANTED:   All-Rounder Alloy bars? posted by Dick in FL on 4/5/2004 at 1:50:25 AM
A Super Tourer? That's the "Hen's tooth" of Raleighs! I would *love* to find one for myself. Anyway, the catalog refers to the specific alloy handlebar you want as a "North Rounder". As a lookalike expedient, you might want to consider using the more common steel version used on the Sprites which was called an "All-Rounder". I have two bikes with these, and they are handsome and comfortable.

   RE:WANTED:   All-Rounder Alloy bars? posted by David on 4/5/2004 at 9:41:21 PM
I believe Harris Cyclery has a Nitto version in aluminum.

   RE:WANTED:   All-Rounder Alloy bars? posted by Joe on 4/6/2004 at 9:45:17 AM
I looked at the Nitto bars, they are more like a regular set of North Road bars but they have a longer handle area, as if to be used with a twist grip shifter. I have a set of the steel Raleigh Sprite bars, but they are steel and are a bit peppered. I'm in no real hurry, and if I'm going to spend $35 for a set of bars, I might as well keep looking for the right ones. I saw a closer match today at a local bike shop, on a new Fuji comfort bike, they are very similar but appear maybe a bit narrower, I didn't measure them, but I can take a set of Sprite bars to match up the bends side by side. Fuji doesn't have replacement parts available and the bars have no name on them, but they have to be availlable somewhere. If I decide to use something else until I find what i am looking for, I would just go with a set of cheap alloy mtb bars. The all-rounder bars on the Sprite I believe are almost identical to the alloy North Rounder bars in bends.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   All-Rounder Alloy bars? posted by Dick in FL on 4/6/2004 at 8:27:20 PM
Joe,
Offhand I cannot think of any other model of bicycle that was offered with these bars. That would make the probability of finding alloy North Rounder handlebars skinnier than the already very slender probability of finding another Super Tourer ... at last in the US. Just the same ... good luck!

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   All-Rounder Alloy bars? posted by Chris on 4/7/2004 at 9:58:28 AM
Randenauer bars?Try the Rivendell website.The catalogue has the Nitto version
Not the mustache----The Randenauer(sp)they have a few different ones that may show what you are looking for.

--Bicycle specialties of Canada may be the place to look.

Hope you find what your looking for






FOR SALE:   Raleigh dl-1 tourist Black Men's Frame posted by: Tertuliano on 4/3/2004 at 9:19:39 PM
I have a 1973 raleigh tourist(Black Men's Frame) for sale . The bike is original down to the front lug nuts with the red R and the Raleigh Tires that are still in great condition. The frame is totally straight. I live in CT and don't want the bike to just sit in storage. The condition of the bike is quite good, it looks great. I am waiting for a b66 saddle to arrive. I could email pictures to anyone who requests them. I am growing very attached to the bike but I'm pretty sure I want to sell it. Thank you


   RE:FOR SALE:   Raleigh dl-1 tourist Black Men's Frame posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/4/2004 at 11:52:44 AM
OK, whereabouts in CT are you sir? Might be interested in the velocipede in question. If you could shoot some particulars to my email I would greatly appreciate it. A pic or two, price and your location. Depending upon where at in CT I would prefer to pickup as to avoid having to disassemble and incur shipping costs.

Thanks!

Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:FOR SALE:   Raleigh dl-1 tourist Black Men's Frame posted by Bryan on 4/4/2004 at 10:25:53 PM
I live in Connecticut, and have waited a long time to find a DL1 for myself. Larry, with all due respects, since you already have one (or more, I think) and this is in my home state, will you let me have first crack at it?

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Raleigh dl-1 tourist Black Men's Frame posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/5/2004 at 12:01:55 AM
Absolutely and by all means! GO FOR IT! And best of luck!

Regards,

Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:FOR SALE: Raleigh dl-1 tourist Black Men's Frame posted by Mike on 4/5/2004 at 2:33:39 PM
How much/ what range of price are you asking for?

   RE:FOR SALE:  dl1 posted by tertuliano on 4/6/2004 at 9:08:52 PM
I am located in Wilton CT and I would perfer that whoever is interested contact me via email at montiero@hotmail.com and I will send you photos and I would entertain offers. The bicycle is in very good shape but it is not a museum piece, it was ridden and respected especially since I aquired it. I have had a few people give me offers but until someone physically comes over to see the cycle it is not a done deal. Drop me an email. Thank you.

   RE:FOR SALE:  dl1 posted by tertuliano on 4/6/2004 at 9:09:19 PM
I am located in Wilton CT and I would perfer that whoever is interested contact me via email at montiero@hotmail.com and I will send you photos and I would entertain offers. The bicycle is in very good shape but it is not a museum piece, it was ridden and respected especially since I aquired it. I have had a few people give me offers but until someone physically comes over to see the cycle it is not a done deal. Drop me an email. Thank you.






FOR SALE:   Raleigh dl-1 tourist Black Men's Frame posted by: Tertuliano on 4/3/2004 at 9:19:39 PM
I have a 1973 raleigh tourist(Black Men's Frame) for sale . The bike is original down to the front lug nuts with the red R and the Raleigh Tires that are still in great condition. The frame is totally straight. I live in CT and don't want the bike to just sit in storage. The condition of the bike is quite good, it looks great. I am waiting for a b66 saddle to arrive. I could email pictures to anyone who requests them. I am growing very attached to the bike but I'm pretty sure I want to sell it. Thank you







AGE / VALUE:   59 Indian Scout posted by: sambo on 4/3/2004 at 7:18:02 PM
I am trying to find a value for a 1959 Indian Scout with a 3-speed Sturmey Archer hub. It is balack and there are only a couple of scratches to the paint. Any ideas?







ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Windsor posted by: Oscar on 4/2/2004 at 5:13:17 AM
Can someone tell me a bit about a bike I just found? I have a maroon (terra cotta, really) Windsor on 28x 1 3/8 wheels. It has a decal on the headbadge reading Windsor, Made In England, T. Eaton Co. Ltd. Canada.

The hubs are Perry coasters, 40 spokes in the rear and 32 in front. The rear dropouts open in the rear like track ends. The coaster hubs say Perry 40-14.

The most eyecatching detail is the top tube. It's straight, like a male frame, then angles and goes downward toward the seat tube. The seat stays are bolted onto the seat lug.

I'm interested in the approximate age of the bike...and of course if it has any interest to collectors.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Windsor posted by sam on 4/4/2004 at 1:32:16 AM
I'm supprised the Canadian boys didn't respond to this--guess they are all out ridding their Eaton Gliders! So I'll start.The frame is called a hump back.The Parry is an english coaster(they also supplied hubs for American bikes)the 40/14 refers to 40 spokes/14g.I think Eaton was a large Canadain dept. store.No idea of date of your bike--1930--1960s ??? This type of bike did sell in Canada over a long peroid of time--sam... who would like to hear more Canadain bike history

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Windsor posted by Tom on 4/4/2004 at 3:02:08 AM
Oscar
Most of the Eatons bikes were made in England. I have a few Eatoms bikes with the same frame. I also have one with 2 top tubes one under the other, same hump back design. What type of decal is on the front of your bike. Is it foil type or a water transfer. What type of rims are on the bike. Could you send me a picture of the bike. I have lots of pictures of Eatons bikes from the catalogues from the 20's through the 60's.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Windsor posted by Oscar on 4/5/2004 at 3:51:13 AM
Thanks for tuning in, Sam and Tom. The headbadge if clear (not foil). The rims are the kind of rims I see on latter sports. I cannot see any markings on the rims due to corrosion.

It's funny that you mention the double top tube bikes. I see that style in Mexico a lot. Windsor also make lightweight bikes, and the company eventually moved production south to Mexico.






ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pseudo Club posted by: Mike on 4/2/2004 at 1:59:14 AM
Anyone know if there's a guide to making 'pseudo-club' 3 speeds? I have an old 10 speed that is all Black, a marque called "Samurai" (anyone know about this company? I know nothing about them and no one I have asked knows). It's 70s looking, 10 speed, 27 or 28 inch wheels, I don't remember. What would it take to convert it over to a 3 speed? I know I have to change hubs (do older Japanese 10 speeds usually use the same drop out size as S-A?) and probably convert to a single chainwheel. Has anyone has success with this, and if so how much effort was needed to make it successful? I've always wanted a higher end 3 speed club but I don't have the money for an original.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pseudo Club posted by Oscar on 4/2/2004 at 5:13:07 AM
You shouldn't have any trouble fitting an SA AW three speed hub in the rear dropouts. The 5-speed spread is a touch too wide, but the locknuts will cinch it down. You also need a pulley and fulcrum for the three speed cable.

How are you going to shift? You can use an SA trigger on the handlebars. I shift my faux club bike with a bacron shifter.

All in all, it's pretty easy after you find or make a 27" threespeed wheel.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pseudo Club posted by Steve Ringlee on 4/3/2004 at 3:40:54 AM
If you need them, I have two 27" alloy rims laced into SA hubs (front and rear AW 3-speed) with stainless spokes that would work well.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Pseudo Club posted by James on 4/3/2004 at 7:35:15 AM
A Nitto Moustache handlebar and matching stem would look really nice, some "club" bikes had similar handlebars back in the day.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Pseudo Club posted by toowheels on 4/4/2004 at 2:34:43 AM
Steve I am interested in your wheels please email me.






AGE / VALUE:   Brooks seat logo badge posted by: Ward on 4/1/2004 at 10:04:24 PM
I have aquired a B15 saddle with an oval badge. It is dark gold/bronze in colour. Does anyone here know when this style of badge was used? I checked the Brooks Museum at the Wallingford website, but can't see much with regard to the logo badges. Thanks.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Brooks seat logo badge posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/1/2004 at 10:19:17 PM
The "oval badge" (or more precisely the oval embossed badge on the leather) for Brooks saddle is 1957 or earlier I believe.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Brooks seat logo badge posted by Ward on 4/2/2004 at 1:40:31 PM
PC: I'm sorry. I should have been more specific. I meant to refer to the badge on the back of the saddle. It is gold/bronze with raised letters That spell "brooks". It is not the black and white "brooks" badge that I have on the other saddles.Any help? Thanks in advance. Ward

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Brooks seat logo badge posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/2/2004 at 3:32:44 PM
Ah so.... actually I think it's the same basic date... when they change the embossed logo on the leather from the oval to the shieldly thing (for want of a better description), the metal badge was changed to a similar style.

Little details? Nope... the saddle is one of the first things I see on a bike and having the period correct one is important for that "look". Shame really since Brooks saddles of a certain vintage are getting very pricey indeed.

At one point, in the 1980s I think, Brooks actually remanufactured some of the early badged B17Ns... I saw one on eBay. A new saddle with the old look. I wish they'd do that again but given their present pricing, it's going to cost at least as much as an original.

P.C. Kohler






AGE / VALUE:   Sturmey/archer hub?? posted by: sam on 4/1/2004 at 9:15:36 PM
I got of ebay(account I'm a sucker for this stuff and no one else bid)a very old Sturmey/Archer 3speed drum hub.It is a painted black hub.Has the S/A ribbon logo.The drum faceplate is cast,And the hub is stamped with only the letter "A". Did S/A make an A hub or is it missing the other letter?---sam







FOR SALE:   1938 Golden Arrow posted by: Max M. on 3/31/2004 at 4:10:18 PM
As many of you may have already heard, I am selling off one of my prized English club bikes.
1938 Raleigh Golden Arrow
Ebay Item #2235727304
I hate to see it go but wanted it to go to an appreciative home.

Thanks
Max M.


   RE:FOR SALE:   1938 Golden Arrow posted by Fritz on 3/31/2004 at 4:39:53 PM
Was fur eine fahrader ist das?






FOR SALE:   Spares & Fitments for Sale posted by: P.C. Kohler on 3/31/2004 at 4:05:14 PM
Spring Cleaning....

I am offering the following cycle spares and fitments for sale.

These will be offered until 15 April afterwhich anything remaining will go on eBay.

Terms: Paypal only (account name kohl57@starpower.net). Postage extra (Priority Mail to US addresses). No extra for packing. Items will be held for only 72 hours pending payment.

Sturmey-Archer FG "Dyno-Four" hub. 40 hole. Dated 7 58. Excellent chrome and overall condition. Not tested, sold as is. 18-tooth cog and indicator rod included. A rare hub in the USA (dyno-threes were usually offered). Four gears: 26.6 increase, 21 per cent and 33 per cent decrease from normal. $70

Sturmey-Archer GH6 "Dyno-Hub". 32 hole. Dated 11 53. Some rust on generator side but otherwise chrome is good. Silver face. Not tested, sold as is. $35

Sturmey-Archer 9" seat post, NOS with minimal shop wear. Chromed steel. Made in England, the real thing in a hard to find longer size. $15

Sturmey-Archer 7" seat post, as above. $10

Seat post, chrome. Some crazing and slight pitting of chrome. Unknown origin but fits British machines. RARE 12" size. $12

Raleigh grips: original 4" moulded plastic as fitted to roadsters and Raleigh 20s. Obtained from Raleigh in 1987. Warm grey colour. Slightly used. Excellent condition. $12 a pair (two pair available)

Raleigh grips as above but NOS and stone (beige) colour. Marked Made in England. $12 pair (one pair available).

Raleigh Industries Dealers Reference Book. The very desirable hard-cover 8 x 11" book detailing the full range [Rudge and Triumph only] in glorious colour renderings and full specs with photos of the Nottingham plant and manufacture. c. 1955. Excellent condition. $45

Phillips no. 55 "Anglo" rat-trap racing pedals. Standard British tread (fits any British machine). Well-used, chromed is worn and rusted (well cleaned off) but still sound and usuable as is. Came off a 1948 Raleigh Clubman but not original to machine. $14

Brooks B-15 Champion Standard saddle. Metal badge.Date code 1968. Chrome undercarriage. Well used, leather has minor cracks, scuffs and "patina" but still supple. Not re-tensioned. No cracks or pulling away from rivets. Stock fit for the Lentons, Pathfinders, Clippers etc.
Plenty of life left in this one. $20

BSA "BSA Bicycles 1934-1949 Master Price List". A unique reference piece, indispensible to the BSA collector, this 286-page (!) 8 ½ x 5" softcover book lists every single part used in every BSA model during the period. It also details the production years of each machine, colours etc. Everything you need to know about BSA! No illustrations.
VERY grubby card covers and page ends but sound binding and clean inside. $20

Saddle bag. Black vinyl aftermarket. 9" x 6 ½ x 9". Two side pockets. NOS but top seam repaired. $7

Thanks for your consideration.

P.C. Kohler



   RE:FOR SALE:   Spares & Fitments for Sale posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/2/2004 at 3:34:32 PM
Both Sturmey-Archer hubs and the saddlebag are sold.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Spares & Fitments for Sale posted by un on 4/24/2004 at 11:30:41 AM
i was interested SA "GH6" dyno hub can you send some information to me ??? ( with other dyno hub pic thaT U HAS )