ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Incorrect clamp mounting? posted by: Kurt K on 1/18/2005 at 2:34:47 AM
After seeing this photo, I am quite perplexed - I believe the traditional mounting of this particular clamp was to place the cable UNDER the raised section, opposite to what is shown here. Or is it just a specific mounting for the odd stays on a Raleigh Chopper MK2?

http://www.bondbug.com/choppers/sprint/images/images/DSCF0018_jpg_jpg_jpg.jpg

Take care...

Kurt
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Incorrect clamp mounting? posted by Matthew on 1/19/2005 at 7:22:56 PM
I go with the thought that if it looks wrong then it probably is. The run of this cable is nasty, poor action and rapid wear.

Matthew - If you're gonna do it do it right.....
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bought another funky Sports... posted by: Warren on 1/18/2005 at 12:22:25 AM
Had to...a 9 outa 10, 1960 Raleigh Canadian...very similar to the 58 Trent Sports (see Retro Raleighs catalogues). Drop bars, EA1 Dunlops, AW and a lovely red Bluemels frame pump...no fenders. Enntry level "club bike" with non standard decalling for the canadian market. Sweet. Now what to do with it...no room left here.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Bought another funky Sports... posted by Warren on 1/18/2005 at 12:30:47 AM
Oops...no mudguards. Blasphemy!
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Bought another funky Sports... posted by Kurt K on 1/18/2005 at 12:35:51 AM
Sounds like a beautiful bike.

I'd bet that the off-white NOS Bluemels Lightweight fender set from Mostlymusclebikes.com would be a very elegant solution to the fender problem.

Take care,

Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Bought another funky Sports... posted by Warren on 1/18/2005 at 12:53:14 AM
BTW Kurt...it has the braze on pulley wheel, the oil port and the double-ended brake cables. Your database show the cables going up unitl '65 but I think they were being filtered out as early as '62 based on the bikes I've seen.

Not sure whether to ride this one or save it for some unknown reason. I've got a Lenton Clubman as well as another '59 Sports Superbe on the go. I've never seen the Sports Superbe before...chromed fork tips, fork lamp bracket and unusual decalling with stars on the downtube. That one will be a fixed gear with a Dyno on the front and an NOS small Sturmey light for the lamp bracket.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Bought another funky Sports... posted by Kurt K on 1/18/2005 at 2:16:33 AM
Well, Warren, it so happens that I am not too sure myself what year they were phased out - I put '65 as the end year of most things only to temporarily satisfy the HTML coding for the chart. I was planning to put the correct year (obviously), but help on the project has been limited.

The Superbe Sports Tourist shown in the '58 catalogue from Retro Raleighs here wouldn't be like your '59, would it?

http://retroraleighs.com/catalogs/1958/pages/8d.htm

Take care,

Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Bought another funky Sports... posted by James on 1/18/2005 at 8:56:30 PM
There is a very pretty red Trent sports on ebay in the UK.
Are the off white Bluemels still on mostlymusclebikes.com? I couldn't find them.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Bought another funky Sports... posted by Kurt K on 1/19/2005 at 2:50:25 AM
Couldn't locate the NOS set - they do have this used set:

http://mostlymusclebikes.com/roadbike/rbf101.htm

Take care,

Kurt
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The scammers are back...again posted by: Kurt K on 1/17/2005 at 11:48:31 PM
Recieved this email this afternoon:
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From: stam_henrry001@****mail.com
To: cudak888@***.com
Subject: cycle parts, frames, a few bikes
Date: 1/17/2005 6:10:00 PM Eastern Standard Time

Hello,
i saw your placed add while browsing this morning and am interested in buying it.may i know if it is still for sale?if it is,then send me the full details i need to know about the placed add;it's age,current condition and your final asking price.also,i will love to see it's recent pics.may i also know your mode of payment e.g cashier's check. i await your urgent response to this mail. thanks,
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The scammers are back...again posted by Kurt K on 1/18/2005 at 12:26:52 AM
My reply...

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Dear Mr. --,

i recieved your sent email while reading this afternoon, and am interested in selling your Very Interested Party my Very Valuable Antique bikes parts, Mr. --.

The placedadd is located where the place was added to, e.g. 1 + 2. it's current condition very good in Very Valuable Antique "British Racing" Bronze Green. it is a Very Valuable "english racer" touring type, age is Very Antique old.

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you can see Very Valuable Three Speed StormyArchier Gear & Brroks Weather Saddle very Vintage Rare

send Vintage Very Rare money the sooner the better lots of money thank you

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your Vintage Very Rare Urgent Response Would Be Appriciated!

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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The scammers are back...again posted by Geoff Rogers on 1/19/2005 at 9:08:49 PM
Boy, I get these things all the time. I sometimes tell the "buyer" that yes, thanking you most kindly, the ITEM IN QUESTIONN is in most very pleasant condition and highly desirability in it's most excellent good ness, yes! And furthermore that I will accept payment of nine million dollars US, payable in Indian Head pennies and deposited on my very own personal doorstep, thanking you most kindly.
Lately I just delete the rubbish.
Illegitimi non carborundum.
Geoff
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AGE / VALUE:   BADGE CRAZYNESS! posted by: CHRIS on 1/17/2005 at 6:21:21 AM
As a old school hunter of this stuff, I know better than to pay this much. Bought it anyways!

What did it is that this has never been mounted on a bike, and it's a Robin Hood badge.
I love this stuff!
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: BADGE CRAZYNESS! posted by James on 1/17/2005 at 7:29:51 PM
I've got two NOS robin hood, a BSA and a Rudge badge, I tell myself these are for future restoration projects.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   BADGE CRAZYNESS! posted by Steve on 1/19/2005 at 3:12:12 PM
Has anybody seen any sources of Robin Hood decals for frames, chain guards, fenders?
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AGE / VALUE:   strange place to find a Raleigh posted by: Smitty on 1/16/2005 at 10:22:32 PM
The posting of the gold roadster reminded me of a the bright yellow roadster I seen while I was working down at the city bus garage. The bus repair complex is very large so the guys working ther use bikes that they find around. They dont care what it is because you see them on old girls 3spds and what ever. This was a bright yellow mens Raleigh 3spd. When I was ther the time I first saw it I did not have any cash on me. If I see it again I might offer 20 bucks for it if it's not to beat up. The color looks like it is for visibility. I don't see bikes like this in the car or aircraft plants they all have the purpuse built tricycles.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   strange place to find a Raleigh posted by Kurt K on 1/17/2005 at 12:32:29 AM
Smitty, what you saw was probably a 1975 or '76 Sports.

A brash bright "Lemon Yellow" (as Raleigh billed it) was available these two years, and it's nearly undoubtable that it's what you saw.

It happens to be the rarest color available that year. I highly doubt it was for visibility - I don't believe it's floresent. Just one of those odd colors that was "in" back in the '70s.

P.S.: The gold on the '72 is nothing like the Lemon Yellow close up, and the latter is not metallic, unlike the '72 color.

Take care,

Kurt
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   strange place to find a Raleigh posted by Chris on 1/17/2005 at 4:35:52 AM
Prop house's and movie people want these too. Yellow is the most rare and desireable color of the Raleigh Sports bikes. Get ahold of it but don't go over 50.00 tops. Offer 20.00 for it.
I never see the yellow Sports and I have been hunting and collecting these for years.
Good Luck
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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   strange place to find a Raleigh posted by Kurt K on 1/17/2005 at 3:02:57 PM
Interesting points there Chris.

I know one fellow in Mass. who has a 23" Sports in this particular color - I've been buying most of the parts off of it for my own bronze-green '75.

I might consider buying the whole darn thing from him - my '71 has been my daily-driver, but I believe the beginning of it's restoration may not be far off in the future...will need something to take it's place - the 23" frame sounds just like the ticket.

Take care,

Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   strange place to find a Raleigh posted by Chris on 1/17/2005 at 8:16:49 PM
Also, the yellow color is more visable to the general public.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: strange place to find a Raleigh posted by Warren on 1/18/2005 at 12:38:12 AM
Anyone notice the incorrect mounting of the rear brake, similar to the ladies models. Water will run in there and seize the cable.

I've seen those fenders on other bikes but I've never seen one in the flesh...we get the standard hockey stick guards with the gentle arc at the front.

Hate the generator and placement of the tailight.

Also, the cable runs are generally sloppy...big drooping loops everywhere. Tsk...I'm feeling persnickety today.

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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: strange place to find a Raleigh posted by Warren on 1/18/2005 at 1:51:50 AM
I'm tired...I meant chainguard...not fenders...sheesh
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: strange place to find a Raleigh posted by Kurt K on 1/18/2005 at 2:01:43 AM
You mean the '72 Warren?

Yes - I noticed that cable routing...did make me wonder who in their right mind would do that. My '71 has a factory cable running properly down the frame, my guess would be the cable on this '72 is a replacement by some so-called bike-shop "mechanic."

Did you mean "chainguard?" instead of "fenders?" I like this guard too - gives it a unique personality unlike the other '70s Sports models.

My father despises the guard though, consequently, the guard has recieved various off-color nicknames (much to my dislike) about it's general shape. His idea of a Raleigh Sports leans towards the 1952 "Model 21" Sports (the steel clubbike model), and I don't believe he'll accept much anything else.

Speaking of the fenders though, has anyone noticed the rear mudguard is missing the center stay? I assume this is from factory, to allow the Presstube rack to fit.

Must agree with you - if someone is to put a headlight on a Sports, may it be placed on the Heron bracket and be powered by a proper Dynohub!

Cables can be made to look much better by just streching them between the fastening clips, and moving the slack to the front, where it is needed.

Do not apologize for your nitpicking - if it weren't for us, everyone would let their brake cables hang, their paint scratch, and their fenders dent...

Take care,

Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: strange place to find a Raleigh posted by Kurt K on 1/18/2005 at 2:03:18 AM
Has anyone noticed that the forum recently has taken to shoving new posts in the center of existing threads? An odd occurance indeed.

-Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: strange place to find a Raleigh posted by WArren on 1/18/2005 at 7:03:27 PM
I think the lack of the second stay was just part of the "devolution" of Raleighs...the Superbes of the 70's used 2 stays and the Prestube racks fit fine. I think it was just penny pinching, along with the chrome, mattress saddles, pedals, decalling and ultimately the cranks, bars, fenders through to their demise.

And the way the posts are inserted in the forum is quite annoying.
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