MISC:   Dutch Fongers posted on my website posted by: Charl Cilliers on 6/4/2005 at 11:50:50 AM
Hi

Not sure which forum to post this on....

Just to let you know I've updated my website http://www.oldbikes.741.com with many pics of my recently acquired "Opafiets" - a Dutch made Fongers Elegant

I don't know the age of this bike, can anyone hazard a guess? Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think 1930s-1940s?......

The serial number on the down tube reads P 11569

Regards

Charl

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   RE:MISC:   Dutch Fongers posted on my website posted by Charl on 6/4/2005 at 1:02:55 PM
Looks like the amount of bandwidth has been exceeded on my site for today. You'll have to wait until tomorrow to access it

Apologies

Charl
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   RE:RE:MISC:   Dutch Fongers posted on my website posted by Kurt K. on 6/5/2005 at 2:45:14 PM
Try www.freewebs.com, much better hosting service then what you have now.

-Kurt
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MISC:   Dutch Fongers posted on my website posted by: Charl Cilliers on 6/4/2005 at 11:50:50 AM
Hi

Just to let you know I've updated my website http://www.oldbikes.741.com with many pics of my recently acquired "Opafiets" - a Dutch made Fongers Elegant

I don't know the age of this bike, can anyone hazard a guess? Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think 1930s-1940s?......

The serial number on the down tube reads P 11569

Regards

Charl

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AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Super Course II posted by: Bob on 6/3/2005 at 9:07:03 PM
My uncle accquired a Raleigh Super Course II at a garage sale the other day and was wondering when these bikes were made. It is all original and in really nice shape. He was also wanting to know any value of them if any. Thanks
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Raleigh Super Course II posted by marc on 6/3/2005 at 9:48:14 PM
this is a road bike you should have posted in the lightweight section. anyway, these were at the bottom of raleigh's upper end bike. I'm guessing you're missing some of your decals as this is probably a super course MkII. They're nice bikes but not worth a ton. If it's in really nice shape I'd say between 150.00 and 200.00
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Swift Cycle posted by: Brian on 6/3/2005 at 1:08:08 AM
I have acquired an old 3-speed English bicycle that I can't find any information on. It is called a Swift Cycle made in Birmingham. It has rod brakes and a SA top-tube shifter. The rotted-off tires said Bates War Grade on the sidewall. The saddle appears to be canvas-like and says Leatheries on the rear metal tag. Everything is black on this bike and it has not been repainted...completely original. Black bars, fenders, stem. Has anybody heard of this particular bike? When was it made? The SA hub is an 'AW' but it has no date on it. Any information would be very appreciated.
Thanks,
Brian
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Swift Cycle posted by Charl Cilliers on 6/4/2005 at 11:49:16 AM
Hi Brian

I have an old Hercules roadster, also with a top-tube Sturmey Archer shifter and an undated SA 'AW' hub. I was told that in 1940/41, just before the war, Sturmey Archer made undated hubs. So, if the hub is original, then that's how old your bike is :-)

Regards

Charl
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Swift Cycle posted by Brian on 6/4/2005 at 5:01:55 PM
Thanks for the information. Do you have any pictures of your Hercules?
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by: marc on 6/2/2005 at 9:01:37 PM
I just picked this bike up and it needs more love than I can give it. It's a 1952 humber sports. It appears to be mostly all original minus some schwinn grips. It has 52 dated aw hub, front dyno hub, original lights although rear lens is missing, brooks b66 saddle, full chaincase, has alot of the original decals still. can provide pictures. I've posted here on ocasion but I mainly post in the lightweigh section. I collect road bikes and would like to trade this for some a road bike, frame, or parts. Would also conisder selling it. I live in chicago if you want to pick it up but I will also ship.

marc
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by sam on 6/2/2005 at 11:45:34 PM
Boy or girl frame ? Wheel size,26" or 28"? Humber fork?---sam
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by toowheels on 6/3/2005 at 1:48:02 AM
Marc,
Let me know what your sell price is if I would pick up the bike .
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by marc on 6/3/2005 at 1:54:42 AM
Yes it does have the double bladed fork. Like I said I really don't deal much with these types of bikes. Is 100.00 fair? If this was a raleigh pro or international I'd know exactly what its worth.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by marc on 6/3/2005 at 1:55:35 AM
I forgot to mention that it is a men's frame. The frame measures 21 inches center to top and I believe it has 26 inch wheels.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by Kevin C. on 6/3/2005 at 8:45:35 AM
I have a matching girl's Humber if anyone is interested in a set. Old repaint, full chaincase, three speed rear hub with generator for light and tube to hold charge. Double front fork. $100, Pick up in Lafayette, Indiana.
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by kim on 6/3/2005 at 11:12:46 AM
I think both you guys are pricing them way too low. The repainted one should be at least $150 and the one in Chicago could be $300 or more
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by marc on 6/3/2005 at 1:52:28 PM
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/marcgarcia80@ameritech.net/album?.dir=/749b

there's a link to some pictures. Like I said it needs some work and some TLC but it's solid and most it is there.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by Dick in FL on 6/4/2005 at 1:48:32 AM
Marc
This is a very interesting acquisition. Back in 1952 Raleigh used the Rudge and Humber marques to stab their franchised dealers in the back by furnishing these high quality bicycles to department stores. The dealers were obliged by self-preservation to insinuate to sales prospects that these were *not* genuine Raleighs. In those days the term "department store bike" was not the pejorative that Sheldon Brown has made it into. Rudges and Humbers were sold through stores like Macy's or The Outlet Co. I have anecdotal evidence that Humber may have been the last of the three to lose its full chaincase. Also, Prince Charles had one of these (a later model).

Question for you trivia 'mavins' out there. Is the front wheel on Marc's Humber mounted backwards? In 1952 Raleigh switched to fixed cones on the right side so the Dynohub should face right .... nicht wahr?

Dick in FL and out of room
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1952 humber sports for trade or sale posted by David on 6/4/2005 at 2:33:31 AM
The Dynohub has adjustable cones on both sides (unlike the regular Raleigh front hubs) so it doesn't matter which way it goes. However, most of the ones I've seen, and I've had 5 that weren't messed with, have had the terminals on the left-hand side of the bike. My 1975 USA Raleigh catalog, though, shows a Superbe with the terminals on the right.
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