AGE / VALUE:   1980s Falcon Europa posted by: Bill on 7/19/2005 at 4:07:29 AM
I have a Falcon Europa, 10 speed, drop down handlebars, all original, some scratches on the paint, and I think it's a mid-80s model -- 1985 probably. Still has the Falcon "hand made in England" label. It's been a long time, but I think I paid something like 225.00 for it. I have no idea of its current value. I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on this, especially if someone out there either has one or has seen one of these bikes around lately. Thanks!
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Sturmey Archer SW indicator chain wanted posted by: Neal Lerner on 7/18/2005 at 10:23:19 PM
Hello. I'm refurbishing a 1957 DL Roadster and discovered that it's SA indicator chain needs replacement. Unfortunately, it's the short lived SW 3-speed hub with the two-part indicator. Any ideas as to where I might find one or how to replace those tiny little rivets in the SA indicator chains?

Thanks,

N. Lerner
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Sturmey Archer SW indicator chain wanted posted by Kurt K. on 7/19/2005 at 1:43:41 PM
You may be in luck - one of my LBS must have 40 of them rattling around in one of their spares boxes. I'll dig a few out and see what he says.

P.S.: What's the length of the indicator spindle (from the inside thread to the left end of the chain)? I want to make sure I don't end up getting one that's too long or one too short.

P.S. #2: Anyone else want one of these SW indicators?

-Kurt
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Sturmey Archer SW indicator chain wanted posted by chris on 7/19/2005 at 2:17:08 PM
Sir, it is worth it to order up new spokes and replace the hub with an A.W. 3 speed. The S.W. is trouble and I would take this chance to replace it. You are best off with an F.W. four speed. Just my thoughts.
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Sturmey Archer SW indicator chain wanted posted by Kurt K. on 7/19/2005 at 3:18:02 PM
I agree with you Chris - but I know some folks like the SW, despite it's faults.

The AW's 1/4 crank rotation before gear engagement is already excessive - I can't see where anyone would stand to wait a complete revolution for a gear engagement.

-Kurt
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Sturmey Archer SW indicator chain wanted posted by Neal Lerner on 7/19/2005 at 5:49:18 PM
Kurt, I'm attaching a pic of the two pieces of the indicator. By my measurement the female barrel end is 9 cm and the mail barrel from the threaded tip to the end of the rounded part is 6.9 cm. You can see that the chain is broken off.

If you find a replacement at your LBS, I'd be glad to trade you a used B72 saddle for it (though, unfortunately, it's not a B72L).

Thanks to others for the conversion advice. I think I'll see if this one is close to working before I tinker or replace.

Neal Lerner


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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Sturmey Archer SW indicator chain wanted posted by Neal Lerner on 7/19/2005 at 5:56:41 PM
Whoops! Let's try that pic one more time: The link is http://web.mit.edu/nlerner/Public/SA_SW.JPG.


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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Sturmey Archer SW indicator chain wanted posted by Kurt K. on 7/19/2005 at 9:35:40 PM
You have mail!

-Kurt
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Sturmey Archer SW indicator chain wanted posted by Mike on 7/22/2005 at 1:34:58 AM
I vote keep it. The SW is a rarity and if you can keep her working properly it'll be a great reward. Authentic parts and a rarer hub.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Sturmey Archer SW indicator chain wanted posted by Dick in FL on 7/23/2005 at 4:01:01 AM
Would it be apostasy to mention in this company that the Shimano 3-speed hub engages within just a few imperceptible degrees of crank rotation. I actually have a Raleigh with such a hub laced into the "preternaturally strong" Raleigh patent ("Westrick") rim.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   B/B spindles posted by: lucky wentworth on 7/17/2005 at 8:54:20 PM
Does anyone have a source for Raleigh B/B spindles?
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   B/B spindles posted by Kurt K. on 7/18/2005 at 1:36:46 AM
I don't know of a consistent source, but here's one on eBay for a Raleigh Chopper - not sure if the width differs - you may want to check:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6534468997&category=420&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1

NMA, NRS, etc...

-Kurt

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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   B/B spindles posted by Matthew on 7/18/2005 at 5:49:02 PM
The BB axles are all sized and lettered or numbered. Somewhere in the middle of the axle should be a stamped or cast letter/letter or number/letter code which details the make up of your axle. That is the distance between bearing races, length of shaft, length of pedal shaft etc. All this is in the code your local 'proper' cycle shop should be able to source you and axle. Failing that let everyone here know which axle you have and I'm sure sheds and spares shelves will be rattling around the globe.

Matthew - help is at hand.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: B/B spindles posted by Ed Lang on 7/22/2005 at 2:44:26 AM
Measure it and post the size. They are very hard to find nobody has a source for more stock. I have a small colection but some sizes are very rare. I have A few used 16GC the hardest to find. Some spindles don't fit into Raleigh made cranks. ED Lang
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FOR SALE:   Chaincase posted by: Matthew on 7/17/2005 at 6:22:04 PM
Un-ashamed advert. Chaincase for sale on eBay. Item Number 6547027938. My auction. Your choice.
Thank you for bearing with this blatant commercialism.

Matthew.
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MISC:   Raleigh Folder posted by: Flavio Figliola on 7/17/2005 at 6:01:37 AM
Yes Hi everyone stumbled across a near mint condition 74' Raleigh Folder made in november. It's a bronze color, all orignal with Raleigh red line tires, frame pump, and in good riding condition. Does anybody know what they are really worth
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   RE:MISC:   Raleigh Folder posted by Matthew on 7/17/2005 at 8:56:46 AM
As with most things they are worth what the buyer will pay. Here in the UK such a cycle would struggle to sell at all, maybe reaching only £5 as they aren't saught after here. BUT in the U S of A you would probably do well but there are other contributors who would know more about prices in the states.

Matthew
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   RE:RE:MISC:   Raleigh Folder posted by Kurt K. on 7/17/2005 at 3:52:20 PM
Here in the States, Twentys are in high demand by both collectors, and riders - quite a few folks have been taking the Sheldon approach and customizing them for road or mountainbiking use, collectors like having them - plus, what's better then a Raleigh in the trunk ready to go at a moment's notice?

As a result, the general prices of Twentys on the WWW and Fleabay are skyrocketing - expect to see superb examples at $250-300, nice ones at $180-250, good riders at $80-150, and beaters at $50.

However, do some combing at the garage sales and flea markets and you might find a nice little Twenty for a good price. I bought my own Twenty for $30 from a local Schwinn collector (who couldn't figure out what to do with it!). He told me he got it at a garage sale for $20. The deals are out there, you just have to know where to look.

A great plus is if the city you live in is not as much into Raleighs as into Schwinns. I'm down in South Florida, where balloon-tire Schwinns are king, and the sight of a Raleigh at the local vintage bike show (read: Schwinn Show) causes cantiliver-frame collectors to regularly emit the word: "Huh?"

This works to my advantage, as the sight of a few Raleigh Heron headbadges lining my collection has not failed me yet to getting great deals! Next year, I'll have a sign: "WE BUY RALEIGHS."

Take care,

-Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:MISC: Raleigh Folder posted by Chris on 7/18/2005 at 4:45:52 AM
The Schwinn Run - About is more fun. Sorry, but it's the truth.
And that comes from me, A Raleigh collector, hoarder of all things Raleigh/ Sturmey. I'm no great lover of Schwinn's either. Sorry. I remember riding the Run About! It was a blast!
I own 4 of the 20's and one of them is a folder. Been all through this, the hopping up of the twenty's. Up, down and back and forth.
The Schwinn Run about does not fold however.

Go for it! Have fun! Go with the Raleigh 20 folder and keep an eye out for the chance to own a Schwinn Run About.

Listen , there are a lot of folding bicycles out there, far more than you'd expect.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: Raleigh Folder posted by Kurt K. on 7/18/2005 at 4:29:19 PM
More fun to ride, maybe - but the Twenty is a much more refined-looking machine.

The Schwinn Run-about simply looks like a cheap combo of Stingray Jr. parts minus the banana seat. No class to it whatsoever! I hate those apehangers - always have, always will!

Saw one of those Austrian made 20" folders with the J type frame a while ago in Key Largo - you can imagine my surprise when just the other day, a non-folding variant came down the street - in the form of a triple! Not a tandem, a triple! Was a sight to see.

-Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: Raleigh Folder posted by Kurt K. on 7/18/2005 at 4:29:53 PM
More fun to ride, maybe - but the Twenty is a much more refined-looking machine.

The Schwinn Run-about simply looks like a cheap combo of Stingray Jr. parts minus the banana seat. No class to it whatsoever! I hate those apehangers - always have, always will!

Saw one of those Austrian made 20" folders with the J type frame a while ago in Key Largo - you can imagine my surprise when just the other day, a non-folding variant came down the street - in the form of a triple! Not a tandem, a triple! Was a sight to see.

-Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: Raleigh Folder posted by Ed Lang on 7/22/2005 at 11:05:52 AM
I have 2 Italian made J frame folders very nice but they don't get high prices like Raleigh Twenty folding bicycle. The Twenty of course has Raleigh threaded BB cups that are very hard to find and expensive when you find them. Italian parts are avalable at good prices and sealed BB are only $25 to $30. Ed
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