ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   I'm Torn re Saddles posted by: jack on 7/5/2005 at 6:08:39 AM
I'm attempting to thin-out the herd (as I wipe my eyes) by selling a 70's Superbe and 50's Hercules Tourist. My problem is what do I do about the Brooks B66/72 saddles I love? Should I sell with ratty-tatty Brooks, new chinese, sell with new Brooks and keep broken-in old Brooks, or sell with old but good Brooks and keep new Brooks? I wish buyers would find their own damn saddles (like I had to!) but they don't care for riding home atop a post. In my neck of the woods, I pay more for the freakin Brooks than I do for whole bike!
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: I'm Torn re Saddles posted by Warren on 7/5/2005 at 1:48:19 PM
Sell with a cheap black matress saddle or ratty tatty Brooks. Saddles are personal anyway and you won't get the value back when you sell the bike.
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: I'm Torn re Saddles posted by jack on 7/5/2005 at 9:51:48 PM
Thanks Warren, good advice.
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AGE / VALUE:   1951 Rudge Whitworth Deluxe posted by: Flavio Figliola on 7/5/2005 at 5:42:51 AM
yes like to know if anyone other sheldon brown know a great deal about English bicycles who would have helpful info on Rudge bicycles bicycles. i,ve checked the serial number page.My Bike Seems to be a very rare find because the serial number reads 730 11 AZ.
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AGE / VALUE:   It's ok, I'm here now.l posted by: humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 7/5/2005 at 2:58:33 AM
Who did this? I want to know! They will answer to me!

The lady bike is a 1950's Phillips make. I forget the name right now, it's home with me here after being rescued from a basement of an antique store. I dragged it halfway across Michigan to get it here.

Some idiot ( I take a deep breath here as I sit and type a description of this crime for you all to read.) Some idiot removed the original Phillips handlebars, removed the original headset and did God only knows what to the original fork! Now it's all intertwined in some unholy, unoriginal, slap- it- together, home -job union between Schwinn and Phillips and it's complete with Schwinn Hunt Wilde silver plastic streamers!

AIIEEEEHHHH!

It's like they wanted Schwinn handlebars in this bike and they changed headsets to pull it off. The headsets are in the bike but not all the way and they must have been delighted that this perversion worked purely by chance.

It works, it turns and is not sloppy, but I say: Danger Will Robinson! when I look at this. I will photograph this before we anesthisize the bike.
Excuse me, but what is wrong with Phillip's handlebars? What is wrong with keeping it original?
Well...
the bike is being prepped for sugery. I'll perform a headset transplant and with an original stem and Phillips handlebars to be installed I'll try to get it back to original.
I'm just concerned about the original Phillips fork's steer tube.
Missing a chainguard too.... and why, pray tell is there black electrical tape holding the bike in second gear? Get that tape off of the original Hercumatic gear shifter!
The crap people do (or in this case) did to their bikes!

By the way, a brief note about old Phillips bicycle headsets.
They were beautiful.

Hard races, all magnificently chromed used small loose bearings. So sweetly turning the bike is more of a joy to turn and steer than any Raleigh.
Plus, Phillips headsets are 24 t.p.i. too.
The fork is off center. That's not good. Fearing damage due to wrong parts shoved in the bike . I'll keep you posted to the bike's status following sugery.

Another bike had one rear coaster brake Sturmey hub in a alloy aluminum 26 X 1 .75 X 2 German rim. I was going to go for that but there waas only one rim the other was mismatched and the braking surface would not take a rim brake due to original grooves in it. It was only really usuable with a coaster brake and I do not use coaster brakes.

I tell you, if there were two of these rims, with proper sides for rim brakes. I would take the whole bike just for those rims.
The shop was neat, the buying experience was cool.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   It's ok, I'm here now.l posted by jason on 7/5/2005 at 6:06:42 AM

now that I have the bike bug real bad, none of my friends like to show me the latest strange wiggly chopper bike thing that they may have made for fear that I will start gibbering about what they have done to some brand of bike that they never heard of. now I collect department store bikes to trade two for one in order to save a good one. jason

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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   It's ok, I'm here now.l posted by Kurt K. on 7/5/2005 at 3:07:00 PM
Perhaps the bike was involved in a front-end accident at one time, Chris?

Congratulations on your find - would like to see photos if possible.

-Kurt
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   It's ok, I'm here now.l posted by Kurt K. on 7/5/2005 at 3:07:11 PM
Perhaps the bike was involved in a front-end accident at one time, Chris?

Congratulations on your find - would like to see photos if possible.

-Kurt
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: It's ok, I'm here now.l posted by sam on 7/8/2005 at 2:51:51 AM
Seems I remember some --T.D.Cross on a phillips bike I sold---maybe the headset or BB---not sure. T.D.Cross bits are good quality---wish I had more---sam
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Retro Raleighs posted by: Kurt K. on 7/4/2005 at 9:35:43 PM
Not sure if anyone has noticed, but RetroRaleighs.com now leads straight to Sheldon's main site. Has anyone inquired to Sheldon as to it's temporary (hopefully) absence?

-Kurt
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Retro Raleighs posted by jack on 7/5/2005 at 6:36:47 AM
Kurt, yes I started noticing it a week or more ago and I agree with you, I don't like it either. The fine print I read is that the site originator bailed-out and Sheldon took over. Well, better than losing site but Sheldon had enough already!
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Retro Raleighs posted by Kurt K. on 7/5/2005 at 3:04:25 PM
I might contact Sheldon later on this week - I'm willing to take it over if he's too busy to handle it.

-Kurt
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Retro Raleighs posted by Kurt K. on 7/8/2005 at 1:38:57 AM
It's back - Sheldon's web host were adding new servers to their system.

-Kurt
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   What is this? posted by: CAlvin on 7/3/2005 at 9:21:49 PM
Hello,
I am looking for some information on a Rod brake Raleigh Superbe. The serial number is: NS9010439. I've been to other sites but no help. It has an enclosed chainguard, a 1954 Rear dynamo 3 speed hub and rod brakes.
It does have locking forks.
Thanks
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   What is this? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 7/4/2005 at 11:05:21 AM
Well... you're in the right place... here you will find charts for that serial number (hopefully it will be in the chart) in addition to numerous anglo-velocipede afficionados.

As to a '54 Superbe with rod-brakes, rear dyno and enclosed chaincase.... there may be a few here that are envious (myself at least... ;-)

Also, check out the links section here. They will point you to outstanding references such as Sheldon Brown's website and http://www.retroraleighs.com

Sounds like a wonderful machine! ENJOY it!

Regards,

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   What is this? posted by CAlvin on 7/4/2005 at 1:35:55 PM
Thanks Larry,
I have checked the sites but they didn't have what I was looking for. I feel sorry for Sheldon. When you're the best, everyone wants you.
I didn't find the B66 saddle but found a nice Champion 's' Brooks saddle.
I included a image that might help.
Thanks again!


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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   What is this? posted by CAlvin on 7/4/2005 at 1:36:35 PM
Thanks Larry,
I have checked the sites but they didn't have what I was looking for. I feel sorry for Sheldon. When you're the best, everyone wants you.
I didn't find the B66 saddle but found a nice Champion 's' Brooks saddle.
Next month I'll have a website to show my bikes off.
Thanks again!
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: What is this? posted by Warren on 7/4/2005 at 11:30:51 PM
You did go to this link Calvin?

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/superbe54.html

If I could only had one roadster, this might be it.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   What is this? posted by Calvin on 7/7/2005 at 2:10:27 AM
Thanks Warren,
Wow, my bike is the same but a women's version (same as teh guru's). The difference of mine is a 3 speed rear dyno, missing a cable guide wheel, rear carrier and battery holder. I'm going to try to bring her up to snuff.
Too bad my saddle is a 'Champion' 'S'.
Thanks for your help!
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