ENGLISH ROADSTERS:†††Phillips Bicycle - Help-me please posted by: Marcelo Afornali - Brazil on 11/29/2006 at 8:33:48 PM
Hi friends:
I need information on the year of manufacture of a Phillips bicycle number the frame is F071563 and coaster hub Perry. Somebody could indicate a catalogue or something similar? Help-me please. I need help.
Reply for afornali@bicicletasantigas.com.br
Kind Regards from Brazil
Marcelo Afornali
www.bicicletasantigas.com.br
Curitiba - Paraná - Brazil
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:†††Phillips Bicycle - Help-me please posted by Bill on 11/29/2006 at 10:31:41 PM
Marcelo, I have a fairly complete run of Phillips catalogues from 1933-1960 (most inherited from an uncle who worked for them at Smethwick) and several Phillips roadsters (pre-war and post-war) and I can tell you that dating them is tricky business. There is no systematic list of serial numbers that I know of. Looking at the components sometimes helps. My post-war export roadster (ca. 1952) has a decal on the head tube rather than a headbadge (perhaps to save weight on shipping). The rear hub has a Bayliss-Wiley free wheel and my sense is that the frames were exported and all sorts of components added once they reached the New World. Pre-war cycles fitted with coaster brakes at the Birmingham plants were manufactured by Eadie. Your coaster brake does not appear in any of the catalogues I've looked at and I've thumbed through hundreds of pages before writing this note. Enjoy riding the bike in any case and never ask a woman her age.
Cheers
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:†††Phillips Bicycle - Help-me please posted by Marcelo on 11/30/2006 at 6:54:56 AM
Hi Bill: Interesting its grateful rank and for the aid. Perhaps if to want to see the photos that I have of this Phillips, I sending for email and can help more me. The bicycle is very good, but restoration, due to the fact needs to be without original painting and with the galvanoplasty not very good. However, I want to preserve the maximum of its original standard of plant. If to want to see the photos, is the disposal. Below of badge, the original color age borde‚ux. Thanks. Marcelo Afornali.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:†††My "New Raleigh" posted by: Michelle on 11/28/2006 at 7:27:31 PM
Well, I got the bike I really wanted, ebay, what a great world we live in. Anyway, I love the bike, and after some cleaning, and soon, some new tires, I realize there are a few things I'm not sure about. I can't find a date anywhere on the bike. I think it's from the early 70's but the Archer hub says nothing. It's a Colt model, can't find nothing on that either. Now the gears change, but there is a clunk each time, Normal? Also, I have trouble telling 2nd from 1st. Tune up? Hmmmm. Any advise would be welcome.


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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: My posted by Neal on 11/29/2006 at 8:03:05 AM
I'd guess 1973 or so, Michelle, based on the decals and the self-adjusting brake levers. Sometimes the date codes get worn off of SA hubs, but you should find three digits indicting month and year, e.g., 74 6 means June 1974.

On the clunk and auto-shifting, the gear cable might just be out of adjustment. Sheldon Brown has some good advice on the topic: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer.html#adjustment.

Nice find!

Neal
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: My posted by Michelle on 11/29/2006 at 6:56:48 PM
Thanks Neal, It's strange, not a single digit on the bike to indicate the date, frame, hub, no where, but, whoever built it, signed it!! By the kick stand, go figure. I think the hub needs some oil, it has a loud bright tick like the site said. I will try the oil and then take it to get adjusted at a bike shop that is recommended by some of the locals.


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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: My posted by Warren on 11/30/2006 at 6:44:06 AM
A ticking sound can also mean problems with the hub bearings. Have it looked at.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: My posted by Neal on 11/30/2006 at 12:22:52 PM
A wild idea: Make sure that the kickstand isn't sticking out enough so that the left crank arm "ticks" against it on every revolution. That's often the source of "ticking" sounds.

Neal
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: My posted by Chris on 12/3/2006 at 2:06:30 PM
And don't overtighten the nut to fix that problem because you'll mash the bike frame. The old, heavy, American made WALD kickstand with it's crappy finish has been an excellent contributor of mashed frame tubing in the kickstand area on many many bikes. The shops got accustomed to having to tighten all those British kickstands and then the Wald was available and the way that the Wald kickstand was made, it was the perfect device to ruin the frame, actually mash it down. I like the current kickstands that mount on the rear of the bike.

Mashing the frame in the bottom bracket area ( actually the area of the kickstand does not lead to frame failure it's just a terrible thing to do to a nice bike and I would rather lean the bike up than drag the heavy all steel Wald kickstand everywhere I go.
First thing I do when I get another bike is remove that sucker! Then point to that mashed area and negiotate that price down as I point to that damaged area. Ever notice how the end tip of the Wald kickstand always has this rusty tip on the end? Overall, I like The WALD company's products except that infamous kickstand.

Also, If it's a British bike it should have all British componet parts on itbut mainly it's the heavy weight, and how you can't tighten it unless you mash the frame tubing.
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AGE / VALUE:†††28 wheeled camelback english, not raleigh posted by: Hollis on 11/28/2006 at 4:29:32 PM
Anyone know of any 28 inch wheeled British bikes with a camel back frame. Frame mount pump brackets, oil port in bottom bracket, brass sleeved bottom bracket!!!. badge missing but held with two rivets. rear triangle BOLTS TOGETHER, was originally black with gold made in england on the very top of the top tube. Might had a RESILION HUB and Dunlop rims. Thanks

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   RE:AGE / VALUE: 28 wheeled camelback english, not raleigh posted by sam on 11/29/2006 at 9:13:34 AM
Lots of brands built this frame.Hercules/Phillips etc.even though the frame looks camelbacked or humped the top tube really drops just ahead of the seat,this allowed a smaller rider to ride a larger frame(or wheeled) bike.
The oil port and brass sleev make me beleave it's a quality frame.Maybe others can add or know what brands sleeved their BBs---sam
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AGE / VALUE:†††Raleigh bike posted by: Don on 11/28/2006 at 3:56:17 PM
Hi, i'm just hoping to get some insight on a bike that
I purchased at an estate sale,(The Raleigh Nottingham, England 3 speed Bike)before I list it on ebay.
On the hub it says - England, then Sturmey Archer and it has the numbers, 71 11 (I'm assumeing that means Nov. 1971)
The gears are Sturmey Archer and the brakes are Shimano.
It has a leather bag behind a seat with 3 small air holes (original)It also has Raleigh on the tires as well some
other words and #'s
The entire bike appears to original as nothing looks like it has ever been changed.
It is dirty, has very little/minor dents in fenders,
some surface scratches and a little surface rust on the wheels that I believe should clean up pretty good,
and more than anything it could use a good cleaning.
Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance,
Don!

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   RE:AGE / VALUE:†††Raleigh bike posted by Don on 11/29/2006 at 8:59:32 AM
I said the brakes are Shimano,
but Actually only the rear brake is,
as it has been replaced. The front brake
is original and it has the red Raliegh
emblem on it!
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Raleigh bike posted by Neal on 11/29/2006 at 4:22:46 PM
Sounds like a Raleigh Sports 3-speed. What sort of info are you looking for? If it's value, that'll depend on color, size, whether it's a gent's or lady's frame, condition. Pics would help.

Neal
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:†††Phillips Bicycle - Help-me please posted by: Marcelo Afornali on 11/28/2006 at 3:51:44 PM
Hi friends:
I need information on the year of manufacture of a Phillips bicycle. Somebody could indicate a catalogue or something similar? Help-me please.
Reply for afornali@bicicletasantigas.com.br
Kind Regards from Brazil
Marcelo Afornali
www.bicicletasantigas.com.br
Curitiba - Paraná - Brazil

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