ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Please help a Raleigh newcomer posted by: Jess Leber on 1/23/2006 at 9:16:40 PM
I would really appreciate your help with a Raleigh question, please. I've been in the market for an old Raleigh 3-speed since I found a 1971 Sports for my wife, and fixed it up for her as a present. Now I have the bug, and have been looking for a lrger (23" at least) bike for myself. I've finally found what might be a reasonable priced 1969 Raleigh 3-speed for sale. The person selling it doesn't know much about Raleighs, but he tells me that it says "Riviera" on the top tube. I'm going to go see the bike tonight, but I'm worried that I might be wasting my time and will find it to be some weird knock-off, since I can't find anything about a Raleigh "Riviera". ANy info would be great. Thanks very much.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Please help a Raleigh newcomer posted by Jess Leber on 1/24/2006 at 3:19:12 AM
No need to waste any time pondering this one -- it was a Frankenstein of a bike. While it was loosly based on a Raleigh, I think that it would have made the UN proud with all the different nations represented in its parts. Thanks anyway.
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Please help a Raleigh newcomer posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 1/24/2006 at 10:30:11 AM
Hmmm.. a Riviera. Well, I've not heard of that model either. So I would have only ventured a guess as to it's being a slightly different sports-like machine akin to the LTD-2, etc.

As to it's "Cultural Diversity" components wise..... well, perhaps it's not overtly original.

Either way, do keep your eyes open for the Sports you seek. One place I used to have considerable success finding machines such as these would be at Salvation Army thrift stores.

My last find at one was a nearly immaculate '71 Holland Built Raleigh LTD-3. Cost me all of $5. :-)

Happy Hunting!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Please help a Raleigh newcomer posted by Mike on 1/27/2006 at 8:22:40 PM
No great loss there. Set your sights on a legit all English-made Raleigh from the 70s. The 70s sports are decent quality and still relatively cheap. I bought a full 23" frame Bronze Green Sports in very good to excellent condition for $30 on ebay. With shipping the cost still only ran to $70 total. I've done quite a few period upgrades on it and couldn't be much happier with the performance thusfar. It's rock solid.


I will add, however, that once you do get one learn to fix it up. I have had spotty problems with 2 or my 3 local bike shops. One put the front wheel on backwards. The other didn't seem to know much about these things. The third did quite well with it. Go for the full Raleigh though and not a lesser brand though. You won't regret the wait.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lamps? posted by: Mike on 1/23/2006 at 5:12:49 PM
Hi, I'm currently looking at replacing my battery powered lamp with a tire generator lamp (dynohub sets are very expensive I've found). Does anyone have experience with a generator set made by a company called "Universal". They generally carry black labels on the generator and are 12v 6w items. I saw one on sale for $20. It had the proper chrome lights and a small black rear light. Thusfar I've had little or no luck locating usable vintage sets that don't require a lot of money or a lot of work.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lamps? posted by Matthew on 1/23/2006 at 7:50:23 PM
Hi Mike,

Have you tried riding with one of these things on your bike? Its like towing a truck. If the roller doesn't sit right on the tyre you'll end up covered in shards of rubber. Long term a wheel with a dyno hub in it is the better and cheaper option.

Matthew - shedding light?
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Lamps? posted by Mike on 1/24/2006 at 2:47:14 AM
Are you talking about this particular brand or roller generators in general?

I have 2 bikes with roller generators on them and both do fairly well. I have a Union on my DL-1 and it works quite well. I do notice some difference friction when it's on, but's it's an older generator now so it doesn't roll perfectly well. I've not been unhappy with my generators though. I'm really asking about this specific brand of lamp set.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lamps? posted by David on 1/24/2006 at 3:27:57 AM
I always disliked the bottle generators because of their friction. When I finally got a Dynohub I was thrilled because there's no noticeable drag. Sturmey's now making Dynohubs again (inc one with an integral drum brake), Shimano has one, and SRAM has one that's compatible with their disc brake too. Anything new will be expensive, but you will wind up very pleased with this type of generator.
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lamps? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 1/24/2006 at 10:35:08 AM
Hmmm... not familiar with the brand of gen light setup. I have an original Rampar lighting system (bottle gennie type) on my DL-1. It works well but does add considerable drag. A goal is to get a Sports or Superbe with the dyno.

What is amazing are some of the Xenon battery operated units. They throw an immense amount of light and operate of 4 AA batteries. I have one on my Rat Fink and I keep rechargeable cells in it. It works wonderfully well and of course functions if you are stopped as well as whilst rolling.

Of course it looks like the consummate anachronism affixed to an English bike... but pops off and on easily... and sometimes function wins out over form, eh?

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lamps? posted by Dick in FL on 1/24/2006 at 11:01:23 PM
I'm with Larry .... function over form. Although I have two Raleighs with Dynohubs, I find myself eschewing them because each must be lifted off of ceiling hooks. That's when you begin to lament the weight penalty of a hub alternator. Over the years I have come to respect and subsequently acquire several of the Schwinn-approved Sobitez light kits. Unlike the Dynohubs, these use the bicycle frame as a common ground. Neither the Dynohub nor the Sobitez throw enough light to satisfy me, but they are good backups for extended night rides. My main lighting comes from Cateye LED lights powered by rechargeables.

A warning: Avoid the Backtrails light kit from Target. It's the one with the faux mesh over the lens. The knurled wheel that engages the tire is screwed on with a right-hand thread. It will dependably unscrew itself and disappear in the gutter within the first 100 yards of use.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lamps? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 1/25/2006 at 10:23:48 AM
Thanks for the heads up on that particular lighting system Dick. Just so happens I have one affixed to my dog's bicycle. I will ensure that the "wandering drivewheel" is affixed with somd loctite on the threads. Though I will say, I've used it on occaision sans incident... so far.

Oddly enough... it doesn't seem to throw a lot of light....

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Lamps? posted by PAUL V on 1/25/2006 at 10:30:01 PM
THIS MAYBE A LITTLE LEFT FIELD BUT I HAD TROUBLES WITH MY GEN SETUP ON MY PEUGEOT FOLDER SO I PULLED APART THE REAR LIGHT AND FOUND THAT IF I CUT DOWN ONE OF THE CHEAP TINY L.E.D LIGHTS I COULD MOUNT IT INSIDE THE SHELL.QUITE HAPPY WITH THIS I TRIED THE FRONT AND FOR A TOTAL OF $8.50 I HAD TWO VERY BRIGHT AND CHEAP TO RUN LIGHTS.OF COURSE I LEFT THE BOTTLE ON AND ALL THE WIRING AND NO ONE KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE.WITH TIRES FOR THIS SIZE WHEEL BECOMING EXPENSIVE I WAS NOT TO KEEN ON CHEWING THEM UP FOR THE SAKE OF LOOKING AUTHENTIC.BY THE WAY THEY MAKE GREAT COMMUTING BIKES WITH THEIR DOUBLE RACKS AND FOLDABLITY.
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Lamps? posted by Dick in FL on 1/26/2006 at 4:48:49 AM
VERY clever adaptation of LED's! Here's a tip back at ya: After carefully aligning the axis of the bottle generator along a radius of the wheel, stretch an appropriately sized grommet over the knurled wheel. Smooth AND quiet!
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Lamps? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 1/26/2006 at 2:25:34 PM
My DL-1 was equpped with a "Grommetized" bottle generator. While it was smooth and quiet, the size of the grommet actually increased the O.D. of the generator drive wheel significantly enough as to impact the RPM of the generator. Hence, one would have to roll faster to get the same amount of light.

I took the grommet off and it made consdirable difference. However, I do like the smooth and quiet idea... so perhaps I will adapt a more appropriately sized grommet... or similar contrivance... over the generator's drivewheel.

I like the LED idea as well! :-)

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Lamps? posted by Dick in Fl on 1/26/2006 at 7:04:01 PM
Larry,

You are quite correct regarding the impact of a grommet on the effective diameter. Since my original rubbing wheel was lost, I replaced it (after a *long* search) with a suitable bottle cap (nominally 3/4") anticipating the addition of a grommet. I had to bring the bottle generator to the hardware store to fit a couple of nuts to the generator spindle. Then I epoxied them into the bottle cap using a compatible machine screw as an armature/fixture and installed the cured assembly with Loctite.

Conjecture warning: I suspect this generator was originally designed for a home market with left side of the road driving (Japan?) and later adapted for America with the customary absence of study or testing.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lamps? posted by David on 1/27/2006 at 3:12:00 AM
Of course the Dynohubs give full power at lower speeds with small wheels. A dyno setup on a DL1 may not give good light because the wheels turn slowly. A bottle generator always turns proportional to your speed regardless of wheel size.
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AGE / VALUE:   I think ya'll will enjoy the photos on this one posted by: sam on 1/22/2006 at 5:31:57 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUPERB-OLD-VINTAGE-1933-RALEIGH-BICYCLE-DECO-PERIOD_W0QQitemZ7212820920QQcategoryZ7298QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
would be nice to find one of these at a yard sale!---sam
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   I think ya'll will enjoy the photos on this one posted by Matthew on 1/23/2006 at 7:47:24 PM
Its good looking but neither original nor totally restored. None of the photos are particularly close up and the price is aimed (sorry folks have to tell the truth) at foriegn bidders. Even a good 1930's Raleigh in a specialist auction would struggle to get over £120 (sterling) over here. A fully restored model wouldn't cost you much more. This is a pricey gem and the cynic in me says 'Did the original owner also ask that you only sell it on eBay to some body nice once you've restored it?' But then the cynic in me isn't always right.

Matthew - cynically
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   I think ya'll will enjoy the photos on this one posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 1/24/2006 at 10:25:40 AM
Perhaps paraphrasing here... as I've seen it stated a couple of ways... but... according to George Bernars Shaw:

"The gift of accurate observation is often referred to as cynicism by those that do not possess it."

As to the machine in question... yeah, it's nice but I won't be bidding. ;-)

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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AGE / VALUE:   CCM bicycle on ebay/not mine etc posted by: sam on 1/18/2006 at 4:13:31 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Bicycle-CCM-Flyte-1937_W0QQitemZ6598321328QQcategoryZ420QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Wish I had one! sam
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM bicycle on ebay/not mine etc posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 1/20/2006 at 1:10:20 AM
Interesting.... I wonder what it will go for. Obviously missing stuff like mudguards, etc., but the frame and chainwheel is there for certain.

Good catch spotting this one Sam!

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM bicycle on ebay/not mine etc posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 1/25/2006 at 10:19:19 AM
Wow... I know it's a rare machine... but for $709 I would expect it to be complete with mudguards, etc. Or at least a headbadge. ;-)

I guess it brought in what the high bidder felt it was worth.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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MISC:   Larz Anderson National Bike Show: Sunday August 14th posted by: Peter Naiman on 1/17/2006 at 4:04:45 PM
We're holding 10th annual show at the Museum of Transportation at 15 West Newton Street., Brookline, MA. Starting time will be at approximately 9:00AM and run until 3:00PM with set up at 8:00AM, with the usual scenic Vintage Ride through the paths of the Emerald Necklace which runs through Boston and Brookline. Please put this on your schedule, as we plan to have a great time again this year. More information on the show to follow.

If folks are interested, I'll put together a swap meet close by as there are a few venues within 10-15 minutes of the Museum of Transportation grounds. Last years swap that Linda Pernice tried organizing in Watertown, didn't take place for a number of reasons, but if I can get enough early support, I'll put together a swap meet which will be well attended if I get the word out to everyone on my growing mailing list. So if your interested in a swap meet please write and let me know offlist.

Best regards,
Peter Naiman
Glendale, WI
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