ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1949 Raleigh Lenton colours? posted by: Bob Giess on 3/24/2006 at 1:45:54 PM
Greetings all, I've just picked up a 1949 Raleigh Lenton Model 28 frame for restoration - the rest of the bike was unoriginal. I've traced the first owner! who said it was "polychromatic green with white lining. Does anybody have one of these in that colour who could maybe send me picture for a paint match?? Thanks Bob

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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1949 Raleigh Lenton colours? posted by Neal on 3/25/2006 at 6:03:06 PM
Bob, I have a '49 Clubman frame in that color, but paint condition is very rough. You're best bet is to take a look at Peter Kohler's '48 Lenton Clubman and '49 Clubman on his Wool Jersey site: http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/Peter-Kohler-Cycle-Collection. Beautiful pictures there!

Neal
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1949 Raleigh Lenton colours? posted by steve/a1svc/central pa on 3/25/2006 at 10:24:51 PM
bob...raleigh polychromatic green is an olive green..first used in 1946 on the clubman...polychromatic means it changes color depending on available light..it is a commercial enamel...when we are using that color on an authentic restoration..we have achieved excellent quality by sourcing the paint from one of the original suppliers...crosbie coatings...england....they know what you want when you spec raleigh polychromatic green(olive) from that era...a striking color..hope this helps your restoration...steve/central pa/usa
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1949 Raleigh Lenton colours? posted by P.C. Kohler on 3/30/2006 at 7:15:49 PM
The colour for the 1949 Raleigh Lenton was close to the metallic green that the c. 1970 International was painted. or close enough.

Actually "polychromatic" means it was any 'ol paint colour Raleigh wanted it to be.. trying to match all this and make sense of Raleigh paint is enough to make one go back to the discourse on lycra and spandex. My advice on that: wear wool.

P.C. Kohler
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AGE / VALUE:   1974 Western Flyer ( worth ) posted by: Paul on 3/23/2006 at 2:31:02 PM
Ihave 2 1974 Western Flyer 5 speed bikes tire size 26 x 1 3/8 One has 500 miles and the other has 300 miles both are are all original except for 2 tires being replaced.Both are green In color. Both are In good shape.And I still have the receipt when I bought them.Any Information on thies bikes are very much welcomed. Who made the bikes ? there worth If any ? Thank you
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: 1974 Western Flyer ( worth ) posted by sam on 3/23/2006 at 2:59:31 PM
Western Flyers---the Western Autos stores brand of bicycles were built by just about everybody.Yours is most likely a columbia(U.S.A.) built bike.Phillips(England) also built WFs.
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FOR SALE:   Parting out '74 Carmine Red Sprite posted by: Kurt K. on 3/22/2006 at 1:16:59 AM
I figure I'll never get around to this project, so I'm willing to part with this 1974, Carmine Red Raleigh Sprite. See photo:

http://www.jaysmarine.com/1974_Raleigh_Sprite.jpg

Will part out or sell whole.

By the way, You may note that the rims, the front in particular, are quite rusty. Therefore, if anyone is interested, I have a spare pair of very nice 32/40h 27" Sturmey-Archer Endrick rims that I'll sell as well. Mind you though, the originals on this bike are 36/36h.

Interested? Questions? Buzz me at cudak888@aol.com. Don't be shy, email away.

P.S.: You can save yourself shipping costs and pick up whatever you want if you're local to the Miami, Florida area.

Take care,

-Kurt


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   RE:FOR SALE:   Parting out '74 Carmine Red Sprite posted by Kurt K. on 3/22/2006 at 1:24:52 AM
P.S.: Not up for grabs are the pedals or rear reflector. I don't particularly want to part with the saddle, but I will if the offer is right.

-Kurt
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AGE / VALUE:   ROYAL CROWN?? posted by: JOHNNY C on 3/19/2006 at 11:12:14 PM
DID HERCULES MAKE A ENGLISH BIKE CALLED ,ROYAL CROWN? IT LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE A HERCULES I USE TO HAVE,FENDERS AND ALL LOOKED THE SAME?ANY THOUGHTS?
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ROYAL CROWN?? posted by Ed on 4/3/2006 at 3:31:13 AM
I had a Royal Crown Bicycle it was definately not a Raleigh. This was a Phillips style frame. The headbadge was D. P Harris. This was a hardware distributor.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ROYAL CROWN?? posted by Geoff Rogers on 3/20/2006 at 6:02:35 PM
Royal Crown was one of Raleigh Industies' many "B-grade" machines, along with Hercules (after Raleigh bought that company, way back when--who knows this info? I know somebody knows the date). I have one from 1956, I think, a lady's model. Would you like another one for your collection? Mine is for sale, quite cheap. It needs the full clean and regrease job to be a good dependable rider but it isn't bad.
What year is yours?
Geoff
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ROYAL CROWN?? posted by JOHNNY on 3/21/2006 at 2:53:43 AM
THANKS FOR THE INFO. I ACTUALLY JUST SAW IT CHAINED OUTSIDE A THRIFT STORE HERE IN TOWN THAT I USUALLY HUNT GOOD FINDS.NOT THAT DAY THOUGH. ENGLISH BIKES ARE A RARE FIND AROUND HERE.ITS A LADIES BIKE TOO.ONCE AGAIN THANKS.
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AGE / VALUE:   Matched Pair of 1954 Raleigh Superbe's posted by: Don Ploss on 3/19/2006 at 8:42:22 PM
A few years back I picked up a pair of very original, very complete Superbe's. These are a mens and a ladies, 4 speed w/dynamo hub, fully lighted, with the battery tube intact. The bikes are in very clean original, un-restored condition, and have their pumps, and fork locks with keys. I have the original sales literature stamped "A. Gagg and sons, Nottingham, England", which is where the bikes were originally purchased. I also have the Sturmey brochure for the hubs, and the original multi-tools. The only non-original parts are the tires.

The question is how much should I insure these for? I have recently moved to an area susceptible to flooding and think separate coverage might make sense.

Thanks in advance for any and all input.

Don
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Matched Pair of 1954 Raleigh Superbe's posted by Matthew on 3/19/2006 at 10:04:03 PM
Don,
where are you? Roughly, geographically? UK USA Oz SA? Thsi may make a difference to value of your bicycles because we know that Superbes don't fetch the same price both sides of the pond. If you look around in the UK you can get a rideable complete Superbe for less than £50. I paid a tenner for mine. However in the US of A the smae machine would be worth considerably more. I guess other continents would have differing values for the same bicycle too?

Matthew - bicycles are a relative thing, close to you!
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Matched Pair of 1954 Raleigh Superbe's posted by Geoff Rogers on 3/20/2006 at 5:59:00 PM
If they are in nice, original shape, with decent paint, decals and chrome, I would insure them for at least $350 each, and maybe considerably more. If they have gearcases, nice original Brooks leather saddles, bells and pumps, they are worth more than if those bits are not present, but originality, condition and original specification all count. Superbes were the top of the line Raleigh roadsters, and at some times in Raleigh's history, the Superbe was as costly as their top line lightweight machines. These are lovely machines, built to last forever with the right care. English cycles from the fifties were simply the best. Keep them dry and enjoy them!
Geoff Rogers
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Matched Pair of 1954 Raleigh Superbe's posted by Don Ploss on 3/27/2006 at 12:39:05 PM
Matthew:

The bikes are currently located on Florida's Southwest coast, hence my concerns about water and flood damage. Thank you for your reply.

Don
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