ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Higgins Hurricane Ultralite? posted by: Peter Whelan on 3/4/2006 at 5:04:47 PM
Hi, interested in any info with regard to the Higgins Hurricane Ultralite. I bought this frame for about £50 a few years back as an old bike to knock around on liked it but didnt know what it was. A bike shop tried to buy it off me and began to realise that it was an interesting frame. After a few years i sent it off to get it restored and just got it back today - it looks stunning in British Racing green with gold decals, next step is where i go from here. Would love to hear any views from the forum and advice as to how old it is and where i should go from here or whether i mix old and new and use it as a training bike?
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Higgins Hurricane Ultralite? posted by Peter WHELAN on 3/4/2006 at 5:20:37 PM
PS i should add that this is a Higgins from London not a JC Higgins
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Higgins Hurricane Ultralite? posted by Matthew on 3/4/2006 at 6:47:27 PM
Hi there Peter,

You might like to try posting your message on the vintage lightweight message board as I think that's what your old beauty really is. It sounds like a lovely piece of kit and I'd be inclined to seek period peices of equipment to go with it. Do enjoy it, the best bit is riding!

Matthew - hiding from the snow.

Ps I've still been riding this week in minus temps, Brrrrr.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Higgins Hurricane Ultralite? posted by maurice on 3/12/2006 at 9:12:05 PM
in the 50s the higgins shop was near crystal palace,mine was equipped with gnutti components and and nisi rims, would like to see a picture of yours
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AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Sportsman, English? posted by: Matt on 3/3/2006 at 2:23:54 AM
I bought a late 60's or early 70's huffy sportsman on E-bay, for $30. It was garaged for 40 years, and is in near mint condition. I'm trying to date it but it is confusing. No sturmey archer hub, it has a US patent number, and it has a grip shifter, I believe shimano 333. The 1 piece crank says made in France, the pedals Made in Germany. All are original,the frame is not lugged, but crappily tig welded. Was it built in Ohio? Bottom bracket has two numbers, 19696 and 0W149300. I'm guessing built in June 1969, but I'm confused by all of the foreign parts. when did Raleigh stop building the sportsman for Huffy?
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Sportsman, English? posted by Spike on 3/4/2006 at 12:27:16 AM
As I've said many times I'm no expert but::
I have a bunch of bikes using Shimano 3 spd. hubs and at this point I can't be sure of any Huffys but I can state for sure Raleigh built bikes are my favorites and I don't have any Raleigh built Huffys.There is a chance I have some 3 speed huffys with Shimano hubs.But will have to wait till a thaw to check.I did a little quick research and it appears the Shimano 3 speed hub appeared about 1979.
I think you can roughly date your bike by the pedals as well.Reflector pedals appeared circa 1970.I can't date spoke or handle bar and under seat reflectors but surely early 70s.And generally speaking these progressed from plain flat pieces to the more angled ornate ones we see today.And fender reflectors went from relatively small to larger ones like the big sturmey archer and Schwinn elongated ones of the 80s.These are all generalities and of course could be modified through the years but should give you an idea where your bike dates.
Regards, Spike

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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Sportsman, English? posted by Kurt K. on 3/4/2006 at 2:04:36 AM
Raleigh stopped building the Sportsman for Huffy by the late '60s, if I'm not mistaken.

Your description is definitely a mid-late '70s Sportsman made by Westfield Manufacturing (a.k.a. Columbia).

A completely different machine then the Raleigh Sports-based machine they are. Mainly good for commuting, they have little collectors value.

-Kurt
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The Sturmey-Archer Hub Archive.... posted by: Kurt K. on 3/3/2006 at 12:21:44 AM
...to end all other Sturmey-Archer hub archives. Enough said.

http://www.sturmey-archerheritage.com/

Bob Hufford on the Schwinn forum alerted me to the site.

Everything S-A is here, including rare variants such as the S2 Kickback hub, never-produced Sturmey-Archer freewheel, and countless ads, bullitens, photographs, etc.

Set aside a few hours for this site. Possibly a whole weekend.

-Kurt
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The Sturmey-Archer Hub Archive.... posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 3/3/2006 at 10:50:41 AM
So, they finally got that up and running. I don't often visit the "new" S/A site... but recall seeing the archive listed as either "coming soon" or "under construction". Thanks for the heads up, Kurt!

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
once again staring at white stuff on the ground and temps in the teens... :-S
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The Sturmey-Archer Hub Archive.... posted by Chris on 3/4/2006 at 5:12:18 AM
Everybody should see this. We have waited years and years to see this collection and I was blown away it is so good.

A major accomplishment.
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AGE / VALUE:   WHERE ARE THE ORIGINAL(PROPER, PERIOD CORRECT, MATCHING AXLE NUTS? posted by: CHRIS on 2/26/2006 at 11:53:42 PM
If you watch carefully you'll notice people selling old vintage cycle hubs on e- bay. If you look close and take notice you'll see a continuing pattern of the hubs being offered without the original- period correct- matching- made by the same maker axle nuts.

Either plain without anything or just with shiny new old stock gripfast track nuts. You know that these are not the same vintage as the tasty old delightful hub being offered.

With good prices paid for sturmey archer wing nuts on e- bay and similar thinking for old track nuts people worldwide are removing the nuts off of the hubs before they photograph the thing for e- bay.

If you watch the chater lea, cyclo, B.H. (British Hub) T.F. Blumfield cycle hub auctions and the rest you'll notice it.

This aggrivates me. I'm muttering darned thing is missing the original nuts.

Another thing to go searching for.

Half looney after finding the matching hub wing nut fittings and then my beloved simichrome polish goes out of stock.

Hello! I have the dancing chain book, and a collection of rebour drawings and pouring over this stuff, I will notice it.
really bothersome, this is.
Another thing. I have no problem overpaying as long as it is new, never used, n.o.s. in the tattered old box. Little sense buying a used part unless I have all the parts to re-build it . No worn ball bearing races for me.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   WHERE ARE THE ORIGINAL(PROPER, PERIOD CORRECT, MATCHING AXLE NUTS? posted by Matthew on 3/1/2006 at 9:24:58 PM
Hi Chris,

My concern is that these parts aren't on a hub that they don't belong to or even sat in a box waiting for the right hub on the right bike. Oh no these wing nuts etc are on a display board in some one's living room and they are dusted from time to time. They are talked about in feigned admiration at dinner parties by folks who would not recognise them if they fell from the sky. If these parts are lucky they are taken to Olde Tyme rallies and displayed for Jo Public to see (but never to touch). Lets keep hub nuts where they belong, on the hubs!

Me I'm happpy with worn out originality but it takes all kinds (of cyclists) to make the pedals go round.

Matthew - Nuts?
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   WHERE ARE THE ORIGINAL(PROPER, PERIOD CORRECT, MATCHING AXLE NUTS? posted by Tom on 3/2/2006 at 4:41:58 AM
I have been a collector of old wing nuts for a few years now. I have a lot of unique singles and some complete sets. Just before Christmas I got a lot of singles from a guy in England and 1 was the missing wing nut to a set of very large early wingnuts. I do buy on Ebay now and then and come up with some nice ones. I have never stripped a hub of wingnuts as I don't have any old hubs that would have had them. I love the look of wing nuts and will collect them for years. If anyone is interested I have some extras to trade. You may have my missing wingnut. oldy57 at mts dot net
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   WHERE ARE THE ORIGINAL(PROPER, PERIOD CORRECT, MATCHING AXLE NUTS? posted by Chris on 3/2/2006 at 6:08:38 PM

Perhaps, the hub never had them in the beginning and that is why we are seeing so many grip fast nuts. That too. Still these things get listed and sold seperately.
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AGE / VALUE:   SA with drum brake posted by: jason on 2/26/2006 at 9:56:55 PM
I just found a 26 inch wheel with a sturmy archer three speed (I think) with a lever actuated drum brake
it says SAW on the logo, and is stamped 80 2
I think it may have come off of a stingray type bike
is there any diagrams of this hub to be had? I want to use it and would like to rebuild it.
also, in my glenns manual it says to replace the pawl springs, but I can't find any, so I have always used the old. any solutions?
last question
there is a raliegh single speed, made in nottingham, with fenders and fair paint but no seat in town. I would guess eightys but it may be older. how much offhand would somthing like that be worth? the owner runs an antique shop and wants 80$ for it. thanks, jason
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   SA with drum brake posted by David on 2/27/2006 at 7:50:25 PM
Your hub is the same internally as the AW described in Glenn's. Pawl springs can be found at www.harriscyclery.com or www.permaco.com (the importer). It's a good idea to replace them; they're cheap.
Do you know the size of this wheel? (I.e. is there a tire on it with the size molded into sidewall)
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   SA with drum brake posted by jason on 3/1/2006 at 11:55:59 PM
thanks david
the tire is pretty bad, looks like it says 26-1.9, can't make out the lettering enough to guess but the tread looks like a tractor tire.
I would love to see the wayt that the brake levers and pulleys on this brake worked, its in the somday Ill put that on something pile.
thanks for the leads on the pawl springs, all the local bike shops think that its crazy to pull them apart and rebuild them so they don't carry anything for them.
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