AGE / VALUE:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/17/2006 at 9:43:52 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7234351153&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Thought it was quite interesting.... 2 days to go.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Matthew on 4/17/2006 at 7:27:39 PM
Yes Larry,

Interesting and from a knowledgable seller too, which makes a pleasant change. Lentons don't pop up too often anywhere. This should make some one a happy cyclist.

Matthew - Easter; too late for lenten?

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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/17/2006 at 8:29:00 PM
Only problem is the drops... I have WAY too many things going on in my neck to be leaned over thus. Do you suppose it would be sacrilegious to swap them out for an inverted set of northroads?????

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - finger crossed in Dingmans Ferry
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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/17/2006 at 8:47:20 PM
Every party has its pooper but let's not get too excited over this one. As the seller rightly points out, this is not the Lenton that "Reg Harris Does His Road Training On". It's really a Robin Hood with dropped 'bars. Indeed, after Raleigh finally put this very down market 2030 tubed "Lenton" out to pasture at the end of 1963, they had enough bits left to rebrand it as a Robin Hood Lenton the next year. But if you're collecting Lentons (and why not?!) this is a must as a "bookend". Trying to find the other "bookend", the 1940 one... well good luck!

P.C. Kohler
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by paul nisula on 4/18/2006 at 12:00:55 AM
Lenton Grand Prix Reg Harris ca 1958 for sale $350.00, all original and good running (except has new rubber), 531 frame, 22 inch, 27X 1 and 1/4 on steel Dunlop rims, Cycle Benelux Derailer, 3 cluster, Williams single up front, Steel SA FM 4 speed close ratio hub, Britannia plastic fenders,Brooks B16, decals are great, graphics even nicer, original drop bars and stem(chrome steel) and original tape. Machine is real nice though not mint, but definitely excellent, will deliver Southern New England area or you pick up South of Boston. Cash or MO buys it. If I ship it will be expensive ($100 to west coast of USA includes disassembly, packing, shipping by UPS and insurance). Thanks for looking! paul
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Anyone else watching this one? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/18/2006 at 12:12:22 AM
LOL, yes much to your point Mr. Kohler, this machine is not exactly in the same league as say... oh... the ones that have the priveledge of being in your possession.... ;-) but it certainly has a bit of charm in it's own right. Seeriously... it's 43 years old! And being what it is... it certainly would not put an overtly large "curb ding" in the ole wallet... but then... this is Ebay... so one never knows really.

Alas, I've the same issues with the 21" frame machines... they're just a wee might small and when I adjust the seat and hanlebars according to my size... well... Let's just say that I'm much better suited to a 23" frame.

Still... I'm quite tempted... as to save the krating and shipping fee, I might be willing to drive to the sellors location... especially if he has other interesting machines. I already have my DL-1 (the LARGE frame :-) but would love to get my grubby little fingers on a nice Superbe....

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   '51 Sports progress posted by: Kurt K. on 4/16/2006 at 5:47:48 PM
The replacement front axle for the '51 arrived yesterday (thanks Tom!) and - well, the photos speak for themselves:

http://www.jaysmarine.com/Raleigh_1951_Sports_1.jpg
http://www.jaysmarine.com/Raleigh_1951_Sports_2.jpg

Forgive the poor quality. The sun is blaring down today, and I didn't care to fry under it while taking the pictures.

P.S.: In addition to the list of parts in my earlier post, I'm looking for a pair (two pairs even better!) of brand-new 26X1-3/8" tubes with full-metal valve stems. The two that I have in the Sports now are reliable up to a point only.

-Kurt
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   '51 Sports progress posted by Larrr "Boneman" Bone on 4/17/2006 at 12:17:13 PM
>Forgive the poor quality.

Looks OK to me? Machine is looking good!

>The sun is blaring down today, and I didn't care to fry
>under it while taking the pictures.

And here I thought I had problemse with last night's overnight temp of..... 34 degrees.

Actually... I did see where y'all are having near-record high temps down there of late. So send some of it up to us freezin' folks in the Northeast, willya?

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   '51 Sports progress posted by Kurt K. on 4/17/2006 at 3:12:38 PM
Thank you!

>So send some of it up to us freezin' folks in the Northeast, willya?

Sure - but should I send it corked, in a jar, or photographed?

-Kurt
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   '51 Sports progress posted by Matthew on 4/17/2006 at 7:32:59 PM
Kurt,

Line a jam jar (container for fruity preserve) with brown paper and seal the sunshine in there, bubble wrap around the jar will keep the warmth in. We've had 'proper' Norfolk skies here at home. Big skies with plenty going on, clouds sun, drama etc. Even a few spots of rain. Typical English Easter weather.

Matthew - Easter eggcentric.
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   '51 Sports progress posted by Kurt K. on 4/19/2006 at 1:15:08 PM
Completed as requested!

;-)

-Kurt
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   New Hudson posted by: Tom on 4/16/2006 at 2:40:27 PM
Yesterday I was at a closeout auction of an old bike shop. There was a lot of mountain bikes and some road bikes. In the loot was a few 3 speed bikes, 2 ladies Eatons gliders rough cond, Dunelt, New Hudson, Sekine, CCM etc. I saw the Dunelt was in good shape, 1967, gold, chrome fenders, all transfers were there, I bid and won for $12.50. Nice bike for cheap. I also saw the New Hudson in very nice shape but it was in a long row of bikes piled against each other. Couldn't get a good check on mechanicals but it looked very clean. I bid and won it for $5.00. Now when I get it to the spot where I placed all my winnings I see it is in almost NOS shape. I was bidding on other stuff so I would check closer when I get it home. At home I see there is a price tag on handlebars but faded so far I don't see a price. Could this bike be NOS. I inspect everything and under the layers of dust it is mint, NOS, never been in sunlight, always in the store's storage room. I have been to this shop before and it was not there in the store area. The bike is a New Hudson Sports, blue with perfect transfers, box lining in gold, tyres are whitewalls, rims are 26 x 1 3/8" Sturmey Archers, hub is an AW 1971, drop bars like a lot of Canadian sold bikes, chainguard is there but has been scratched from the other bikes against it. The mudguards are chrome and mint, bars brakes and levers are perfect. I cleaned it up and went for a midnight ride and it shifts perfect and rides like a dream. The saddle was not original as it is a Japaneese vinyl one. I will find a nice Brooks for it. A funny thing is the bike has a store decal on it from another bike shop and not the one that was closing out, his competition down the street.
There was also (2) Sekine cruiser bikes with Sturmey 3 speed drum brakes, both dated 1980/8. Both were blue and one was rough, lots of rust and scratches. I got it for $5.00. The other was NOS yes brand new, no air in tires, lots of dust but nice looking. I bought it for $42.50. I checked it when I got it home and it is very nice, rides like a dream on those 26 x 2.125 tires. The SA hub works perfect. I will post pics in a day or so.
There was 1 bike I wanted to buy but it went too high for me. It is a Carlton road bike, NOS from 1975. It has mint green paint, Raleigh alloy cranks, and other good components. The bike had a Carlton pump. The bike was in the store and 2 years ago I offered $200 for it. He said no and wanted $400. At the auction the bike was at the end of a row of bikes with 3 bikes on top of it. It was scratched a lot in many places. It went for $135. If it had been in mint shape as it was before the auction I would have bid it up to $200. Now how was this bike not sold over 30 years. It sat in the shop that many years and not sold. Nice bike for new owner.
There is bikes out there in nice condition and if you look hard enough there is still NOS bikes but are hard to find. Now off for a ride on a new bike.
Tom
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   New Hudson posted by Tom on 4/18/2006 at 1:08:57 AM
I have some pics of the bikes I got this weekend. They are nice riding bikes.


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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   New Hudson posted by Tom on 4/18/2006 at 1:12:17 AM

Here is a link to all the bkes.
http://imageevent.com/oldy57bikes/oldbikes?n=0
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: New Hudson posted by WArren on 4/21/2006 at 12:52:10 AM
Love the New Hudson...a great Sports/Club bike.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   New Hudson posted by Ed on 4/22/2006 at 3:06:52 AM
Wow I wish I could find auctions like that! The one without fenders could use fenders.
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AGE / VALUE:   check the price on this rod brake bike! posted by: sam on 4/16/2006 at 12:13:02 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6619667220&ssPageName=MERC_VI_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT

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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   check the price on this rod brake bike! posted by Matthew on 4/16/2006 at 8:27:48 AM
One can only assume he is unaware of its real value.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   check the price on this rod brake bike! posted by Matthew on 4/21/2006 at 6:02:22 PM
It sold at $39.99, a cheap ride at that price.

Matthew - peculiar pecuniar performance.
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AGE / VALUE:   NOT SURE WHAT IT IS posted by: Elvin Thacker on 4/15/2006 at 9:14:55 PM
I have an old blue bike that has DUNELT BIRMINGHAM 40 ON TAGS ON THE FRONT AND THEN REAR FENDER OF BIKE. HOW DO I FIND THE SERIAL OR MODEL NUMBER. IT IS ALL ORIGINAL BUT LEFT OUT IN WEATHER A LONG TIME SO PAINT JOB IS RUINED BUT MECHANICS SEEM EXCELLENET EXCEPT FOR TIRES. I TRIED WAL MART TO GET 26 X 1 3/8 EA 3 RIM TIRES BUT ALL THEY HAD WERE 27 X 1 3/8. WILL TRY SEARS OR A BIKE SHOP IN OR NEAR LEXINGTON, KENTUCKY. ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEAS WOULD APPRECIATE A RESPONS.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   NOT SURE WHAT IT IS posted by Matthew on 4/15/2006 at 9:30:10 PM
Elvin,

You've got it right in the first line. Its a Dunelt, part of the Raleigh family. Has it got a Sturmey Archer Three speed rear hub? If it has you can date it from that, clean the hub centre and look for letters such as AG or AW then figures like 5 51. The letters denote the hub type and the figures denote the age of the hub (ie May 1951), this is a good guide for the age of the bicycle itself. Good luck on the tyre hunt. They are available through this website I believe.

Matthew - a little help is worth a deal of pity.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: NOT SURE WHAT IT IS posted by WArren on 4/15/2006 at 11:36:29 PM
Except that your Dunelt is pre Raleigh and in my opinion is much better quality than the later Dunelts. I've got two early 50's Dunelt Sports models.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   NOT SURE WHAT IT IS posted by Jeff R on 4/16/2006 at 12:11:38 AM
The Birmingham Dunelt was part of the Phillips family of bicycles untill 1960 when Raleigh absorbed them all. Dunelt head badges then changed to read Nottingham. Check where the rear fender stays attach to the frame. If they are attached above the rear axel it's a Phillips built bike. If they are attached behind the rear axel it's a Raleigh built bike. Most of the Phillips bikes have the serial number on the left rear dropout but I have also seen them on the left side of the head tube. The steering head bearings and threaded nuts and bottom bracket threads are different and not interchangable with Raleigh. Phillips used 24 tpi Raleigh used 26 tpi. I have an Indian Scout, Dunelt, Norman, and Hercules that are Phillips made bikes. The Norman is an Invader with 531 Reynolds tubing and a Sturmey Archer FM medium ratio 4 speed hub. It's similar to a Raleigh Clubman which I also have. I may have an extra pair of Dunelt pedals with the Dunelt script molded into the rubber blocks. If you are interested let me know.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   NOT SURE WHAT IT IS posted by Jeff on 4/16/2006 at 3:11:21 PM
My local Walmart carries EA3 26x1/38 tires. They cost about$10.00. They have reflective sidewalls and are not exactly OEM but are a good value for those of us who need to count every penny. I have purchased and used several. These don't fit anything Walmart has sold in many years if ever but I don't think the Walmart purchasers have a clue. They probably got a good deal! They also have tubes.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: NOT SURE WHAT IT IS posted by Neal on 4/17/2006 at 3:19:14 AM
My local K-Mart had a pair of EA3 tires that last time I was in there--blackwall, made in China (Cheng Shin, maybe?). I didn't see the price, but given that no other tire was more than $6.95, I figured they were in that neighborhood. I'll likely pick up a pair for a beater bike fairly soon.

Neal
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   NOT SURE WHAT IT IS posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/17/2006 at 9:37:07 AM
The Wal*Marts up here in NJ/PA area have in the past carried 26 x 1 3/8 tyres by Duro. About ten bucks. The "Big" K-Mart off and on carry the Chen Shins (IMHO a nicer tyre than the Duro).

And of course, one LBS carries the appropriate tire as well... but a bit rich for my blood at $18 a piece.

So, hunt around... and as mentioned you can get them here at Oldroads as well.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   NOT SURE WHAT IT IS posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/17/2006 at 8:52:02 PM
"The Birmingham Dunelt was part of the Phillips family of bicycles untill 1960 when Raleigh absorbed them all. Dunelt head badges then changed to read Nottingham."

Well not quite. Remember Raleigh bought nothing in 1960. It was Tube Investments (owners of BCC which owned Phillips, Dunelt and all that other Birmingham/Coventry made stuff) that bought out Raleigh!

All TI did was to sensibly take advantage of Raleigh's underutilised Nottingham plant capacity and consolidate all of its cycle manufacturing under one roof. And they let Raleigh management run the show. But again Raleigh was the one bought out by strangers in all this, not Phillips or Dunelt or anyone else.

P.C. Kohler
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   NOT SURE WHAT IT IS posted by Kerry on 2/6/2007 at 11:56:40 PM
It seems there are some knowledgeable people here on the subject of Phillips cycles. I have a 1965 26" Phillips cycle with leading link front suspension. Is there anyone out there who knows anything about this bike? Model? etc...
I would be thrilled to know more (also need to find a replacement front rim), by the way it is single speed hub (by Perry I think) with a Phillips front hub, not sure if this is right, but it is as I found it. Front suspension looks very genuine. Many thanks for any help.
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