ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Eaton“s Glider posted by: Robert on 2/11/2007 at 4:52:32 PM
Just saw an old 3-speed offered for sale in Mexico. I know nothing about bikes, but it looks like it could be fun for Sunday in the park. Can anyone give me a ballpark idea of the value?
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Eaton“s Glider posted by Warren on 2/11/2007 at 7:39:04 PM
Eaton's is a large canadian department store chain that went belly up a few years ago. The Glider 3 speeds are usually Raleigh rebrands and get less money than a Raleigh would.

Not a lot of money is the answer.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at this beauty and identify it posted by: Pete on 2/11/2007 at 1:26:37 PM
Trolling through ebay as usual I came across an interesting old bike.Take a look at it and see what you think regarding its age and make.It is situated not too far from me so it may be worth going for a viewing but a bit of info on it beforehand would be appreciated. It can be found here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130076180781&fromMakeTrack=true or by item no 130076180781
Cheers Pete.


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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Look at this beauty and identify it posted by Neal on 2/11/2007 at 9:18:55 PM
I can't help you with identifying that bike, Pete, but I think you'd need a ladder to get on the thing (or at least I would at 5'10")!

Neal
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Look at this beauty and identify it posted by sam on 2/12/2007 at 8:56:05 AM
I think the chain ring is a williams--as it has the sholders.The BB is interesting---looks to be a split type like used on tandems.and with the barrel shifter I say it's a teens or 20s bike
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at this beauty and identify it posted by Pete on 2/12/2007 at 1:56:21 PM
I went to take a look at the bike today,unfortunately there is no trace of any original paint or decals to suggest what it might be.The chainring is stamped halford and is shouldered, the front hub is phillips and enormous(not sure if it correct) rear hub is wrong but on the plus side the bike is very tall and elegant looking.Someone did suggest it may be a sunbeam (half front mudguard etc) Assuming it was, the frame number 59984 would seem to date it from this site http://canberrabicyclemuseum.com.au/non-australian%20manuf%20articles.htm to being from between 1902 and 1909 if there are any Sunbeam experts out there who could advize or suggestions as to where to look to find out more that would be appreciated.
Thanks all Pete.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at this beauty and identify it posted by Matthew on 2/13/2007 at 12:51:03 AM
Pete,

You're on to a good un here. Too far away for me but I had already seen it on eBay. Go for it mate if the price is right. Remember Halfors were motor factors but did make their own bikes from early on too. It could be the revered Sunbeam but either way its relatively early for a safety.

Keep up the good work.

Matthew - I'll be in the shed.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at this beauty and identify it posted by Pete on 2/13/2007 at 11:07:54 AM
I managed to buy the old bike, I will pick her up tomorrow and take a few pics and post them up somewhere so you guys might be able to identify it.I got in touch with the Sunbeam register chap and he confirmed it is definitely not a Sunbeam but as you will see when I post the pics it certainly has some very interesting components that certainly justify it being saved and loved.
Pete.....with far too many bikes and too small a shed....
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at this beauty and identify it posted by paulkuzichev on 2/15/2007 at 11:16:25 PM
Try Pashley roadster/I have a 28 inchlookssimilar.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at this beauty and identify it posted by Matthew on 2/18/2007 at 3:06:41 AM
Hello Paul,

I agree that modern Pashley cycles are 'look - a -likes' for this sort of bicycle but as the bike in question probably dates from about the 19 teens it is probably older than the first Pashley which was built in 1926. How old is your Pashley? To have an early model would be a real rarity. The Prospero and Princess are modern well built English Roadsters which are built to a traditional style.

Matthew - enjoy the ride.
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AGE / VALUE:   18 speed Raleigh posted by: Chris on 2/11/2007 at 10:46:27 AM
Thanks to the item number being posted at last. I finally got a look at the 18 speed Raleigh that the seller withdrew. Neat how they mounted the deraiuler cable stopper thing in/ on the rear backstay bolt. Thanks go to Warren, I think, who posted the item number for me to see.

Always did like TA SPECIALITIES cranks!
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: 18 speed Raleigh posted by sam on 2/12/2007 at 8:44:28 AM
Chris here's one I did:
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/frameteam2003/Bentley30001.jpg
not too hard to flip the hanger bracket---but did require some mods to make it work as it should.The bracket has a stop on it that needs to be filed and a new stop brazed on.Really a small easy to do job---sam
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   18 speed Raleigh posted by Jeff on 2/13/2007 at 6:07:48 PM
Okay Folks, I finally got ahold of the guy with the Raleigh(possibly DL-1) 18 speed from ebay #320078070250 . This is what he says regarding wanting to sell it.

"Yes I do and the cost is $200 plus shipping. Do you want to purchase it; I cansend you a bill through paypal or just send me a money order for $250."

Not sure what it's worth or if I will get it. I have another lined up that needs less work, also I think this one is a bit tall for me, but it's so kooky I might just go for it anyhow. IF I decide to pass I will gladly give sellers info to interested party.

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AGE / VALUE:   converting to 2speed fixed posted by: sam on 2/10/2007 at 10:47:26 AM
MnHPVA Guy
I want to get a look at the new driver and related parts, to see if it's possible that the new hubs could be converted to 2 speed fixed without the play you get when converting the older ones.
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The best hub to use for this is a new Sachs or a torprdo hub.They don't have the slop that a sturmey archer has.I used a torpedo coaster brake---removed the front paws,removed the second cluch and brake block,cut a fixing bolck to replace the second cluch--about one inch of slop at the pedal due to gear lash and by home built fixing block.Proubly less with a new hub.---sam
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: converting to 2speed fixed posted by Mark Stonich on 2/10/2007 at 7:55:50 PM
If I were to use anything but a Sturmey, I'd make a 3 speed fixed from a SRAM 5 speed.
http://fixedgeargallery.com/articles/grahamwebster/TECHNICAL_ARTICLE_SRAM_P5.pdf
I contacted the author and he says hed had a batch of the fixing blocks CNCd but had sold them all. IIRC If he gets more made he will charge $70 or $75.

But I've drawers full of Sturmey AWs, including a newer one I've no use for.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: converting to 2speed fixed posted by sam on 2/11/2007 at 10:17:51 AM
Sram is the new name for Sachs.The 5 speed is an up-graded torpedo.With your ability to machine parts--if you ever run across a Torpedo you ought to get it--tare it down and make a fixing block.Not really hard to do---basicly your only making a washer with teeth cut to fit the freewheel cluch ring. And the coaster brake hub all ready has a clip ring to hold it in place.
Sachs machined all the parts Sturmey cast theirs.I'm not knocking S/A just their hub design differed from the torpedo and doesn't work as good for conversions.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: converting to 2speed fixed posted by James on 3/3/2007 at 11:53:15 PM
Sheldon Brown recently reported that SA is considering building a new 3 speed fixed gear hub. I think he posted the info in the Rivendell or the 650B list I forget.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   NOS chaincase posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 2/10/2007 at 7:08:46 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Raleigh-bicycle-Chainguard-drk-green-NOS-fully-enclosed_W0QQitemZ300079556889QQihZ020QQcategoryZ420QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300079556889

A bit pricey... but if it's truly NOS anc complete....

I have a Sports that colour too... :-S

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   NOS chaincase posted by Geoff Rogers on 2/12/2007 at 9:37:40 AM
S'funny: I sold a very similar gearcase about a month ago, also NOS and green (Superbe green, that is, or more correctly, Raleigh Green). Mine had a few little rust worms just starting here and there, but it did include all the hardware (basically just a clamp for the back bit; the front of it screws to a braze-on on the chain stay). It sold for $107, which was the buyer's idea, not mine, by the way.
I just got another one from England, this time a used one and for a 28-inch-wheel cycle. It is also green, by the way. I think Superbes were a lot more common in England than they were here. Also in that shipment from England was my latest toy: a 1953 Superbe with cable brakes, gearcase, Dyno-Four rear hub, Lucas bell, even the pump, which is also green and marked "Raleigh Industries". Cool stuff. The only thing missing is the saddlebag and tools, but I think I have suitable bits to use. The original B66 is intact but looks pretty tender, so I have to figure out whether to keep it or replace with a nicer, but more modern, one (I have a couple but they don't have the cool oval Brooks label). I think I will keep this one, at least for now. Which means I have some others which must go, mostly 60s Sports bikes, but a few from the 50s, three DL1s (2 1970s men's, one 1951 lady's with gearcase) and several rough projects and parts. My, but I do ramble on!
Geoff Rogers
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   NOS chaincase posted by Geoff Rogers on 2/12/2007 at 9:37:49 AM
S'funny: I sold a very similar gearcase about a month ago, also NOS and green (Superbe green, that is, or more correctly, Raleigh Green). Mine had a few little rust worms just starting here and there, but it did include all the hardware (basically just a clamp for the back bit; the front of it screws to a braze-on on the chain stay). It sold for $107, which was the buyer's idea, not mine, by the way.
I just got another one from England, this time a used one and for a 28-inch-wheel cycle. It is also green, by the way. I think Superbes were a lot more common in England than they were here. Also in that shipment from England was my latest toy: a 1953 Superbe with cable brakes, gearcase, Dyno-Four rear hub, Lucas bell, even the pump, which is also green and marked "Raleigh Industries". Cool stuff. The only thing missing is the saddlebag and tools, but I think I have suitable bits to use. The original B66 is intact but looks pretty tender, so I have to figure out whether to keep it or replace with a nicer, but more modern, one (I have a couple but they don't have the cool oval Brooks label). I think I will keep this one, at least for now. Which means I have some others which must go, mostly 60s Sports bikes, but a few from the 50s, three DL1s (2 1970s men's, one 1951 lady's with gearcase) and several rough projects and parts. My, but I do ramble on!
Geoff Rogers
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