AGE / VALUE:   vintage pump on ebay posted by: paul on 4/1/2007 at 3:37:42 AM
Just found this on ebay,looks to be a good pump,not sure how old it is. item number 180102743314
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AGE / VALUE:   what do i do with it posted by: jason on 3/31/2007 at 6:39:44 PM
I just found a 69 ladies hercules in pretty rough shape(remains of a homemade tension spring to hold the now missing SA chain in low, chainguard beat up, exetra)
It was free, its probably worthless, and I would ordinarily strip it down for parts, but the rims are perfect and the paint is good. my problem is that if I fix it up no one I know will ever want to ride it. the hills here make bikes rather unpopular
I've got to stop dragging them home. does anyone else have this problem. I don't want to become some old coot with dozens of raligh sports rusting into the shed floor. jason
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: what do i do with it posted by sciencemonster on 4/1/2007 at 11:24:27 AM
>the hills here make bikes rather unpopular

You answered your own question: Move someplace where you can ride a bike!

I put on a larger sprocket and slapped an 8-speed internal on my wife's bike and she rides it all the time - even when we go up in the hills. Me, I ride my 3 speed mostly, but when we have a long hilly ride in front of us, then I have an converted 8-speed 1951 Rudge. It's the form factor (upright) and the internal gearing that appeal to me.


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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Hills and a Rudge posted by Warren on 4/1/2007 at 4:26:23 PM
Not many roadsters came geared for steep hills. Get a 22 tooth cog one the back hub and try to find a small crankset for the front.

I'm working in downtown Halifax now and it's Category 1 tour climbs all around me. Then I see a courier with a 70" fixed gear and no brakes climbing said hills the other day. Insane.

I sorely miss commuting on a bike.

What a nice Rudge!
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   what do i do with it posted by jason on 4/1/2007 at 9:04:56 PM
thats a great Rudge. wish I had one like it.
I fear the hills not, even on my fixed gears. its just that not to many others around here like to ride anything thats not carbon fibre. there are about twenty riders in a town of three thousand, and fifteen of them are mountain bikers(arkansas is great for mountain biking).
I ride a few 27" converted three speeds, fifty two tooth front and 16 tooth rear sprocket on AW's.(and one 27 inch shimano three speed) one or two are on velospace under crawdadslim.
my problem with the sports is that I think that they are really neat, but the twenty inch frames just kill me. hence the converted "club style" bikes in twenty three to twenty five inch frames.
they don't make them like they did then. I have several new bikes that have developed more mechanical problems than the three speeds(crummy rubber grips, pedals and seats, v brakes that chatter)

heres what I want to do, to get a nice three speed ride on the cheap. I have a 75 record frame, several in fact. north road bars, a forty two tooth front sprocket, and a 27 inch steel SA AW wheelset I have. my only dithering is whether or not to use alloy or steel stem and seatpost, go cottered or cotterless(crank length is the big issue there) and if I should use steel brakes from a sports(they do fit)or weinmann centerpulls. life is hard. jason


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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   what do i do with it posted by Chris on 4/2/2007 at 3:31:27 PM
I can close my eyes and envision that shed I'll have in my old codger days. Only the bike will be more rare and tasty than the common Raleigh sports. Enjoyed the post.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   what do i do with it posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/1/2007 at 9:39:41 AM
>I don't want to become some old coot with dozens of raligh
>sports rusting into the shed floor.

Careful there young feller... some of us here might actually resemble that remark! ;-)

In all seriousness... IMHO the simply don't make these any more... and probably won't either. Though it will be interesting to see how well the Electra Amsterdams sell..

I say you've got something there... I had an olde (1962) Ladies Colt that was in rough shape really... and it's actually the frame and mudguards that were really ugly... Now... the badge is in the hands of Kurt K, the wheels were put on another machine of my own... and doggone it... No Andy, if you read this... I've not forgotten... The bolt-on mounting points for the frame pump will be going to a fellow on the west coast. So if nothing else... a possible "donor" bike?

I have a bunch in my basement as well... and yes... they just sit there... but being little pieces of history it's tough to part with them. So... I'm unsure precisely what to do with mine myself.

Either way... if I saw one out by the kerb, I would not hesitate for an instant to grab it. Why? I dunno... perhaps it's because I've such an affinity... and figure someday, these bicycles may be appreciated once again by others aside from the denizens of this forum.

Don't ever feel... I dunno... "guilty"? For rescuing these machines. They are very deserving of it.

Also... If need be... check around... I know around here there were organizations that take donated bikes too...

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone


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   Science Monster - ? for you posted by brianjcollins on 4/3/2007 at 9:17:49 AM
ScienceMonster,
In your post, you reference slapping an 8 speed internally geared hub on your bike. What did you use? I'd like to know more, as this is a conversion that appeals to me for my 1956 Raleigh Sports.

Thanks,
Brian
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   Science Monster - ? for you posted by brianjcollins on 4/3/2007 at 9:17:52 AM
ScienceMonster,
In your post, you reference slapping an 8 speed internally geared hub on your bike. What did you use? I'd like to know more, as this is a conversion that appeals to me for my 1956 Raleigh Sports.

Thanks,
Brian
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   what do i do with it posted by Andy on 4/3/2007 at 9:47:16 AM
I'm here in San Francisco, maybe the hilliest city in the world, and bikes are king! Mostly hybrid bikes, but all the 'cool' bike messengers ride fix-gears and/or old cruisers with big baskets.

I went by Valencia Cycles recently -- they are the big Electra seller here -- and they said the Amsterdam was selling pretty briskly, which is a heavy bike. So who knows, you can always get off and push if the bike is too heavey.
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AGE / VALUE:   There are many ways to say: "It's not for sale" posted by: Chris on 3/30/2007 at 11:13:41 AM
Proof positive that these old bikes have mojo and magic.
The many ways folks word the phrase "it's not for sale"
Often, I never even get a reply to my question. Like the very notion of them parting with the bike is so absurd as to not even deserve a reply. Money be darned.
Latest e- mail is from a British bicycle owner and devotee.

To Quote: I'd sell plasma before I'd part with the bike.

That's true devotion! Reminds me of beautiful ladies who just break out in laughter when you ask them for a date. Still one has to keep asking and asking I guess, just that I'm getting old and tired of the chase.

When you ride a bike and you take your hands off of the handlebars and if it dives to one side you have a bent fork or something out of alignment.
My next romantic involvement, I'll be looking for bent forks and general frame truth before I go and get all involved in it. (Just departed a bad relationship)
Another time, the teenage kid told me. "My dad toured five states on this thing! He'd kill me if anything ever happened to it!" He also said that he was not supposed to be riding it at all.

I'd like to load up the bike and dissappear and see the country.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   There are many ways to say: posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/2/2007 at 2:06:28 AM
Interesting Chris... Now to things being "for sale", etc..... I suppose we all have our price.... I for one SWORE I would never own another automatic transmission in an automobile.... But when the sales person knocked $5000 off the list price for the leftover Mustang on the lot...

I decided I could live with it. Besides.... being a "modern" machine... It's interesting how given the proper equipment, one can re-program shift points, etc.

So as far as things not being for sale... perhaps one could add the word "yet" as a caveat?

;-)

Later!

Larry "BOneman" Bone

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   There are many ways to say: posted by Pete on 4/2/2007 at 2:55:47 PM
Reminds me of a tale I heard once..
Fat balding guy sat at the bar asks the buxom young filly next to him if she would sleep with him for a million dollars,yes she replied I would.He then asks her if she would sleep with him for 2 dollars,certainly not she replied what sort of woman do you think I am?
The fat balding guy replied we have already ascertained what sort of woman you are, now we're just hagglin over the price!
Moral of the story being no matter what we say, at the end of the day we all have our price even for our beloved bikes.
Pete.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   There are many ways to say: posted by Chris on 4/2/2007 at 3:40:28 PM
True, but I always find the exceptions. They say no and ride away and the money goes back in the billfold. Weird when you have offered way above and beyond what it is worth.
Also I have had folks up and vanish before my eyes. I see something and can't get up to them quick enough. Then they are gone.

People enjoy these to the point that it's beyond money and they just say no and thats the end of it.

I carry cash. Enough to be able to hostile take over/buyout most of what I see and you'd be surprised how many times I do not get it away from them.
One time the son wanted to take out long held back agression against the symbol of his late father. The bike.
Another time, the laughing ex wife running it over with the car as I watched her.
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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   There are many ways to say: posted by Chris on 4/2/2007 at 3:46:07 PM
If they speak a foreign language it's even more difficult. I guess you wave money at them and point to the bike.
Another thing, often it's the boyfriend's, or husband's, or somebody's who is not there to be asked directly. Then they loose the number or don't call or are relunctant to give you their number or it's disconected or something.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   West End Cycle posted by: Doug on 3/28/2007 at 7:58:16 PM
I recently purchased an English Roadster-esque bike... It is believed to be roughly a 1930's vintage and has "West End Cycles NEW YORK" stickers on it.

Does anyone know anything about this bike??? It rides like a dream and I am debating a full blown restoration versus turning it into a reliable commuter.

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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   West End Cycle posted by chris on 3/30/2007 at 9:22:33 AM
Turn it into a reliable commuter. A full blown restoration would ruin things like the neat decal. I have seen this decal from this shop before.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Leather Front Mud Flaps, anyone know how to make your own? posted by: Steve on 3/28/2007 at 5:43:57 PM
Leather Mud Flaps, apparently my 1950 Humber Royal Elf came with a leather mud flap on the front fender and I would like to try and make a replacement. Does anyone know how to make one?
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Leather Front Mud Flaps, anyone know how to make your own? posted by Andy on 3/29/2007 at 9:07:51 AM
Brooks actually makes these now, with the Brooks logo:

http://www.bikesomewhere.com/bikesomewhere.cfm/product/347/3703/15245
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