AGE / VALUE:   CYCLES OF YESTERYEAR posted by: CHRIS on 4/21/2007 at 11:25:57 AM
A fellow who's bike I am working on ordered a enclosed chaincase from Cycles of yesteryear to go on his 26 inch wheel Phillips. The chaincase is made in India and is aftermarket and it uses hardware I am not familiar with.

OOHH! This is going to be fun. With the fellow going to great lengths to find one of these I can not tell him no so it's tonight's project.
I just like to stick with original parts as a rule. I hope this will go on without too much headache.
Wondering why the bracket hardware is different v.s. original. The chaincase looks very close to original so why the different hardware. Perhaps because they cut corners on the hardware manufacture?
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CYCLES OF YESTERYEAR posted by Matthew on 4/21/2007 at 1:49:07 PM
eBay item 150114459189

Matthew - co-incidence is wonderful
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CYCLES OF YESTERYEAR posted by Pete on 4/22/2007 at 3:47:46 AM
Would be interesting to see how you get on with trying to fit the non genuine chaincase.I was very nearly tempted by one a long time ago but decided in the end to persevere and repair the original.The ebay one would get my vote everytime.I researched a little into what was being sold on cycles of yesteryear and it would appear to me that the majority of the parts are Indian made.I also had terrible problems with the owner not replying to e:mails and not being overly helpful on the phone so in the end making an order was impossible for the other parts I was looking for.

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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CYCLES OF YESTERYEAR posted by Chris on 4/22/2007 at 12:02:47 PM
He's missing the green pie plate and cycles of yesteryear did not have it. We are hopeful he'll be able to find one.

Somebody in England should be gathering up all these old bikes and removing original chaincases and offering them up for sale. Seems that the pie plates and enclosed chaincases would be the first place a bike vulture would bite. I will keep ya'll posted.
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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CYCLES OF YESTERYEAR posted by Chris on 4/22/2007 at 12:07:35 PM
Different version, the end pieces are different. seller does not say what size wheel but I'll guess it's for 26 inch wheel.
Decal is off too. I won't be too hard on this, I will remember that we are trying to dress up the bike and keep our pants cuffs out of the chain. Does this come with the hardware?
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CYCLES OF YESTERYEAR posted by David on 4/23/2007 at 3:49:20 AM
Do you think it will be for 26" wheel? All of the bikes I saw in Asia (I admit it was 30 yrs ago) were 28" wheel. I haven't measured, but I'd be very surprised if the two were interchangeable.


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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CYCLES OF YESTERYEAR posted by Chris on 4/23/2007 at 5:17:32 PM
I held it up against the bike and it looks like it will fit.
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AGE / VALUE:   Proper description of B.S.A. paratrooper bike posted by: Chris on 4/20/2007 at 7:51:40 AM
Saw on a web site that it is not proper to call the B.S.A. Paratrooper bike a paratrooper bike. Rather call it the B.S.A. "Airborne" bike.

Wonder what happened to the factory records that are not available.

Over 70,000. were made. The ends where the rear wheel fits in is of solid brass or bronze?

Airborne as referring to the airborne divisions of soldiers in the war.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Proper description of B.S.A. paratrooper bike posted by Chris on 4/20/2007 at 7:57:55 AM
Would like to change the fork rake or rather the head tube angle but will leave it alone.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Proper description of B.S.A. paratrooper bike posted by Matthew on 4/20/2007 at 10:13:12 AM
Hi Chris,

You may well be aware that British Paratroopers wore a 'flash' on their uniform shoulders which said 'airborne' in dark blue on a light blue arch shaped 'flash'.

I have always known the BSA as a paratroopers bike but I can understand that it is proper to call them an airborne bike.

Thanks for the information.

Matthew - earth-borne
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Proper description of B.S.A. paratrooper bike posted by Tom on 4/20/2007 at 11:29:11 AM
I have a friend who has restored a BSA Airborne bike(Canadian). He collected all the correct clothing and items a Paratrooper would have been jumping out of the plane with. He has a friend who was a paratrooper in WW11. He did jump out of a plane and rode his bike. The paratrooper said when they crossed the first river in France a lot of guys(including himself) dumped the bikes in the river as they were sitting ducks high on a bike. They were also noisy and allerted the Germans when they came down the roads. I don't know what river he is talking about but he said at lest 200 bikes were dumped. I am sure they are long rusted away. Would be interesting to see a picture of them in the water if it was not too deep.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Proper description of B.S.A. paratrooper bike posted by Chris on 4/20/2007 at 1:23:39 PM
To my dismay, I can not get thru to the fellow who has the web site. i want to add my serial numbers to the list he's running and the e- mail keeps bouncing back at me as undelivered.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Proper description of B.S.A. paratrooper bike posted by sam on 4/20/2007 at 6:27:28 PM
Paratrooper--Glider infantry---sold a one way ticket.
http://www.faaa.co.uk/Airborne%20History.htm
sam
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Proper description of B.S.A. paratrooper bike posted by Matthew on 4/22/2007 at 1:06:44 AM
Hi Sam,

The link was interesting and no doubt about it all allied parachute deployed troops had that one way ticket to the battle field. However I'm not sure that US troops were issued with BSA bicycles but I would like to know if they were. I have seen pictures of US troops on Wellbike scooters (useless, underpowered, low slung, noisy, a bad idea). As BSA paratroop bicycles turn up regularly in the US of A I would not be surprised to be told that US Airborne had them too.

The Airborne troops I was talking about were the British ones.

Matthew - still earth borne.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Proper description of B.S.A. paratrooper bike posted by sam on 4/22/2007 at 8:51:46 AM
Manny of these bikes do turn up in U.S.of A. because after the war loads of them were sold as Army surplus in the U.S.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Proper description of B.S.A. paratrooper bike posted by Dev on 4/25/2007 at 11:46:59 AM
Can we get to buy a ORIGINAL ,RAF, IInd. WW issue paratrooper,folding bike ?
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AGE / VALUE:   Age of Raleigh Sports posted by: Calvin Roberts on 4/20/2007 at 7:16:07 AM
Hi all.
I have a Women's Raleigh Sports that I'm trying to identify. The back hub says '1969' but the style says that it is older.
The serial number is 530760. No letters. Old gold.
Thanks.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Age of Raleigh Sports posted by Chris on 4/24/2007 at 4:17:45 PM
Sheldon Brown has a timeline with decals. It's buried in his web site. Sheldonbrown.com

The hub/ wheel was replaced then at some time.
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AGE / VALUE:   help??? posted by: simon on 4/19/2007 at 7:26:21 PM
Any ideas on this one value wise without a look? All original Raleigh Superbe 1961 with:

-internal Sturmey Archer 4spd FG hub/ dynohub (not working)
- brooks B-66 saddle,
- intergrated wheel lock (no key, any ideas??)
- dry battery unit (need picture to see bottom section/ or cap missing to hold batteries in)
- original green pump
- no luggage rack.
- lot of minor surface rust/dirt to chrome parts.
- no luggage bag


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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Raleigh Superbe posted by Chris on 4/20/2007 at 6:44:38 AM
Look on the face of the lock where the key goes in. I have master keys for these locks. E- mail me the number on the lock face with your address.
As to value? The Raleigh Superbes fetch more than a Raleigh Sports but condition and originality is everything. Over 100.00 for sure. Can you post a picture?
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Raleigh Superbe posted by Chris on 4/20/2007 at 7:23:23 AM
Noticed it has a F.G. dynohub. Probably 150.00- up. The bike has to be seen, really.
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WANTED:   Rear fender (mudguard) posted by: brooks on 4/18/2007 at 3:10:14 PM
Looking for a black rear fender for a standard 26" Raleigh. Please feel free to contact me directly @ brookssaintives@aol.com. Thanks!
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