AGE / VALUE:   High Zoot Italian Take on things posted by: Bryan on 5/30/2007 at 10:48:38 PM
Its not English, but its right up our alley.

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-UMBERTO-DEI-MILANO-MODELLO-RECORD-ROAD-BIKE-3SPD_W0QQitemZ320120910329QQihZ011QQcategoryZ98083QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ebay Item number: 320120910329

Not my auction etc.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   High Zoot Italian Take on things posted by Roger on 5/30/2007 at 11:10:46 PM
Not positive it's a 3 speed.

If it's a single speed, it doesn't matter to me, it reminds me of similar bikes I've seen on ebay before; but of course this is very ornate, dig those fenders front and back.

I almost bought an Italian type comfort bike (roadster).

Encased chain guard; it could be a 3 speed with cogs like a French one, no SA hub; and I don't quite readily see any levers; but my eye is not trained for that.

My good friend from Sri Lanka has his dad's bike, single speed, it doesn't really detract from the bike unless one specifically wants that.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   High Zoot Italian Take on things posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/31/2007 at 2:21:56 AM
Hmmm... no charge for krating... but a $50 discount for pickup, eh? LOL.... actually... it's well within driving distance for me.

Thing is... as nice as it appears to be.... a bit pricey.

Neat though!

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: High Zoot Italian Take on things posted by westernsaga at yahoo dot kom on 6/1/2007 at 9:44:35 AM
Not a 3 speed, but it's a lovely bike. I think they're a little optimistic about the price, though.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   High Zoot Italian Take on things posted by Roger on 6/1/2007 at 10:28:31 AM
It looks like if you were a suit working in a fairly nice area of town, that would be a classy and handy bike to keep around, to run errands on at lunch and things like that.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   High Zoot Italian Take on things posted by Roger on 6/1/2007 at 10:30:08 AM
But first match the grips.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   "A nice old English 3 speed" (????) posted by: Roger on 5/30/2007 at 8:35:45 PM
http://www.hembrow.eu/variousbikes.html

A number of nice bicycles here, I am trying to tell what kind of 3 speed is the "my town bike"; something is written on the down tube; but I can't tell; and I'm not sure if this should be called old; the paint job obviously is not.

Disclaimer: I would even insist my dog wear a helmet in the above photographs.


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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: posted by Warren on 5/30/2007 at 8:52:12 PM
Thanks for the contact for bike baskets!

(but I'm not sure about the dog thing)
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: posted by Chris on 5/31/2007 at 9:08:35 AM
A real treat. Wow! Thanks.
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   Great baskets!!    posted by Kevin on 6/2/2007 at 2:20:47 AM
I wish I lived a little closer to Cambridge, UK. My Hercules butcher's bike sure needs a basket. I lined it with chicken wire, which isn't nearly as elegant ... but it works.
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AGE / VALUE:   24 inch MAN'S D.L.1. FRAMES ARE NOT KIND TO BABY SEATS posted by: CHRIS on 5/30/2007 at 3:54:39 PM
Very embarrrised. Can't get my foot over the baby seat to get on the bike. Seems 24 inch frame raleigh rod brake tourists don't take kindly to baby seats.The seat is up too high, too shaky and so I'll put the seat on a ladies frame D.L.1. as I did before.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   24 inch MAN'S D.L.1. FRAMES ARE NOT KIND TO BABY SEATS posted by Chris on 5/31/2007 at 9:09:28 AM
Besides, I don't like things clamped onto the rear backstays.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   24 inch MAN'S D.L.1. FRAMES ARE NOT KIND TO BABY SEATS posted by Chris on 6/1/2007 at 2:48:33 PM
Very strange. The gods of trashpicking threw me a bone this morning. Another baby seat exactly like the one I had before. I'll still mount it on another bike probably the ladies rod brake raleigh this time.
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AGE / VALUE:   Is "wraskins" in here? posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/30/2007 at 2:29:10 AM
Don't wanna get in a bidding war with anyone here... hence, the reference in the subject.... This one, quite nice... and propinquitous enough to warrant the drive and save on the shipping.

Ebay item: 200114122244

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Is posted by WArren on 5/30/2007 at 4:06:35 PM
Bid away regardless. It's an auction.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is posted by Bill Askins on 5/30/2007 at 9:09:35 PM
Howdy Larry. "wraskins" c'est moi. Yeah, it's nice (but not without few minor problems. An ancient uncle worked at Smethwick, taught me about the bike when I was a child and thus mine is Phillips household. Now and again, I do tart up an old Raleigh but give them to the daughters since they are, when all is said and done, girl's bikes. Cheers. Bill
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/31/2007 at 2:28:14 AM
Yes... I spotted a couple of minor issues with it as well. My interest is that... for the most part, it's somewhat local to me.... and easy to convince the ladyfriend... hey, we could make a day trip out of it... get the bike... and go to six flags too!

;-)

Last thing I need is another bike in the basement actually.... Still... a BRG roadster.... :-P

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is posted by David on 5/31/2007 at 11:34:43 AM
Nice bike, size, condition. Good luck.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is posted by Roger on 6/2/2007 at 8:58:04 PM
Don't let bidding for this fine object disturb anyone's picnic plans? Eh?

Got to have a good healthy reserve on it too; sometimes, the reserves are very reasonable and at other times, they are not reached at all.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Sports geometry posted by: James on 5/28/2007 at 7:20:14 PM
Does anyone know the frame geometry of the 23" Sports, specifically head tube angle and rake? I noticed that in John Forrester's old paper on trail ( google "da hon" and trail)the Raleigh Sports is listed as a low trail bike, it feels like one to me but then what do I know.

I first became aware of the current interest in low trail geometry (see Kogswell, VBQ etc) when a person who I had built heavily modified raleigh sports for at no charge for labour(new wheels, new brakes, CR 18, front basket, dynohub lights..) was convinced by some local cyclistas that I had conned him into accepting a bad bike because it's "british and british bikes have bad geometry etc." Rather annoying, esp. considering it does rather well with bigger 650B tires and a front rack, which might indicate that it doesn't have the "uninformed british geometry." I preferred it to a regular raleigh sports. I'm never making a bicycle for anyone again.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Sports geometry posted by Roger on 5/28/2007 at 8:17:05 PM
All I can say, is once, about two years ago, Sturmey Archer was discussed on the BBC boards; and some dissed them; but heck,

I'm checking the Craiglist's these days, and even if they are American bikes, the ol' 3 speeds are so numerous, relatively speaking; they were so popular in their heyday.

I built up a bike for someone; and all this stuff you said, makes me shake my head. I note too, you used the British-Canadian form of "labour" so, if you are over there or where ever..very regrettable this happened.

The guy I gave the bike too; things worked out okay with the bike, but work relations and such, didn't go all that smooth; so I can relate.
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