AGE / VALUE:   The joy of an olde Raleigh posted by: Kevin C. on 5/4/2007 at 9:54:12 PM
I have more than 50 bicycles -- Sting-Rays, a Krate, single-tube bikes from the 1920s, 10-speeds, ballooners. But for pure enjoyment, I have never been able to find a better bike than an old Raleigh. For long, leisurely rides, the big, black Tourist; for quicker, more purposeful rides, I grab the 1952 Sports. Both have big leather Brooks saddles and tool bags. I always feel like an Englishman, on his way to work at the dockyards, when I ride either one. I got my Raleighs for less than $50 each and they needed nothing. It's amazing to possess something of such high quality, and with such long-term usefulness, for so very little.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   The joy of an olde Raleigh posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/7/2007 at 2:40:19 AM
There certainly is something about these machines. I can't put my finger on what it is exactly... I don't think it's one singular thing... but a combination of all the RIGHT things.

When you look at all the modern, composite construction "Rolling Clouds" out there... they all harken back to the English Roadster frame.

Too funny... one of the young fellows I work with brought in his $6000 carbon fibre racing machine for me to peruse... first comment I made was "Very nice, but where are the mudguards?"

Fortunately, he has a good sense of humor. BTW... it's interesting... we have many competetive riders at work and it's interesting... I brought in my 1962 Armstrong... and you should have seen the slack-jawed gawkers stangding around the bike rack scratching their chins, etc.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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AGE / VALUE:   Why WALD kickstands are evil posted by: Chris on 5/4/2007 at 9:14:41 AM
I don't understand what the good folks at Wald were thinking when they design, produce and sell these heavy steel kickstands that worst of all (besides being too heavy) were too long for proper use on an English 3 speed bike.

The bike needs to lean over and sit properly so it does not fall over at the slightest bump, gust of wind, whatever.

When I catch heck for removing this guys kickstand I will point to the marvelous Miller glass lens headlight he has on it and I'll extoll the virtues of a sensable kickstand. Yes, its gonna be a alloy Raleigh kickstand on a Phillips bike!

My five strikes against the old type Wald kickstand are as follows:

(1) They are too long for 26 inch wheel bikes. The bikes fall over and are damaged.
(2) too heavy for an english 3 speed this is not a old Schwinn balloon tire beast.
(3) Crappy chrome finish. All that glistening British chrome and then the shops stuck this, this.... thing on the bikes.
(4) these mash the chainstays. EVERY TIME!
(5) The top piece and nut fits atop the stays and not inside them producing a unclean ,cluttered appearence.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Why WALD kickstands are evil posted by David on 5/4/2007 at 2:44:13 PM
I don't understand why the makers of ANY bike that might get a kickstand (i.e. non-racers) didn't follow the German and later Schwinn practice of using a flat plate with a hole in place of the tubular chainstay bridge. Then you simply bolt the Raleigh or Pletscher style stand through the hole and ignore the top clamping portion. Voila! No squashed stays and you can get it tight enough not to loosen.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Why WALD kickstands are evil posted by Mark Stonich on 5/5/2007 at 7:21:59 AM
Why rant against the Wald product? It's so obviously junk that if you used one, that's your problem. Just recycle the steel and get a Greenfield.

As for the plate mounts, AMEN. I'm wondering how much paint would be ruined by quickly TIG welding such a plate on all my roadsters. Not a big deal onthe black ones.

Another possibility would be to have my machinists run off a batch of aluminum blocks, with a slotted mount for the stand on the bottom and the top would be contoured to nestle firmly into the stays like the old Raleigh stands.

I assume they would have to sell for $20-$25. Would there be a market at that price?
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Why WALD kickstands are evil posted by Mark Stonich on 5/5/2007 at 7:22:02 AM
Why rant against the Wald product? It's so obviously junk that if you used one, that's your problem. Just recycle the steel and get a Greenfield.

As for the plate mounts, AMEN. I'm wondering how much paint would be ruined by quickly TIG welding such a plate on all my roadsters. Not a big deal onthe black ones.

Another possibility would be to have my machinists run off a batch of aluminum blocks, with a slotted mount for the stand on the bottom and the top would be contoured to nestle firmly into the stays like the old Raleigh stands.

I assume they would have to sell for $20-$25. Would there be a market at that price?
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Why WALD kickstands are evil posted by Chris on 5/5/2007 at 11:06:23 AM
I'm ranting because I'm kinda currious how this kickstand made it through the pipeline and made it onto these bikes in the first place. So many were made and so many are out there. So many mashed stays.

Who allowed these to become part of the ensamble. The Greenfield's break and the finish is not so hot. No, I'm looking for something else and look forward to seeing your product.
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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Why WALD kickstands are evil posted by Chris on 5/9/2007 at 5:12:03 PM
Crash! My bike just fell over. Messed up my derailer gear now I'll be late getting back because I have to walk. I catch heck for being late. Why was I late? Bike fell over. Bike fell over? Don't you have a kickstand? Yes, but...........
Fell over because it's too long and I did not have time to hacksaw it shorter.

It's heavy, ugly, mashed the chainstays, not original either.
Yes! They are evil.
Ok, I'll stop now.
Plus it's ugly
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AGE / VALUE:   new item in repair kit posted by: jason on 5/4/2007 at 4:52:58 AM


all our bikes are leaning against the greasyest spoon we could find. no derailers to foul with your shiny look pedals I am smugly saying just as they all go over ripping out my shifter cable on some five or six hundred dollar thingy that wieghs less than ten grams.
no new cable, no real desire to ride 15 miles in high gear. mocking sympathy from my companions sparks the problem solving rage that usually ends up with a pile of metal shavings and three one hour drives to the "lbs". theres a Dollar General. hate the place but they may have something, something, yes.
super glue gell. after fraying the cable end a bit I build up a big ball of it where the lead stop popped out, go into the greasy spoon. after a bunch eggs fried in thirty weight motor oil I go out to my bike, cross the fingers and pull the barrel over the hardened mass of improvisational genuis. It works! I quickly act calm and unsuprised.

that was about two weeks ago. I am going to ride it till it breaks, wich is what I usualy do with these things.and now there is super glue in my repair kit so that when I forget to bring the thing at least I will know what I am missing.
jason
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   new item in repair kit posted by Chris on 5/4/2007 at 9:46:25 AM
I saw a fellow take a wire twist tie off of a bread wrapper and rin it through the indicator chain of the bike balling it up so it held the bike in low gear all the time. It worked. A product was offered decades ago it was called: Get you home.

I keep spare cable and a small Snap On red handled pliars in my bag of bits on the bike.

I love derailer bikes without those we would never have derailer cable that I prefer to use on my hub gear bikes.

I love 700 c tires because now we have new presta valve tubes to use in the old Raleighs
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AGE / VALUE:   No white tail bikes at the rummage sale posted by: Chris on 5/3/2007 at 1:39:41 PM
Looking from a distance for English 3 speeds. Are there any this year?
White tail bikes. You know, the famous English 3 speed bikes with the white painted section on the rear mudguard.

I caught a glimpse of the bikes at the rack at the rummage sale and there were no English 3 speeds.

Line was around the building, parking was a nightmare,The lot was full I rode my bike up and waited people packed shoulder to shoulder. I go because you never know what you'll find. This year it was a disappointment.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   No white tail bikes at the rummage sale posted by riptidenj on 5/3/2007 at 9:55:55 PM
Perhaps people are discovering the charms and virtues of the 3 Speed. Last summer I rescued a pair of Dunelts from the garbage and two weeks ago I found a 1978 Raleigh 23" frame Sports by the dumpster where I live.
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AGE / VALUE:   Hybrid gearing on the D.L.1. TOURIST posted by: Chris on 5/3/2007 at 1:02:11 PM
The thing with doing a hybrid gear project is the master chain link will not fit through the rear huret alvit derailer. It has to be all one piece chain, no cheating with the snap together links. I'll make up another chain this one, with out master links.

Also, if the bike falls over it'll mess up the drivetrain. The lovely thing with the innard enclosed 3 speed hubs is that if it falls over you don't damage the delicate derailer because with a 3 speed hub there IS NO derailer to damage.

So, this bike is not going to fall over. I have Simplex shift levers. Tall, weird, old stuff off of a kids bike from the 60's.

No enclosed chaincvase is possible as with all the drailer bikes, all the chain and cranks are out for everybody to see and mud, grit, and then the chain will have to be kept oiled and cared for. it won't be inside the case and kept proper. Oh no. All that oil will attract dirt and grit and shi#.

Still, I am going to love it.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Hybrid gearing on the D.L.1. TOURIST posted by sam on 5/3/2007 at 8:34:17 PM
Cyclo--a french company--with a plant in B-Ham England too.Note the cut-out above the nut,after WW2 this cut-out was changed to a "C" shape(for Cyclo)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130109257154&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:us
Great for cyclo conversion blocks/3 speed blocks or bayless wyle unite hubs or other 1/8"multi-cogs unites
I like the twin wire set-up.---sam
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