AGE / VALUE:   bicycle identification posted by: Philippe on 6/1/2007 at 11:06:31 PM
What is this bicycle ? What is this model ?
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/09/02/39/34/milita11.jpg
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/09/02/39/34/milita14.jpg
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/09/02/39/34/milita12.jpg
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/09/02/39/34/milita15.jpg


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   RE:AGE / VALUE: bicycle identification posted by Warren on 6/2/2007 at 6:53:09 AM
That would be a Peugeot...I would think it's from the 50's, maybe 40's.

Here's an interesting chainwheel reference page.

http://www.blackbirdsf.org/chainwheels/
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AGE / VALUE:   age of my bicycle posted by: Philippe on 6/1/2007 at 10:48:15 PM
Who can tell me the age of my bicycle ?


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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   age of my bicycle posted by Philippe on 6/1/2007 at 11:00:18 PM
other pics:
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/09/02/39/34/105_2112.jpg
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/09/02/39/34/105_2110.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2011.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2012.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2013.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2014.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2015.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2016.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2017.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2018.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2019.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2022.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2020.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2021.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2023.jpg
http://i14.servimg.com/u/f14/09/02/39/34/105_2024.jpg

For me this model is unknown...


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   RE:AGE / VALUE: age of my bicycle posted by Warren on 6/2/2007 at 6:59:55 AM
Nic early bike...should be easy to date. Locate the marking on the back of the Williams cranks or chainwheel and look it up on this date chart.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British_isles/Williams/Williams_nmbrs.htm

It looks like a Norman. They had sloping fork crowns at one time.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: age of my bicycle posted by Warren on 6/2/2007 at 5:55:19 PM
But Normans had their own distinct chainwheel. Bad guess.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   age of my bicycle posted by Philippe on 6/2/2007 at 10:33:25 PM
I have found one marking on the chainwheel: 46

Someone tell me that is a Rudge...

Someone tell me that the rear hub was used for the BSA military folding bicycle.

Is there a specialist in british military bicycle ?


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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: age of my bicycle posted by Warren on 6/3/2007 at 6:30:31 AM
Not likely a Rudge. That crank really looks like a Williams but the 46 is the number of teeth. There would be a 2 letter date code.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   age of my bicycle posted by Philippe on 6/3/2007 at 10:11:14 AM
Ok for Williams maybe i should disassemble the crank from the tube to find the 2 letters date code ?
But i don't know how to do that... i can't remove this part (see the picture)


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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: age of my bicycle posted by Warren on 6/4/2007 at 4:49:08 PM
No, don't go there. It would be more visible than that. Someday you'll likely have to remove it but not now.
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AGE / VALUE:   The chance of a lifetime... posted by: Andy on 6/1/2007 at 3:08:51 PM
Today on my lunch break I spied a fellow loading a big Raleigh roadster onto a truck. If front of him a girl was loading a schwinn into a station wagon. Behind them a sign: ESTATE SALE.

I went into the old cluttered warehouse and noticed a few old schwinns on the floor. "Are there any more bikes?" "Check the basement."

I went down into a room filled with old bakelite tube radios and a couple bikes. The workman said, "You should have been here a couple hours ago, this whole room was filled with old bikes."

But I did spy something neat behind a stack of bricks, so I bought it. A european 3-speed, blue lady's frame with a Torpedo coaster brake hub and front caliper brakes. It says "Express" and "Edelstahl" and has a greyhound hood ornament, and a cool built-in metal tool box. Missing the chain and the tires are flat. Dusty and a little rust on the rack, but it looks like it will clean up well. Anybody heard of the marque?

I paid $40, I've been looking for a cool bike for the girlfriend for awhile.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: The chance of a lifetime... posted by sam on 6/2/2007 at 7:31:14 AM
Express was a high volume german bike company.
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AGE / VALUE:   Bay seats great for more than just babies posted by: Chris on 6/1/2007 at 2:48:42 PM
A full paper bag of groceries or many plastic bags. Bungied up with bungie cord. Handbags (my mom's, not mine) shcool book bags all sorts of things can be cradeled in the wrap around rear back of the plastic baby seat.

Also..... Babies with properly fitting helmets.
Wondering why there are no canopies over the bicycle baby seats like you see on a stroller.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Baby seats great for more than just babies posted by Chris on 6/1/2007 at 2:54:29 PM
Sorry, that was baby seats.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   shimano 3 speed BELL CRANKS posted by: geoff on 5/31/2007 at 1:08:32 AM
hi,

i thought someone out there might know something about the different bell cranks for shimano 3 speeds.

i have heard that some of the older shimano bell cranks are
better than others. i have heard there are types:

Positron

333

the one with a red "N" in the adjust window

and one with a different letter?

any others?

-could you please advise which is best?

or even modify a SA one to suit?

gkelland@student.ecu.edu.au

geoff


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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   shimano 3 speed BELL CRANKS posted by edgar x on 5/31/2007 at 10:30:00 AM
I've only ever used the one with the red "N" (back one in your photo). The spring is inside the hub and not external like the SA ones. The main trouble I've had is with Shimano thumb shifters, they don't seem to want to stay in gear. Stick shifters ("Click-Stick") work great.
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   shimano 3 speed BELL CRANKS posted by nate on 6/1/2007 at 5:38:39 AM
The only type I've seen is the bell crank with the N.
Shouldn't be hard to find an NOS or used one cheap.
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   shimano 3 speed BELL CRANKS posted by Roger on 6/1/2007 at 10:24:54 AM
I've been in contact with Geoff some on this matter; I once bought a handful of bell cranks, mostly Shimano on ebay once.

They are mostly all the ones, with the "N" you can see in the circular window of the bell crank. I have seen a red "N" but I don't know if it was always painted in such a way.

One of those other cranks must have been the first ones they came out with which I have not seen to my memory.

The bell cranks with the "N" were on a lot of bikes; I've got to say that.

I've volunteered to help Geoff out, sent him the websites of some bike coops that may sell used parts as well as I should be able to find something in my storage as well as the push arm and I think, even a lot of bike shops still carry these parts. I got my 1-2-3 control shifter as new; though many shops probably do not carry such.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   shimano 3 speed BELL CRANKS posted by Roger on 6/1/2007 at 11:08:56 AM
Glenn's Complete Bicycle Manual, published in the '70s, is sort of a bible on working on vintage bikes with a lot of material on working on hubs, I will make copies of any pages, I think might be of help to you if I do end up sending some materials.

I even have the earlier version but there it is, and so much of this, I get on ebay, though our library has copies of it as well.


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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   shimano 3 speed BELL CRANKS posted by paul on 6/1/2007 at 1:45:05 PM
speaking of a Shimano bell crank, I spilled on a 1942 Westfield Compax Traveler and broke the (pot metal) bell crank that operates the 2 speed New Departure hub. The Shimano fit with a bit of thread chasing and works well but since that time I located and bought a NOS prewar made from steel and will install it when and if the Shimano quits. (I doubt it) paul
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   anyone heard from Roger? posted by GEOFF KELLAND on 6/17/2007 at 9:25:20 PM
hi All,

has anyone heard from Roger?

i am trying to get in contact with him and am having difficulty...

geoff

gkelland@student.ecu.edu.au

geoffkelland@yahoo.com


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