AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by: ann marie on 6/27/2007 at 7:19:24 AM
morning everyone,
I just bought this Triumph a week ago... still trying to figure out more about it. Can anyone help me out??
Everything is original from the Brooks seat and the Sturmey Archer Hub, cable brakes, and even tires... but I can't find a date on the hub.
The serial #, the best I can make it out is 3379709.. although someone scratched at the paint to reveal it.
I posted a picture..
Unfortunately someone got overzealous with the reflective tape that has to come off- but otherwise, it just needs to be cleaned up.
I appreciate any insight!!!
Also- I'm looking for a vintage large wire basket for the front-- but I haven't been able to locate one online- anyone know of where to locate one??
Thank you..
a.m.


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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by Chris on 6/27/2007 at 8:47:33 AM
Nice bike. I'd leave the reflective tape on it. It's not original but it's applied well and neatly and it'll help save your life.

The bike was made by Raleigh Industries in Nottingham, England looks to be made between the period of 1959 and 1970's. Probably made in the mid 1960's.

Check the tires and tubes and brake cables and brake pads and replace them if they are old.
You could use a wicker basket also. There was a post here a bit back with somebody offering really, really nice wicker baskets. I'd get one of these.

You can find parts on e- bay. The rear hub is a Sturmey- Archer A.W. 3 speed and there should be a date stamped on it. Wipe away all the dirt or grease and you'll see it. This bike is not old enough to not have a date stamped on it. It'll say 6 62 or something like that on it. Replacement parts are not difficult. Tires are 26 x 1 3/8 size and are available at local shops or thru the e- bay or mail order places. New old stock original front hubs appear on e- bay. You can use a Phillips front hub these interchange with the Raleigh or Sturmey- Archer hubs.

You should be fine with a simple overhaul where the headset and bottom bracket is cleaned out and degreased and then re- greased with new ball bearings.

Replacing the cups and the spindle in the bottom bracket will take some searching for but they are out there.
The headset can be cleaned and re- greased with new ball bearings and will be fine but those parts can be replaced as well with some searching. Depends how much use the bike had before you got it.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by ann marie on 6/27/2007 at 9:47:31 AM
Thanks a lot! I think it hasn't been used much-- but obviously had been stored inside for most of its life. Thought it was a ridiculously good find for $60.
I've been riding it a ton in the last week- it's been solid.
Would you recommend taking the bike to a local bike shop to do the re-greasing or do it myself? It looks well-greased but a little dry.
The guy I bought it from sells tons of old bikes and does a quick tune-up before he lets them go. He told me to drop some oil (3 in 1) in the hub once a year- thought it would need a bit more than that too-- but he said the bearings wouldn't need a thing...
thanks for the advice on the reflective tape- people keep telling me to remove it- but I don't mind it much. I don't want to ruin the original paint underneath either.

Main reason for the basket-- have a 22 lb Pug dog that's going to be traveling with me in front-- wanted a wicker but need air flow and a super sturdy bottom of the wire ;)
i know, good grief...
I did purchase the cleaning kit as well- looking forward to cleaning it up.
Thanks for being so helpful!

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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by Chris on 6/27/2007 at 10:16:49 AM
Sounds like you'll be fine. Don't let the dog's feet go thru the basket wire or otherwise. I had a Pug. They are awesome.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by Matthew on 6/27/2007 at 1:57:49 PM
Hi Anne Marie,

22lbs over the front wheel? I would strongly advise you don't try it unless you are a)very strong in the upper body b) a seasoned dog in front basket cyclist or (and this isn't meant rudely) c) Mad?

22lbs (10kg to euro readers) in a wire basket will need a support bolted to the front wheel axle. The forks weren't designed to take this load and might fail over time. The steering will be dynamically challenged by the off / over centre weight i.e. it will go from straight ahead to full lock very quickly with poor control between the two.

To successfully give you the pleasure of cycling with your dog, safely. Use a rear carrier and adapt a child seat to take your valued four legged pal. You choose whether or not to restrain you dog ie strap the hound in the seat but please think twice about the front basket.

Matthew - sounding like my Dad!

PS try 22lbs of something other than dog in a basket first you will see what I mean without endangering you dog.
Nice bike by the way.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by Chris on 6/27/2007 at 3:22:24 PM
He's right! I second that. Don't know why I did not think of this.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by ann marie on 6/27/2007 at 3:51:36 PM
Hi all,

Looks like I inherited big brothers immediately!! Kidding- no, really- Would not even think about attempting this unless a) knew Bob (yes that's his name) was used to this, b)I was capable (strong) and c)found the correct basket to attach to the front.
I ended up today with a Wald metal basket, the deep one, that has support brackets that attach to the front wheel. I took the dog and bike to a cycle shop locally.
Bob's like a dead weight- and on another bike I had he just leans up against the back of the basket and hangs out.. no movement.
Just for laughs, I promise to post a picture soon...
I do appreciate the concern, becuase I can't imagine being able to do this with any other dog. We go pretty darn slow as well.
p.s. , love this bike- they tried to buy it from me at the shop. Not a chance!!
thanks,
Ann Marie

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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by Chris on 6/27/2007 at 4:08:46 PM
Looking forward to the picture. We have a good group here.
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 6/28/2007 at 2:39:11 AM
I'm gettin' a graphic on Bob inna Basket.... :-)

What bums me is my Tucker LOVES to ride.... he's a 68# Boxer... and certainly there are no baskets to accomodate him... nor would I even think of trying....

So here's what I did... I procured a K9 Cruiser... basically a special bicycle leash that affixes to the rear axle.

Alas... Tucker LOVES it... and hauls myself and the machine at a goodly clip....

He's brutishly strong... and commenced to just plain ripping the nuts right off the rear axle of any British machine I tried to hook him to.

Hence... in the stable, a $99 Huffy Ocala that I refer to quite simply as... "Tucker's Bike".

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by edgar x on 6/28/2007 at 11:04:38 AM
A one dogpower motor, eh? How many watts does that convert to?
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 6/29/2007 at 2:42:05 AM
LOL... well.. at night he does power up the dynamo lighing system quite nicely!

It is quite funny.... Myself on this machine of his... he affixed to the device at the rear axle... running for all he's worth... tongue out... flapping behind his head like a scarf... ears flapping up and down like wings....

Rolling along at 10mph give or take...

It is quite comical... and he absolutely LOVES it....

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Teach the dog to ride the tandem posted by Chris on 7/6/2007 at 12:02:54 PM
I can imagine the dog running down the street dragging the bike hub.
I was in a collision shop once and they had a photo of a corvette that got bit by a dog and the dog tore a chunk of fiberglass out of the tail end of the vette. Powerful jaws.
Yes, By the time Larry gets home from vacation I'll have trained the dog to ride on the back of Larry's tandem.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph (Raleigh) 3 Speed posted by Andy on 6/29/2007 at 9:52:17 AM
Wald is the way to go... good old American company that still manufactures right here. The deep rear basket you got is the best for a pooch, especially if he's been eating beans.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Teach the dog to ride the tandem posted by Chris on 7/6/2007 at 11:19:22 AM
Now the 68 lb boxer should be on the back of the tandem pedalling and doing his fair share of the work.
Why give the dog a free ride? This ain't no poodle!
Train the dog to ride the tandem. And I don't wanna hear no flak from the animal rights groups. Dogs have the God given right to ride a bicycle and you know it. They just need a little encouragement and the right training.
Think I have found my calling!
68 pounds and you don't make him pedal?
You are spoiling that dog! Sissifying him!
(grinning and laughing)
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   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Teach the dog to ride the tandem posted by Chris on 7/6/2007 at 11:23:56 AM
Little straps attached to the dogs feet so the feet don't slip off the pedals. If he's experienced, he can switch to fixed gear.

A whole line of bikes specially designed for dogs.....
I'm thinking...
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Teach the dog to ride the tandem posted by Chris on 7/6/2007 at 11:29:23 AM
Leave the wife at home. Just you and the dog. The wife tells the marriage counselor: He's always off riding the tandem with the dog and he won't take me!
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:  Teach the dog to ride the tandem posted by Chris on 7/6/2007 at 11:54:11 AM
Don't feed the dog until it demonstrates it can ride the tandem with you. It'll stop biting you eventually, don't be a quitter.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hundreds of them. posted by: Bill Askins on 6/26/2007 at 9:09:36 PM
Take a look at these English roadsters. You may weep, especially if, like me, you live on the East Coast. Ebay item number: 190126401024 or enter this phrase “3 Vintage/Antique Bicycle Bike Lot Buyers Choice prop” into the EBAY search engine. Perhaps we could rent a tractor trailer, pool our resources, and do the Easy Rider thing, kind of.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hundreds of them. posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 6/27/2007 at 2:16:26 AM
Wow... I counted over 8 rod-brake machines in one pic alone. Full chaincases too. Though... one never knows, they could be Indian or Chinese in manufacture.

This is a second Pile-O-Bikes to come up recently. Somewhat unsettling... to say the least.

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hundreds of them. posted by Matthew on 6/27/2007 at 2:01:17 PM
Thsi could be bargain of the century or just a wagon load of heartbreak. Bikes left out like these suffer badly and they may well have been film props, in which case they will have been abused in every possible way. BUT there might be a Sunbeam in there???

Matthew - curiouser and curiouser.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Hundreds of them. posted by Ed on 6/27/2007 at 7:02:38 PM
Well at least this is in a semi arid climate. I would so much want to go there for a good look. Ed
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AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Magnum posted by: Alan Logan on 6/26/2007 at 6:53:08 PM
I have recently found a Raleigh Magnum 1980 road bike. I have been looking all over the place for information on this model with no luck. I know it's barely an old bike, but it's a beautiful model and i'm desperate for any information i can get regarding this model. Thank you.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Magnum posted by Matthew on 6/27/2007 at 1:39:34 PM
The Magnum was a well built base model. Sold with no frills but not rubbish. Available in a range of colours, mostly metallic.

Matthew - recall but not total
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Magnum posted by Cliff on 7/9/2007 at 6:17:05 AM
I have a Raleigh Magnum, and I love it. What did you need to know about it?
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at it or sell it? posted by: Pete on 6/26/2007 at 4:08:03 PM
I lovingly restored a 1934 raleigh last year that I should have walked away from but couldn't.....you know what it's like all senses go out of the window, you feel sorry for it and you end up spending loads of money and vast amounts of time on it rather than seeing it rotting away to be lost forever.Well that was the trap I fell into and became obsessed with.Resulting in 150 hours of stripping/blasting/prepping/painting/lining/decals/mechanical/parts etc etc.I eventually finished up with an as new 1934 bike that is a real eyeful.Trouble is with 6 other bikes in the shed (which I had to get especially to house the growing bike collection) I find I am not riding the shiney 1934 Raleigh, preferring instead to mount my Raleigh crossframe or enormous edwardian bicycle so as not to disturb the shiney one in case I scratch it.This seems a real waste to me,as I believe a bike should be ridden and enjoyed.I'm not one of those interested in taking bikes to shows and prefer solitary riding purely for the pleasure of hitting the lanes and back roads on a proper well engineered old bike with character and love built into it.Getting the bike out of the overfilled shed is a nightmare though without damaging it.
Here lies the problem....do I keep it and look at it daily and maybe ride it a dozen times a year or do I sell it and pass the responsibility on to someone else? It will be a wrench to see it go after all the work/time/love/heartache/money etc that went into it and I would hate to let it fall into the wrong hands.If I was to sell it I would have to be sure that it would go to the right sort of person who would cherish and look after it as much as I do.I'm not going to post up pictures of the bike or give full details of it as this is not an advert for the bike as at the moment I'm not even sure if I even want to sell it or not it's just a question to all of you as to what you would do in my circumstances with an overflowing shed/a genuine love of the bike but the feeling that maybe it should be getting used more than it is at the moment.Let me know what you think as at the moment I just can't decide.
Cheers Pete.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at it or sell it? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 6/27/2007 at 2:24:08 AM
Pete,

I can certainly relate to your angst over this particular machine... and hearing what I do, I daresay that the angst you will feel after having parted with it just may be even worse. The time and effort you've invested was done so for a reason. Perhaps a touch of O.C.D., but I think we're all guilty of that from time to time... hence, why we're here.

I say keep it. Work around the intricacies of getting it in and out of storage. Let's face it... if it were a 1934 Cadillac restored from the ground up... you would not use it to commute to work every day.

Perhaps it's time to re-think the design of the shed or how you have the machines stored in there as well. Perhaps there's something that can be done there to facilitate easier access.

My vote is KEEP it. I sure as heck would. Even if you only ride it in parades.... it still has "PETE" written all over it.

CHeers!|

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at it or sell it? posted by Matthew on 6/27/2007 at 1:45:44 PM
Hi Pete,

I'm in a similar quandry over my Norwich Rival. Never ridden from one year's end to another, hardly sees the light of day but its my original collectors peice. Ground up restoration and beautiful to ride, stored in the bowels of THE shed. I ride thr tradesmans bike more than any other so the Rival doesn't get used but to sell or not to sell? Common sense says let it go, sentiment says otherwise. Its 68 years old and well .. .. .. ..

Matthew - musing
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at it or sell it? posted by Chris on 6/29/2007 at 6:55:16 AM
Ride the thing.
Enjoy it, use it up, show it off. if you scratch it or dent it, oh well.

There is no guarentee that whomever gets it after it will take care of it. So you enjoy it.
Life is too short not to enjoy it.
Unless you need to sell it.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Look at it or sell it? posted by Pete on 6/29/2007 at 1:12:21 PM
You're right, I think I will keep it.Everybody deserves to keep at least one special item even if only to look at and be selfish about.Guess I'll have to find alternative storage for some of the other bikes to enable me to get it out and ride it more easily and hopefully frequently.

Cheers Pete.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Marfield: Is it an English bike? posted by: Tina on 6/26/2007 at 7:02:58 AM
I just bought a beautiful Marfield red bicycle. I can not find info on the internet except that it might be an English bike. The only info on the bike is Marfield and Explorer. If you have any info I sure would appreciate your inpute. Thanks, Tina
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Marfield: Is it an English bike? posted by Matthew on 6/27/2007 at 1:47:38 PM
Any chance of a photo? Its not a name I've heard of my side of the pond (England)

Matthew - new to me
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Marfield: Is it an English bike? posted by Phil on 7/7/2007 at 10:09:56 PM
I did a little digging, and it appears that my 'Marfied Clipper' is almost exactly like a Robin Hood from the same time period. Can you find a corresponding Raleigh model similar to your Marfield Explorer? Seeing as how this came from Chicago, I'm wondering if these bikes might be prototypes made by Raleigh for Marshall Field's (Mar-field?)

Just a theory, and I'll post a picture when I get my camera back, I promise.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Marfield: Is it an English bike? posted by Phil on 7/3/2007 at 8:56:21 PM
I just purchased a 'Marfield Clipper' here in Chicago. It appears to be from the early 60's. I can't find any information online about it at all. I'll take a picture later. Good luck with yours . . .
Phil in Chicago
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Marfield: Is it an English bike? posted by Durk on 10/23/2007 at 5:16:46 AM
I just found this Marfield last weekend. Phil's theory about it being a Marshall Field's bike is most likely correct. My mother worked at Field's in the 50s and 60s and confirmed the "name" as associated with Field's. My guess is that these bikes were made by Robin Hood. My mother told me that she bought a RH from Field's in the late 50s or early 60s. If Field's carried the Hood bikes, they probably had a relationship with them to manufacture the Field's brand. Of course, that's just my theory. Anyway, mine has a 3 speed hub made by Shimano. There's no model # or date stamp on my hub--just a patent # (the patent dates back to 1966. There doesn't seem to be many of these bikes out in the world, which is kind of cool, I think.


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