ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Greasy fingernails . . . posted by: David Poston on 8/15/2007 at 10:17:03 AM
. . . and the smell of kerosene filling your nostrils. Parts scattered around the back patio and garage. Your wife telling you to wash those hands. Chasing ball bearings around the floor. I had forgotten what a pain . . . and PLEASURE it is to restore these beauties to life. Three years of dust and neglect and I thought that the roadster craze had passed. Now, putting these things back together brings back old memories. Simichrome and brass wool. Wax and grease. I guess when the bug bites back it bites hard. I've spent the last three days solid sniffing kerosene, packing ball bearings, and scrubbing away with hurt fingers and wrinkled skin. Ah . . . this does bring back memories. If only I could keep more than two bikes (one for me, another for my wife). If only the future owners of these bikes could understand that the long hours of aching backs and knuckle scrapes will never be repaid through paypal . . .

I hope to have pics of my fully restored New Hudson soon.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Greasy fingernails . . . posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/15/2007 at 12:08:43 PM
So... I'm not the only one this week... good deal.

Why only two???? Seems to me you should at least be able to have one... maybe two "donor" bikes lying about... and of course one or two "backup" machines to ride whilst the primaries are down for repair...

(just tryin' to help) ;-)

Looking forward to the pictures David!

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
(sitting here... wondering what corner of the planet Kurt K. fell off of...)


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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Greasy fingernails . . . posted by David Poston on 8/15/2007 at 3:24:34 PM
. . . or P.C. Kohler. With RollBritannia defunct, he seems to have disappeared off the map.

David
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Greasy fingernails . . . posted by Warren on 8/15/2007 at 8:04:11 PM
Kurt is playing with higher end lightweights on the CR list. As is PC.
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Greasy fingernails . . . posted by David on 8/15/2007 at 8:51:30 PM
What's the CR list?
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Greasy fingernails . . . posted by sam on 8/16/2007 at 6:51:20 AM
What's the CR list?
another place that makes you want to have more bikes!
Great list---LOTS of info on all brands of lightweights
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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Greasy fingernails . . . posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/16/2007 at 7:39:25 AM
I (and others here...?) may live to regret this... but....

Link?

;-)

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Greasy fingernails . . . posted by David on 8/16/2007 at 8:24:17 AM
CR list - sign up at ClassicRendezvous.com. There are rules and the listmeister enforces 'em. Very good info.
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Greasy fingernails . . . posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/16/2007 at 11:09:19 AM
Ahhh... Classic Rendevous... OK... That I've heard of.

Thanks!

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Greasy fingernails . . . posted by Warren on 8/17/2007 at 5:47:08 PM
Might just add that it can be a very serious list. There are many knowlegeable people (strong characters?) on the list that don't "suffer fools lightly". Some members tend to not tolerate uninformed opinions. The list has a narrow focus and you dare not break the rules or you will be kicked off. Do NOT talk about aluminum bikes, or bikes made after 1985 (with a few exceptions), or indexed shifting or non classic bikes etc etc. You have to study the list and see where it's coming from to fully appreciate and participate in it. Oldroads is more welcoming to newcomers.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Greasy fingernails . . . posted by Matthew on 8/19/2007 at 1:38:59 AM
Hi,

You Guys probably realise I've been kicking about this board for over 8 years, doing my bit of encouraging, aiding, and warning. Its a good place to be (virtually). Nice to see David (Poston) back amongst us. I like the lack of exclusivity and the gentle banter. (it did turn to limey bashing at one point and I - limey to the core - withdrew for a while). Meanwhile I count myself blessed to 'know' guys like Larry, Chris, PC, Kurt, Warren, Pete and so many more who enhance my knowledge and well being.

I had a pedal problem this week. The left pedal of my 'unknown' trade bike (cycle truck) refused to play the game on Monday morning, 5 miles into a 186 mile ride. There was a grassy verge and a tall flint wall and plenty of sunshine so I made a temp repair there and then, its still working. I just loosened the adjustment and hoped the lock nut would hold; it did!

The ride spread over 6 days, 2 non-riding days and one colossal 76 miler. I kept mainly dry and spirits high but miles 60 to 70 were a drag.

Matthew - keep riding, keep writing
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   can anyone help me identify this bike? posted by: fran on 8/15/2007 at 5:48:07 AM
Hello! I recently bought an old English Roadster. The decal on the chain guard and the front plate say "Royal Hunter" (you can see this image at www.safe-as-houses.org/images/tag.jpg ); "Made in England" and "Roadster Model" are painted on the frame. It is a lady's three speed with cable brakes; the Sturmley-Archer hub has the date code 61. The serial number (52398 RC), in the same place as would be for a Raleigh (on the post under the seat), doesn't match the Raleigh serials posted in this forum. I'd thought it was a Raleigh, but now I'm not so sure! Any idea on it's value and if it was actually made by Raleigh? It's in ok shape. The rack is a new addition.


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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: can anyone help me identify this bike? posted by fran on 8/15/2007 at 6:11:14 AM
Oh yes, and if anyone has tips on where to find authentic-looking replacement tires, and what I should do to keep it looking nice (or make it look nicer), those would be appreciated, too. I'm new to this, in case anyone hasn't got that yet.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: can anyone help me identify this bike? posted by Warren on 8/15/2007 at 7:41:57 AM
It's a Raleigh rebrand. The crank, fork crown, and rear fender braze-ons behind the axle identify it as one. Try to find EA3 (26 x 1 3/8) blackwall tires. Kenda make some reasonable ones. Check your local bike shops. It's a good bike that should last just about forever and all the parts are available in the used part market. Everything you want to know about your bike can be found here...http://www.sheldonbrown.com/raleigh.html
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: can anyone help me identify this bike? posted by fran on 8/15/2007 at 6:13:04 PM
Thank you, Warren; your help is much appreciated. The Raleigh site is really interesting, too.
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   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: can anyone help me identify this bike? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/16/2007 at 6:13:06 PM
I actually picked up a nice set of Kenda 26 x 1 3/8" tyres... at of all places, K-mart.

Very nice, typical light roadster, "Block" tread.

:-) Only thing is... this particular style of tire, unfortunately... seems to never be available in gumwalls.

You can also find Chen Shen as well as Duro... though, I'm not really fond of the Duro... at the Wal*Mart...

Not that I would advocate handing them dime one... but that's a whole other bag of snakes for a whole other discussion board. ;-)


C'est la vie!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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AGE / VALUE:   "Lead us not into temptation.... posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/15/2007 at 2:39:26 AM
for we can find it ourselves." - Oscar Wilde

Drooling towel suggested...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200139896764&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Hethcins posted by Warren on 8/15/2007 at 5:55:43 AM
The reason it's not selling? It's a fake of sorts. There's a guy who is reproducing these Hetchins with dubious provenance and I believe it's being fought out it the courts. A true Hetchins frame would make over the asking bid on this bike. Gotta be careful out there.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Hethcins posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/15/2007 at 6:51:00 AM
I'll be darned... never even thought to question the authenticity.... That is odd..... and unsettling as well.

Thanks for the heads up Warren!

Yeah... it was tempting..... and I was quite surprised it was not already bid up to princely sums....

Later!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by mark stonich on 8/18/2007 at 11:52:46 AM
Questionable provenance aside, it seems like someone got a rather nice bike for not too much money.
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh key report posted by: Al Fickensher on 8/14/2007 at 8:08:01 PM
Today I decided it was more important to have a working lock on my recently-aquired Superbe than a hope that someday I might find an honest-to-goodness OEM key. Let me point out that I'm not an ebayer and won't become one and also, the fork is off the frame right now for the bike's clean up and general inspection. Good time to take the fork to a locksmith and see if a key can be gotten locally.

Short answer, yes. Story answer, it took the man an hour and a half but he did it. With fork in hand the locksmith went to a database in his computer and immediately found my lock number but he didn't have the perfect match blank for it. Using some different blank he fiddled and tinkered till he got it right. This seasoned craftsman charged me the whopping sum of $14.50 plus $4.50 for a duplicate.

So for $20.53 (tax makes up the difference) I got a couple of keys and can assemble the bike when I'm ready without the need to remove the fork later for a key job.

Now whenever my cotter press, new cotters, and BB removal tool gets here from Mark Stonich I'll finish disassembling the frame bottom and get the frame rubbed out and waxed. Clean, inspect and repack the BB assembly and I'll be ready to assemble all the parts back into a working bike.

BTW, I already have the crank arms off the spindle having used the loosen-nut-and-ride-em-loose method, but am holding on the rest of it till the toold get here later this week.

The DynoHub alternator is just fine. Got that all cleaned and repacked and with axle ends in-hand puts out good power. Definitely wouldn't want to steel-wool the hub, spokes, and rim with the alternator (magnets) installed.

Found the left pedal short 2 bearing balls at each end during the pedal refurbishing so have to get some 0.156 5/32 balls before too long.

Haven't gotten to the rear wheel yet and likely won't till sometime later. We'll use the spare AW in generic wheel assy that we have on hand just for that purpose.

Maybe it'll cool down a bit next week when I'm ready to take him out for the test flight.

Pictures at 11.
alf
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh key report posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/15/2007 at 2:32:01 AM
Excellent work Alf. And I think you're well ahead of the game financially.... One of the fellows I work with owns a $7000 "Rolling Cloud" of a machine. He's very seriously into competition and that's cool. The bike weighs something absurd like... I dunno... 15 ounces?

Anyhow... he carries with him... this lock for the thing that's like a portable version of Fort Knox. Combine the weight of his lock and his machine... and it's probably a wash with your Superbe and new Key.

And for thousands less, you're in the game, sir!

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone
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AGE / VALUE:   Memories posted by: Kit Thomas on 8/14/2007 at 7:19:56 PM
Thank you for sharing your memories.

Summer time and Raleighs...the lake at Freedom Park and the Little League ballfield...our dawn patrol ride to the Catawba River to buy Fireworks for the Fourth...paperboy baskets full.

My Raleigh was freedom and I knew how to use it. When Dad got home and his cheeks were real red, I just hopped on and rode away.

When we moved back to Virginia, Mom left my Raleigh behind but the gentle click of a Sturmey Archer gear still rings soft in the sweet Southern summer memories of my youth.

Best regards,
Kit
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