ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Looking for rear rack posted by: Deborah on 5/23/2008 at 8:21:36 PM
I just purchased a beautiful 1970 ladies Sports from the original owner. All parts original except for the seat and handlebar grips. It'll be a commuter bike, so I need to find a rear rack that will fit so that I can add baskets/paniers. Can anyone tell me what rack to get that will fit? Seems most rack are a bit short. Any suggestions helpful. thanks so much!
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Looking for rear rack posted by Kevin on 5/23/2008 at 11:48:02 PM
Deborah,
Don't mess up that classic Raleigh by putting modern racks on it.Buy a Brooks saddle such as, a B66-S with bag loops on it, then strap a large Carridice saddle bag to it.A Camper or Nelson Long flap model is all you need and the old fasioned style will look great on your bike.
Kevin
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Looking for rear rack posted by Matthew on 5/24/2008 at 1:37:11 AM
Hi Deborah,

Well 1970 is quite a handy year because around that time any go ahead young lady cyclist probably would have purchased a pletscher aluminium rack for her sports but if she was low on budgets having bought a rather nice bike she would probably have purchased a fairly cheap tubular steel sprung rack which were cheap and in plentiful supply.

Matthew - racking up the options
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Looking for rear rack posted by sciencemonster on 5/24/2008 at 4:09:27 PM
The cheapo $10 aluminum rack big bike stores sell will fit perfectly. Looks correct, too.
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   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Looking for rear rack posted by Max M. on 6/5/2008 at 4:15:05 PM
The best looking ones were the official add-on Presstube Minor rack. They were painted to match and come on a lot of Superbes. They fit perfectly and are always showing up on Ebay.
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AGE / VALUE:   Can't get that one out of my mind! Yikes!! posted by: Chris on 5/22/2008 at 5:41:01 PM
That Phillips bike with the red tires and flat glass Sturmey- Archer 12 volt headlamp. The one we discussed a while back? My heartbeat still has not returned to normal!

Yes, that was THE grande prize winner!
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AGE / VALUE:   take a look! Down tube decal never before seen posted by: Christopher on 5/22/2008 at 5:25:07 PM
Take a look at e- bay item # 230253646033 Antique Phillips Sturmey Archer bicycle.
Look it up by typing in the item number in the search box.
This is one reason why I feel these bikes are magical.
the decals like these.

"I have seen the bike before" I think, "oh hum, what is new here? what is it that I have not seen already?" Bang! It is this decal on the down tube.
Take a look at this downtube decal that is original and factory applied! Never seen this one before!

It's just your run of the mill, ladies, Phillips bikes 26 inch wheel, cable brakes. The decal makes it special. Nice price already fetched with still an hour left to go.

I love the badges and transfers (decals) and especially the wilder and rarely seen ones.

If it has ended already then do a completed auction search
for it.

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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   take a look! Down tube decal never before seen posted by Chris on 5/22/2008 at 5:35:10 PM
When you scroll down it is the 7 th picture out of the 8 pix the seller took. Another thing, I did run across a fellow who reproduced the small "genuine english lightweight" decal this bike has one of these as well.

This is a Birmingham , England made Phillips before the Raleigh takeover.

I love the fork decals as well....
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   take a look! Down tube decal never before seen posted by Chris on 5/22/2008 at 5:40:54 PM
also, take a look at the fat, curved, possibly alloy? rear mudguard (fender) bolt washers there are two of them.
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AGE / VALUE:   What to ask the Geinie for.... posted by: Chris on 5/21/2008 at 5:10:42 PM
You have one last wish. What is it? before I go back into my magic bottle.

Yes, Serial numbers deciphered for all bicycles. Any bike's serial number code explained fully.

Poof!

This information is lost to bicycle historians almost 100% of the time.

People always rattle off that number hoping it is the key to unlocking the vast mysteries of old bicycles. Wish we could do it that way.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What to ask the Geinie for.... posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/22/2008 at 2:28:11 AM
Might I add an addendum... whils the genie is in the process of de-ciphering Serial Numbers... perhaps those affixed unto Univox guitars from the 60's... the facility where they were mfg'd unfortunately fell victim to conflagration.

Cheers!

Larry "Boneman" Bone - what IS in a number?
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What to ask the Geinie for.... posted by Steve on 5/22/2008 at 2:37:14 AM
It's funny you should say that because I'm just as bad as anyone else, I always hunt for the serial number in the hope that when I find it, a full history of the bikes actions (and owners) will be revealed .

A gentle rub of the number would energise a printer machine hidden away inside the well-oiled chainguard (or well-used basket on a trade bike) and "woopee doo" out comes a dirty great long print-out of over half a centuries misdemeanours...Bletchley Park Enigma code eat your heart out !

Meanwhile, back in the real world I tend to record serial number details on my log here and that's about as far as it goes.
I think the reality is that you are left with a rough idea of the bikes age simply by staring at it (usually when waiting in queues on sunny days), mending it for the umpteenth time, noting style of engineering or simply comparing it with others of similar dimensions when seen.

I recently acquired two identical bikes (probably 1950's), one had the number in the usual place on the lug just below seat left hand side, the other had absolutely nothing (drop-outs, bottom bracket, headtube, rear brake support bracket etc) and it wasn't until I removed the seat that I noticed very faintly through the black paint that the number was stamped into the top of the seat lug (not the side)....turns out it was 25,000 frames earlier than the other bike !

I'm presuming that ace bike serial number stamper Sid Smith was late for work that day (or had gone for a fag or possibly even a chat with ace bicycle polisher Margaret behind the bike sheds about the state of the economy) and in crept mischievous Bill Jones (who wasn't to keen on Sid but did like Margaret) who would stamp a bike just about anywhere but the right place knowing full well that there would be millions of people (well maybe hundreds or possibly one or two like me) years later looking for these things, there was also a chance of getting Sid into trouble for stamping in the wrong place !

But your quite right, I know there are one or two serial number lists that can give you a clue as to the bikes age, but it's only a clue !

Steve - it's a mystery !
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What to ask the Geinie for.... posted by Kevin on 5/22/2008 at 3:50:25 AM
Schwinn numbers are the exception. If the bike was built after 1948, you can actually determine the exact day of production from the serial number. Someone did collectors a big service by posting the dates, taken from production log books.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What to ask the Geinie for.... posted by Steve on 5/22/2008 at 4:51:33 AM
Just had an afterthought, would all bikes produced leading up to 1939 have had deliberately misleading serial number codes attached in order to confuse the enemy ?

Something along the lines of removing all the sign posts so that they didn't have a clue where to go should they have landed !

Did the enemy use secret agents to acquire this vital information hence all serial number records are now hidden away in a very large (but well engineered) shoe box at a private address in Kaiserslautern, (W) Germany !

Steve - lights out.
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MISC:   Roadmaster? posted by: Simon Smith on 5/20/2008 at 10:31:12 PM
Hello,
I was wondering if there was anyone out there that could help me out with my mystery bike, which I believe is an early roadmaster (35-36?). I aquirred it from my neighbor, who had no idea of what he even had which was due to the three layers of house paint that had been poured over it, that was hidding lots of rust. My mystery is the head badge, it reads (ROYAL MASTER) and not roadmaster. The serial # is GO7922 across the bottom bracket, but turned 90 degrees from the number is the # 6 or 9 depending on how you look at it. Any and all answers are greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Simon
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   RE:MISC:   Roadmaster? posted by Steve on 5/22/2008 at 4:30:00 AM
I have a bike here that has serial number markings (or codes) on both seat lug and bottom bracket complete with the extra 90 degree figures that you mention.

It just confuses me even more than I already am.

Can't help with the Royal Master/Roadmaster stuff.

Read above posting for more (or less) serial number information.

Steve
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