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Archived: Vintage Lightweights







AGE / VALUE:   Vainqueur posted by: Gordon on 4/21/2000 at 8:11:32 PM
Anyone heard of this bike? Says Made in Portugal, and rims say Samin Saminox Made in France 27 1 1/4. Has Simplex deraileurs front and rear.







WANTED:   torpado beta fork posted by: stuart gross on 4/20/2000 at 9:21:29 AM
Hello, my bike's not quite vintage (mid-eighties), but maybe someone can help. The Torapado I got when i was 14 is coming back to me (yehaw!) but the fork is rotted out. I'd like to replace it with original equipment (embossed "T" semi crown). Anyone have one, or know where to get one?
thanks


   RE:WANTED:   torpado beta fork posted by Keith on 4/20/2000 at 10:12:05 AM
I can't help you with the fork, but it's really cool that you're getting back the bike of your youth. Is it the actual same bike, or the same model. I repurchaced the Peugeot track bike I got at age 14 about 20 years after I sold it. Very nostalgic.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Chrome Schwinn Paramount posted by: Keith on 4/20/2000 at 7:26:53 AM
There's a nice-looking chome Schwinn paramount on Ebay -- not mine -- the bids are pretty low so far.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Chrome Schwinn Paramount posted by Mike Q. on 4/21/2000 at 6:27:54 AM
Hold on! Sure it's not a Varsity? Where are those fancy Nervex lugs? I don't think Paramounts were ever made without 'em.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Chrome Schwinn Paramount posted by Frank Schwinn on 4/21/2000 at 8:11:19 AM
Yeah -- it's a Vasity with Campagnolo Nouvo Record equipment, a Brooks Professional, and a 531 tubing sticker. Special model for 1975.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Chrome Schwinn Paramount posted by Oscar on 4/21/2000 at 1:53:45 PM
What item number is it?

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Chrome Schwinn Paramount posted by Dirk on 4/21/2000 at 2:53:56 PM
Look Closer, those are Nervex Pros...

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Chrome Schwinn Paramount posted by Bob Hufford on 4/21/2000 at 8:06:40 PM
Some '70s Paramounts were sourced with rather plain Prugnat lugs. This one looks like Nervex though -- sort of lost in all that chrome.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Chrome Schwinn Paramount posted by Keith on 4/24/2000 at 6:58:36 AM
Item # 312372988. It went for $750 -- respectable, but IMHO the buyer got a very good deal. It still had the reflectors -- makes me wonder if this was an impulse purchase that wasn't ridden. And yes, you can just make out the Nervex lugs in th glare of the chrome. There is also one on the Yahoo auctions, the guy wants $1,800 for it. He was a successful young racer and rode it in the Olympic TTs in the 70s. Such is the history of the Paramount.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Cinelli mod. 1 (Steel Stem) posted by: Alfredo on 4/19/2000 at 1:37:00 AM
Does anyone know if the original 60's Cinelli mod. 1 steel road stem was 26.4 or 26.0 bar clamp??? Thanks folks!


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Cinelli mod. 1 (Steel Stem) posted by Dave Shoe on 4/28/2000 at 5:35:41 AM
Possibly 25.4mm for steel (1 inch exactly - same as Nitto and Salsa Track), based on this technical link:

http://www.gate.net/spokewrench/tr-refspec.htm#stem

It looks like Cinelli Al and Ti pieces are the more common 26.4mm.

Shoe.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Cinelli mod. 1 (Steel Stem) posted by Hilary Stone on 5/12/2000 at 3:03:24 PM
All Cinelli stems whether steel or aluminium took bars with 26.4mm diameter centres until recently. I think they have now adopted the 3TTT 26.0mm standard – after all they are all part of the same Columbo group in Italy.






MISC:   backwards drive train posted by: Mark Roberts on 4/15/2000 at 2:28:42 PM
have a schwinn 10-speed but the drive train is oppisate of the standard 10-speed,It was a fixed rear cluster and a freewheel front sprocket. the sprocket, chain and rear wheel all move at the same time when in motion except the crank .does any one out there know anything about this odd ball schwinn.....any info. would be great... thanks


   RE:MISC:   backwards drive train posted by Keith on 4/17/2000 at 11:53:26 AM
The system you describe was used with the Shimano "Positron" gearing system, an early indexed shifing mechanism. I believe Suburbans and World Tourists were spec'd with it for a couple of years. The idea was to allow shifting while not pedaling. I have a bike I keep for guests with Positron, and I've never had a problem with it, though it's kinda scary to think what would happen if something jammed in the back (see how much I value my guests?).

   RE:RE:MISC:   backwards drive train posted by Oscar on 4/17/2000 at 2:33:58 PM
Deluxe Varsities also had Positron in some years. I think there was some chain tensioning device (like a derailleur) that kept the pant legs from being chewed if they got into the chain.

Keep it in good working order because you'll have a heckuva time finding Positron parts!

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   backwards drive train posted by Karl on 4/18/2000 at 7:43:11 AM
Shimano called this their "Front Freewheel" system. It's sort of a seperate thing from the Positron; either one could be used alone, though Schwinns at least often have both. Anyway, the rear cluster has a clutch that will let the cogs slip in case something gets caught in the chain (so you can't use it to make a multi-speed fixed-gear).

The idea of the Front Freewheel was so you could shift while coasting. I don't why anyone thought that was such a hot idea, though.

   RE:MISC:   backwards drive train posted by Keith on 4/18/2000 at 9:40:41 AM
Karl's right -- I've seen the Shimano "free cranks" without Positron (I have a low-end Panasonic like that), though I haven't seen Positron without the front freewheel.

   RE:MISC:   backwards drive train posted by Fred on 4/19/2000 at 8:40:20 PM
Karl is right on with his description of the FFS and Positron systems. I have both a World Tourist and a Suburban with these systems and both work very well. In my opinion the Positron system is conceptually superior to placing the indexing function in the shifting levers since cable effects are eliminated. This said however, modern indexing systems work very well as a result of their precision. It is unfortunate that the Positron concept was not developed further and used on higher end bikes. I am quite happy with the FFS system also. Shifting under load with older freewheels is not very smooth whereas the FFS allows the load to be taken off while shifting is accomplished.

   RE:MISC:   backwards drive train posted by Morgan on 4/21/2000 at 1:05:35 PM
I think the cluster had an "emergency" feature that enabled one to continue coasting if something did get stuck in it. It was pretty stiff, so it wouldn't work on the stand, but would bring you to a slow stop if something hung up on the road.

Morgan






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Gitane 10 speed, Information? posted by: Skip Echert on 4/15/2000 at 12:55:18 PM
Hello - can anyone help me with information on this Gitane 10-speed road bike? I recently noticed it at the side of the road, marked only with a big "FREE" sign. (I couldn't pass it up, but had no owner to thank.)
Light green frame with gold paint in lug windows, ½ chrome stays. Serial No. 54139 stamped into right rear (flimsy) dropout. On the seat tube foil wrap" "GITANE" "CAMPIONS du MONDE" "?CORDM?N de I'HEURE" (?=letters missing). Markings on top inside of downtube "TUBES" "FLASH". On fork - shield with "Fuseaux" above "DURIFORT" and some other word below in script. Pivo stem, no- name Al. handlebar, NERVAR steel 3 arm cottered crank set. EXCELTOO "Competition" aluminum hubs. Threads on right side of rear hub for freewheel AND on left side of hub (as spare?). Hubs held on with wing nuts (very cool). REGINA steel 27"rims, stainless, double butted, spokes, 3 pointed star on spoke heads. Campy (Old) Record rear derailleur with marking "13 - 36" on inside of body. MAFAC brake levers with green rubber half hoods (mostly gone). MAFAC "Dural Forge" calipers.

The Campy derailleur (in perfect shape) dates to mid-to late- 60s, but did it come originally on the bike? Any information - date of manufacture, model name, original selling price, higher and lower Gitane models of the time, etc, would be greatly appreciated.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Gitane 10 speed, Information? posted by Oscar on 4/16/2000 at 8:38:57 PM
Lucky guy! I can't give you much detail beyond what you alreadly know. All those components are above average for its time - and everything's worth keeping.

About that hub - it's called a flip-flop. You can screw a freewheel into one end and a fixed gear cog onto the other. If you look closely, you may see a smaller threaded area on the outside of the "spare" threading. This is for the fixed gear lock ring.

Congratulatons on the cool bike. (Mafac brakes are cool, too.) Price was right, huh?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Gitane 10 speed, Information? posted by Keith on 4/17/2000 at 6:15:04 AM
I had a Gitane Interclub as a kid. It was a low-end bike but had sew-up tires. As I recall, "Durifort" was the name of their plain seamless steel tubing, used on the lower end models. The other 70s models I remember are the Grand Prix, which was lower than the Interclub and had clinchers, and the Tour de France, which was essentially a Peugeot PX-10, with 531 frame, and Stronglight/Simplex/Maffac. They also made a "professional" all Campy model, the name of which escapes me. All-in-all, I would think they are viewed like other mass-produced European bikes, like Peugeot and Raleigh, that were imported during the early 70s bike boom. If yours has Durifort tubing, then it is probably a low end model, and the Campy Record rear is an add-on (but a great find!). Another way to confirm if it's lower end is to check the rear dropouts. The better models had name brand dropouts with built-in derailleur hanger (Simplex or Campy), I believe, while cheaper ones had thinner, plain, no-name dropouts without a built-in hanger.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Gitane 10 speed, Information? posted by Skip on 4/22/2000 at 8:34:56 PM
Oscar - you are right about the threads, inner and outer. Do you know when these were made? 60s?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Gitane 10 speed, Information? posted by Keith on 4/24/2000 at 8:36:52 AM
The more I read your description the more curious I am about your bike. The chrome rear stays indicate at least a mid-range model, but Durifort and plain, thin droputs preclude a top-end model, I think. 10 speeds means it's probably no older than 60s unless all of that is add-on stuff. I've known about flip-flop hubs on Brit club bikes for a some time, but I've never encountered one that would accomodate a 5-speed freewheel and a fixed gear. And I didn't realize these were featured on prodiction bikes as late as the 60s. An interesting find.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Gitane 10 speed, Information? posted by Oscar on 4/26/2000 at 8:08:15 AM
Skip,

I've seen a fixed/free hub on a Raleigh 10-speed. I'm not sure of the date of this bike, but the best guess for it is from the early 70's (divining the date from the Simplex derailleurs, Weinmann centerpull brakes, GB stem, etc.) It's always possible that the wheel was a later upgrade, however.

The Raleigh in question is homeless, sitting at a bike rack at the University unlocked. It's been there for over a year that I know of. It's in pretty good condition and I can't believe it hasn't been pinched.






WANTED:   60 cm 531 road frame posted by: Keith on 4/11/2000 at 6:25:30 AM
I'm looking for a decent 60cm 531 db road frame and fork to hang Campy NR groupo on. No dents, rust, or crashes, and frame must be true.


   RE:WANTED:   60 cm 531 road frame posted by Keith on 4/18/2000 at 6:55:12 AM
I've arranged to buy a Paramount. Thanks to those of you who responded! Steel is real.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Campania Gran Sport posted by: Mark R. on 4/9/2000 at 9:37:23 PM
Hi,

Recently i picked up a bike as follows:

Cost to me: $45 Canadian
Make: Campania
Model: Gran Sport
Colour: Yellow with chrome stays
Equipment: Suntour VGT Luxe rear der., campania brakes (c. pull), 27" alloy japanese wheels (can't rem. name), H. McIver double-butted tubing (decal on frame) the rest is mostly SR Royal or Sakae.

I've a feeling it may be a Japanese bike designed to look Italian.
After extensive searches on the WWW i have found very little info'.
Do you know anything about this manufacturer?
Thanks very much for your help.

Mark

PS I completed a 5/20k Duathlon on the bike here in Vancouver, BC just yesterday. The bike performed beautifully, no wobbling around what were some pretty fast corners and a nice smooth ride.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Campania Gran Sport posted by Peter Grenader on 5/2/2000 at 11:19:42 AM
The Campania bike was indeed made in the Orient, not sure where though. It was the signature brand for a guy by the name Ray Campania, who owned a bike store in the San Fernando Valley (LA) by the name of Campy's Bikes. How do I know this? I worked there in the summer of 1972 as a repair person, THAT's how i know this.

Oddly enough, I also worked for the McIver you mentioned, the tubing manufacture, so to speak. They were on Hayvenhurst Ave in Van Nuys (LA) were nothing more than an outfit that slapped together low end bikes with their name on the downtube, but they didn't make a thing, much the same as McIver. They also served as a parts distributor.

So there you go.

Regards, Peter Grenader






AGE / VALUE:   F.A. Lipscombe posted by: Colin on 4/5/2000 at 7:18:13 PM
Howdy from North of the 49th. Last year I scooped a sweet-looking English touring bike with FA Lipscombe on the downtube. Wierd name, great bike. Tall plush and overbuild, just like a Rolls.
While having no clue who Frank Lipscombe, of 185-187 Markhouse Rd. Walthamstow, E.17 is/was (as per the head decal), here is what I do know: brakes-Mafac centerpull; hubs-high flange Record; H set-Record; R derailleur-Nuovo Record, F der.-Strata (?); crank-Stata triple 48/45/42. Frame is oven-baked yellow with 3/4 chrome on th3e stays and fork. Black brush pinstriping around lugs and fancy design on seatstay caps. Oh yeah, and full 531!
Although the saddle and bar tape had been changed, judging by the state of drivetrain and graese in bearings this bike has 300k on it, if that. I threw on a new Brooks--the one with the big brass rivets--cause it was only right. I cahnged the gearing with a Rally unit from Bicycle Classics and a new Mailliard 14-32 5spd I found in a pawn shop.I've tried to keep it 'full retro'.
I've come to love this bike; it eats rough roads for lunch, and will be my faithful touring companion for many years to come. SO, does anyone have more info on this make? From what I know, it's maybe a '67 or a '69. Can anyone help me out? I can't find anything on the Web.
Colin.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   F.A. Lipscombe posted by Bikerdude on 4/7/2000 at 5:55:54 AM
Did you search the archives on this site? I remember a while back people were listing all of the English bicycle makers they could think of. Maybe Lipscombe is in there.






AGE / VALUE:   Hercules posted by: Pee-Wee on 4/5/2000 at 7:38:16 PM
I just picked up a Hercules bicycle (or so it says on the badge) today for $20. Was this a good deal? How old is this thing? It has good black paint, presentable chrome, a diamond frame, Sturmey-Archer 3-speed rear hub, two-tone saddle, and pinstriped fenders. On the chainguard, there is a small emblem on the top left corner that says "AMF", and in the center, in big cursive letters, Hercules is written. Any help appreciated.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hercules posted by Oscar on 4/7/2000 at 6:12:15 PM
I can't tell you much, but you can read the date - it's stamped on the hub. Any working bike that you can pick up for a sawbuck is a good deal. When you go around riding, all the guys on mountainbikes will stare pleasantly and unconsciously ache inside for the soft steady ride they're missing.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hercules posted by Sam on 4/26/2000 at 6:33:40 PM
Those 3 speed hubs have a date stamp on them that helps date the bike if the hub is original






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   James Fothergill frames posted by: Paul on 4/1/2000 at 2:53:57 AM
I have a 1960's English hand built frame. It was built by James Fothergill of Liverpool, England. I bought it second hand in the late '60's and I don't know who the first owner was. In 1980 I wrote to James Fothergill and I still have his hand written reply, but he was unable to give me the frame's history as all his records had been lost. He did say that he still built the occasional frame (In 1980). I've never seen another Fothergill, and never found anyone who owns one.
Anyone know anything about them? It's a beautiful piece of work, and I'll never part with it, but I'd like to know more about these frames generally. Until yesterday I was still riding it, but as I stood to climb a short hill one of the front fork drop outs sheared at the point it is brazed into the fork tube. Well... after almost forty years of use I think the guarantee might have run out so I won't be complaining to Fothergills. I'm presently looking at my options and taking the opportunity to strip the frame and do a complete rebuild.
Anyone here come across Fothergill frames?
Paul.







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Brools Professional Saddles posted by: Dave Shoe on 4/1/2000 at 12:51:46 AM
I'm trying to learn a little about the large copper rivet Brooks Professional saddle that currently sells for about $79. It's been around for 30 years plus, but I've never been very knowlegdeable about them.

My question relates to the "Pre-Softened" impression on the top of the leather. I don't recall seeing this impression back about 25 years ago and wonder when (what year) it first showed up.

Also, I wonder how easy it is to find the non-"Soft"-embossed version of the large-rivet Brooks Pro saddles and how useful the leather is after many years pass. I also wonder when/if it's production was stopped.

If anyone has any info, I'm very interested to learn more.

Shoe.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Brools Professional Saddles posted by Mike Q. on 4/1/2000 at 7:49:42 AM
Contact Wallingford bicycle parts at:

http://wallbike.com/About.html

They're the only Brooks experts that I know of.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Brools Professional Saddles posted by Dave Shoe on 4/1/2000 at 12:05:47 PM
Thanks for pointing me to this incredible resource.

Shoe.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Brools Professional Saddles posted by Franco on 4/3/2000 at 5:22:38 AM
In the archives on this site there are some discussions about reconditioning leather saddles.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Brools Professional Saddles posted by Austin Boyd on 5/27/2000 at 8:58:27 PM
Shoe

I have a Brooks saddle such as you described on the Raleigh Pro that you helped me on in mail above... saddle is still working great now 23 years later. I made one major mistake with it, though... have applied leather care on and off over the years to the top but never to the bottom... began to notice that the road salt and water spinning off the tire has now "dry rotted" the underside and the leather, while still supple, is dry enough to tear around the rivets... have applied more softening to keep some of the life in the saddle, but I fear that unless you keep some silicone or other repellant on the bottom of the leather, its life will end within 30 years... not a bad problem to have... how many of us have ridden the same saddle that long. Give me a Brooks leather saddle any day...






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Don Farrell identification posted by: Bob on 3/28/2000 at 1:17:52 PM
Last year I was given a bicycle by a friend of my father's - more or less complete. The bike is a Don Farrell, which was given to him in the mid 60's to take to the dump on behalf of a friend. He decided to keep the bike and 'restored' it to a useable condition. Time has taken it's toll and it now needs rebuilding.

I would like some information on this bike, ie. date of manufacture, model, etc. I am especially interested in colour as no original paint exists, and transfer detail if any - Don Farrell was based in Edgeware, Middlesex, England. As far as I am aware the bike was already around 10 years old when it was to be dumped.

The frame has odd fork ends at the rear, the right one is a Benelux and the left one is a Cyclo. It has brazed on cable guides on the top of the bottom bracket for both front and rear changers, and it has a curved brake cable stop between the seat stays. It also has a brazed on gearlever boss. I am assuming it is 531 but am not certain. The lugs are fairly ornate but not fussy. The frame number is stamped on the underside of the bottom bracket.

The wheels have Normandy large flange hubs with round holes as opposed to slots and it has Wiennman rims. The rear hub is double sided for both fixed wheel and free wheel with Campag q/r skewers. The rear hub is 40 hole, and the front is 36.

Brakes: Centre pull Coureur 66 calipers
Levers: GB Superhood with adjusters
Seat: Brookes leather cutaway
Stem: GB forged Hiduminrum with drilling for front brake cable stop
Seat Post: Birmalux alloy
Handlebars: I.T.M. alloy
Rear Changer: Campag gran sport (steel)

If anybody has any information however small, I would be very pleased to hear from you. Thank you, Bob


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Don Farrell identification posted by ART on 3/29/2000 at 7:05:55 AM
It sounds like what you have is a fine English bike made by a small bike builder. I contacted an English fellow once and he told me that between the 30's and 60's there were hundreds of small bicycle makers in England making high quality machines. Few of the bikes made it to the states. He said that bikes were made to be used as commuters--racks and fenders were added when needed. The bikes were stripped down for weekend racing. Your rear hub confirms that. Fixed for racing, geared for city riding. I wanted one of the bikes he had but shipping pushed the price beyond my means. I have his name. I had to call him, but it was worth it. He is Alexander von Tutschek. fax is 01225-464355 voice is 01225-465532. Bath Eng. His as is on the Bicycle trader site. Let me know what you find out.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Don Farrell identification posted by ChristopherRobin on 3/29/2000 at 9:11:25 AM
I am sure Don Farrel whomever he is, would be glad that this bike did not go into the trash! I am sorry I am not familar with this one, But I will be researching it now. I am currious and wish you could post a picture for the database here. This is definitly a keeper, I have never heard of this make before and I have been around a bit.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Don Farrell identification posted by ChristopherRobin on 3/29/2000 at 9:16:51 AM
Hidiuminium alloy componets such as seat posts, handlebar stems. and the brakes were fitted on Raleigh's very finest lightweight racing/ touring bikes. That should tell you something. Alexander is one of the best to ask about this.Good find,great machine.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Don Farrell identification posted by Bob on 3/29/2000 at 11:57:10 AM
Thank's for your replies,
My wife and I are based in southern England, the frame was painted bright yellow by the previous owner and he said there was no paint at all when he got it. I work as a coded welder and fabr so I had a fine bead blast done at work. I have the head badge which is in nearly mint condition as prev owner had removed and stored it carefully! It has a lit olympic torch on it with the legend "specialist in frame design", the address is at the bottom, coloured red and blue on a natural alloy base it is possibly annodised with the red and blue printed on top. The forks have a slim crown with a simple arched lug shape.

The rims are useless, they have large flats on both. Hubs are serviceable. Calipers and levers are ok, all the alloy needs serious fettling and polishing. The saddle is beyond redemption. The bottom bracket, headset, chainset and pedals are not correct. The rear mech has lost most of its plating but is in good order apart from that. I am not interested in selling at any price as I intend to use it, I am an enthusiast not a collector.

The plan is to run the bike with sprint rims, ss spokes and fixed wheel. I will fit a cartridge bb and an alloy roller bearing headset,TA or stronglight chainset. I am looking for a sympathetic appearance but modern where it counts. I will ring Alex and send a pic when I can.....Bob

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Don Farrell identification posted by Fred on 3/31/2000 at 4:47:37 PM
Is being an enthusiast and a collector mutually exclusive? I think a lot of us are both.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Don Farrell identification posted by ChristopherRobin on 4/1/2000 at 11:36:35 AM
It is important to say "enthusiast" and do not use the work "collector" when you are trying to buy something.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Don Farrell identification posted by Bob on 4/1/2000 at 2:54:24 PM
Hello again,

I have left a message for Alexander but have not yet received a reply, am looking forward to hearing from him and will report any results.

Re: your message, Fred:
Sorry if I was misunderstood, I simply wanted to state that I am a simple enthusiast and am not motivated by profit in any way. You have a point though - there are genuine enthusiasts who like to collect.

All the best, Bob.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Why does my freewheel wobble? posted by: Oscar on 3/27/2000 at 9:00:43 PM
Why does my freewheel wobble? When I spin the rear wheel the rim and hub run true, but the freewheel has a bit of an up and down wobble. I've never felt it on a ride, but it looks funny when I have the bike on the stand.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Why does my freewheel wobble? posted by Morgan on 3/28/2000 at 11:35:07 AM
All freewheels wobble--at least, all that I've observed. I think it happens because it's nearly impossible to get the freewheel body forging perfectly aligned relative to the tap.

I was a Schwinn dealer in the 80s, and had a couple of occasions when customers came in to complain about freewheel wobble. I invited them to take down any bike in the shop and observe the wobble. Newer cassette-type freewheels may get around this problem, but the fact is that it has NO discernible effect on the bike's performance.

Morgan

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Why does my freewheel wobble? posted by Oscar on 3/29/2000 at 2:44:35 PM
I feel better already!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Why does my freewheel wobble? posted by ed on 4/22/2000 at 12:28:35 PM
OK guys, use your imagination. As the wheel spins the hub Is turning at an eliptical motion called run-out. Being attatached to the freewheel, that force is propogated though and is absorbed within the internal slop of the freewheel mechanism. The root cause of this runout is a bent axle. Replace the axle and you will notice that your problem will be minimized. Also inspect your hub at the bearing cup area. There could be hairline cracks on them. This will cause the same effect.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Why does my freewheel wobble? posted by ed on 4/22/2000 at 12:39:30 PM
OK guys, use your imagination. As the wheel spins the hub Is turning at an eliptical motion called run-out. Being attatached to the freewheel, that force is propogated though and is absorbed within the internal slop of the freewheel mechanism. The root cause of this runout is a bent axle. Replace the axle and you will notice that your problem will be minimized. Also inspect your hub at the bearing cup area. There could be hairline cracks on them. This will cause the same effect.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Why does my freewheel wobble? posted by ChristopherRobin on 4/25/2000 at 10:50:55 AM
I can just see myself lying awake at 3 a.m. staring up at the cieling wondering this!






WANTED:   OLD MULTI SPEED OR TRACK BIKES posted by: Ray on 3/25/2000 at 4:20:57 PM
I am looking for old racing bikes with fixed, 2 or 3 speed derrailuer setups.
Will even look at above 3 speed but must be unusual. Condition not
important if I like the bike. E-mail me with what you have. I have many bikes
and parts for trade or will buy outright Also looking for the older derrailuers
by themselves. Thanks