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Archived: Vintage Lightweights







AGE / VALUE:   JC Penny 10speed Racer posted by: Trevor on 10/24/2002 at 12:04:20 AM
This bike is really wierd. For starters it has a Shimano Disc brake in the rear! Its got a Tourney front brake, and Shimano Eagle rear derrailur. This bike really confuses me, cause its got some decent parts on it, then a Disc Brake? And to top it all off the frame has one-piece cranks? Can someone tell me what I have?







WANTED:   Campagnolo Pedals - C-RECORD, CHORUS or VICTORY posted by: kevin on 10/23/2002 at 6:11:21 PM
Looking for Campagnolo C-RECORD, CHORUS or VICTORY pedals WITH CLIPS. Not the clipless versions...

Any condition will be considered.

Thanks!







AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Traveler Vintage? posted by: Richard on 10/23/2002 at 5:02:18 PM
I got an awesome deal for two bikes a Schwinn Traveler (E738446) and a Shogun Custom Sport (x6d2791) for $2.50 (local pickup only) on Ebay. Im curious to the age of the Traveler because its made of True Temper 4130 Dub Butt tubing and says USA, the round headtube badge says schwinn chicago, its a lugged frame with dia-comp side pull brakes suzue hubs, I dont think the crank/deraileurs are stock. I thought that panasonic or giant made these type of frames for schwinn but I believe this is US made, anybody know?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Traveler Vintage? posted by Gralyn on 10/23/2002 at 7:58:53 PM
I have one, too. But...I paid $6.99 for mine. Mine leads me to believe that it is made in USA. I know there were Schwinns with "Schwinn Chicago" on the head badge...but then on the frame - a sticker for "made in Taiwan". But mine has a sticker on the frame that proclaims "Made in USA". It's one of my favorites......a really good bike....and light. I have since added a 3rd chainring to mine for some awesome lower gearing.

I believe mine is an '86 model. There should be a 4-digit number stamped on the head badge. Per the Schwinn serial # charts - it should tell you when it was made.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Traveler Vintage? posted by Richard on 10/23/2002 at 9:56:48 PM
I figure its a eightys something just by the brakes and graphics. I'll have to look under the head badge for a number. The only seat tube sticker is the true temper one and it says USA, but doesnt designate made in or designed in or if it just reffers to the tubing and not assembly. The archivaling (new word?) of bikes is kind of enjoyable...






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AGE / VALUE:   MEMORY LANE SWAP MEET posted by: Kevin K on 10/23/2002 at 11:51:28 AM
Hi all.Memory lanes swap meet is this weekend. Some venders will be showing up today, most will be there and set up tomorrow sometime.Weather. Well Thursday could be a bit cold and rainy. Friday a shower or two but warmer. Saturday looks to be aok. More and more lightweight items showing up. So enjoy the show. Kevin K







AGE / VALUE:   Is a firestone 500 a collectable item? Value? posted by: Jazzysmom on 10/23/2002 at 5:48:47 AM
My grandfather owns a Firestone 500 mens bicycle. It is very well maintained with orginal gold paint etc. Does this bike have any value?







AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Caliente posted by: Christie Foster on 10/22/2002 at 10:22:06 PM
Hi! I am seeking info on Schwinn Caliente. It is a female model and supposedly in mint condition. Will someone please send a pic and tell me value. Thank you.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Caliente posted by Bryant on 10/23/2002 at 11:15:27 AM
Hi Christie,

I believe the Caliente was the bike between the Varsity and the Continental, came out in 78 or 79. You can get all the info at the Schwinn Lightweight Data book at http://www.geocities.com/sldatabook/cover.html

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Caliente posted by Keith on 10/23/2002 at 1:17:03 PM
The only Caliente I've seen was at a local Schwinn shop. It had 24" wheels -- I have no idea whether this was specific to that model. Lugged steel, made in Taiwan. I can't recall whether it was friction or index, but it had downtube shifters. The shop had it "on sale" for many years for $175.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Caliente posted by Bryant on 10/23/2002 at 4:09:57 PM
Yeah, Schwinn made some children's models of the Varsity, Caliente and I believe the Continental. 15 1/2 in frames and 24in wheels. Everything else was the same. I saw a Caliente at the Thrift store sometime last year selling for $15. I had enough Schwinns and didn't want to mess with the Front Freewheel system at that time. If it is mint I guess a collector might bid on it but a womens model won't bring as much as a mens model. Keep an eye on Ebay I've seen Calientes there often enough.






MISC:   Derailleur chain, When is the breaking point size wise??? posted by: Robert on 10/22/2002 at 8:02:28 PM
Where is the division to be made as to what chain you can use where? Can a chain that works on a 5 speed freewheel type bike be used on a 7 speed?
Example , you have an old "5 speed" freewheel equipped bike and you get a good freehub wheel thet is for 7 cogs. You already have a new 5 speed chain. Can you use it on the freehub setup ? All this is for use with friction shifters.


   RE:MISC:   Derailleur chain, When is the breaking point size wise??? posted by Oscar on 10/22/2002 at 11:04:26 PM
The same chain will work with 5 - 8 speed rears in friction and index. They will work on freehubs or freewheels. They also work if you have 1, 2, or 3 chainrings on your crank. 9 speeds and 10 speed have their own expensive chains.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Derailleur chain, When is the breaking point size wise??? posted by Warren on 10/23/2002 at 3:14:40 AM
I think there are a number of 5 speed chains that do not work on 8 speed cassettes. Most even?

I had a look at the new 10 speed chain the other day...lightweight jewellry! I'll never buy one. I stop at 7 speed super record.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Derailleur chain, When is the breaking point size wise??? posted by Wings on 10/23/2002 at 5:17:08 AM
It is true that any chain will work. However, with a 7 speed system one will notice greatly improved shifting with a chain made for 7 speeds (Shimmano IG series, or Sram chains, etc.). I have used the cheap multspeed chains and then on the same system installed the IG chains and there is a big difference maily because I think the 7 speed chains are more flexible. My experience has been wish SIS systems. With friction shifters I don't think it would be that noticable but I still think there would be an improvement.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Derailleur chain, When is the breaking point size wise??? posted by Steven on 10/23/2002 at 1:13:17 PM
Many pre-1980's chains initially intended for use on 5-blocks will not work on blocks with anything more than 6 cogs. There are two reasons for this: the width of the chains will not fit between two 'ultra' spaced close ratio cogs (for wide ratio cogsets, they generally will as the chain will simply lie on the outboard side of the cog) and secondly the chain does not have sufficient side to side flexibility to allow the chain to make use of the full range of the cogs. Many of the new wonder chains will not work on older cogs as they are simply too narrow.

   RE:MISC:   Derailleur chain, When is the breaking point size wise??? posted by Keith on 10/23/2002 at 1:31:17 PM
Some of the replacement chains available today -- such as the 6-speed rated Sachs or KMC "Z Chain" will work on anything from 5 to 7, but I'd still use the spec'd width for any application. As Steven points out, modern bushingless chains are far more flexible than the old 5-speed Regina chains. Any index system benefits from a modern, bushingless chain with the correct pin width. Z-chains are cheap -- about $10 for the nicest ones -- and I've found them for as low as $5 at one LBS. Do yourself and your drivetrain a huge favor -- get a NEW chain, and get the RIGHT size. The same is true of the freewheel if chain skips on any of the cogs. SunRace freewheels are $10-12. Also keep all parts of the drivetrain clean and lubed with something better then WD-40. TriFlow is messy and picks up dirt quickly, but it offers good protection. I find waxes don't last long enough. The best I've found so far is Pro Link. All of this matters not only to shifting performance but also the life of your chainrings, which aren't cheap to replace. P.S. This weekend I pulled the cogs off a worn-out freewheel and hung them and some worn out chainrings with fishing line from a shot rim. Nice windchimes!






AGE / VALUE:   Paturaud toe clips posted by: Gralyn on 10/22/2002 at 5:00:44 PM
I was looking on Classicrendezvous.com and looking at the section for "Market Highs". I noticed some Paturaud toe clips. A NOS pair sold for $128. These were Paturaud "Special". That name seemed familiar. Maybe it was some pedals, or some toe clips. I checked when I was out there....and it happend to be on my old Hercules - it had Paturaud "Special" toe clips. Of course mine are no NOS - but is there anything special about them? Are they rare? Worth anything? Old?


     Paturaud toe clips posted by John E on 10/23/2002 at 2:27:15 AM
I have no idea what is so special about Paturaud toe clips. On eBay, the going rate for new-in-box aluminum Campag. clips is well under $15 per pair.






MISC:   Jack Taylor tandem posted by: David on 10/22/2002 at 11:04:07 AM
Wish I had the dough. JT touring tandem; lights, racks, fenders, etc. "Ken Taylor's own." Seller sez $280 shipping by air to USA.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=725044427&rd=1







FOR SALE:   INCH PITCH TRACK SPROCKETS posted by: Ian on 10/21/2002 at 11:47:54 PM
Hi, I have three sets of 1" pitch front sprockets to suit Williams pattern five bolt cranks. Each set is one 22t and one 24t sprocket and I will throw in a new set of the square head bolts with each set. These were commonly used on English fixed wheel track bikes from the 1930's to the 50's. I could put them on eBay but thought I would offer them here for a week first. US$20 per set plus postage (from New Zealand). I would also trade rear sprockets or bits for Monark Silver Kings or Monark Gene Autry. Email with an address for a postage quote or a photo if interested. Cheers, Ian.







FOR SALE:   INCH PITCH TRACK SPROCKETS posted by: Ian on 10/21/2002 at 11:47:54 PM
Hi, I have three sets of 1" pitch front sprockets to suit Williams pattern five bolt cranks. Each set is one 22t and one 24t sprocket and I will throw in a new set of the square head bolts with each set. These were commonly used on English fixed wheel track bikes from the 1930's to the 50's. I could put them on eBay but thought I would offer them here for a week first. US$20 per set plus postage (from New Zealand). I would also trade rear sprockets or bits for Monark Silver Kings or Monark Gene Autry. Email with an address for a postage quote or a photo if interested. Cheers, Ian.







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Wyoming Raleigh posted by: jonathan on 10/21/2002 at 6:10:12 PM
Any info about this Raleigh model would be appreciated. I bought one for $5 most of the bike is in great shape, I bought it mainly for the frame. Thanks







AGE / VALUE:   Royce Union? How old is it? posted by: Trevor martin on 10/21/2002 at 5:28:47 PM
I have this Royce Union that my Grandpa gave me and Id like to find out how old it is. it Has a 5 speed rear cassette. The derrailiur was really wierd and had dual cables connected to a throttle grip shifer. There is the numbers "333" scattered through out the bike. Hubs,pie plate, cable clamps, and the end of the grips. It has fenders,chrome chainstay, cottered cranks, and white wall tires. Araya rims and cantilever brakes I think. The serial number is; 1r25671. I have pictures of it and if anyone can inform me of the age of the bike I would appreciate it. THnaks


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Royce Union? How old is it? posted by Stacey on 10/21/2002 at 9:17:12 PM
The 333 stamping is indicative 70's(?) Shimano. Royce Union is generally associated with lower end department store bikes, but there were a few quality models produced under that marque. Absent of any "Tube Decals", weight is usually a good indicator of quality... less = better.

What has my curiosity piqued is the dual cable shifting set-up. I assume this is a push/pull type of affair? Photos would be cool!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Royce Union? How old is it? posted by Trevor on 10/22/2002 at 12:07:24 AM
THe derrailur is labeled "Lark-W" It had an external tension spring and the daul cable ran parrelel all the way to the grip shifter. Its not that heavy of a bike. By comparison to my other bikes.

     Royce Union? How old is it? posted by John E on 10/22/2002 at 1:14:57 AM
The dual-cable Lark derailleur was Shimano's first abortive attempt at indexed shifting. The bike sounds like an ideal beater for transportation purposes.

   RE:  Royce Union? How old is it? posted by Stacey on 10/22/2002 at 11:33:30 AM
John E, so the dual cable Lark pre-dates the Positron/FFS? From what I've read at Sheldon's site the Positron was Shimano's 'first' index failure.

Oh well, something new learned, cool. Thanks!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Royce Union? How old is it? posted by Trevor on 10/22/2002 at 9:27:00 PM
Any idea roughly when it was made? Judjing from the Lark-WAnyone interested in owning it? I need space in my garage. I would have thought it to be a desired bike by some collector? Lemme know if anyones interested in it.






AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by: John on 10/20/2002 at 9:26:53 PM
HI, I got a Motobecane Mirage ten speed, with 2040 decaled on the down tube. Any ideas as to age or value?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by JOhn on 10/20/2002 at 9:31:29 PM
It has some scratches, and a little rusting on the chromed handlebars. The handlebars have a kind of permanent molded rubber imitation tape on them.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by Richard on 10/20/2002 at 11:31:58 PM
What are the components: crank, brake calipers/levers, rims, hubs, derailluers? Paint scheme: color, graphics? Info is good...

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by Gralyn on 10/21/2002 at 12:57:29 PM
I have one, too. Mine is 25" frame, silver with some pin striping - lettering. Sun Tour, Rigida Rims, I think it has dia-compe brakes (center pull). I'm going to sell or trade mine - because it's too tall for me. But, I also have a Motobecane Nomade, which is the bottom of the line bike...and my Mirage doesn't seem all that much better....a little better...but not that much. I don't think there any significant value to the Mirage.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by Richard on 10/21/2002 at 4:41:11 PM
I have two mirages, one 53cm silver w/black pinstripes and one 62cm bronze w/gold pinstripes. Both have a dealer sticker w/purchase date scribed on them that say 5/30/75 and have the following features: says motobecane made in france on down tube;winged M and 1020 tube stays fork stickers on seat tube, winged M on side of fork, chrome fork crown and half chrome fork legs, suntour compV front and Vgt rear deraileurs, suntour stem mount powershifters, diacomp brakelevers w/suicide, cottered steel crank and steel rings (type?), rigida chromix rims with mallard normandy hubs, suntour 14x32 freewheel, weinmann 999 centerpull brakes. Both are in very good condition (after complete recondition) and I'd be lucky to get $50 each for them. I'd rather hang them on the wall for show and take down to ride every now and then than sell for less than $100 (too many hours spent w/ rubbing compound and 0000 steel wool) LOL...

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by Gralyn on 10/21/2002 at 6:52:13 PM
Yes, I feel the same way about many of my bikes. They're not worth that much - but I wouldn't want to sell them for what they're really worth - I'd rather keep them hanging around - and ride them whenever I want. I put a lot time and care into each one - a lot of polishing, etc. Took really old, crappy-looking bikes - and made them shine again! I would sell many of them - but the price would have to be right.