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Archived: Vintage Lightweights







AGE / VALUE:   Interesting schwinn L/W posted by: sam on 11/3/2002 at 4:30:17 AM
I'm not biddin on this but sure looks interesting to me.I did rebuild a pre-war L/W schwinn and it didn't have the headset or chainring this frame has,could this be an early cro-mol frame? .http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=731276852


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Interesting schwinn L/W posted by Oscar on 11/3/2002 at 8:14:27 PM
That bike would clean up really nice. I'm a sucker for peaked fenders.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Interesting schwinn L/W posted by Kevin K on 11/3/2002 at 10:04:27 PM
Hi all. A man at Memory Lane swap meet last weekend gave me an old Schwinn Continental frame. This frame is brazed and has a decal at the base that says seamless tubing. Color was maroon. Only basic shapes remain of the decals however they look like they were beauties when new. This bike also has a 3 piece chromed cottered crankset. No wheels. Just frame and fork. Anyone have any idea what decade this bike was from? The idea of building this up with the peaked fenders would look hot. Were these single or 3 speed bikes? Thanks, Kevin K

   RE: Old Continental posted by Eric Amlie on 11/4/2002 at 2:31:01 PM
Hi Kevin, I would guess that your Continental is probably late forties and is probably chrome-moly tubing. I know they came as 3 speeds. Not sure if they were offered as a one speed. I saw one on ebay a couple years ago that was a 3 speed with a 3 cog rear cluster and Cyclo-Benelux rear deraileur that made it a 9 speed. Nice find!






AGE / VALUE:   PUCH road bike posted by: Elvis on 11/2/2002 at 7:54:35 PM
Hi, all. I'm trying to figure out when my old Puch was made. I know it's 1970's sometime, but I'm not sure when. It's grey and black. A sticker on the top of the seat tube right under the top tube says "Puch" and "100 years" in a banner. Any idea of the manufacture year? The bike is all Shimano Dura-Ace two tone [a lot of black, some natural metal] except for the brake levers which are Shimano 105 and look like they were added in the late 80's.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   PUCH road bike posted by Skip Echert on 11/3/2002 at 5:41:27 AM
Hello Elvis -
If all else fails, you can date the shimano components. Have a look at

cheers,
skip

   PUCH road bike posted by John E on 11/5/2002 at 10:26:05 PM
If the Shimano 105 components are original, and particularly if the freewheel has 6 cogs, the bike is probably from the 1980s, which would be consistent with the "100 years" decal.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   PUCH road bike posted by Patrick Lavery on 11/9/2002 at 4:25:45 AM
The www.vintage-trek site also gives date code information
on Diacompte brake components and Suntour deraileurs. For those of you who have a vintage bike with Suntour deraileurs , theres a date chart by model number at
www.firstflightbikes.com/suntour.htw

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   PUCH road bike posted by Patrick Lavery on 11/9/2002 at 4:29:28 AM
Correction the web address is www.firstflightbikes.com/suntour.htm
I shouldn't be left near a keyboard at this hour of the day






AGE / VALUE:   BRITISH HERCULES posted by: IAN ELLIOTT on 11/2/2002 at 1:42:45 PM
HELLO, I AM TRYING TO LOCATE SERIAL NUMBERS FOR A LADIES AND CHILDS HERCULES BICYCLE CAN ANYONE HELP..
......THANKS........







AGE / VALUE:   frejus paint posted by: mark on 11/1/2002 at 11:11:37 PM
Hi i am trying to restore a Frejus in the trademark frejus, legnano greenish color i have checked numerous auto parts places and auto paint stores with no luck. It is just a few spots that need touching up. Does any one know were i can find this color. thanks


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   frejus paint posted by Kevin K on 11/2/2002 at 1:15:30 AM
Hi. I was a custom painter in the 70's so I know any color can be matched. You need to find a color book of ALL CAR MODELS produced from say the late 60's to present. A formula will exist that'll be close enough for the auto paint store to match it up from there. How the paint is sprayed will also determine if it's too light or to dark. Custom matching paint gets expensive. Good luck. Kevin K

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   frejus paint posted by Steven on 11/2/2002 at 2:14:53 AM
The problem with chartreuse is that it was created in three coats, so it is very difficult to match with only one single colour. Kevin is right that it is possible to match but with one single touch-up colour it will lose depth and or be incorrect.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   motobecane grand record posted by: jm on 11/1/2002 at 4:57:32 AM
Does anyone know if the mid 70's Mototbecane grand record frames, were built with just the three main tubes of butted reynolds tubing. I've seen early seventies frames with all double butted 531 frames and campy dropouts and the late 70's frames made from vitus tubbing. Also would anyone have any information about what year the grand record was offered in yellow with black nervex pro lugs without any chrome and a reynolds sticker (in french) with only the three main tubes double butted.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   motobecane grand record posted by Keith on 11/1/2002 at 4:30:08 PM
I have an early 70s Grand Record and enough of the tubing sticker is still there that I can say, yes, full double butted 531 (diagonal writing sticker -- it's in French though). Mine is a 1975, based on the date stamps on the components. Go to classicrendezvous.com, which has some moto pics, although I don't recall whether the Reynolds stickers are visible on the GRs.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   motobecane grand record posted by Mike Slater on 11/1/2002 at 11:01:18 PM
Should be full 531. The later frames were full Vitus 172.
FYI - the material properties (tensile strength, ect) of 531 and Vitus 172 are virtually identical. Vitus 172 are good tubes.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   motobecane grand record posted by jm on 11/3/2002 at 1:35:41 AM
The one I saw had the horizontal french reynolds decal (three tubes double butted), but no triangular reynolds fork decal ( the one at the CR site has the reynolds horizontal decal with the triangular fork decal). I read somewhere that the french bicycle makers sometimes left off the reynolds fork decals, especially the later PX-10s. Some of the french bikes from the late 70,s used vitus tubing (Peugeot, Motobecane, Bertin and Gitane) but they arent in demand as much as the reynolds frames, even though like you say the tubing is very comparible to reynolds.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   motobecane grand record posted by Mike Slater on 11/3/2002 at 5:39:55 PM
The reynolds 531 double butted tubes usually have a thinner wall thickness than the vitus 172 tubes.

Ultimate yeild strength for Reynolds 531 is 112,000 psi. 106,000 for the Vitus 172.

Vitus 971 has a slight edge in strength over Reynolds 531.

Columbus is a dead ringer for 531 as far as strength is concerned.

All this said, I don't think comparing these minor spec differences matters - all these steel alloys are top grade.

This information courtesy of "DeLong's Guide to Bicycles and Bicycling"

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   motobecane grand record posted by Keith on 11/4/2002 at 6:15:58 PM
My Grand Record has the outlines and shreds of the original 531 triangle decals on the fork blades about an inch below the crown.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   motobecane grand record posted by David on 11/8/2002 at 3:48:54 AM
My mid-70s catalog sez for the Grand Record
Approx wt: 23 lbs
Sizes: 21,23,24,25"
Frame:Reynolds 531 DB tubing throughout,Campagnolo tips
Lugs: Nervex Pro
Fork: 531/Campagnolo/chrome ends
Stronglight, Philippe, Weinmann, Campagnolo, TA, Normandy, Brooks, etc components
Black or silver paint (the pictured one is black with red trim; nice looking)






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Trek 300 (old steel bike) posted by: Ed Greenman on 11/1/2002 at 2:10:10 AM
I had an old Trek 300 road/touring bike that I loved, however, its frame broke recently. I'd like to re-build it, but need a new frame - any ideas? If I cannot find a Trek 300 frame, any decent 27 inch steel frame from that era would probably work. TIA.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Trek 300 (old steel bike) posted by Oscar on 11/1/2002 at 12:33:25 PM
Sorry about your frame. Older steel frames shouldn't be too difficult to find. What size are you looking for?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Trek 300 (old steel bike) posted by Keith on 11/1/2002 at 4:32:12 PM
Nice frames show up on eBay regularly for $50 - $100. The new Surley (tigged chromoly) frames look nice -- AEbikes sells them for about $270 I believe.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Trek 300 (old steel bike) posted by Ken on 11/1/2002 at 9:22:29 PM
Take a quick look at www.twowheelfetish.com/parts.html
This guy knows touring and has some frames to sell. No relation to me...






FOR SALE:   Same Bianchi frame and fork in Blue for sale posted by: Trevor on 10/31/2002 at 6:54:51 PM
THis is the same bike as the below ebay sale. Except its blue and about 2cm larger. Frame in good condition with Salsa cycles stickers on it. Matching fork and Tange Headset. Will sell outright. OR Looking for large quality road frame for trade or, wheels,brake systems, anything road related.
Lots of pictures can be e-mailed upon request. Thanks

Trevor Martin


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1573839747


   RE:FOR SALE:   Same Bianchi frame and fork in Blue for sale posted by Keith on 11/1/2002 at 4:35:02 PM
I couldn't get to the eBay auction you reference. Anyway, I have an excellent 61cm c-t Schwinn Super Sport, circa 1987, with Columbus Tenax Tre Tubi. velohund@yahoo.com -- I'll be away from PC until Monday.






WANTED:   TRACK / FIXED GEAR PARTS posted by: kevin on 10/31/2002 at 5:52:32 PM
hi, im looking for used track parts. hubs and cogs top the list, but also cranks, pedals and even frames are being sought. any condition or brand will be considered.

Thanks!!!







WANTED:   TRACK / FIXED GEAR PARTS posted by: kevin on 10/31/2002 at 5:52:32 PM
hi, im looking for used track parts. hubs and cogs top the list, but also cranks, pedals and even frames are being sought. any condition or brand will be considered.

Thanks!!!







FOR SALE:   Little Bianchi posted by: Keith on 10/30/2002 at 7:15:10 PM
If anyone needs a nice entry-level bike for a shorter rider, this looks pretty nice: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1573839747 No relation to seller.







AGE / VALUE:   Grab it and growl #2 posted by: Tom Findley on 10/30/2002 at 1:44:22 PM
http://www.paulbunyan.net/users/kpeterso/sunsetstrip2.JPG

Front of comic:

http://www.paulbunyan.net/users/kpeterso/sunsetstrip1.JPG
Questions:
1. What are Stu and Jeff saying to each other?
2. Does Kookie like riding a Continental in addition to the T-bucket?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Grab it and growl #2 posted by Oscar on 10/31/2002 at 4:58:12 AM
Kookie, Kookie, lend me your comb. Kookie?

No answers, just some old TV memories.






AGE / VALUE:   ADVICE ON FORK REPLACEMENT posted by: Kevin K on 10/28/2002 at 11:29:04 PM
Hi.When replacing a fork on a bike how critical is it the forks be exactly alike? The fork I've chosen to replace a damaged fork places the front tire about 1/2-9/16 of an inch further away from the down tube than the original. Problem with this set up ? Thanks, Kevin


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ADVICE ON FORK REPLACEMENT posted by Stacey on 10/28/2002 at 11:58:08 PM
Problems? Shouldn't be.
Differences? Sure.
Noticable? Maybe.

What this will do is slow down your steering due to the legenthening of the wheelbase and increased trail. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it will also tend to increase high speed stability.

All in all it shouldn't be unsafe to ride. Just bolt it up and try it out. Start out slow and play around with steering input, picking up the pace as you're comfortable. If you're not happy with the way it feels you can always try to find a fork closer to the dimensions of the original one. Good luck, let us know how you fare.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ADVICE ON FORK REPLACEMENT posted by Keith on 10/29/2002 at 2:23:33 PM
Dothe brake pads on your front brake reach the rim with that much extra length?!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ADVICE ON FORK REPLACEMENT posted by Kevin K on 10/29/2002 at 3:10:03 PM
Hi guys. The brake reach is really no problem as I'll be using the brakes that were on this fork. I'm going to have the fork chromed as painting it isn't an option.( I used to paint / customize Corvettes in the 70's ) This color would be way too expensive and time consuming to match up and spray. So if the performance of the bike becomes more relaxed all the better. Our Indian Summer should be here in a couple weeks or so. I hope to have this thing assembled enough to try out the fork. Thanks, Kevin K

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ADVICE ON FORK REPLACEMENT posted by Keith on 10/29/2002 at 8:18:41 PM
How much will re-chroming cost? Chromed carbon steel replacement forks are out there for under $20 -- http://aebike.com/site/page.cfm?PageID=30&ID=2788 I bought a new chromed chromoly fork locally for $39.95, and lugged chromoly Surley forks are also available at AEBikes for $55.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ADVICE ON FORK REPLACEMENT posted by steve on 10/29/2002 at 11:46:43 PM
It sounds like you've selected a fork with 1/2 to 9/16 more rake, assuming the length is the same. This will decrease the trail significantly. If you know the headtube angle of the frame and measure the fork rake then calculate trail as:
trail = wheel radius x tan(head tube angle) - (1/cos(head tube angle)x rake).
A bike with 700C wheels, 73 deg. steerer and 1.5" of rake will have 62mm of trail. Increase the rake to 2.1" and the trail goes to 46mm. Shorter trail values are increasingly less stable. The bike will be on the squirrely side.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   ADVICE ON FORK REPLACEMENT posted by steve on 10/29/2002 at 11:56:38 PM
Oops. Correction on my post above, use (90 - head tube angle) for head tube angle. In other words a 73 degree steerer would be input as 90-73 = 17 etc.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   ADVICE ON FORK REPLACEMENT posted by Wings on 10/30/2002 at 7:00:27 AM
Try it! You should have a more relaxed ride rather than a more twitchy ride!






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Colnago Advice posted by: brewboy on 10/28/2002 at 11:32:45 PM
I have a chance to purchase a NOS 80's Colnago International frame for $440 with shipping. It has Columbus tubing. Is this a good deal? What sort of drivetrain compatibility issues will I have with new road components(thinking Campy Chorus 9 speed). The seller says it has 130mm rear dropouts. I was going to go for a new road bike next year, but I'm a sucker for lugged steel frames. Thanks in advance!


      Colnago Advice posted by John E on 10/29/2002 at 2:23:04 AM
If it is in top-notch condition and fits your size and needs properly, go for it! I am biased, but there is nothing like a classic Italian lugged steel frame.






AGE / VALUE:   Raligh sealed hubs? posted by: Trevor on 10/28/2002 at 10:11:59 PM
THis summer while at the sibley bike depot I was looking for some wheels to put on my Schwinn I was building. I happened to find a pair of Raligh Sealed Hubs on 27inch rims. I was informend that the hubs are actually made by campy. Similar to Shimano making SChwinn parts and schwinn putting there name on them. Is this true? Whats the make/worth of my hubs?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raligh sealed hubs? posted by Oscar on 10/29/2002 at 8:03:09 PM
I think if the hubs were Campy, they would have been branded as such, since the Campy name sells itself. I've had some Raleigh branded hubs that were actually Sauze (sp?). They are nice quality hubs, if not Campy.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raligh sealed hubs? posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 10/30/2002 at 9:33:06 PM
The Raleigh sealed bearing hubs are garbage hubs compared to Campagnolo.
Campagnolo is a whole diffrent animal compared to the Raleigh sealed bearing hubs.
No comparasion between the two.






FOR SALE:   JC Penny disc brake 10speed posted by: Trevor on 10/28/2002 at 10:11:59 PM
This bike is is top notch shape and is equiped with a Schwinn rear disc brake. Bike still has manual. Anyone interested in owning this bike let me know. Have pictures too.