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AGE / VALUE:   Olmo just found posted by: Tim on 1/2/2002 at 12:55:56 AM
I just bought an Olmo bike. It has straight bars and mtn brake levers, but otherwise original. A guy had it chained up in the rain. I left a note on the bike months ago, which the owner just found. He sold it to me for Cdn $50 / US $ 35. That included a lovely purple bell.

There is no model name, just Olmo in bright yellow on light blue paint. The tubing badge is unrecognizably worn, and there are scratches / paint chips / surface rust to be repaired (not tooo bad). It has Campy Nuovo Record derailleurs and shifter levers, Modolo brakes, Miche cranks with Campy rings, Suzue hubs and Araya rims.

Any thoughts or info on the bike would be appreciated.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Olmo just found posted by Walter on 1/2/2002 at 1:16:26 AM
First check out http://sheldonbrown.com/vrbn-o-z.html#olmo.

Obviously the bars aren't original and I'm pretty confident the wheels aren't either. Modolo brakes often appeared with a Campy drivetrain so they could well be OEM. Don't know about the cranks.

How much does the bike weigh? Do the tubes have a nice "ping" if you flick one with a fingernail? Not scientific but a light frame is probably some form of Columbus. Drivetrain alone would eBay for a good bit more than you paid so in that area you did well. If it's a quality frame it should be a nice rider. Suzue hubs aren't bad if you don't want to track down an Italian wheelset. Good deal!

   good deal on Olmo posted by John E on 1/2/2002 at 1:28:08 AM
Major score; nice work! Aren't Miche parts made by Campy? [I vaguely recall a discussion about cogs.]

My 1982 Bianchi came w/ Campy NR derailleurs, Modolo brakes, and Ofmega hubs and cranks. I suspect your Olmo is of similar quality, i.e., a keeper.

   RE:good deal on Olmo posted by Steven on 1/2/2002 at 2:20:33 AM
The Olmo that you described was sold in Canada (I take that is where you live by the fact that you quote a price in C$)in the very early 80's, mostly in Toronto through some of the lesser bicycle shops (often sporting goods stores). The frame is made out of Columbus Aelle tubing (straight gauge). The angles of the bike are very good and the ride very good for the price. I got one for a friend at the time for C$450 new (manufacturers' suggested list at the time was C$650). It had Ofmega hubs, chainset, gears and pedals, Modolo brakes (their least expensive variant of the time), Ofmega steel headset, blue anodized Ambrosio clincher rims (that didn't last very well!) 3TTT bars and stem and a non-name suede saddle. The frame while not of the greatest tubing is very well designed and will hold out well. Given that the bike has seemingly been well-used, I would expect that the original rims have long since been switched. The Miche chainset also makes sense as the Ofmega are made from a very soft alloy that when let loosen will wear out very quickly (something that often occurred when the non-experts found in most of the shops where these bikes were sold assembled the bikes). Miche has nothing to do with Campagnolo. The one comes from the province of Vicenza and the other from the province of Treviso. Miche (pronounced mi-kay) was owned by a component of the Michelin family (no not the one from the tire company); the same family also was involved with Ciclo Piave, a good local brand in the Treviso area. Campagnolo is still owned and controlled by the Campagnolo family (Tullio's widow still controlled the largest part of the company through an attorney as of my last visit there 4 years ago. This to the great consternation of Valentino who is actively involved in the company.) All told, the bike is a great deal at C$ 50!

   RE:RE:good deal on Olmo posted by Steven on 1/2/2002 at 2:25:35 AM
I just remembered that some of the shipment also came with Campagnolo Gran Sport derailleurs (are you sure they are Nuovo Record?), they look very similar.

   RE:RE:RE:good deal on Olmo posted by Tim on 1/2/2002 at 5:56:02 AM
Wow - that's the best response rate I ever got from a posting. Thanks! The frame has a very beautiful ping on all tubes, and the fork. There is some sloppiness to construction, no chrome, and so-so lugs. Still, I can tell it will be beautiful to ride, whenever I get around to re-building it.

The drop-outs are still dirty, and I can't read the lettering. Starts with a 'G'.

What bars should it have? Also, how can a garage mechanic do a proper, but affordable, job of repairing paint damage?

   RE:RE:RE:good deal on Olmo posted by Tim on 1/2/2002 at 5:56:19 AM
Wow - that's the best response rate I ever got from a posting. Thanks! The frame has a very beautiful ping on all tubes, and the fork. There is some sloppiness to construction, no chrome, and so-so lugs. Still, I can tell it will be beautiful to ride, whenever I get around to re-building it.

The drop-outs are still dirty, and I can't read the lettering. Starts with a 'G'.

What bars should it have? Also, how can a garage mechanic do a proper, but affordable, job of repairing paint damage?

   RE:RE:RE:good deal on Olmo posted by Tim on 1/2/2002 at 6:04:34 AM
Sorry for double-posting. The derailleur is definitely Nuovo Record. First bike of my novice collection with vintage campy bits. I'm most happy about that.

   RE:RE:RE:good deal on Olmo posted by Tim on 1/2/2002 at 6:06:12 AM
Sorry for double-posting. The derailleur is definitely Nuovo Record. First bike of my novice collection with vintage campy bits. I'm most happy about that.

   Campag. and Miche posted by John E on 1/2/2002 at 4:24:53 PM
Thank you, Steven, for your enlightening post. I believe what you say regarding the softness of Ofmega aluminum. Although I still have the original Ofmega cranks on my 1982 Bianchi, the first owner wore out two inside chainrings. Having snapped two cranks in years past, I plan to swap in a near-NOS Campy Chorus crankset, before one of my Ofmega cranks breaks from fatigue.


"The drop-outs are still dirty, and I can't read the lettering. Starts with a 'G.'"
--- Did Galli ever make dropouts?


I wonder whether Valentino is the Campagnolo family's equivalent of Edsel Ford ...

   G on dropouts posted by Steven on 1/2/2002 at 11:50:33 PM
The G on the dropouts could be for Gipiemme.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Hermes posted by: Walter on 1/1/2002 at 10:54:15 PM
eBay Item # 1056583289. Not sure if it's a lightweight but it's interesting. What caught my eye was what looks to be a 1 piece "ashtabula" style crank. I would expect a cottered 3 piece but make no claims to expertise. I wonder what the frame is made from? For a bike named for a god also known as Mercury it doesn't look super fast, even for its time period.

Have to love the chainguard. No doubt about the brand of this bike. To me that seems a high "Buy it Now" price. I'll watch with some interest.







MISC:   wheel identification posted by: mark on 1/1/2002 at 8:23:29 PM
I would like some help with figuring out what make, model and year some wheels I have go to. 1st...on the brake arm is stamped ELGIN Pat 1.911.461 Pat101.999 531.10 2nd...on the brake arm is stamped The Musselman Hub.brake oo. cleveland,ohio u.s.a. pats.-1.911.461-2.167.551 inside the front hub New Departure WL Made in U.S.A. the tires gillette road racer 28x1 1/8 3rd...exceltoo-B.H france extra-leger inside both hubs. thanks, mark







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   1970 Schwinn Paramount on eBay posted by: John E on 1/1/2002 at 3:23:00 AM
Currently, there is a nice-looking Paramount on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1056424950

Note the non-diagonal 531 sticker, which mentions "double butted frame tubes," but nothing about forks or stays. Does this imply a mixed tubeset with 531 on the main triangle only, or am I misinterpreting something here? (I have never lost any sleep over the fact that two of my four bikes have mixed-tubeset frames.)


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   1970 Schwinn Paramount on eBay posted by DBean on 1/1/2002 at 2:18:39 PM
That's all the sticker seems to say. Paramounts always seem to have an unusual style decal, though. My [stolen] 75 had a "non-diagonal" decal near the bottom bracket which mentioned tubes, fork, and stays. Does the seller say this one has a decal on the fork? (Mine didn't)

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   1970 Schwinn Paramount on eBay posted by Walter on 1/1/2002 at 11:01:45 PM
I concur with the sticker interpretation. I've always associated Paramounts with the full 531 tubeset but, who knows?






MISC:   Schwinn "World Tourist" posted by: Jimmy McG. on 12/31/2001 at 2:58:33 PM
A friend has given me a Schwinn World Tourist, and since I don't much about this bike I thought I'd ask around. Looks to me as though it was manf. in the 80's and the quality seems poor. It's a 5 speed,with fenders and when put back in working order may make a somewhat decent in town bike. Any ideas,comments, etc are always welcome. "THANKS"
Jimmy McG.


   RE:MISC:   Schwinn posted by Gralyn on 1/1/2002 at 2:50:55 PM
I don't know that much about the bike stuff...what's good, what's not...what's valuable, and what's junk. But if you like the bike - and if you think you would enjoy riding it...then fix it up and ride it. If you don't think you would like to ride it...and it turns out not to hold much value...then do whatever you want with it.






MISC:   re GAlli parts from the 80's posted by: wayne davidson on 12/30/2001 at 7:31:29 AM
Hi all, what do you know about 80's Galli bike parts? I have 2 different taper roller bearing bottom brackets, the first has steel cups and the bearings are pressed onto the spindle against a shoulder, the other has alloy cups and the bearings are up against circlips on the inside, both have steel lockrings, the first one is English threaded and the second is Italian threaded, not that I think that really matters, I don't have both here so I cannot compare the spindles, but the italian one does look slightly like it maybe a TI spindle, I suppose I can compare it to my OMAS one it is a TI spindle, any help I would be thankfull for. Not done any cycling, laid up in bed with a beaut cold....regards wayne......


   Galli parts from the 80's posted by John E on 12/31/2001 at 5:07:59 PM
I can't advise you on the BB parts, Wayne, but I do have original (I think) Galli brake calipers on my 1980 Peugeot PKN-10, and they are just as nice as the slightly later Modolos and slightly earlier Campys I have used on my Bianchi.






AGE / VALUE:   siebert posted by: joan a komlos on 12/30/2001 at 2:31:54 AM
ido apparisal i have some one that has a seibert bicycle and they would like to know about what they are worth a IF THEY HAVE ANY VALUE. I WOULD LIKE SOME ONE TO HEPL ME ARE TELL ME WERE TO LOOK FOR THE ANSWER JOAN







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   italvega bike (vintage 1970) posted by: lee on 12/29/2001 at 8:11:54 PM
I have an original Italvega bike from the 1970s. Would like to know if this is a bike of any interest. It has super champion rims and other good quality parts. What is the value...thanks


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   italvega bike (vintage 1970) posted by Walter on 12/30/2001 at 3:53:13 PM
Italvega was, despite its name ("Italian Star?"), an Asian, I'm pretty sure Japanese bike. By most accounts the Japanese were still trying to get framesets marketed to the US right at that time.

Super Champions are decent rims. What's the other "good quality" parts? Early highline Shimano or SunTour have some limitted collectability. If the bike fits and rides well keep it. Otherwise the components are probably worth more than the bike as a whole.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   italvega bike (vintage 1970) posted by desmo on 12/31/2001 at 3:48:50 PM
All the Italvega bikes I can recall seeing were in fact of Italian manufacture. Perhaps some Asian bikes were shipped with the Italvega name before it was changed to Univega. Unless the "good quality parts" are Campy Nuovo/Super Record, it isn't worth a whole lot. Italvega made some nice frames, but collectable they are not.

   Italvega (vintage 1970) posted by John E on 12/31/2001 at 5:16:42 PM
Italian-made Italvega led to Japanese-made Univega. I read the story somewhere ("The Dancing Chain"? sheldonbrown.com? classicrendezvous.com?). In late 1970, I saw a new $125 (Raleigh Super Course-priced) Italvega with Campy Valentino gear, at C. Harding's For Bikes in Los Angeles. I agree with everyone else -- nice transportation or commuting bike (irrespective of whether your specimen is Italian or Japanese), but not a collectible.

   RE:Italvega (vintage 1970) posted by Walter on 12/31/2001 at 6:49:21 PM
I could have sworn reading/hearing/remembering that the "ItalVega" name was an early Japanese attempt to "buy into" European marketability during the early 70s. I could well be wrong.

I know about Univega and in fact own one. However, it's a "modern" bike that has a (cheap) decal that claims it was made in the USA. I understand the line has recently been discontinued.

   Italvega (vintage 1970) posted by John E on 12/31/2001 at 9:35:07 PM
I just searched for Univega on sheldonbrown.com, and verified that the Univega brand name was most recently owned by Derby, which also owns Raleigh, and which has now retired the Univega name, probably because the two ended up being too similar. Since many Raleigh frames are made in the U.S., this would explain the "made in U.S.A." label on your Univega. I am sure about the initial production run of Italvegas coming from Italy, complete with red-white-green "Made in Italy" stickers on the seat tubes.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   italvega bike (vintage 1970) posted by Walter on 1/1/2002 at 1:15:19 AM
Thanks for the info John. In my previous post I was swearing I could remember in 1 sentence and admitting I could be wrong in the next. I guess I was wrong. Sorry Lee, your bike is at least European made.

It's a shame Derby discontinued the Univega name b/c there were differences between it and their "Raleigh" line. The last Univegas were Columbus steel and Campy equipped making them, at least to those of us who've been around awhile, a neat bike. Mine is a bit heavy even by 1980s standards but is a nice rider. Not nearly as tempermental as my true 80s vintage Basso. It goes where you point it even when riding handless.

   A follow-up posted by Walter on 1/2/2002 at 1:07:11 AM
I just checked out the Raleigh site and for 2002 they have a line of roadies called "Heritage" they use the old names such as "International." These are essentially the Univegas from the 2000 line-up. I own one and recommend it. Yes, they're ergo shifted but they're Columbus steel and Campy and at least when they were Univegas they were a bargain.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super le Tour posted by: Mike Stone on 12/29/2001 at 1:43:19 PM
I saw a Schwinn le Tour for sale for $18.00 - made in Japan with lugged frame. It's in good shape and seems to have good components.

Is it worth picking up?

I'm sure it's worth $18.00, but I have to be somewhat choosey do to space.

WHat do you think? Is the Schwinn Super le Tour worth having?

Mike


   RE:Schwinn Super le Tour posted by Mike Stone on 12/30/2001 at 2:56:02 AM
John, I hear you on that. Yes, garage space does come at a premium. Of course, so many of the 1970's machines are still so excellent for practical use, it is hard not to rescue them.

What makes the Super le Tour a good commuter? Anything in particular?

I just was the benefactor of a 1976 Schwinn Continental. Is the Super le Tour any better than the Continental?

Mike

   Super le Tour vs. Conti posted by John E on 12/30/2001 at 3:24:57 AM
Based on weight alone, I would prefer the Super le Tour over a Varsinental. However, the latter is arguably the more durable of the two, and definitely simpler to maintain. Both are good commuters because they can accommodate full mudguards, carrier racks, and 28-35mm tyres.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super le Tour posted by Walter on 12/30/2001 at 3:58:34 PM
The LeTour is in nearly all categories a superior ride to the Continental. The one possible exception, as John points out, is that the Conti is bombproof. However, the LeTour is hardly a high maintenance item and will ride much better.

This is all assuming proper fit and working components, of course.

I don't imagine the LeTour is one of the chrome ones, is it? If so buy it, it's one of the rare Japanese Schwinns with some real collectability.

   Schwinn Super le Tour posted by John E on 12/29/2001 at 4:40:52 PM
Yes, the price is right. However, if storage space is as big a problem as it is for me, I recommend buying this one only if the frame fits you or one of your friends or kinfolk very well. The Super Le Tour is a splendid commuter and daily driver, but it is only very marginally collectible, at best.

   RE:Schwinn Super le Tour posted by Gralyn on 1/1/2002 at 3:02:01 PM
I had Continental...I swear it weighed a ton! I sold it - mainly because the frame was too big for me. I think most bikes of that caliper are worth saving for $18. I rescued a World Sport...Chro-Mo frame, alloy wheels - I planned to clean it up over Christmas Vacation - I only started on it last night, though. I think it's going to be a good riding bike. I too, am running out of space. But still, when I see one I think is worth saving...and the price is right...it's hard to resist.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Here's a pretty one posted by: Walter on 12/29/2001 at 1:39:08 PM
eBay #1051736287. 1936 Baines. The auction was ended but the picture is still loading OK. Don't know how long it'll stay up. Am I correct that 1936 is a quite early year for a derailleur bike?

He started the auction at 200$ but it was a reserve. Wonder if he'll relist?

Also, unrelatedly, check out GrahamWatson.com for a very cool picture from the 1988 Giro. I've already set it as my computer "wallpaper." The picture changes weekly and I'm not sure on what day they post new ones. It's there today anyways.


   derailleur is c. 1980 posted by John E on 12/29/2001 at 4:57:14 PM
Thanks for posting, Walter. It is a unique bike with a beautiful paint job. I can't be sure from the fuzzy photos, but the derailleur looks like a c. 1980 Huret Svelto, which I suspect was switched in when the bike was "restored" in 1982. Original 1936 derailleurs were pretty primitive, and the Brits tended to prefer Sturmey Archer internal gearing. I would think a 4-speed close-ratio SA hub would be a more appropriate transmission for this frame.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Here's a pretty one posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 12/29/2001 at 7:15:35 PM
He will and it'll go higher than you think. Mark my word.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Here's a pretty one posted by Ian on 12/29/2001 at 8:13:13 PM
My 1936 Maclean which was made by another top London builder came with a Sturmey AM 3 speed medium-close ratio but they listed a three speed Cyclo derailleur as an option. Apparently none were sold that year! Obviously the British did not favour derailleurs. If you want the definitive history of derailleurs going back to the beginning of the century try and find a copy of the book "The Dancing Chain" which is great reading. This may not be easy, I had to get a copy from a library 400 miles away and am still trying to buy a copy. Cheers, Ian.






AGE / VALUE:   1988 Schwinn Ontare posted by: Dan on 12/29/2001 at 5:31:20 AM
This first time effort by Schwinn to produce an aluminum model from it's Paramount division was a work of beauty. I was told by my dealer when I ordered my Ontare that mine was the third order recieved for this new model which was eventually 6 month's delayed and didn't arrive until June of 1988. I competed on this bike for 10 yrs. and hated to retire it, but it was beginning to show it's age, with it's downtube shifters and all. The once gorgeous tri-color fade was now battle scarred and rock chipped, I don't care about a certain "patina" mine's getting a full restoration. I would like to know how many Schwinn Ontare's were produced in 1988 at the Greeville, Mississippi facility. I was told there were less than 100 built as the Ontare model. For 1989 they were renamed and given number's like 954, 754, 554(I think). Just how rare is this first year aluminum built Schwinn that's soon to be a vintage bicycle?


   1988 Schwinn Ontare posted by John E on 12/29/2001 at 4:50:08 PM
My 1988 Schwinn KOM-10 mountain bike came from Greenville, as well, with a total production of c. 1000 units per year. I don't think Greenville ever had a really big production run for any of its hand-made frames. I can't verify that there were fewer than 100 Ontares built, but I would bet on fewer than 1000.

We differ in our restoration / preservation philosophies -- my KOM-10 is keeping its original, admittedly scarred, Team Red-White-Blue paint job as long as I own it.

   RE:1988 Schwinn Ontare posted by Dan on 12/30/2001 at 5:25:09 AM
The reason behind my wanting to repaint was that I never intend to sell this bike and would like to have it looking nearly if not as good as it did when bought. I would like to buy another Ontare in near mint condition if anybody has one for sale. The less than 100 number was mentioned by a Schwinn Dist. salesman to our local Schwinn shop owner who in turn told me. What would be the best way to find number's of a production run. I'm worried that if I tried to find out from the new owner's of Schwinn that they would be even more surprised that they had a Greenville plant.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Speedwell Mudguards posted by: Rick on 12/28/2001 at 9:23:38 PM
I need some information on the Speedwell Gearcase Company,
LTD. England, makers of Speedwell Mudguards. I have quite
a few fenders wrapped in their paper and I was just
wondering if anybody knew if they are still in existence. Some fenders
look like the classic ribbed and creased English fenders, and
some are the plain jane in gloss white. The fenders actually have
a Made In England stamped right into the metal and some of the
newspaper that was used to protect them is dated in the '60s.
Did they make fenders for the big English manufacturers? What
make could I sell them as? Just was wondering!


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Speedwell Mudguards posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 12/29/2001 at 6:58:57 PM
Rick, You poor fellow, I feel your pain.I have a ton of these myself. I had to buy them all so I could get my paws on a some origonal Raleigh mudguards and some complete chaincases.( now sold out and in use) I don't know either. However these went on some Canadian bikes. Eatons was similar. I have "Thomas Wassdell L.T.D." mudguards from Farm Street, Birmingham, England. These perhaps were aftermarket,replacement mudguards for Raleigh and similar brand bikes. As large as the British bicycle market was, there must have been a need for these. You are not the only one to have found a stash of new mudguards. Don't toss them, they will eventually sell.
Some of these will sell on e- bay, some better than others! Speedwell was a respected brand, you have done better than I did perhaps. continue to learn about these mudguards.






FOR SALE:   lots of bikes posted by: freddie on 12/27/2001 at 11:40:54 PM
I posted a note a few days ago about a large number of lightweight and other bikes that I am willing to sell but had some trouble replying and deleated the responces I got. If you e-mailed me in the last few days please try again. I live I batesville IN.Sorry for the trouble.







MISC:   Takara posted by: Robert on 12/27/2001 at 11:09:05 PM
I was wondering if anyone else would ownup to having a Takara. I bought mine in 1979. Yeah, I know it is a lower end bike. Lugged steel frame, SunTour derailleurs, funky end plug shifters and Sunshine hubs. And a paint job that caused a friend to comment that it reminded him of a fishing lure he once had. It has been evolved over the years into a serviceable commuter bike and holds a place in my heart with Schwinn Speedster as two of my favorite bikes.


   RE:MISC:   Takara posted by Wings on 12/28/2001 at 7:59:58 AM
I have a Takara Cruiser. It has little holes at the bottom of the head tube where a BMX gusset would be -- like a Mikaha. It is an awsome cruiser and I use it a lot in bad weather in the winter. I do not think I have ever seen another Takara. The head badge has "Takara" with a sin wave through the name in two colors. Good ride!

   barcons posted by John E on 12/28/2001 at 7:54:19 PM
Your Takara frame is probably nothing special, but those ratcheted SunTour barcon shifters are the best of their class. The bike indeed sounds like a great commuter.

   RE:barcons posted by Wings on 12/29/2001 at 8:30:55 AM
My Takara cruiser was a 5 speed but it is now a 15 speed. I use Suntour barcons on it (cruiser handle bars). For awhile I was buying every old beater I could find if it had barcons -- just to get the barcons. I have one barcon on my recumbent also. I think they are fantastic!

   RE:MISC:   Takara posted by Mike Stone on 12/29/2001 at 1:54:02 PM
My mom rides a '70's Takara 10-speed and she loves it. She rides it all the time for errands, the the gym, and to the library.

I did some maintance work on it and it seems to be well made and have good components. If you are asking if it is worthy of riding, the answer is "Yes".

   RE:MISC:   Takara posted by Jeff on 1/4/2002 at 1:23:48 PM
My two brothers had Takara's in 1982, I did not, I bought a Zebrakenko instead. Good bikes in there era.

   RE:RE:barcons posted by Robert on 1/9/2002 at 4:00:34 AM
When I switched from drop handlebars to "commuter" bars I kept the barcons. The only problem I have had with them is remembering the set screw has a reverse thread.






WANTED:   "Old Style" cleats posted by: Walter on 12/27/2001 at 10:37:16 PM
I need some old style cleats. They'll go on my Nike Gabuche Due (sp?) shoes. I have found riding my fixed gear in sneakers to be less than great but I don't trust myself to "clip in" to that bike either. A return to toe clips and eventually straps is in order here but I don't have the cleats. I'm usually a pack-rat and was sure I saved the cleats when I screwed on the Look cleats a year and a half ago or so but I can't find them.

If none of you guys have any, any ideas where to look? I'm keeping an eye on eBay.


   RE:WANTED:    posted by Steven on 12/28/2001 at 1:35:08 PM
Try Bicycle Specialities in Toronto. Their telephone number is (416) 366 0409

   RE:RE:WANTED:    posted by Warren on 12/29/2001 at 2:03:26 AM
Bicycle Specialties closed their retail store down last Saturday...sniff...however they will continue to sell "some" merchandise usually associated with vintage touring and restoration. I don't think cleats are still in their stockpile but you could try them. I suspect that you may have a hard time getting them until sometime in late Jan. The number I've got for them is 416-423-0456