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Archived: Vintage Lightweights







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Sports Tourer posted by: Dave on 2/24/2003 at 2:53:22 AM
I am fortunate to have found this web site - I have a 1975 Schwinn Sports Tourer which I have babied over the years. Does anyone have an idea as to whether this bicycle is sought after by collectors and, if so, a ballpark estimate as to its value. I can provide more specific details if necessary. As you can see, I am a babe in the woods when compared to the expert information and responses I have read on this web site. Any information would be greatly appreciated!


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Sports Tourer posted by JONathan on 2/24/2003 at 8:48:18 AM
I recently acquired a 1972 Super Sport for $20 US, which was a dirt cheap price at a thrift store. It is nearly new (hardly used) and I would say it would cost $500 to make this bike today! It has hand fillet-brazed tubes with 4130 steel. Yours retailed for over $200 in 1975...http://www.geocities.com/sldatabook/detail7579.html#1975sporttourer...check it out. That (yours) is a better bike than the Super Sport. A Varsity was 75$, so you have an idea of how much finer your Tourer is in comparison. I think the bike rides great and the workmanship is exceptional. The bike IMHO represents a production method that requires skill and artistry to be successful. Having brazed a bit, myself I can really tip my hat to those guys. It is definitely a "keeper". I'd guess it's collectable right now, but then I have little knowledge of collecting or collectors. The Swinn lightweights are becoming rare commodities at the 3 thrift stores that I frequent on commutes home. Most lately, I can see from the parking lot that there are very few lightweights at all. Yours is one that I would try to buy, but probably not for anywhere near what it's worth.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Sports Tourer posted by JONathan on 2/24/2003 at 9:03:08 AM
Varsity was 129.95 $ US in 1975, not $75. The Sport Tourer was 209.95$ list price, according to the info from that databook site.
My Suburban 10 sp. sold for $164.00 in 1974, not $134.95. So some shops may have boosted the price for added accessories like lights and rack, bettter tires, etc.

   RE:  Schwinn Sports Tourer posted by Eric Amlie on 2/24/2003 at 2:23:57 PM
I know at least one person who is into collecting the Schwinn fillet brazed chrome-moly bikes. The Sports Tourer is the most desirable one because it has the smaller bottom bracket shell to take a 3 piece cotterless crank instead of the one piece Ashtabula cranks that the other models used. I watch this guy bid on them on ebay and it seems they generally sell for $150.00 to $250.00 depending on condition, frame size, and who's hot for one at the moment.

   RE:RE:  Schwinn Sports Tourer posted by Kevin K on 2/25/2003 at 2:02:54 AM
Hi Dave. You would be wise to hang onto that Sports Tourer. The brazing done on that bike frame was done by hand, not a machine. The brazing was also finished off by hand. I've owned or seen several of these fillet brazed frames and each is a bit different because of the human element involved. Alot of bikes can say " Schwinn " on them but few are hand brazed. Just my 2 cents. Kevin K

   RE:RE:RE:  Schwinn Sports Tourer posted by Fred A on 2/25/2003 at 4:53:17 AM
I agree..........keep it. I have two Sports Tourer's. One in orange with the bar end shifters (an option back then) and one in green. Both frames are the hard to find 26'' which fit my 6' frame perfectly. Where can you find a hand brazed frame these days? Besides, these were built alongside the Paramounts, but the final finishing wasn't as good as the Paramounts received.

Fred A

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Sports Tourer posted by Dave on 2/26/2003 at 3:09:10 AM
Thanks for all of your input - I don't have any intentions of selling the Sports Tourer (unless someone knocks my socks off, which I doubt). After all, how many bicycles built in recent memory were given as much special attention by the manufacturer in this day and age?

DAVE






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Ross Paragon/Signature series posted by: Rich Mc. on 2/23/2003 at 7:29:45 PM
I'm in the process of restoring a 1982 Ross Paragon road bike. The Paragons and Signature (built by Tom Kellog)series seem as rare as hens teeth. I'd very much enjoy talking with other owners of either of the above bikes.







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Raphael Geminiani... posted by: D. C. Wilson on 2/23/2003 at 9:10:11 AM
Found a circa 1960s Raphael Geminiani French lightweight. Frame straight, but badly rusted paint and chrome. All decals intact under patina of rust. No model name. Nervex lugs. Geminiani S/N D06640. Insights into this marque would be appreciated. Did another factory make the bikes or Geminiani, or did his own shop make them? Is Geminiani on par with Herse and Singer, or just another French custom? Did Geminiani make many models or just one?

Am thinking of losing my mind and restoring the thing. Why? Because I do not think I will live long enough to find a Herse or Singer and because I rather like the portrait of Raphael on the seat tube.

Note: Bottom bracket, chain rings, cranks, headset, handlebars, stem, brakes/levers, and shifters look original. Derailleurs and rims/hubs cheap replacements. What kind of derailleurs and wheels/hubs would a Gemeniani have come with?

Thanks in advance.



   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Raphael Geminiani... posted by Warren on 2/23/2003 at 1:55:35 PM
and I quote from Sheldon's glossary...

"A major bike of the French glory years. Many were rather unexciting, but be on the lookout for high-end examples from the early 60's with French component exotica. In prime (less than 57) sizes in nice condition top-end models with the right stuff could be worth $ 1,500 or more. The pedestrian models perhaps a few hundred at best. French bikes from the 50's and 60's are tricky stuff to understand and price.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   a find???? posted by: dean J on 2/23/2003 at 5:18:37 AM
Salute Gents another cheapy on aussie ebay, can someone have a look at it to see what it is , the owner doesnt know, the link is http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2712749359&category= , it has
"lucky five best cycles on the headstem" and a raleigh mark on one of the guards.., also has those coolrod brakes and enclosed chain guard, I think it would be cool to cruise the outback roads on one of these ;)
Dean


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   a find???? posted by Wings on 2/23/2003 at 8:02:00 AM
I think it may be a Raleigh marketed under another name. The Raleigh insignia is very bold.
Rod Brakes!
Enclosed Chain -- Chainguard!
I would also post this under ENGLISH ROADSTERS because that is what you have!!!
It looks cool!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   a find???? posted by Ian on 2/23/2003 at 8:54:58 AM
I believe it is a Taiwanese or Chinese copy of a Raleigh roadster. These have been around for many years and I have several badges and decals off them which from a distance look just like a Raleigh badge until you look closely and see that the spelling is wrong! They have several different names starting with "R" just so they can use the symbol. Still a fun bike to ride but not worth much to a collector.






AGE / VALUE:   Le Jeune posted by: Freddie on 2/22/2003 at 4:49:56 PM
I hope some of you can tell me a little about a bike I picked up yesterday that I can find very little info on. It is very light with nice lugwork. Le Jeune on the frame. A small decal on top tube, Normandy. The handle bars are alloy with a triangle, The letters ITM special inside as does the stem.3 Piece cranks, stronglight and a set of drilled and very well machined crank set ,also stronglight The F derailer is sach huret Hi stepper and rear is also sach with Duopar ECO .The drilled alloy brake handles are hooded with SLKI stamped on them.Center pull. Half crome forks. Pedles are Lyotard 82. The wheelsets are MAVIC with sewups and suntour hubs, Quick release. The freewheel is sach.6 speed, with very close gearing. small difference in the size of each gear. It is a nicely made bike. and almost mint. What do I have?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Le Jeune posted by Rich Mc. on 2/25/2003 at 1:30:19 AM
Go to Vintage Road Bikes and type in Frank Berto. I don't have Mr. Bertos site on hand but he has a concise report on what happened to all those early 70s -early 80s makes and the LeJune was among them. LeJunes were a main staple in higher end bike shops back then.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Le Jeune posted by RichMc. on 2/25/2003 at 12:35:48 PM
Classic Rendezvous is the site you want to hit. Click on the bikes by nationality section then click on France. LeJune is there

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Le Jeune posted by Freddie on 2/25/2003 at 10:42:47 PM
Thank you for the tips.I followed all the links I could find. Classic R Sheldon Brown, Harris C. ect. Not a lot of info but what I find is good. I still have not had a chance to ride it yet. 8 inches of snow the same day I got it home.Now the roads are a bone jarring maze of frozen ruts and slush . A challange on a full sup. MTB.Any one else ever heard of this bike, ridden one or know anything about them Let me know what you think.






AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by: JONathan on 2/21/2003 at 11:46:50 PM
Thinking about trying to convert a Raleigh record (l96?) with cottered cranks into a 3speed (6 speed) bike. Is this a feasible venture for a fairly competent tinkerer to attempt. Rather than possibly waisting a lot of time to find that it's not a good idea, I'd appreciate any knowledgable opinions on such a plan. The reason for even wanting to do this is not the question, I know it's dumb, but can it be done?
Thanks.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by Oscar on 2/22/2003 at 4:13:56 AM
It can be done. You'll need to keep enough chain to make the transition between the large and small chainrings. You'll also need to keep the rear derailleur on, and lock it into the correct chainline with the adjusting screws.

I haven't tried it, but I think you will get the best use with the hub using the small chainring, and you'll get really high gears in the large ring.

Go for it and let us know how it rides.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by Wings on 2/22/2003 at 6:51:05 AM
I have done it with a 3 chainring crank and a SA 3speed rear hub and it is great. Just freeze that rear derailer in the proper position as it acts as a chain tensioner.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by sam on 2/22/2003 at 2:47:21 PM
That's not dumb.And sometimes less is more.And this can be done several ways too.As stated with a double chainring in front,or with the sturney/archer cyclo two sprockets in rear,or by installing a three gear cluster inplace of the 5 and adding the two in front.Why have more than you need?The only real draw back to this is the modern gear clusters are lighter so to reduce the number of grars you would have to use older style heaver parts.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by JONathan on 2/22/2003 at 9:16:08 PM
Found what appears like the longest caliper brakes in existence. They are Weinmann. That takes care of the drop in diameter from 27" to 26" wheels, I think. Haven't actually bolted the brakes in place, only made a vis. inspection of the prospect. Although 2 chainrings sound inviting, I think a single is going to do it for a better alignment; the smaller ring is closer to the centerline. Having snapped a few chains at the least convenient times, the reassurance of tighter angles in the drive system sustain my courage to tackle the steep grades.
Is there an optimum chain selection? I've never spun the guts out of a 3sp. hub, but then I;ve never run a 36 tooth chainwheel either. What is the lowest gear chainwheel to use on a 14 tooth sprocket? Thanks for all the good ideas.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by Oscar on 2/23/2003 at 4:07:14 AM
I run my AW with a 36t chainring and an 18t sproket. This give me a low climbing gear, and a decent sprint gear. The middle gear is a little light to my preference, but it helps me obtain a fast cadence.

With a 14 tooth gear, you may want a really small chainring.

      Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by JONathan on 2/23/2003 at 4:37:22 AM
After some fooling around, I went to the 18; SA(AW) hub. I have a 17-tooth AW hub, too. I was considering grinding the teeth off the larger ring for esthetic reasons; and to eliminate a needless hazard to pant cuffs. I was also looking at a 165mm alloy crank set from a Centurion. This '60's Raleigh Record feels stronger than my Raleigh Record Ace (1977). Could be the 23 inch vs. 25 inch frame makes a difference in the flexing.
I know one thing for sure. This mutt is going to rock!

   RE:   Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by Edward inVancouver on 2/23/2003 at 5:22:19 AM
I'ven done this conversion to nabout three bikes now.n Take the circ-clip (snap ring) off the S.A hub and remove the cog. I have the best results using cogs from old Shimano Hyperglide cassetes, remove two cogs of your choice, and with a Dremel, remove three of the tabs(splines, I guess) so the cog will fit onto the S.A. driver. Put the cogs on the S.A. driver using the spacing rings and snap on the circ-clip. Again, I've had the best results using a Huret Allvit deraileur and a cheap 7 speed chain. The best shifter I've found to use is an old Sun-tour bar-con.

   RE:RE:   Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by JONathan on 2/23/2003 at 8:00:44 AM
Hmmmmmm. Never thought of that plan. I can do it. I have the parts. Thanks for the plans, Edward.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh record to 3 speed? posted by Rich Mc. on 2/23/2003 at 7:27:01 PM
For those interested, Frank Berto did an article on something similar for the 1980 Bicycling magazine. Jim Langley was then editor and I tracked him down (www.jimlangley.net)for a copy for my personal city bike. The article was called The Ultimate City Bike






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Flea Market Finds posted by: Ricky on 2/21/2003 at 7:55:53 PM
My first time here...please be gentle. Poking around an outdoor junk shop; Owner's gone so I can't learn about buying until he shows up...I just have to keep going back till I catch him there. Three old bikes to interest me, but I dont have any idea as there value/collectability.
I recently restored an old Vista and am now working on a Varsity for my wife, so you can see I'm not an elitist. I just like old bikes(g) Anyway, the bikes are these:
Raliegh Record, no # found. 27/1-1/4 Raleigh tyres ten spd stem shift (hurret)Allvit derailers side pull dual pivot brakes synchron? The bike appears to be the one shown on page seven of this catalog:
http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Retro-Raleighs/70-Catalog.pdf
It is the yellow/black color scheme. The bike and all of its bits are there, save for the cables (gone)and the Raleigh tyres (rotten)quite a few knicks in the paint, lotsa rust on the steel rims, but overall, very restorable.
Next bike: Magneet Model Sprint. Yes, thats what I intended to type...Magneet. This ten speed bike is made in Holland, probably '68,'69 or so. Apparently, the name is the Dutch word for "magnet" as there are emblems or logos on the bike depicting a horsehoe magnet.The frame is fully lugged and the build quality of the joints, etc appears significantly better than the Raleigh. I didn't jot down the names of all the components, but the wheels are steel as is the crankset the bike is beige or pale yellow color the tires which *appear* to be 27x1-1/4 are way too rotten to read. again, most of the bits are there.
next bike: Columbia Sports III. A three-speed cruiser that appears to me to be Pre-LBJ, but the serial number chart online says that its a '71!!Its a W486xxx. I just dont believe that this style of bike could be that new, but hey, that's why I'm here! Cuz I don't know! The bike is brown with white pinstripes including fenders and wheels. Weinmann caliper brakes the hub has one o' those leather belts dangling from it, keeping it shiny...now what were those for, again???? The bike appears very complete, although faded and somewhat rusty. 26x1-3/8 tires.
Any ideas on what to offer, if anything? If you hadda pick just one...which would be the one to pick for restoring? The one to pick for selling? The one to pick just fer grins?
Thanks for all comments, Ricky


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Flea Market Finds posted by sam on 2/21/2003 at 10:37:44 PM
Ricky,the raleigh is a good solid bike on par with the Varsity.If i had to pick one that would be it,but not to restore,I'd paint it,maybe upgrade the wheels and ride it.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Flea Market Finds posted by Bryant on 2/21/2003 at 10:57:44 PM
Ricky, I concur. The Raleigh will not disappoint. A good solid bike and there are plenty of Raleighphiles around to give you a hand.
I would also pick up the Magneet, just because I've never seen one. I would have to have it to tear apart and rebuild just to expand my bicycle maintenance repetoire. But that is me. I would leave the Columbia for someone else, although I did fall in love with a Columbia 5 speed that whispered sweet nothings at me.
Enjoy your finds, and visit here often. I am constantly learning new things here.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Flea Market Finds posted by JONathan on 2/21/2003 at 11:42:54 PM
Raleigh, Raleigh...Raleigh. Check the underside of both chainstays near the BB for signs of weakening due to the kickstand attachment (if there was/is one) and especially at the BB junction for tiny cracks. I'd check the steerer-tube as well for bends or cracks. I have a Raleigh Record Ace from the early '70's. I put a triple chainset and a Shimano "crane" rear der. and tried to tour, but it was kind of waffling a bit under the load. I'm at 220 and with the gear packed on, it was marginal. But for a pleasure craft you can't go wrong. Unlike the Raleigh Roadsters, the records seems fairly easy to refit. I put alloy wheels, too.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Flea Market Finds posted by Ricky on 2/22/2003 at 12:12:16 AM
Do my eyes deceive? Do we have a concensus? Wow! Is this website based in Nottingham? (j/k)Thanks for the replies! I feel at home already. It sounds as though each of you were reading my mind. As I thought about this quandary I had fairly well matched brainwaves on these three points: Raleigh...get it/ride it
Magneet...maybe, but only as a curio
Columbia...Who needs more ceiling art?

Coupla questions remain: How does one tell the difference between a Record and a Record Ace?
What in the name of Sam Hill was the little dangle-strap (with a little reflector on it) for on the three speed hubs?

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Flea Market Finds posted by Oscar on 2/22/2003 at 4:17:55 AM
It's there to keep the hub shiney, just as you guessed.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Flea Market Finds posted by sam on 2/22/2003 at 4:19:06 AM
Just like you said , that little dangle strap was a hub shinner.In the old days all hubs had oil holes. the shinner just keep the dirt wiped off---sammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Flea Market Finds posted by Richard on 2/22/2003 at 7:14:33 AM
Go for the Raleigh, dont pay more than $15 or $20 for it. Check the back of the seattube at the top below the lug for serial#. I stripped mine down to a single speed, its not to bad weight wise and a blast to ride.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Flea Market Finds posted by Freddie on 2/22/2003 at 5:16:19 PM
I agree on all points I love raleigh and try to stay away from columbias except last summer I bought a early 70s sports 3. It is mint with the nubbies on the tires and shop price tag on the handle bars. and yes it is hanging from the celing.






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Raleigh Technium - replacement part needed posted by: Gralyn on 2/21/2003 at 3:04:55 PM
I need a replacement part for my Raleigh Technium 440. It's the bracket that holds the deraillieur cables - from the down-tube up to the stem-mounted shifters. The bracket is held on by an allen bolt from the undeside of the down-tube. It's black plastic, curves around the underside of the down-tube (I think the curvature is what keeps it from pivoting from side-to-side). It has 2 holes for each of the cable housings to inter...then it steps down to 2 small holes for the actual steel cables to exit.
Where could I find such an animal?
Also, I'm sure some of these Techniums had down-tube shifters. Did any of them have a down-tube shifter that was held on by a single allen bolt? Most of your bolt-on down-tube shifters, and most of your bolt-on down-tube cable brackets are too small diameter for this down-tube. Also, if you used a bolt on system that wraps around the entire tube - it would cover the "Technium" script - which would not look very professional.

Fabricating the bracket would be easy - but I don't have any tools to do that. Finding a replacement part would be best.
Thanks


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Raleigh Technium - replacement part needed posted by Dave on 2/21/2003 at 5:47:20 PM
Try Part# 01-90663 @www.bikeparts.com in the Cable section it's only $1.59 looks just like the original ,(I have a Raleigh Super Course built just like the Technium).

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Raleigh Technium - replacement part needed posted by Gralyn on 2/21/2003 at 8:36:02 PM
Wow! Thanks.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Raleigh Technium - replacement part needed posted by Gralyn on 2/22/2003 at 4:05:17 AM
I looked it up.....that's not it...that's the one that goes on the bottom bracket. I need the stop for the down-tube - it mounts at the same location that down-tube shifters mount.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Raleigh Technium - replacement part needed posted by Dave on 2/24/2003 at 4:13:51 PM
Gralyn, How about Part#FS1115 in the Cable section of the Quality Bicycle Products Special Order Catalog section @www.harriscyclery.com?






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Wooden Rimmed CCM posted by: Les.Ferris on 2/21/2003 at 3:27:47 AM
I have what looks like a 26 or 28inch men's bike, with wooden rims in original condition.On the name-plate it has inscribed Cleveland.The rear taillight is carved glass. It is complete but needs restoration.I think it is from the 1910's or 1920's.I would like to know the year and approx. value.Thanks Les.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Wooden Rimmed CCM posted by sam on 2/21/2003 at 3:19:36 PM
Cleveland was a brand of bike built by the Pope bicycle company(columbia)CCM is the large Canadian bicycle company.CCM had some of their bikes built by Pope.Value on these bikes depends a lot on condition and equipment such as light or tank.(the tail light will add value)Is the paint original and what condition?Is the seat original & condition? Rusty , trashed out or keep inside?Old rusty columbias go for $50 compleat--Great originals might go as high as $1000.Check ebay for prices of similar bikes--sam






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   ENGLISH Estwick posted by: DeanJ on 2/20/2003 at 4:36:54 AM
Hi , I came across a bike on the auctions its description was as follows:

1930's bicycle, 26 inch wheels. Still in original black paintwork with 'Elswick' in gold lettering. Has Sturmey Archer 3-speed hub gears. In good condition. Two owners only, both in same family


Does anyone know if this is worth anything??? it has 10.00 dollars on it at the moment;)
Thanks
Dean


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   ENGLISH Estwick posted by Warren on 2/21/2003 at 3:29:05 AM
Did a search on it but couldn't find it. Where is it, may I ask?

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   ENGLISH Estwick posted by Dean J on 2/22/2003 at 12:19:24 PM
Hi , yea it was on an australian sold.com website but has since passed in with no bids, I wasnt sure whether to pick it up or not so I let it go at 10.00 dollars.
Regards
Dean






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   trophee de paris posted by: Richie Cruz on 2/19/2003 at 7:51:53 PM
Last night I salvaged an old french road bike that someone was going to throw out. Someone gave it a brushed on paint job, and the only name I can find on it is Trophee de Paris on the headbadge, which is red, white and blue.
The frame appears to be from the '70's, has nervex style lugs, a lugged stem, mafac racer brakes, triple cottered cranks, and a simplex long cage rear derailleur.
Can anyone tell me anything about this bike. I have never heard of this brand and any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Richie


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   trophee de paris posted by Gralyn on 2/20/2003 at 1:45:13 AM
It just blows my mind that people throw these things away!

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   trophee de paris posted by Chris on 2/20/2003 at 2:09:27 AM
Yes, blows my mind too. I'm happy to hear that you rescued it!






FOR SALE:   Big Update posted by: Menotomy Vintage Bicycles, Inc. at OldRoads.com on 2/19/2003 at 5:08:47 PM
We've added more bicycles and parts and set some "mid-winter" prices.
Click on "Bicycles for Sale" and "Parts for Sale" at the top of this page.

Vin - Menotomy Vintage Bicycles, Inc.
http://OldRoads.com







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   What's this thing on the brakes? posted by: Gralyn on 2/19/2003 at 3:12:58 AM
As I was working on my latest project - the Lotus Excelle - The dia-compe side pulls have this spring thing on them. It kinda looks like a leaf spring - with a tensioner screw on it. I have no idea what they are for. One on the front brake and one on the rear brake. I would think - you adjust the screw to adjust the tension on the brakes - but I really have no idea. I would think the double looped spring is what determines the tension on the brakes - but I don't know. Is anyone familiar with this device? I have never seen it before.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   What's this thing on the brakes? posted by Keith on 2/19/2003 at 3:57:02 PM
I've never seen what you describe, but I can tell you that contemporary Campy brakes (and I believe Shimano) have spring tension adjustment screws. But it's easy to spot their function since it ultimately connects with the spring. Is the leaf spring in any way conected to the main tension spring?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   What's this thing on the brakes? posted by Keith on 2/19/2003 at 4:08:22 PM
P.S. Here's a slew of information about the Lotus brand: http://www.mybikesite.com/messages/road/messages/1662.htm

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   What's this thing on the brakes? posted by Rob on 2/20/2003 at 1:36:12 AM
If it's what I think your talking about, a leaf spring on right side behind the caliper, I have that on Dia Compe calipers on a 1984/85 Nishiki and I have assumed it's simply for centering the caliper...you know they somtimes have a tendency to be closer to one side of a wheel than the other.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   What's this thing on the brakes? posted by Rob on 2/20/2003 at 1:38:07 AM
Sorry...I mean the tensioning screw is on the right side...the leaf spring is directly behind...






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   TA chainrings posted by: Brian L. on 2/18/2003 at 8:32:00 PM
Looking for a good source of NOS, or good-used TA Cyclo-Touriste chainrings: (2) @ 50-48T and (1) @ 36T. Recommendations or bike geeks out there looking to sell/trade? Thanks.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   TA chainrings posted by Warren on 2/19/2003 at 2:39:41 AM
NOS are available at...

http://www.bikespecialties.com/

They are one of the largest retailers of "Specialties TA"

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   TA chainrings posted by Dave on 2/19/2003 at 3:19:23 PM
Two other internet NOS sources are Velostuf.com & Harriscyclery.com for TA Cranks & Chainrings






AGE / VALUE:   Fuji frame posted by: steve on 2/18/2003 at 4:35:20 PM
Over the weekend, I picked up a Fuji frame for $15. Model appears to be "S12-S LTD", color is black with silver-gray accents. Fork crown is chromed; forks and stays are half-chromed. Dropouts are forged Sun Tour without adjuster screws. Material is described as "Fuji Double Butted Chrome Molybdenum Steel Tubing 331". Size is 21", with a 21.5" top tube, 17" chain stays, 126mm rear dropout spacing, and a wheelbase of about 40.5". I've assembled it with a Sturmey AM medium-range 3-speed hub; so far a couple of short rides up the street were promising. Anybody know when it was built (I'd guess the late '70's, from the combination of a 6-speed rear end with all the chrome), and how it was originally equipped? I'm very pleased with this one.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Fuji frame posted by Darryl on 2/19/2003 at 3:10:11 AM
FUJI catalog No. 13(1983) Lists the S12-SLTD as Follows: Frame: FUJI331 double butted chrome molybdenum w/7" of chromed chainstays, Fork: High Tension steel w/7" chrome, Handlebar: NITTO Olympiade B 115 alloy bar & alloy stem, Brakes: DIA COMPE 500G side pull w/QR & gum rubber hoods, Crank: SUGINO Mighty Tour 42x52T & 170mm alloy cranks, Derailleurs: SUN TOUR Front - NSL Rear - Road VX-S Shifter - Bar-Con, Rear CLuster: SUN TOUR Mighty-6 14-16-19-22-26-30T Gold, Chain: HKK (gold), Pedals: MKS Quill-2K alloy w/clips & straps, Rims: UKAI alloy 27x1 1/4", Hubs: SUNSHINE Low flange alloy w/QR, Tires: Silver Star 27x1 1/8",Saddle:FUJITA Pro, Seat Post: Sugino SP-H alloy, Color: Ebony, Weight: 25lbs. Is this your bike???

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Fuji frame posted by Darryl on 2/19/2003 at 3:11:46 AM
FUJI catalog No. 13(1983) Lists the S12-SLTD as Follows: Frame: FUJI331 double butted chrome molybdenum w/7" of chromed chainstays, Fork: High Tension steel w/7" chrome, Handlebar: NITTO Olympiade B 115 alloy bar & alloy stem, Brakes: DIA COMPE 500G side pull w/QR & gum rubber hoods, Crank: SUGINO Mighty Tour 42x52T & 170mm alloy cranks, Derailleurs: SUN TOUR Front - NSL Rear - Road VX-S Shifter - Bar-Con, Rear CLuster: SUN TOUR Mighty-6 14-16-19-22-26-30T Gold, Chain: HKK (gold), Pedals: MKS Quill-2K alloy w/clips & straps, Rims: UKAI alloy 27x1 1/4", Hubs: SUNSHINE Low flange alloy w/QR, Tires: Silver Star 27x1 1/8",Saddle:FUJITA Pro, Seat Post: Sugino SP-H alloy, Color: Ebony, Weight: 25lbs. Is this your bike???

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Fuji frame posted by steve on 2/19/2003 at 4:39:46 PM
Thanks; that description does seem to fit my frame. The right chainstay says "18 Speed", which suggests it might have had a triple crank originally. The conflict between the "S12" and "18 Speed" markings might suggest a limited production run of 18-speeds using frames already marked with "S12" decals.