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VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Ernie Clements - what era? posted by: Ian Vaughan on 3/27/2003 at 1:21:08 PM
I spotted a "Clements" for sale in a local paper and have been trying to gather some info before I go take a look. I know now that Ernie Clements was a designer of Falcon Cycles during the sixties and did some work framebuilding for Eddy Merckz. What era do the bikes that he did under his own name date from? Any clues would be greatly appreciated. Bike that I am going looking at is 531 tubing (naturally) & 12 speed.
TIA
Ian







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Suteki posted by: Fred on 3/27/2003 at 3:57:28 AM
Does anyone know anything about a Japanese made Suteki bike?
The only reference I have found is a for sale ad on the internet for a Sears Suteki. The bike is very good quality with all alloy components. The frame has two top tubes extending from the head tube to the rear dropouts.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Suteki posted by JONathan on 3/27/2003 at 4:48:12 AM
Fred, I believe you have what is called a "mixte" type frame. They are stronger than a lady's frame; mixtes can approach the strength of regular double-triangle (mens' frame) bikes, if the tubes are cleanly fitted. The bike you have may be a Bridgestone...wild guess. The Kabuki was a Bridgestone.
Sears mahaged to have some real good value machines in the early '70's. How does it ride? That's a good indicator for quality. If they bothered to go with alloy components, it's probably a decent ride. What are the cranks? (look on the crankarms for a maker).
SunTour derailer?

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Suteki posted by JONathan on 3/27/2003 at 5:17:55 AM
This bike was over $400, good quality......... http://www.timberwolf.us/images/Suteki.jpg
It's got Shimano 600 (good) derailers. If you like the ride of a mixte, it'll probably be a good value, whatever they want.
This one was going for $125...looks almost new. Good luck.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Suteki posted by Walter on 3/30/2003 at 12:58:45 PM
Bike does look very clean in the pic. The CatEye computer and Rhode Gear rack is nice but I'm not sure at all that $125 is a market competitive price.

28.5lbs was not a "lightweight" in the '70s or even '60s. Stem shifters and those "dual pull" or "emergency" levers weren't found on higher line bikes. I'm surprised that it was specced with Shimano 600.

OTOH it's alot better than anything Sears or X-Mart currently has and if you ride and enjoy it the money certainly won't be wasted.






AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh International headset posted by: Drew on 3/26/2003 at 5:01:49 PM
Does anyone know the correct size headset for a 1971 Raleigh International, i've tried several from high end bikes of the era and none are a good fit?







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Pegasus posted by: larry on 3/26/2003 at 3:13:10 AM
Anybody familiar with a Pegasus,probably German? This one has a mixte frame of sorts,and moustache bars. It has Sachs drum brakes front and rear,the rear is a two speed hub with a six cog cluster,single front chainwheel. Does not look to be exspensive ,not cheap either. The shifters are Sachs-Huret. I didn't know they had joined these companys. Shifters do not look old. My guess would be that this is probably about 15 years old.







VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by: Kim Privette on 3/25/2003 at 7:20:46 PM
I have two identical 1979 Schwinn Super LeTours in fabulous condition. 25" mens frame, black. What might their approximate value be?


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by Kevin K on 3/26/2003 at 1:24:31 AM
Hi Kim. Please tell more about the bikes. Colors, Suntour or Shimano derailleurs, brakes. Thanks, Kevin ( Letour Guy )

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by Tom Findley on 3/26/2003 at 1:38:05 PM
$25 each at thrift shops.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by Dave on 3/28/2003 at 2:30:46 PM
Jonathan,
The Varsity I commute with is not a standard issue one.It came with Suntour deraillers,fenders and a cromoly fork.I added 700c alloy wheels and it weighs around 28lbs.I used to commute on the regular ones,they never were lighter than 35lbs and that flat blade solid steel,(I once tried to drill a hole in one and the bit broke off),fork does have poor road feel to it.The cromo fork makes a huge difference.I end up selling my finds to people in the bike club.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by Dave on 3/28/2003 at 2:31:36 PM
Jonathan,
The Varsity I commute with is not a standard issue one.It came with Suntour deraillers,fenders and a cromoly fork.I added 700c alloy wheels and it weighs around 28lbs.I used to commute on the regular ones,they never were lighter than 35lbs and that flat blade solid steel,(I once tried to drill a hole in one and the bit broke off),fork does have poor road feel to it.The cromo fork makes a huge difference.I end up selling my finds to people in the bike club.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by JONathan on 3/27/2003 at 4:26:16 AM
Two! That's cool. I paid $40 for a Le Tour II (l975?) made by Panasonic. It's a real smooth riding bike. The Super Le Tour was $250 when a Varsity was $130, I think. You have original stuff? If yes, then the Sugino "super maxy" crankset is a sweet set. The Weinmann A-123 alloy wheels are nice, too. I like the downtube shifters on the Super Le Tour. I'd hang on to those...wait and see. The 1020 tubes are OK, Craftsmanship at Panasonic was v. good. If you bought them, I'd guess you went more than $25 each. Thrift stores are getting $50 for beat up 12 speeds. They are worth what somebody is willing to pay, I guess. Keep in mind that you can pay $89.99 for bikes that can't stay tuned for 20 miles. Do you want to sell or just wondering?

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by Warren on 3/27/2003 at 12:33:04 PM
Methinks Tom was giving an evaluation of what it they are worth...

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by Gralyn on 3/27/2003 at 12:48:29 PM
$25 each at Thrift shops - yes that's probably about right - but I have yet to spot one. Here lately, it's been mostly old Huffy Mtm, Sears Free Spirits.....and that's been about it.....and an occasional Schwinn World Sport. I did find a ladies Schwinn Traveler the other week. But I must admit - I have never seen anything other than Varsity, World, World Sport, Traveler at any thrift store. I know Schwinn made lots more models - but those are the only ones I have spotted......oh.....I almost forgot - I did once spot a Schwinn Superior....at the time - I didn't know what it was...and so, the next day - it was gone.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by JONathan on 3/27/2003 at 4:56:27 PM
You need more than a little luck in finding a Superior. There are lots of collectors out here. I used to pass on all kinds of cool bikes...mostly due to ignorance on my part. There was a Super Sport at St. Vincent that I snapped up for $25. It was pure luck. My Traveler (panasonic schwinn) 12 speed rides better (in my own personal experience) than my Super Sport, but why would that ever be a consideration in determining a bike's value? Depends on whether I'm thinking; "collect" or thinking; "ride", I guess. I have some that fit both categories. The Round badge Schwinns are for riding, IMHO.
Are there a lot of Varsities where you are? They've dried up around here. I'm always looking for varsities, too. JONathan

   RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by Gralyn on 3/27/2003 at 5:47:40 PM
Yes, I remember that Superior. At a glance - I was thinking it was along the lines of an old continental, or varsity - but it was very light. And I was thinking of buying it for the alloy rims. There was also a Peugeot Grand Sport parked beside it. I chose the Peugeot (kicking myself in the butt right now). That night, I learned some more information on the Superior. So, I went back the next day.....it was gone!

I pretty much try to buy the one's I can ride. I will pass on one too little, or too big - unless the price is so good - that I either pick it up for parts - or to possilby re-sell later (after a clean-up and tune-up, etc.)

I have one varsity. It's green. I passed on a yellow varsity a while back. I had one - I figured that's all I needed. But, for the past several months - I haven't seen any Varsities (mostly haven't seen anything)

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by Dave on 3/27/2003 at 6:48:02 PM
Here in Chicago,(home of the Varsity's) I usually find one per year that has been abandoned. They are almost always either the 19",(too small) of 24",(too big).They last one was a red '79 19" which needed a cleaning and new tires,wheels,chain & freewheel.It was left behind a bike shop, the owner probably found out the cost was more than he expected to fix.I could keep an eye out for you but the shipping cost will most likely be hi.I commute on a '64, a great commuter I might add.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super LeTour posted by JONathan on 3/28/2003 at 4:14:17 AM
Mighty nice offer, Dave. Let me get a little more desperate...the season is starting. Sat. is a rummage sale that has been fruitful of Varsities in past years. I usually get one to fix up for a friend. Commute? Man, you are tough. I just placed alloy wheels on my "Big Red" (26" frame). I have a "Green Monster" that needs a set of brakes. Got it for free. The guy just wanted the brakes...crummy ones at that, for some esoteric reason. I really dig the insensitivity the Varsity has toward all the road "noise". I think I could brave a commute with it, now that it only weighs 42 pounds, without fenders. I think they are the best bikes ever built. Those bohunk one-piece cranks are definitely cool.






FOR SALE:   Carlton on ebay posted by: David on 3/24/2003 at 10:07:12 PM
NMA. Too small for me, unfortunately. Looks like a nice Carlton Flyer. Seems complete except for wheels.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2166425635&category=420


     Carlton on ebay posted by John E on 3/25/2003 at 2:57:22 AM
Smashing! Thanks for posting.






WANTED:   WTB: 3-pin chainring posted by: Hallyx on 3/24/2003 at 7:38:35 AM
I need a 42t chainring to fit the Stronglight steel cottered 3-pin crank-web on my '74 Dawes Galaxy. It is 118mm bcd (100.5m between holes = 4 inches). 40t or 44t might do. But it is my only chainring (5-speed) and 42t is perfect.

Thanks for any help, here.

Hallyx


   RE:WANTED:   WTB: 3-pin chainring posted by steve on 3/24/2003 at 6:34:58 PM
About a year ago, I fitted a Campy "Sport" cotterless steel crank with a TA alloy 3-pin chainwheel special-ordered from Harris Cyclery. I had measured the crank and a sample chainring and thought they were the same at 116mm. However, I had to sand out the inside of the chainwheel to get it to fit on the mounting shelves, and then had to ream out the boltholes a little on the inner side to get them to fit - which leads me to suspect that the real 3-pin TA diameter might actually be 118mm. (Drilling 3 new holes at the proper spacing would have been the correct way to go, but I didn't have the tools.) Anybody out there with a 3-pin TA crank to measure?
My ham-handed fitting notwithstanding, the combination works and looks beautiful. If you go this route, be prepared for a wait and be flexible - I wanted a 42, said I'd take anything from a 40 to a 46, and ended up with a 44.

   BCD "resizing" posted by John E on 3/25/2003 at 3:02:46 AM
I know this will sound like sacrilege to some of you, but a Dremel tool can work wonders in enabling a given spider to accommodate a given chainring. (I happily run a modified 130mm 44T Shimano chainring on my 128mm Nervar Star spider, although on eBay I just bought a 48T Nervar ring, which will make a great half-step combination with the 45T Nervar ring I bought awhile back from one of our forum regulars.)

   RE:BCD posted by JONathan on 3/25/2003 at 4:46:56 AM
Yes, a $20 "Wizard" (3.2 volt cordless; check Black&Decker outlet store) is worth every penny. Get the "gold" battery, as it holds way juice than stock "silver" bats.. As for chainrings. I have a '60's Dawes Galaxy 10 speed; cottered cranks with 50/42 chainrings, but I have just now held up a 50/40 tooth Nervar chainring and by casual inspection it looks like a perfect fit on the Dawes' "spider". It's possible that it is a Stronglite crankset, because someone had placed a chainguard onto the larger ring. The "Nervar made in France" stamp is on the chainguard, not the crank arm or rings. I have some other rings in a Rubbermaid somewhere, I'll look when it's light (and warm) outside. Check later, JONathan

   RE:WANTED:   WTB: 3-pin chainring posted by JONathan on 3/25/2003 at 4:58:06 AM
BTW, since the topic is chainrings, is there anything good about a brand called "Solida"? I have a spare chainring for a cottered Solida crankset. It's 50/42 (44? can't recall). The Solida has a different spider than the Nervar and Strobglight. JONathan

   RE:RE:BCD posted by JONathan on 3/25/2003 at 5:01:22 AM
Oops! I just looked at my "Wizard". THe battery is 3.6 volt, not 3.2 volts; just for accurracy of information. JONathan.






AGE / VALUE:   What Campy derailleur do I have ? posted by: DannyJoe on 3/24/2003 at 12:59:36 AM
I recieved today a bag of bike part's which had a Campy rear derailleur inside, near the mounting bolt are the words patent-71 and near the pully cage pivot patent Campagnola. My guess is it's a 1971 model, the pully cage is drilled out. The center of the derailleur body is hollow(open) what model do I have, what value range does it have ? It appears to be in great condition.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What Campy derailleur do I have ? posted by Darryl on 3/24/2003 at 1:29:54 AM
Looks like a Nuovo Record, but they say "NUOVO RECORD" on front of derailleur. I don't think Campy drilled out their cages, so it was done after market. If in good condition and has original pulley wheels my guess is worth $25 - $50.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What Campy derailleur do I have ? posted by DannyJoe on 3/24/2003 at 3:05:50 AM
Now I believe the center has been cut out for lightness and it does have Campy pulley wheel's, most likely is a Nuovo Record lightened up at one time, interesting!

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What Campy derailleur do I have ? posted by DannyJoe on 3/24/2003 at 3:14:14 AM
Also in with the Campy derailleur was a French made rear derailleur with nice chrome body/pulley cage's, a place on the front body of the french made derailleur had a recessed area where a sticker may have been, could this have been a Simplex racing derailleur ?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What Campy derailleur do I have ? posted by Darryl on 3/24/2003 at 3:30:34 AM
See ebay items 2718458857, 2718454339 and 2717115589 or search "Simplex Derailleur" for more samples of rear derailleurs.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What Campy derailleur do I have ? posted by JONathan on 3/24/2003 at 3:32:35 AM
I'd guess a "Valentino", because I have one that has that patent stamping on it. They are/were pretty tough. I took mine off an old Bottecchia that I had put about 2K miles in the hills. It was a worn out bike when I got it. The seat stays gave way, so I stupidly junked the bike, keeping the running gear. If it's a really older Campy, that's gotta be cool. I'm not sure if the "71" has any direct indication of manufacture date, IMHO, of course. If it is then it may be newrer than that date. I have some old tools that have patent stampings with dates that are way earlier than the date the tool was actually made; much to my disappointment, of course. Whatever you do, don't junk it! I have learned that lesson only too well.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What Campy derailleur do I have ? posted by Darryl on 3/24/2003 at 4:24:59 PM
The Nuovo Record rear derailleur has a patent date that corresponds to the manufacturing date starting in 1970. "PAT.70" was manfactured in 1970 and so on. Source: Chuck Schmidt Campagnolo Timeline.

   Mamma Squirrel said: Don't you no never mind! Just gather them all! posted by Chris on 3/24/2003 at 10:31:51 PM
Duh, well I knows it's a Campagnolo hub I do, I do!
I don't know what Campy parts I have. I just collect all the Campy stuff I can lay hands on.
It's too big a topic for me. The stuff is not marked what particular grouppo or whatever it is. It does not say anything on the lousey hub except Brev Campagnolo. I'm sick of that!
It's stuck in boxes and wheels are hung up.
The Harden hubs and BH Airlite and the British stuff is what I am really happy to have. I'm in the shops groaning, "Oh it's got Campy stuff on it." They're looking me angrily. Campy is primo! Tullio was a god! Don't be badmouthing Campy in my shop!
I find a lot of stuff that looks like Campy but is another brand. I don't like that. It fakes me out!
Old tubular wheel rims and skewers too. All this Mavic crap! Red label, yellow label? Whatever! Too many types and styles and makers. I just grab them all. I'm looking at stuff and don't know what it is!That's the diffrence between something you are really into and something that doesn't excite you except that you know it's gotta be worth more than what you paid for it.
"Oh, sorry. He pulled out the drawers and bought it all." I leave lots of empty drawers. "Are you the (something, something) fellow who cleaned out the cabinets? Listen, I need this part!!" The shops can call me for parts, but I'm too stupid to know if I have it or not. Besides the fellow is so ticked off right now that it's better to tell them you're busy. Imagine spandex wearing cyclists going "clip clop" with the sound of the cycling shoes on the tile floor. They are good and aggrivated and it's best to stay away. He calls around town but: "Chris was here also."
Thank god, the shops have a private rolodex and with digging and networking and calling it can be ordered. Or did Chris get there also?
I didn't know I had to own the bike it came on! He grins, were sitting there over coffee and he tells me "Chris, he wanted to strangle you, but I'm proud of you, my boy!

   RE:Mamma Squirrel said: Don't you no never mind! Just gather them all! posted by DummyJoe on 3/25/2003 at 1:28:57 AM
I recieved a bag of bike part's today soon after I left the shelter early this morning. I want to get a bike to ride so I started looking for part's behind the bike shop in my city. This bag had Campy part's which I know have some value, If I could sell these part's or trade for a bike it would make my life a little easier. They are about to shut down the computer's at the city library for the night I will hang around in front for a little while then I got to get back to the shelter. If you want the part's Mr. Chris just drive by the city library in the next hour, I'm the one with the newspaper basket hung from around my neck and the reflector shinning off my ars##.






MISC:   Shimano brake repair posted by: JONathan on 3/23/2003 at 11:24:46 PM
Got a Shimano rear brake that is in great condition except the pin that holds the cable onto the caliper was missing a little crown nut that anchors the pin to the caliper. The guy must have turn the nut the wrong direction and it sheared off the threaded end of the pin. I removed the pin, filed the threaded stub flush with the pin; drilled and tapped a 8-32 screw into the end of the pin. I used a washer and high grade screw to fasten the pin back on the caliper. I guess lock tite would be a good idea, too.
Is this a safe set up? The LBS wanted $45 US for a replacement brake; couldn't buy just the anchor pin assembly! I'm giving it a test run, today. Thanks, JONathan


   RE:MISC:   Shimano brake repair posted by JONathan on 3/23/2003 at 11:36:52 PM
Oh, the brake is a Shimano 600 series side-puller.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Shimano brake repair posted by Darryl on 3/24/2003 at 1:12:57 AM
Most local bike shops have replacement cable anchor bolt and nut combinations for couple of bucks. Thats a common brake.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Shimano brake repair posted by JONathan on 3/24/2003 at 2:58:31 AM
Pacific Bikes is where I tried, since it's the closest. Thanks David. They seem focused on new bikes. I think I'll shift my business to the guy 5 miles down the road who has a stand-alone business. I rode 25 miles with no problems with the fix. It may be stronger than the original design, since the machine screw is tougher than the pot metal steel used in that pin. No little pencil-neck threaded end to break off, either. The flush appearance looks better, too, IMHO. I clamped down real hard, too.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Shimano brake repair posted by JONathan on 3/25/2003 at 3:35:36 AM
I meant; "Thanks, Darryl". Well, I am happy with the results of the fix. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."; someone with wisdom once said. I tried another major chain and they didn't have that "common part" either.
I have the independent shop to try, just for fun. Most of the bike shops seem similar in their setups. New bikes all over the place inside...I mean crammed into every nook and cranny. It's overwhelming to see so many bikes at one time.
The parts on display are minimal. I'm not surprised I couldn't locate the part. Maybe bike shops near you are different. I hope. Roll on, JONathan







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   RE:MISC:    velo-retro catologs posted by Darryl on 3/24/2003 at 1:35:51 AM
I recently purchased his 714 pp. Campy catalog. It is very comprehensive and of good quality. Well worth the investment.

   RE:MISC:    velo-retro catologs posted by P Lavery on 3/27/2003 at 1:06:03 AM
Too bad they don't have anything on Gitane






AGE / VALUE:   free spirit posted by: shandi on 3/23/2003 at 4:20:33 AM
my mom recently picked up a bike that some one moving was discarding. the only stickers on it say "free spirit" I'm not sure how to go about looking it up, tried the links here but no results... its a cruiser style, numbers on the bottom of the hub? (the thing the pedals go into) are: 3121j532 and 489-674160. any advice would be greatly appriciated.
thank you,
Shandi


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   free spirit posted by Oscar on 3/23/2003 at 4:50:58 AM
Free Spirit was Sears Roebuck's house brand. Some of these were made in Austria and were quite nice. Others were made in USA and were crud muffins. Usually the ones with one-piece cranks were USA.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   free spirit posted by Shandi on 3/23/2003 at 6:04:37 AM
it doesn't appear to be a one piece, but all the hardware is shimano... not sure if it's the origional hardware... it's a 10 speed(forgot to put that last time)has fenders and a rack on the back... oh, and there is another mark on the hub... M7A. if it turns out to be a crud muffin, at least she's a beautiful one:D

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   free spirit posted by Oscar on 3/23/2003 at 10:48:12 PM
How are the tubes of the bike joined together? Are they joined together with lugs (sleeve-like things that the tubes fit into?) That's an indication of Euro or USA.

Do the Shimano parts have 333 on them? If so, they may be original, early 70's parts.

You didn't mention the color, which is often the best part of a bike. I briefly had a FS three-speed in a nice Metalic Dark Red, which was really nice.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   free spirit posted by Shandi on 3/25/2003 at 9:31:01 PM
its a metalic burgandy/red with gold detail on it:) the rear derailer says skylark in it, but I didn't see any numbers.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   free spirit posted by Oscar on 3/26/2003 at 4:46:23 AM
No crud-muffin there. An absolute-beaut.






MISC:   Nakamura "challenge" 14 sp. posted by: JONathan on 3/22/2003 at 8:40:43 PM
Another X-known bike. Anyone heard of this one? Chro-mo plain gauge main tubes, Shimano Exage group (300EX) with "biopace". 21 inch. frame. Tight rear geometry, relaxed front angle (large rake) has me confused as to its design purpose. Has 25-622's front and rear. Front is Belgian "allese", rear is a Taiwanese "Sumo". The rear axle is solid, the front is skewered. This bike had two primo tires, which is why I was interested in the bike. The LBS had a equivalent product for more than the whole bike cost at ST. Vincent Charity Store. I have two good tires for my Specialized "Allez" RB, now. The Exage brakes look like they are similar to the Shimano 600's. The Nakamura has the great tape on the bar along with concealed brake lines. I have heard of Nakamura in MTB circles, I think one is called; "Hurricane". The shifters are down-tube, boss mounts. There is a Peugeot UO-8 ($25) and a Miyata "one twelve" with a cranked seat stay that might go cheaper. I guess the drought is over.
It'll be nice to get those tires onto the Allez and onto the road this spring. Thanks for info. This Nakamura is a strange bike. It has great paint and decals; no crash signs either. JONathan


   RE:MISC:   Nakamura posted by JONathan on 3/22/2003 at 9:04:20 PM
The price? $24.50 US. ($35.00 x 70%). Friday is discount-day. Cheers, JONathan

   RE:RE:MISC:   Nakamura posted by Dave on 3/24/2003 at 9:44:34 PM
Jonathan,
I'm envious , our St. Vincent stores always have Mixte frames or Kids bikes.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Nakamura posted by JONathan on 3/26/2003 at 4:50:17 AM
Hi, Dave. There were a lot of mixtes about 2 years back. Now, there are a lot of 10/12 speed road touring bikes, The MTB's have pretty much faded. I guess that's good for you, since the mixtes will give way to vintage LW's...I hope for you. This area is heavily populated and generally affluent, so I guess that may have something to do with good bikes ending up in St. Vincents. I'm eyeing a UO-8 for friday's 30% off. It's still there. Wish me luck. JONathan

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Nakamura posted by Dave on 3/26/2003 at 7:27:59 PM
Good Luck,(what color is it?)

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Nakamura posted by JONathan on 3/27/2003 at 3:58:40 AM
Black. Interesting thing is my UO-8 is also black. Same size frame. I'm using a cyclone derailer on it. The Huret fr. is still original. A great bike for all-around. The St. Vincent UO-8 has been fitted with 26 in. wheels! It also has stand pegs on the rear axle, like a BMX's. Frame is sound enough. It's worth $17.50 just for the forks and BB. Thanks. I better get there at lunchtime, friday.
Are you looking for a UO-8, or anything else? JONathan

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Nakamura posted by Dave on 3/28/2003 at 2:35:32 PM
Raleigh cranks,Dura-ace 16 tooth cog,(only bike w/Dura-ace),Brooks saddle,Suntour front brake.Just need to figure out a handlebar.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Nakamura posted by Dave on 3/27/2003 at 7:03:49 PM
Not right now,my wife's back from visiting her mother and I've got a KHS Track frame coming next week.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Nakamura posted by JONathan on 3/28/2003 at 5:28:59 AM
I see. Well, I'm OK, because one more bike wouldn't be noticed. As long as I keep them out of the living quarters, I'm safe.
Good luck on your project. What's going on the KHS frame? Besides wheels, of course.






WANTED:   Cry for help posted by: Rif Addams on 3/22/2003 at 7:03:23 PM
Hi All,
As you may or may not know, I am involved in the George A. Wyman Centennial Recreation of 2003.
I am to be 'the man in the saddle' (or as Jim W. likes to call me 'the intrepid motonaut'); in which I will be riding a near replica of a 1903 California brand Motor Bicycle from San Francisco to New york City. We are recreating the first crossing of the United States (Coast to Coast) by motor vehicle. All the details can be seen at:
http://bikerodnkustom3.homestead.com/wyman1.html
Our replica is nearly ready, but we have come upon a major roadblock. We have the wrong length spokes. Our spokes are just slightly too long. We are having a problem finding the proper length spokes in the proper diameter.
This wouldn't be an issue if we had a spoke thread roller, as we could roll the threads a bit longer then cut or grind the spokes back to the length we need.

Here are the spec.s for the wheels and spokes:
We are using 28" X 1 1/2" rims with a 1949 New Departure Model D rear brake hub.
Our current spokes are 3mm diameter (.105") and 305 mm length.
We need, for the rear hub, a spoke length of 299/300mm and for the front a spoke length of 302mm,.
This would be in a 3 cross pattern. We ran the numbers for a 4 cross pattern as well and that won't work either.

Basically what I am asking of you is this:
Preferably- if someone has a thread rolling tool that we could borrow just for long enough to do the minor adjustments neccessary to these spokes could we pretty please make arrangements for the use of the tool just long enough to correct this problem?
if that isn't a possibility- if you know of a supplier where we can get these in short order please let us know.
Thank you for your time,
Rif Addams


   RE:WANTED:   Cry for help posted by Ken on 3/24/2003 at 10:00:35 PM
For those who missed our man Sam Lingo's post (back in the winter?) the Wyman adventure is a great read about crossing the US by motor bicycle in 1903. You have got to check this out.
http://bikerodnkustom3.homestead.com/wyman1.html
Sam is an expert on the 28" era; he helped find parts to build a replica for Mr. Addams's centennial ride.






AGE / VALUE:   Ever heard of CDI??? posted by: Ricky on 3/22/2003 at 7:42:05 AM
When I was a young-un, About 1971/2, I built up a bike a piece at a time over a two summers buying a piece at a time. I didn't know as much as I should, so I was just following the lead of the local bike shop guru. He was ten years older than me (an eternity of wisdom-credit) had really long hair, and was a certified sew-up-tire-bike-racer-dope-smokin-hippie-type and I was mesmerized. That said, I ordered an Italian frame labeled "CDI" and while I was told the meaning of this cryptic moniker, I dont recall it now. The frame was steel (maybe Columbus?)and was double-butted and lugged, but the lugs were rather plain. It was pretty darn light, but it was about two pounds more (it had clinchers) than the Mercier that he rode. It was more than a dozen pounds lighter than a varsity.
has anyone ever heard of such a frame or company?
I would really like to re-construct the bike.