VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by: Kurt K. on 11/22/2005 at 1:01:56 AM
I'm just about done getting my '85 Nishiki Prestige road-ready, save for one part I've been having a tad of trouble finding: A front Dia-Compe G brake caliper. I have the rear, but the frameset never came with the front.

I've helped jinxed myself by mounting 27" rims on the bike,(should take 700Cs), and as a result, I need some pretty short-reach calipers to do the job - hence the need for the short-reach Dia-Compe G.

In fact, I'd gladly take a both the front and rear caliper, so I can use the shorter reach arms from the rear caliper with the mounting shaft from the front caliper.

I'm not aiming for accuracy here - just functionality.

Here's a picture of the G-lever variant I currently have on the Nishiki:

http://www.jaysmarine.com/DiacompeG.jpg

If you have one (or a pair)...give me a buzz at cudak888@aol.com...

-Kurt
by: 205.188.117.10


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Gralyn on 11/22/2005 at 3:23:05 PM
I have a Niskiki Prestige also.....probably about 1985. I was going to put some 27" wheels on it - but I couldn't get them to fit. You were able to put 27" wheels on yours? Maybe the 27" wheel I was using had tires that were taller - and wouldn't fit.
by: 198.137.214.36

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Kurt K on 11/23/2005 at 1:31:40 AM
Howdy there Gralyn, I was hoping to attract your attention with this post, as I knew you owned an '85 Prestige as well (if you want to check the date, read the back of the brake calipers for the date stamp, **84 or **85).

Yes, I put 27s on mine - a pair of Ukai 27X1-1/8" alloy rims, 36/40 spoking.

It is true though that standard 27X1-1/4" tyres will not fit the space given on the Prestige. I currently have an old IRC Super HP 27X1-1/8" on the front rim, and it just clears the fork crown by about 5 mm. The rear is an NOS Michelin Elan (Ever heard of those? First ever tyre made for hooked rims only, and I could use another one), which, as it's about the equivilant of a 700X23C in width, fits like a glove, with 1.5 cms of clearance.

I do plan to get a different pair of tyres to use on the bike though, preferably 27X1-1/8". I hear that one of the LBS has a pair of Specialized 27X1s" though, so I plan to check that first.

Hopefully, I'll find the matching Dia-Compe G at that shop too...or I'll have to drill the fork to accomodate a Shimano 600.

Take care,

-Kurt


by: 152.163.100.199

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Kurt K. on 11/23/2005 at 2:20:32 PM
Pic for your enjoyment:

http://www.jaysmarine.com/Nishiki_2.jpg

Yes, that's correct - hardly anything on it is original.

-Kurt
by: 152.163.100.199

   Michelin Elan posted by John E on 11/23/2005 at 6:10:34 PM
I do remember the Michelan Elan very well. I bought a pair when they first came out, for my Nishiki. That was the first high-performance clincher tire.

When I converted my 1962 Bianchi Corsa from 26" to 27" wheels, I had to replace the front Universal sidepull caliper with a Weinmann 500, an extremely short-reach sidepull.
by: 66.185.168.82

   RE:Michelin Elan posted by Gralyn on 11/23/2005 at 7:04:12 PM
Yes, a good thing about a lot of these old lightweight bikes - you can change them around however you want to.

On my Nishiki Prestige - it has a white and black frame...or black and white.....actually I believe it's black with a white seat tube and white head tube. But it also came with gold anodized rims, gold anozided chainring, gold brake calipers, etc. Well, with the frame being black and white....and then this gold stuff - then I got the idea to coordinate everything black and white. So, I had some SunTour LePree components that were black....black brake calipers, black brake levers, black ders., etc. Then I found some black chainrings - and put all that on....a black stem......now the bike is all black and white. (except for the rims. I still have the gold rims on there - because I couldn't fit the 27's. Now, I think I will look around the shop and find some lower profile 27" tires to mount on some 27" rims and see how that goes.

I would like to take the "gold" set and use it on something else.
by: 198.137.214.36

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Joe on 11/24/2005 at 8:21:18 AM
Found this on eBay, I have used these in the skinwall version on a frame meant for 700c rims with good luck. In my situation, I had only the clearance for this tire along with a 500G caliper in the front, the rear clearance was no problem. I can speak for the skin wall version, it's a true 1" tire that runs very true, and can handle higher pressures. I have had a set on a pair of Rigida 13-20 rims for a few years now at 110psi. They also have a good period correct look.

(Not my sales)

(Gum wall)
http://cgi.ebay.com/IRC-27-x-1-bicycle-tires-NOS-3-99-each_W0QQitemZ7198157983QQcategoryZ42334QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

(Skinwall)
http://cgi.ebay.com/IRC-TRIATHLON-27-x-1-TIRE-115-PSI-SKIN-WALL_W0QQitemZ7182657557QQcategoryZ42334QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


by: 71.251.130.118

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Kurt K. on 11/24/2005 at 1:48:11 PM
All's well that ends well:

I was very lucky to find a parts box of Dia-Compe 400s at one of the other LBS (not to mention a gigantic collection of NOS Campy and Dia-Compe parts in the back rooms). The pity of it is that I forgot the aero mounting nut. Oh well...

My Prestige came as you see it, dark blue/white & teal with the aluminum components in the 'usual' finish. Sugino VP crankarms.

Speaking of tyres, the 27X1-1/8" size will simply not clear the front fork adequately.

I WAS lucky enough to find three Specialized 27X1" tires at the LBS though! One is an NOS Turbo/S (Kevlar bead, had the original installation instrutions with it too) in it's original box, one Turbo/LS (wire bead) and one Turbo/LR (wire bead slick).

I mounted the Turbo/S and Turbo/LS on the bike last night, and they look great. It's a pity that the skinwall on the LS is a tad dirty, but I don't want to clean it for fear of making the tyre slippery.

I appriciate the link to those auctions, Joe - might need to get a pair once the Specialized tyres wear out.

-Kurt
by: 205.188.117.5

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Paul on 11/26/2005 at 4:15:23 AM
The obvious thing to do is mount 700c wheels back on your bike. Why screw aroun with semi-obsolete wheels. Especially when the bike was made for 700s in the first place? DUH!!
by: 4.228.141.141

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Kurt K. on 11/26/2005 at 2:56:16 PM
Sounds good Paul - send me a pair of 700C rims, then.

Here's some photos for everyone to enjoy:

http://www.jaysmarine.com/Nish_Pr_1.jpg
http://www.jaysmarine.com/Nish_Pr_2.jpg
http://www.jaysmarine.com/Nish_Pr_3.jpg
http://www.jaysmarine.com/Nish_Pr_4.jpg

Take care,

-Kurt
by: 152.163.100.199

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Paul on 11/26/2005 at 10:51:29 PM
Kurt, I have at least two pair of 700c wheels that I no longer use. Campy 36 hole sm fl Record, one with Mavic rims, and one set with Campy Omega box section rims.
Make me an offer.
by: 4.228.228.39

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Gralyn on 11/27/2005 at 4:37:21 AM
I took a set of 27" wheels - on which I already had a set of those gum wall tires listed in the message above - I tried them on the Nishiki Prestige - and they fit OK. There was enough clearance to not be concerned at all. There was not problem with the brake calipers reaching either.
by: 152.163.101.12

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Kurt K. on 11/28/2005 at 1:28:12 AM
Thank you just the same, but I think I can do without those 700C rims for now (and finances here are not good enough to handle another round of shipping costs for a pair of wheels).

The 27"s work fine, as if the bike was built with the intention of using a 27" rim with a 27X1" tyre mounted to it.

As Gralyn mentions, caliper reach is not an issue either.

-Kurt
by: 152.163.100.199

   RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Kurt K. on 11/28/2005 at 1:29:22 AM
P.S.: Once finances get better, what I could use is a nice frameset of Reynolds 531...

-Kurt
by: 152.163.100.199

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Kurt K. on 11/29/2005 at 2:35:42 AM
P.S. #2:

>Why screw around with semi-obsolete wheels?

'Cause that's what us vintage cycle collectors do - the impossible!

-Kurt
by: 152.163.100.199

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by Robert St-Laurent on 9/1/2007 at 8:01:04 AM
Looking for 27 by 1 inch clincher tires, does anyone know if these are still available. If so please write me at robere@sympatico.ca.

Merci
rstl
by: 67.70.105.144

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by aloha cycle works on 4/28/2008 at 9:58:36 PM
i have a nishiki prestige (1984) light blue,it has a very unusual factory flaw the head tube decal is upsidedown i dont know if this adds any value like a double stamped coin. but any info would be helpful.

thanx,
matt


by: 71.117.237.133


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dia-Compe G brake caliper posted by aloha cycle works on 4/28/2008 at 10:03:20 PM
i have a nishiki prestige (1984) light blue,it has a very unusual factory flaw the head tube decal is upsidedown i dont know if this adds any value like a double stamped coin. but any info would be helpful.

thanx,
matt


by: 71.117.237.133







AGE / VALUE:   PX-10 vs. PR-10 posted by: Bryan on 11/21/2005 at 10:48:19 PM
I had a chance to check out the new Peugeot this weekend, particularly the Reynolds 531 Sticker. The whole ride home I wondered about it, figuring that mine would probably turn out to be a PR-10 with chrome stays.

The Reynolds 531 sticker is indeed diagonal, suggesting its the PX-10 model. Specifically, the part that says "Reynolds 531" is printed diagonal, while the French text is printed horizontal. The French text reads "Garanti Construit.....Tubes Renforces Fourreaux De Fourche Et Arrieres."

As far as the lugs, my closer examination shows that they are not fancy. They have a simple point design, but seem definitely plain compared to some fancy lugs I have seen pictures of.

I am wondering why the chrome fork does not have a 531 sticker. Did PX-10s come equipped with 531 forks?

One other question, it seems my wheels are not original. They are Araya 27 inchers laced to Schwinn Approved high flange hubs and quick releases. I'd like to install a better set of more authentic wheels. Any ideas?
by: 146.145.49.238


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   PX-10 vs. PR-10 posted by David on 11/22/2005 at 12:02:17 AM
The French sticker indicates 531 fork and stays (fourche et arrieres) but the all-chrome fork suggests to me that it's a replacement. All the Peugeots I've seen have painted forks with chrome tips.

Someone will have details, but I'm sure all the older PX-10s had French hubs and tubulars.
by: 66.30.200.82

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   PX-10 vs. PR-10 posted by Paul on 11/22/2005 at 1:26:29 AM
Bryan, your Peugeot originally came with Normandy Luxe Competition high flange hubs laced to Mavic Montherly rims (I think I butchered the rim spelling). My PX-10 also came with the plain lugs you describe. However, if they are the same as mine, they are Nervex lugs, just not the Nervex Pros we all wanted when we bought our PX-10s. I purchased mine in 1972. And I still have it.
by: 4.228.228.118

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   PX-10 vs. PR-10 posted by Bryan on 11/22/2005 at 6:11:02 PM
Oops, my mistake. The fork is indeed painted white, whith the chrome tips. The fork appears stock as the decals match those on the main tubes.

All in all I am very excited to have gotten this bike and I will treasure it each time I ride it (often).
by: 146.145.49.238

   :   PX-10 vs. PR-10 posted by John E on 11/23/2005 at 6:15:19 PM
Yes, you definitely have a PX-10. Sometime in the early 1970s, they changed from fancy to plain lugs. Great bike, nice find! Yes, you definitely want Normandy Luxe Competition high flange hubs, although your Schwinn Approved hubs are at least lower-end Normandies. You can have my Normandy Luxe Competitions, which I am using with the Capo, if you can trade me a pair of ca. 1960 Campagnolo high-flange hubs, which would be correct for it. :)
by: 66.185.168.82






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Moto on ebay... posted by: Warren on 11/20/2005 at 9:39:59 PM
Here's a sweet Motobecane in Melville NY, pickup only.
by: 70.51.156.77


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: Moto on ebay... posted by Warren on 11/21/2005 at 9:17:31 PM
ooops ... # 7198611705
by: 70.51.158.28






VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   peugeot PY10 bike, Peugeot bike, bicycle posted by: Mike on 11/19/2005 at 4:12:24 AM
I am resotring my old PY10. Can't find a good picture of the Silver color the bike once was. Anyone out there able to help with a picture of a Silver Peugeot bicycle so that I can compare color to?
Thanks hope to hear back soon.
Mike
by: 70.56.116.86


   :   peugeot PY10 bike, Peugeot bike, bicycle posted by John E on 11/23/2005 at 6:16:39 PM
Is it a true automotive silver color, or more of a pearl gray/white? My 1980 PKN-10 is the latter.
by: 66.185.168.82






AGE / VALUE:   Valve stem cover posted by: George on 11/19/2005 at 1:58:52 AM
I've recently misplaced the 2 part valve stem cover from my Raleigh. it is the type with the 2 pronged valve core wrench, in brass, that says Schrader on it. Anyone know where these can be found? thank you.
by: 70.59.140.87


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Valve stem cover posted by David on 11/19/2005 at 4:14:17 PM
Try an automotive tire dealer.
by: 66.30.200.82