VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   sweet Lenton Sports... posted by: Warren on 5/12/2005 at 1:09:38 AM
...on ebay 6531110751. Original and very good condition. And a nice ride to boot. Not mine.
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AGE / VALUE:   Scwhinn "tempo" roadbike posted by: Elvis on 5/10/2005 at 4:56:57 PM
Hi all.

Just picked up a nice lugged road bikes. Schwinn Tempo, all decals removed. Frame is Columbus Tenax steel, "made in Japan for Scwhinn", lugged, with Tange headset, Laprade fluted microadjust seatpost, Diacompe 400 sidepulls, non-aero levers, shimano downtube shifters, and sugino cranks (52/42t rings) with 130 bolt pattern. Braze ons for 2 waterbottles, not the one often seen on older bikes which so oftewn lack the 2nd spot on the seat tube.


Any idea how old it is or where the Tempo sat int he lineup? I've had several older Schwinn's and never heard of "tempo" before.

Any info greatly appreciated.

-- Elvis
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Scwhinn posted by jack on 5/11/2005 at 6:10:35 AM
There was a Tempo and one or two other similar models (Prelude?) made in Japan with Tenax in early-80's. Typical good jap quality but utterly unremarkable. I found one frame in the dumpster a year ago and thought I had something. Wound-up taking a hack-saw to it after I ripped the badge.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Scwhinn posted by marc on 5/11/2005 at 6:23:05 PM
I'd agree these aren't really collectible but I'd never take a hacksaw to one. They're quality bikes and although they're no raleigh pro or masi they're nice rides. If you ride vintage steel and you don't feel like running your raleigh pro or masi into the ground these make nice daily commuters. I think they also represent what schwinn should have done long before the 80's, make quality bikes with name brand tubing that could compete with other companies and gain some respect in the cycling community. What do you think of when someone says schwinn 10 speed or lightweight, you think of a 40 pound varsity.

Besides all that, the fixed gear crowd here in chicago go crazy for these. I often pick one up for 20.00 and flip for 100.00-150.00 depending on condition. I personally think the 80's paint and decals are pretty cool and I think that's part of the reason why they're popular.
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   Thanks! posted by Elvis on 5/11/2005 at 9:44:36 PM
Thanks!

In all honesty, the parts *are* better than my old '85 letour, tho that had cooler lugs ....However, as someone whose built up a few fixed gear bikes, I can say it wouldn't make a good "fix". The downtube shifters are brazeons, not clamp mounted, so any aspiring fixed-gear fiend would have little ugly stubs left on the downtube if he removed the shifters.

-- Elvis
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   Thanks! posted by Elvis on 5/11/2005 at 9:44:54 PM
Thanks!

In all honesty, the parts *are* better than my old '85 letour, tho that had cooler lugs ....However, as someone whose built up a few fixed gear bikes, I can say it wouldn't make a good "fix". The downtube shifters are brazeons, not clamp mounted, so any aspiring fixed-gear fiend would have little ugly stubs left on the downtube if he removed the shifters.

-- Elvis
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Scwhinn posted by Dana on 5/29/2005 at 7:24:38 PM
Hey, assuming that bike is light blue - I would say it's from 1985-1986. I have one of those that I bought brand new in 1986. It is now a fixie. Send me your email and I'll send you a picture.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Scwhinn posted by Travis on 4/16/2008 at 9:31:23 AM
Im putting togethor a 1988 or maybe 89 tempo and need to know the seat post size.Im going by the Sheldon Brown site and it looks like it would be 26.6?Its got the blue and white paint scheme. Also where can i find the year? On the bottom bracket schell?
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Scwhinn posted by Matt on 4/28/2008 at 11:30:55 AM
I'm doing the exact same thing with a NOS frame I got on eBay and came across scanned catalogs on the schwinn owners website. The blue frame with white top tube is an '88 model (even though the seller listed it as an '89). It should also need a 26.6 seatpost. It came stock as a 6-speed with the full Shimano 105 group and a 52/42 crankset (too big for me). I'm probably going to transfer my mixed components (Ultegra rear derailleur, Suntour GPX front, Sugino crankset, cheap stem shifters, etc.) from the 93 Specialized Allez that I built up and then sort of wrecked. It's ridable but the tubes are a bit buckled so I got the Tempo as a back up frame. Not sure how much of a problem the 125mm rear spacing poses. Sheldon's (may he RIP) site says you should be able fit a 130mm rear wheel without having to cold set it. Guess we'll see...
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Scwhinn posted by Matt on 4/28/2008 at 12:13:02 PM
Just to make sure I checked the catalog page. The '89 is charcoal metallic and it has a 27.2 seatpost. The '88 is the blue/white scheme with a 26.6. Best of luck.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Scwhinn posted by Brian on 5/5/2008 at 1:47:03 PM
There were a couple white / blue combo color schemes in the 86-7 range, from almost-navy to aqua. I know the aqua and white is an '87.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Scwhinn posted by Bill on 5/20/2008 at 11:38:14 PM
My 1986 Tempo is hanging in the garage. Bought it new, haven't ridden it for about 3 years due to Age (mine) and weight (mine). I've lost 25 pounds since January and will be back on it this Summer. It is Ivory with a gray rear triangle. Have the owners manual and 1986 Schwinn catalog yet somewhere. I love the bike.
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AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot bicycle from 1950s or 1960s posted by: M. Morgan on 5/10/2005 at 5:22:14 AM
I do not know anything about bicycles. I have a Peugeot bicycle from the 1950s or 1960s with the original parts. I found a serial number on the frame that says "115739". The color looks almost purple. The stickers on the bike says "Trophee de France" and "Tube Special Allege". Does anyone know the value, if any, of this bike? Thanks.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot bicycle from 1950s or 1960s posted by Larry T. on 5/10/2005 at 10:35:20 AM
The six digit serial number would indicate that it is from the 60's. Value would depend on the model and condition. Are the ends of the wheel stays chrome? A PX-10 would be worth $250-$350 or more, depending on condition. Other models, maybe from $50 to $150. There is a lot of difference between a beat up bike and one near mint. If you have a photo, email it to me and I will try to give you a more accurate idea.
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      Peugeot bicycle from 1960s posted by John E on 5/11/2005 at 2:45:30 PM
The tubing sticker indicates plain carbon steel, rather than manganese-moly (531). Please list the components, including the presence or absence of a derailleur hanging tab. Statistically, it is most likely to be a circa 1970 UO-8, but you may have something less common and more valuable.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot bicycle from 1950s or 1960s posted by Larry T. on 5/12/2005 at 10:05:07 AM
Type in: Cycles Retro-Peugeot in your search engine and go to that site. It may help you identify your bike. The 1969 shows a color called GRUS that may be your purple color.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot bicycle from 1950s or 1960s posted by shelly on 8/5/2006 at 10:51:51 PM
i have a peugeot serial# 2506043-all original parts mint condition white no rust. i have been told it is a collectors item. and was wondering what it would be worth if you require further information please email me. thank you and look forward to your response back. Shelly
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AGE / VALUE:   Pristine UO-8 - So What? posted by: TimW on 5/9/2005 at 9:53:59 PM
Hey there. I want some feedbacka about whether there's ANY value in a pristine UO-8. I have one that seems to be essentially unridden, with all original parts. It's orange, and looks quite retro. It has the horrible Simplex plastic components, steel rims, etc. All I ever hear about UO-8's is that they are a dime a dozen, and have no VLW collector value.

I'm considering grabbing any useful parts (Ideale seat, MAFAC brakes), then either turfing the frame, or re-building with different parts as a cruiser for someone (cruisers are BIG in Vancouver right now). The frame does look great ... any feedback about this?

Also, I have recently bought the updated edition of Frank Berto's "The Dancing Chain", just out in bookstores. I didn't ever read the previous edition, so I don't know if this is better, but I am sure enjoying the book (even though there's a bit TOO much info about year-to-year changes to derailleurs).


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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Pristine UO-8 - So What? posted by jack on 5/10/2005 at 2:02:37 AM
Its unfortunate that in today's market a vintage bike is often worth more parted-out than whole. Personally, I don't agree with the philosophy that maximum profit must be made at all times. If it were my bike and I wanted to sell it, maybe I'd compromise and keep the Ideale (not to sell but to use) and sell the rest whole with a different seat. Now if you need many parts for another project, that's more justification for parting-out. UO-8s are somewhat common but in pristine that is not common. It's your bike so its fate is in your hands.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Pristine UO-8 - So What? posted by Warren on 5/10/2005 at 3:10:41 AM
Ran in to the same problem a couple of years ago except I got an even more mundane, 1967 AO-8...also near mint in a funky lime green. I had to buy it because of the condition. I have it in storage...look at it once a year...think briefly about how useful it's NOT...and then leave alone again. Kind of a conversation piece except I'm the only one privy to the conversation. Sad really...tragic even.
It's a lab experiment...see if it actually does skyrocket in value to tune of, say, a case of beer or two.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pristine UO-8 - So What? posted by JONathan on 5/10/2005 at 7:34:38 AM
The used bikes were going for around $200 at a local shop. A quick test ride will convince even the least bike-savvy customer that the VLW's (even used ones) are well worth the price, when compared to what is available for the same amount of money in a new bike. The UO-8 is easily upgraded with alloy wheels and cotterless cranks, which adds to their versatility as a commuter or recreational bike. I consider them to be classic bikes, which adds some value. However, as an investment prospect for high return, I would look into other commodities. Of course, there are fewer and fewer showing up in pristine condition, so who can say down the line. I just think they are cool bikes to ride and show off. Just my 2.
JONathan
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Pristine UO-8 - So What? posted by WArren on 5/10/2005 at 6:40:14 PM
My sarcasm isn't intended to suggest these bikes aren't good value in terms of utitlity and purpose but they will likely never be a "good investment" If I could only get $100 for every decent UO-8 I've passed on...
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    Pristine UO-8 posted by John E on 5/11/2005 at 2:54:55 PM
Don't be too quick to rule out collectibility of a PRISTINE UO-8; look at what a nicely restored mundane 1955-57 Chevrolet is worth these days! The Peugeot UO-8 and the Schwinn Varsity filled precisely the same niche in the bicycle market. In the past two years, we have seen prices of these entry-level bike boom 10-speeds rise pretty impressively.

As regular readers know, one of my commuter/beater bikes is a red, decidedly NON-pristine ca. 1972 UO-8, which I originally bought as a bare frame when I worked at Bikecology and built for my wife with aluminum cranks, rims, and handlebars, plus SunTour barcons and rear derailleur and Shimano Titlist front derailleur. You won't find a decent new bike for the paltry investment my UO-8 represents.
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   RE: Pristine UO-8 posted by marc on 5/11/2005 at 6:27:15 PM
last year I sold a pristine ladies white uo-8 mixte for almost 200.00 on ebay. It went to a collector in japan. The japanese are crazy for franco stuff. The key is as in most collectibles, condition.
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   RE:RE: Pristine UO-8 posted by TimW on 5/12/2005 at 12:00:58 AM
Wow, thanks for all the feedback. I was thinking of ditching the frame, but as I was hauling it out to the alley, I couldn't because it just looks so pretty. I have reconsidered, and think I'll go the aluminum wheel & cotterless crank approach, and make a comfy and fun city rider for someone. After all, the hottest thing at Canadian Tire and Sport Chek these days are retro bikes - and most of them are NOT designed for real riding.
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VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   F/S 1950's Raleigh 28" and French Auto-Moto posted by: Joe on 5/9/2005 at 2:19:43 AM
Both are 3 speeds orig paint will be for sale at Bicycle Rack- Swapmeet 5/15/05 RAIN OR SHINE
683 Route 33 West. Hightstown. right off the Jersey turnpike.
see you there.

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