MISC:   sears,roebuck and co. freespirit bicycle posted by: eddie blunt on 8/23/2005 at 12:41:36 AM
wanting to know the year it was made.i have two ser# 502 474020 and d3052169.
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   RE:MISC:   sears,roebuck and co. freespirit bicycle posted by JONathan on 8/23/2005 at 4:43:02 AM
I have one from the late '60's from Austria (Steyr-Daimler-Puch). Look on the headbadge for "Made-in-Austria" and you have at least early '70's. The "Freespirit" was transferred to Taiwan and they are not as well built, IMHO. Those early Sears bikes had excellent quality, especially for the price.
My early '60's cost $49! It was J.C. Higgins 3-sp. built in Austria, with a Komet rear hub.
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      sears,roebuck and co. freespirit bicycle posted by John E on 8/23/2005 at 3:08:03 PM
Many of the 1970s Free Spirits look and feel like Huffy or Murray boat anchors. They are junk compared to the earlier S-D-P products, which were at least decent entry-level 10-speeds.
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   RE:   sears,roebuck and co. freespirit bicycle posted by Dick in FL on 8/24/2005 at 11:20:45 PM
I have one of these Sears S-D-P bikes. It is *not* a Free Spirit. The rear derailleur is Shimano Lark, but it has some sort of disk in place of the spoke protector which rotates past a fixed pointer to achieve one of five levels of adjustment. What is this? The fit and finish is superior... better than a Raleigh. I acquired it in original nearly unused condition with the original friable European tires.
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   sears bicycle posted by John E on 8/25/2005 at 12:18:46 AM
Dick -- do you have a front freewheel?
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   RE:sears bicycle posted by Dick in FL on 8/25/2005 at 6:00:52 PM
John .... no front freewheel, but it does have a really funky chrome chain guard (5-speed). Do you happen to know what the adjustment on the "spoke guard" is all about?

FYI: Most of the nuts have a finish face with rounded corners, and the washers are generally the serrated type. Also, the braking surfaces on the rims are knurled and emit a pleasant (for the moment) whine when the brakes are applied. Chrome steel fenders, upright handlebars.
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   RE:MISC:   sears,roebuck and co. freespirit bicycle posted by 5ifth on 8/27/2005 at 11:11:05 PM
i've got a blue freespirit 10 speed any idea how old?
where would i look on the bike to see?
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    freespirit bicycle posted by John E on 8/28/2005 at 12:07:39 AM
Since Free Spirits came from various vendors over the years, I would be surprised if they had any self-consistent serial number sequence. Three-piece cottered cranks would generally indicate 1960s, whereas one-piece Ashtabulas would indicate a more recent made-in-USA or made-in-Taiwan boat anchor. Also, you can sometimes extract date codes from the components, particularly the crankset or the rear derailleur.
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   RE:MISC:   sears,roebuck and co. freespirit bicycle posted by Daddywags on 9/8/2005 at 2:51:01 AM
wife has an old freespirit that seems to be a pretty good bike. i has shimano in the rearend and the shifter is an indexing type. i bought one for my daughter a few years ago since i like my wifes bike and the shifter is not indexing type but is shimano also. daughters bike needs a bearing race in front and possibly in back. i know i dont want to spend a lot of money on a cheap bike but for a trainer for the daughter i would spend a few bucks. as i said they seem to be pretty good bikes. they are sturdy not too heavy (boat anchor) good all around bike. i have a trek 520 that i have to tinker with the shimano very often it is so finiky that it is often that i am peddeling like crazy only to have it jump the chain and try to kill me. these little free spirits have been riden on some long rides into town from our camping area without the slightest problem. does anybody out there know if parts are available?
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   RE:MISC:   sears,roebuck and co. freespirit bicycle posted by Daddywags on 9/8/2005 at 2:53:43 AM
wife has an old freespirit that seems to be a pretty good bike. i has shimano in the rearend and the shifter is an indexing type. i bought one for my daughter a few years ago since i like my wifes bike and the shifter is not indexing type but is shimano also. daughters bike needs a bearing race in front and possibly in back. i know i dont want to spend a lot of money on a cheap bike but for a trainer for the daughter i would spend a few bucks. as i said they seem to be pretty good bikes. they are sturdy not too heavy (boat anchor) good all around bike. i have a trek 520 that i have to tinker with the shimano very often it is so finiky that it is often that i am peddeling like crazy only to have it jump the chain and try to kill me. these little free spirits have been riden on some long rides into town from our camping area without the slightest problem. does anybody out there know if parts are available?
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   RE:MISC:   sears,roebuck and co. freespirit bicycle posted by Daddywags on 9/8/2005 at 2:58:37 AM
wife has an old freespirit that seems to be a pretty good bike. i has shimano in the rearend and the shifter is an indexing type. i bought one for my daughter a few years ago since i like my wifes bike and the shifter is not indexing type but is shimano also. daughters bike needs a bearing race in front and possibly in back. i know i dont want to spend a lot of money on a cheap bike but for a trainer for the daughter i would spend a few bucks. as i said they seem to be pretty good bikes. they are sturdy not too heavy (boat anchor) good all around bike. i have a trek 520 that i have to tinker with the shimano very often it is so finiky that it is often that i am peddeling like crazy only to have it jump the chain and try to kill me. these little free spirits have been riden on some long rides into town from our camping area without the slightest problem. does anybody out there know if parts are available?
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VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bertin 10 sp. posted by: JONathan on 8/22/2005 at 9:06:33 PM
This French 10 sp. looks similar to a Peugeot UO-8 from the early '70's (possibly late '60's) except for design specific features such as brazed-on anchor posts for the down-tube shifters (Simplex). The hubs are Milremo instead of Normandy. Rigida "chromix" rims just as on UO-8's. The kickstand is mounted on a brazed-on bracket instead of crunching down on the chain-stays like most bikes. Alloy bars and Pivo stem; Mafac "racer" brakes with nice levers and hoods. Wild paint differentiates it form the usual black, white or blue schemes. It's brilliant purple! Large seat-tube foil decal with block-letter "BERTIN" on each side. This one is nearly unused with no paint nicks, except a small scuff on the down-tube which is tough to see without a close look. Rode it a few days and I have to give it a "10" for commute work. Real soft ride, but climbs well with the rigidness in rear-triangle and large chain-stay x-section. UO-8 feels lighter, but not much. 42 1/2" wheelbase helps smooth the ride even more. The bike has more "hand-made" look about the details than I see in my UO-8 stock. I compare it to my FUJI "Sports-12" for ride characteristics, but the FUJI is built better, especially in the BB. The Bertin reallty coasts a ways with those Milremo hubs. Probably this bike was set against the UO-8 and FUJI "Sports-12" for the market. If I had to pick 'em, I'd take the Bertin for overall ride and appearance, but the "sports-12" for ride and toughness. The UO-8 would be my third choice. The Bertin has cottered cranks (Nervar) while the "sports-12" has a Sugino cotterless steel crankset. UO-8 has cottered cranks on my early versions.
Just a couple of comparisons for what it's worth. If you can find a Bertin, I would definitely pick it up. They are very distinctive bike-boom bikes.
JONathan
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   :   Bertin 10 sp. posted by John E on 8/23/2005 at 3:11:47 PM
When I worked at Bikecology in the eary 1970s, one of our competitors, a Gitane dealership, began to carry Bertin, which even the owner of Bikecology had to admit were built and finished "like jewelry." I wouldn't necessarily say that a low-end Bertin is significantly better than a Peugeot UO-8, but it certainly is far better-looking, as were the Motobecanes and Gitanes of that era.
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   RE::   Bertin 10 sp. posted by JONathan on 8/25/2005 at 10:08:40 PM
Same conclusion. Mine has Atax stem, not Pivo (different bike). The UO/AO-8's that I have rolling are more agile in tight manuevering, but the Bertin is very easy riding...long-distance bike. Closest one is the Moto "GranTour", which has fine finish work for a mass-production bike. The Bertin finish is even more refined.
I think there was considerable attention to detail within their workplace. I am impressed. Placing Araya hp rims on it and swapping the cranks for an alloy Stronglight (170) is the next step.
This one could become a regular on my circuit of riding which is about 300 km/month.
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AGE / VALUE:   Nishiki semi-pro "american eagle" posted by: Jon in Des Moines on 8/22/2005 at 2:08:02 PM
found a nishiki semi pro at a yard sale, had 61 miles on the front wheel odometer and looks like it just came out of the box. I am trying to date this bike and can find no date codes on the suntour GT derailer, or the suntour compeV ft derailer. the only numbers stamped I can find is a 5-s stamped on the Taihel compe seat post, which seems to be may of 1976. Does that sound like a correct year for this bike? thanks for any info on this Nishiki semi pro model(with american eagle sticker on lower end of seat tube)
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    Nishiki semi-pro posted by John E on 8/22/2005 at 4:35:24 PM
It has to be pre-1973, when Kawamura dropped the American Eagle marque in favor of Nishiki and rebranded the Semi-Pro as the Competition.

There should be a serial number on the bottom bracket shell. I bought mine, KS78091, for $150 in March of 1971. The only colour options that year were yellow (mine), coffee, and green.

Mine had half-chrome forks, Raleigh-style wrap-around seat stays, 54-47 / 14-18-22-27-34 gearing, Sugino Mighty Compe 171mm cranks, Sunshine high-flange hubs, normal-high (reverse-shift) SunTour front derailleur, Araya alloy rims, and DiaCompe Weinmann-clone centerpull brakes.
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   RE: Nishiki semi-pro posted by Dick in FL on 8/22/2005 at 6:03:51 PM
Thanks to your earlier posting several weeks ago on the ranking/hierarchy of vintage Nishiki models, I was able to establish my orange Competition as a 1974 model. I bought it from the original ownwer at the close of his garage sale for $10. He had used it in earlier times for back-to-back centuries. Everyhing on the bike had been upgraded .... Dura-Ace brakes, Sun Tour barcon shifters, new tires, etc. It came with a velcro seat bag full of tools and a frame-mounted Zefal high pressure pump. (The Cateye Mity computer nolonger works.) All I did was repaint the frame after masking off the decals; I found the exact shade of orange at Walmart. This one also has the wraparound seat stays.

My Nishiki sub-collection runs from an American Eagle model up to a late 70's Centurion with Accushift.
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VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Old Huffy English lightweight posted by: Tom Harmon on 8/19/2005 at 7:13:48 PM
I have an old Huffy, made by Raleigh Ind. Ltd. serial #54479 CA, in original condition except tires & brake levers. Bike should have been manuf. in 1954-55. Should I donate this to a yard sale, or does it have enough value to look for a buyer?
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   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Old Huffy English lightweight posted by sam on 8/20/2005 at 4:31:06 AM
ask on the english roadsters group---huffy clubmans were raleigh built for a while---that group might want the bike---sam
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AGE / VALUE:   fixed project posted by: sam on 8/18/2005 at 7:57:55 PM
link to my fixed project.Still a work in progress,but getting closer.http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frameteam2003/album?.dir=/be02
the fixed hub is one taken from an exercise cycle---has reverse thread lock ring.I'm cheap!---sam
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   fixed project posted by David on 8/23/2005 at 2:56:50 PM
What gives with the bottom bracket work? Was the shell wrecked?
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