MISC:   New email newsgroup dedicated to Vintage Bicycle Restorations posted by: Peter Naiman on 9/25/2005 at 3:03:32 PM
This is a personal invite to anyone interested in bicycle restorations from myself to those who may want to join a new growing list that is dedicated cycle restorations. There are no hard fast governing rules to adhere to,
and it seems like a very congenial group. So far there are about 380 members and when I joined a few months ago there might have only 30-40, so it is growing quickly. To join, click on the URL
listed below.

http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bicycle_Restoration

I just joined the Wheelmen after lurking from the outside for years and have found most lists are dedicated the either Antiques, Lightweight Racer, Balloon Tyre, or Touring bikes etc, but no group deals with all areas of interest. I'd like too see a list in which all cycle groups come together and share information. It doesn't matter what era a cycle is from, we can all share our knowledge and interest.

P.S. to all, this is a personal disclaimer. This is not an attempt by me to steal away folks from the Bob, CR Lists or other lists as I'm a member of both and plan on staying active with both. It's just nice to have another public forum with which to air information without restrictions.

Best regards,
Peter Naiman
Glendale, WI

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    New email newsgroup dedicated to Vintage Bicycle Restorations posted by John E on 9/26/2005 at 3:56:18 PM
Thanks for posting, Peter. I am glad the site is attracting so much interest.
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VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Year/Model of Peugeot Road Bike posted by: Bryant on 9/25/2005 at 1:16:40 PM
Hi all. Need to tap into this world of knowledge out there. Picked up a Peugeot road bike at a yard sale for $15. Normally I wouldn't have thought of it, but the bike looked to be in excellent condition both mechanically and frame/paint wise. I'm just trying to figure out what year and model it is. It came with cottered cranks, Atax Stem, Simplex stem shifters, Simplex rear and front derailleurs, Weinmann sidepull brakes and levers with suicide levers (the ones that connect to the side of the lever, not the top). Wheels are Rigida Superchromix, dimpled rims hubs are Atom and are nutted. It is not externally lugged. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Year/Model of Peugeot Road Bike posted by JONathan on 9/26/2005 at 6:22:09 AM
Hi, Bryant. The stem-shifters, internally lugged frame and cottered cranks tells me it is mid to late '70's...probably more likely mid-70's due to cottered cranks. Interestingly, my Peugeots with "internal lugs" are all Nervar cotterless cranked and due to the "carbolite 103" decal on the seat-tubes, they are probably early '80's (Carbolite 103 shows up about then). Before that time, you saw "tube special allege" stickers. Those dimpled rims are something that has puzzled me from the start on how they are supposed to improve braking....if they were so intended. Mine make lots of whirring noise whilst braking, but the pad/rim surface area is greatly reduced which is like running with smaller pads! Actually, the steel rims are decent braking in dry conditions. Well, the steel Rigidas were on the entry level bikes; so that sets up the AO-8/UO-8 as strong candidates. If you have double eyes on the forks and rear dropouts, then you have the touring model. However, my UE-8's are all external-lugged frames, but they are cottered cranks and half-chrome forks too. I can get mine down to 25#'s with alloy everything, which makes them pretty quick bikes, but with relaxed cruiser geometry, they ride smooth enough give the rider a break on commutes or long rides.
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   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Year/Model of Peugeot Road Bike posted by Bryant on 9/26/2005 at 9:16:04 PM
Thanks JONathon. I checked the eyes, I have double on the fork, but single on the rear. The cottered cranks are Nervar, just got them off to clean them. I figure it is a lower end model (is that the AO-8??) but it does look to be in excellent condition. Too bad it's too small for me, will probably sell it or give it away.
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   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Year/Model of Peugeot Road Bike posted by JONathan on 9/27/2005 at 7:57:20 AM
Yeah, Bryant. That sounds good. The smallish frames will torque back and knees on anything but short hauls. I like to stretch forward and keep a straight back...hence the long top-tubes on my favorite bikes to ride. My small framed bikes are the ones that I fix up as original as possible...since I ain't planning to ride them anyway. This way, if I can't find a lucky recipient for my efforts, I at least have a good rep in the collection. If yours has half-chromed forks, it's not the AO-8. They were painted all the way, which actually appeals to me. Like one of my favorite bikes is a Miyata "three-tweleve" (triathalon bike) with all paint and understated decals; red with white border on on the down-tube and a small, red "three-tweleve" with a white streek across the letters to add some pizazz. I guess that is why I like my AO-8's a bit more than the UO-8's. Individual preference for appearance, but they handle the same. You done good, either way. I would swap out the cottered cranks as few can handle the pins, but if you give the bike away, nobody can gripe!
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FOR SALE:   early 80s 56cm Lotus Super Pro Aero with full Dura Ace AX group. posted by: Peter Naiman on 9/23/2005 at 5:55:51 PM
For sale: Very early 80s Lotus Super Pro aero bike with full Dura Ace AX group, size 56cm center to center. The frame needs full restoration and most components are in very good to good condition as I wanted to leave the bike as original as possible, but I've purchased NOS chainset in box with rings, pedals with toe straps, aero seat post and rear derailleur to complete the restoration and these will be included in the sale. This is a very unique bike with very unusual Nitto drop bars and stem. For full picture set in detail, please write off list. I'm selling as I just do not have time in the foreseeable future to get to complete this restoration as I've got too many other Hetchins restorations and work coming up.

Asking price to the group $950 or B/O.

Peter Naiman
Glendale, WI
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FOR SALE:   early 80s 56cm Lotus Super Pro Aero with full Dura Ace AX group. posted by: Peter Naiman on 9/23/2005 at 5:55:51 PM
For sale: Very early 80s Lotus Super Pro aero bike with full Dura Ace AX group, size 56cm center to center. The frame needs full restoration and most components are in very good to good condition as I wanted to leave the bike as original as possible, but I've purchased NOS chainset in box with rings, pedals with toe straps, aero seat post and rear derailleur to complete the restoration and these will be included in the sale. This is a very unique bike with very unusual Nitto drop bars and stem. For full picture set in detail, please write off list. I'm selling as I just do not have time in the foreseeable future to get to complete this restoration as I've got too many other Hetchins restorations and work coming up.

Asking price to the group $950 or B/O.

Peter Naiman
Glendale, WI
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VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Torpado Question posted by: Gralyn on 9/23/2005 at 4:50:25 PM
I have a Torpado....from all indications, probably an early 80's or so......and most likely, a "Beta" model. I haven't been able to find any additional information on it.
I have completely re-built it - cleaned and waxed the frame - tried to make it look as good as I could, etc. The paint is pretty dull, faded a bit, scratches here and there, missing a lot of the "torpado" lettering, missing the head badge (sticker-type). It looks OK (I'll get some pictures of it this weekend) but not really all that good.
My question is: is it worth trying to have the frame re-painted and re-decaled? Or would it not make all that much difference whether I did or not? Right now, I don't have much money in it....and it's probably worth more than I have in it.....but if I restore the finish on the frame - will I then have more in it than it's worth?
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