AGE / VALUE:   Phil Flip Flop posted by: Randy on 5/10/2006 at 2:00:50 AM
This is a dump related question. Yeaterday, day one of the free dumping, delivered a Phil(Woods?) flip flop hub. The hub is in great condition except for the sealed cartridge bearings. Does anyone have any experience with these hubs? I would like to rebuild the hub and I would like to know how to remove the old bearings. Any advice would be much appreciated.
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AGE / VALUE:   Landfill Day One posted by: Randy on 5/9/2006 at 11:11:11 AM
This is free dumping week at the local landfill site in Thunder Bay, Canada. I spent day one at the dump, counted well over forty bicycles that were thrown away in a single day and picked up: one Columbia balloon tire with a tank(traded it for a Dawes "Galaxy" before I got home), three good condition mountain bicycles that I gave away when I got home, several vintage wheels in good conditon and a bike for me. Someone had decided to toss a Peugeot PB19(?) with 453 Reynolds tubes. Nothing special about that but what a great wheel and crank set. The rear hub is a flip flop with single speed on one side and a fixed gear on the other. The cranks set is Campagnolo, again for a fixed or single speed and a beautiful Dura-Ace seat post. I haven't gotten into the bicycle to see if there is anything else special but I am happy about the wheel set. Back to the dump today and will update this forum with anything that I find. I honestly still have difficulty believing what we throw away. Did I mention that I also got a brand new seven foot aluminium step ladder and a good bench grinder. I am retired now and get to spend the whole day at the dump. Yahoo!!!
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    Landfill Day One posted by John E on 5/9/2006 at 2:21:58 PM
The vast quantity of still-useful goods thrown into landfills is a disgusting symptom of affluenza and the throwaway society. Nice saves, Randy!
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   RE: Landfill Day One posted by Gralyn on 5/9/2006 at 4:58:31 PM
It is amazing to me that so much is thrown out. I have difficulty throwing out stuff. I will see that an item has too many good parts left on it - to just throw it away. Of course, you can pile up too much junk that way!

But, on the one hand - you have people throwing away good stuff at the dump. On the other hand - you have people putting junk (and I mean junk) out in thrift stores and trying to sell it. It amazes me at the stuff I see in thrift stores that I, personally, would have thrown out (and I'm the person who has a hard time throwing stuff away). I have noticed that most thrift stores I know of - hardly have anything half-way decent anymore. Of course, there are no bikes anymore. But of the other stuff - nothing but junk.
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   RE:RE: Landfill Day One posted by Randy on 5/10/2006 at 2:00:00 AM
Landfill Update - Day Two: What a crappy day! It poured rain, most of the day, but the landfill site did not let me completely down. When I finally packed it in, seventeen bicycles had found their final resting place with roughly half of them being road bicycles. I did rescue a couple of mountain bicycles, one of which was a Specialized "Hard Rock". I also managed to drag home a really old, made in Taiwan, Sekine "Black Panther"(neat headbadge and a second matching badge on the rear luggage rack). The Panther is one heavy duty touring bicycle, complete with front and rear racks attached to brazed on mounts, an incredible set of tires, a cable driven speedometer, a nice old brass bell, dual generator powered headlights and, of course, a tail light. For the most part the Panther is a cheap bicycle that has been left to fend for itself in the harsh Northwestern Ontario climate. Rust prevailes but I did want to take some pictures for future reference(that is why I dragged it home). By the way, the Panther is REALLY heavy! I can only say that if I ever get serious about building a junk bike, the Panther is the answer(poetry?). I'm off to the dump again tomorrow with hopes of better luck. Later...
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   RE:RE: Landfill Day One posted by JONathan on 5/10/2006 at 2:08:57 AM
One contributory factor to the phenomenon is rooted in the concept of repairing something, or maybe more precisely, something that is worth repairing. This takes both a skill and the time to apply the skill. Personally, I find it rewarding to spend a few hours working on something worth restoring, like a VLW. Unfortunately for me, I have to budget the time. Today, for instance, I spent my evening working up a beautiful brass and glass chandelier that needed just some cleaning and rewiring. So, my FUJI "Sport 12" is still on the blocks.
No fancy tools, no complex problems, some skill (or willingness to give it a go) and the results are great to behold. Keep up the great work! Things have dried up around here for VLW's. When I go to landfill, I just want to get out in tact, with no flats. You're lucky.
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   RE:RE:RE: Landfill Day One posted by Randy on 5/10/2006 at 11:41:01 AM
Some good intuitive ideas Jonathan. Perhaps I can add an idea of my own. Our society is driven by people who get paid to tell us how to think and what to do. The multi-billion dollar advertising industry is the vehicle that tends to drive our opinions(you can, in my humble opinion, include the news media in this picture). When we were told that lighter roadsters were better than balloon tire bicycles, we bought in. When we were told that lightweight road bicycles were better, we bought in. Then, of course, the Mountain bicycle was, according to the advertisers, the only way to go. Now, it looks like roadsters and balloon tire bicycle are the NEW way to go... Don't get me going!

Noel Chomsky, author of "Marketing Consent", focuses on this notion and does a good job of it. We are sheep, living in heards and we tend to do what the head sheep wants us to do. So it is no wonder that we have become an "out of control, throw away" society. It is so much easier to allow others to do our thinking for us. Consumers! We are heading in a dangerous direction, in my opinion. But at least I will get there faster on my road bicycle than the other guys riding roadsters and balloon tires bikes.
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   advertising and fashion posted by John E on 5/10/2006 at 2:28:03 PM
I am immune to fashion trends, as I think are most of my fellow vintage bicycle fans. At age 12, as soon as I mastered my first bicycle, with its 2-speed Bendix hub, fat 26" tires, and Schwinn cantilever frame, I wanted a 10-speed road bike to tackle the local hills. At age 13 I received my second bicycle, a Bianchi 10-speed. What do I ride today? A fat-tired Schwinn [top-of-the-line old school mountain bike], a Bianchi road bike, and various other road bikes from 1959 through 1980. The more things change, the more they stay the same. :)

When I complained to a VW salesman that the new models no longer carried my 2001 Passat's 10-year powertrain warranty, he told me I should be leasing a new car every 3 to 5 years, instead of stupidly keeping my cars an average of 15 years. Yeah, sure!
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   RE:RE:RE: Landfill Day One posted by Randy on 5/11/2006 at 2:20:26 AM
Landfill Update - Day Three: Yep, lots of rain again but this was a better day for collecting vintage bikes. A Flandria and a Favorite showed up. Neither bicycle was worth keeping, in my opinion, but some of the components proved worth while. Twenty eight bicycles arrived, that I am aware of, but most were mountain bicycles. There were a few vintage roadsters but, once again, not worth my while. I did find three sets of Weinmann alloy rims: one set without eyelets, one set with eyelets and then my personal holy grail, a concave set with eyelets(I love these rims). All three sets are now hanging in the shed waiting for just the right bicycle to put them on. The one and only bicycle that I brought home from the dump today was a mid seventies Nishiki "Custom Sport" in a nice baby blue color. The Nishiki is nothing special but it is in extremely good condition and it did save me from getting skunked. It is in perfect working order and I took it for a short and wet ride just to see if all was well.

I always make a point out of talking to virtually every one I meet about my hobby of collecting vintage lightweight bicycles. Today brought two contacts that I intend to follow through on but did not have enough time to do so this evening(had to fix a really screwed up wheel for a fellow with an old Cannondale).

Though this has nothing to do with vintage bicycles, something truly note worthy happened to me today. About two miles from the landfill site entrance, a cougar or mountain lion crossed the path on my Ranger 4x4. I was truly impressed. Gotta get a bit of rest since Day Four at the Dump starts in about ten hours. Yahoo!!!
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Landfill Day One posted by Bryan on 5/11/2006 at 10:00:25 PM
I know it sounds weird, but I've looked forward to your reports each day from the dump! I share your excitement over what the next treasure might be. Lets hope that cougar is a good omen. Keep on reporting.
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Landfill Day One posted by JONathan on 5/12/2006 at 4:40:13 AM
Nothing like our dump. Mostly seagulls and bulldozers. Man the smell and broken glass is enough to keep my visits short. If there is anything worth pulling, the crew of workers must yank it from the pile before it goes up into the giant conveyor or it gets worked into a massive heap by the dozers. There is not much chance of a frame making back to daylight from all that going on. The nextdoor city has a dump where items worth using are culled, before going to the fill. That makes sense, as it gives someone a chance to recycle functional items. I wonder how much fuel it takes to build a bike frame from scratch (raw material base)? You are lucky to have such a dump. Do you get hassled going through the stuff?
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   Landfill Day One posted by John E on 5/12/2006 at 2:25:46 PM
In the US, which is occasionally even more of a nanny-state than our esteemed neighbor to the north, the public is forbidden from scavenging in landfills. If I were the benevolent dictator, I would establish, at the entrance to each landfill, an informal dropoff / free swap meet zone for goods which are still useful to someone.
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   RE:Landfill Day One posted by Randy on 5/12/2006 at 5:05:42 PM
LANDFILL UPDATE - DAY FOUR: Another rainy day that not only got worse it turned into one miserable day. Hydro lines down, all over the place, due to very high winds(later in the day) resulting in many people being without power for several hours. Never the less, the dump proved, once again, to be my friend.

Of the twenty eight bicycles that I counted, two came home with me and four went to a friend who rebuilds/sells mountain bikes. I was lucky enough to get a very nice Raleigh "Superbe", in all but superbe condition(slightly damaged from rim, for which I already have a spare). I also found another Nishiki, but this one is a bit of a gem(pantographed frame, chrome moly butted tubing, quick release alloy wheels, drilled crank set, aero brakes and a Suntour "Competition" transmission. The Nishiki is in very good condition and I will give is a thorough rebuild before putting it up for sale. I think that it even has a straight block alloy freewheel but have not put a magnet to it yet, so I am not sure. I also scored a very nice mountain bicycle that did not even make it to my truck. A fellow saw me scoop it, offered me ten bucks, then twenty and finally fifty dollars for the bicycle. At fifty dollars, how could I say no?

Another fellow needed help removing the liscense plate from his trailer. I gave him a hand(I always have a set of tools with me) and he returned the favor by signing the ownerships for the trailer and giveing it to me. I have no need for a trailer and passed it on for free to another "Picker"(that's what scavengers are called in Thunder Bay).

On the way to the dump, first thing in the morning, I came upon two moose, stopped to observe for a few minutes and finally, remembering that I had my digital camera with me, took a couple of pictures.

Scavenging, or as we call it in Thunder Bay "Picking", is indeed against the law. That said, the manager of the landfill site is not a dumb fellow and he turns a blind eye to the picking that goes on. And the amount of stuff that gets picked is astonishing! Most people simple go for the metals, which are increasing in value almost daily(45 cents a pound fo raluminium, $2.25 for copper are a couple of examples). It takes very little time to fill a 1/2 ton truck with aluminium. Some guys make a couple of loads per day during free dump week.

I just go for the bikes and help others with their disposal if the load warrents it(what a nice guy???).

That's about it for day four. Check back to see what, if anything, Friday has to offer...
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   RE:RE:Landfill Day One posted by Randy on 5/14/2006 at 12:30:17 AM
LANDFILL UPDATE - DAY FIVE: Well, after last night's near hurricane the dump was a mess and few patrons attended. If it hadn't been for a nice leather saddle, I would have got skunked(found nothing). I did get a few mountain bicycles for a friend but only a few. Tomorrow is Saturday and I am hoping for better weather and better luck.
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   RE:RE:RE: Landfill Day One posted by Chris on 5/14/2006 at 7:01:03 PM
Hi, all. Please excuse my butting in, but I have a Fuji Sport 12 in my garage as well and was wondering what it might be worth? My son wants a new mountain bike and I was thinking of trading the Fuji, but I have no idea what a fair trade in value would be. Thanks much.

- Chris
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AGE / VALUE:   To Spike and John E posted by: Richard Garrett on 5/8/2006 at 9:54:30 AM
Thanks
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AGE / VALUE:   Shimano Freewheel Crankset posted by: john on 5/7/2006 at 10:35:13 PM
Recent curbside find...Schwinn World Tourist made in China for Schwinn Bicycle Company. Other than dirt/dust, looks to be in perfect cond. I always clean/repack bearings before I do anything with a bike, but this one has a Shimano free wheeling crank set. I have NO experience with this and was looking for some howto advice or a website with info. Thanks. john
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shimano Freewheel Crankset posted by John Metz on 5/8/2006 at 11:05:54 AM
Check out www.sheldonbrown.com . Mr. Brown is an expert bike mechanic at Harris Cyclery in Boston Mass. and his
WEB site is excellent!

Cycle on!
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AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by: richard garrett on 5/7/2006 at 8:04:36 PM
Any one know aney thing on an english ladys bike a very nice blue (Robin Hood) a freebe out of a basement yestreday in real nice condishtion.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by Spike on 5/8/2006 at 1:05:43 AM
I have the same bike,also in blue.Most likely Yours was built in the Raleigh factory and will appear similar to a Raleigh with some slightly different usually less expensive parts.
If you have the Sturmey Archer 3 speed rear hub there should be a date stamped on it.Assuming this is the original hub it can date your bike.
Assuming the original pedals; reflectors appeared on pedals around 1970.This should be a nice riding bike with a feel similar to that of the well respected Raleighs of the day.

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