AGE / VALUE:   Holdsworth help on dating and model posted by: ronp6 on 11/4/2007 at 1:48:09 PM
I just bought a Holdsworth that was suposed to be a Mistral but is all Reynolds 531 double butted tubes, forks and stays which the Mistral was not. It was suposed to be an early 80's but I think it might be a litle earlier. I have tried to date the all Campy NR components but the indicators are inconsistent. I have serial numbers if someone has been hiding a database. The frame is silver with white transfers and no name on the top tube.

Any help would be appreciated.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Holdsworth help on dating and model posted by ronp6 on 11/5/2007 at 6:45:12 AM
The bike turned out to be a fairly rare 1982 Holdsworth Nuovo Record that was sold as a frameset including headset only. I am lucky that the buyer outfitted it with all Nuovo record components.
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    Holdsworth help on dating and model posted by John E on 11/6/2007 at 3:25:08 PM
Nice find!
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Holdsworth help on dating and model posted by ronp6 on 11/7/2007 at 8:53:22 AM
Thanks John. It has a cosmetic dent in the top tube that I was able to mostly remove and it needs a front tubular wheel or more likely a set of wheels. It is the project right behind my Raleigh International buildup.

I was surprised Sheldon Brown seemed to have aless than enthusiastic opinion of them. I was quite impressed by the bike!
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   Holdsworth posted by John E on 11/8/2007 at 3:44:45 PM
Sheldon doesn't seem that negative on them -- he even says he is still looking for one in good condition. :)

I remember speculating whether Charlie Harding's "Harding" brand bikes were actually made by Holdsworth, rather than by his Irish brother, as some customers were evidently told.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Holdsworth help on dating and model posted by ronp6 on 11/11/2007 at 5:37:47 PM
It has a corncob for a freewheel. Does anyone know the largest cog the range of gears a Nuovo Record can handle?

It is a little hilly here for a 21 as a largest or maybe my legs have just gotten too old for it. Ron
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Holdsworth help on dating and model posted by Jack Anderson on 11/13/2007 at 9:29:07 AM
The NR rear d. on my International is handling a 28, which I think is close to the limit. I came down to a 41 (TA) for my smaller front chain ring. With 28 mm tires on 27" rims, it's okay on all but really steep hills.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Holdsworth help on dating and model posted by ronp6 on 11/14/2007 at 6:23:47 PM
Thanks Jack. A 28 should make a big difference. My professional has a long cage Crane and an enormous low gear on the freewheel. I have the original derailleur that was taken off when the bike was delivered. I should try a 28 and reunite the NR with the bike and see how it feels. The existing setup weighs a ton.
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AGE / VALUE:   1985 Murray Dr Pepper 10 speed lightweight posted by: James Browning on 11/3/2007 at 3:43:45 PM
I have a 1985 Murray Dr Pepper 10 speed lightweight bike that is still in the box. (My grandmother won it for me in a contest, and I never opened it.) I recently got serious about cycling, and I'm thinking about assembling it. I am, however, curious about the value.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1985 Murray Dr Pepper 10 speed lightweight posted by David on 11/4/2007 at 10:16:22 AM
IIRC there were some Murrays sold that were good bikes. Perhaps this is one of them. Check it out for frame construction and components. Post pictures. I'd like to know more.
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: 1985 Murray Dr Pepper 10 speed lightweight posted by Walter on 11/13/2007 at 5:20:19 PM
To go along with above: I'd be willing to bet you'll find a NOS 30+ lb dep't store bike in that box with some Dr. Pepper decals.

However, I could be wrong and it could be presentable quality.

OS boxes are cool by definition, no matter the result...
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AGE / VALUE:   Pagnini Montreal- any info?!? posted by: Josh Wallace on 11/1/2007 at 3:47:17 PM
Hi,

Does anyone have any information at all on the Pagnini Montreal and/or the company history? I believe it's c. 1986 but I'm not sure. There is zero info on the web. Many thanks!

-Josh
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   RE:AGE / VALUE: Pagnini Montreal- any info?!? posted by Warren on 11/1/2007 at 7:51:54 PM
Marinoni used to rebrand bikes for dealers and shops, especially in Quebec. I have a Gianella, after the shop of the same name in Dollard des Ormeaux. Columbus tubing? Pics of the lugs may help. Components?
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   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Pagnini Montreal- any info?!? posted by Josh on 11/2/2007 at 12:05:03 AM
Thanks for your response/ Unfortunately I don't have my pix on a website- not sure how to cut and paste to this list, if that's even an option. This I can tell you: It is Columbus. It has very ornate steel lugs with the word Montreal in panographed into the crown of the fork.It has a tasteful yet strikingly complex paint job. It is a frame only- never built up. I believe it has spent its whole life in Capello Italy, I just bought it from there.
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FOR SALE:   25 1/2" Supercourse- Too big for me and I'm not growing taller posted by: ronp6 on 10/31/2007 at 5:07:58 PM
I haven't gotten too deep into it yet but I just acquired a very large 1972 Super Course that is a little scratched up and missing the Huret derailleurs and Brooks but seems otherwise intact. It is bronze green. Anyone near Boston have a butted Mixte with upright bars they would like to trade? If not it will likely be taken apart for other projects.
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WANTED:   wtb a small road bike posted by: veronica on 10/31/2007 at 12:05:47 PM
Hi!
I'm seeking a small (about 48cm) light weight road bicycle. I am about 5'3'' and living in Portland, OR-- know about anything available?

Thanks,
V
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   RE:WANTED: wtb a small road bike posted by jaqck on 11/10/2007 at 11:55:59 PM
Although not as common, sub-50cm bikes should appear on your local Craigs List though prob not last. This and used bike shops best bet as shipping has become prohibitive. Last weekend was a local 46cm with appropriate 24" wheels.
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