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Archived: Musclebikes (Sting-Rays, Krates, Choppers, etc.)







AGE / VALUE:   Stingray Info Needed! posted by: Jim on 8/13/2000 at 7:29:07 PM
I was prepping a 1966 Boys Stingray frame for painting and noticed the number 4 stamped on the underside of the two lower bars of the frame leading to the rear wheel connection point. Heck, I even confused myself with that description... Anyway if anyone understood that rambling description and knows what the 4 stands for it would be most helpful.

Thanks,
Jim







AGE / VALUE:   For Sale: 16 X 2.125 Goodyear blackwall posted by: ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 8/13/2000 at 12:39:26 PM
1 tire for sale: Goodyear blackwall tire 16 X 2 .125 never used. What it went on is your guess! I think a replacement for a Stingray rear? This is not a slick. 15.00 plus shipping http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   For Sale: 16 X 2.125 Goodyear blackwall posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/17/2000 at 3:32:12 PM
Tire has been sold






AGE / VALUE:   Fastback Slik posted by: Scott on 8/12/2000 at 8:25:45 AM
I just bought what I thought was a NOS rear Schwinn StingRay Slik off Ebay for my 69 Fastback, when I got it yes it was a very nice NOS Schwinn StingRay Slik size 20 x 1-3/4" but it does not fit over the Fastback rim. The old tire says rim size S-5 to S-6. The new tire says S-7. What did I really buy? The guy is cool and I can return it no problem, but I am courious why it will not fit a 20 x 1-3/8" wheel (it is too small ID) and won't fit a Krate wheel either, too large ID. HELP! Thanks Scott


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Fastback Slik posted by Kevin C. on 8/12/2000 at 4:43:48 PM
Fastbacks had lightweight tires; Slik on rear, normal ribbed tread on front. Other Sting-Ray tires are larger and won't interchange.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Fastback Slik posted by A. Biker on 8/12/2000 at 8:06:09 PM
Scott,
Sounds like what you bought was a Gripper Slik, correct for a Stingray Junior or a Fairlady. (These have the S-7 rear rim). The regular Stingray has a rear S-2.
What you need is the Fastback Slik which fits an S-5 or S-6. The S-5 has a raised center where the spokes are, the S-6 is flat in that area (both rims are for Fastbacks, Schwinn just changed the styles around 1973). Both use the Fastback Slik.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Fastback Slik posted by JUAN on 8/14/2000 at 7:20:33 PM
I THINK YOUR 69 FASTBACK NEEDS 3/4 INCH TIRES I BELEIVE THATS THE SIZE TIRES MY 69 FAST BACK HAS THEY'RE MUCH SMALLER THAN THE TIRES ON MY STINGRAYS






WANTED:   1965 Stingray Parts S/N CAxxxxx posted by: Ron Humphrey on 8/12/2000 at 12:23:06 AM
I am looking for the following parts for a deluxe stingray. Seat,reflector and chrome rail, petals, white wall slick and front tires. If you have any sugestions, please offer them. I would like to bring the bike back to as correct as possible shape, but do not want to sink a mint into it. Also if you have any idea what the bike is worth, I would be interested. The current condition is original with the exception of the seat and petals. The tires are still on the bike but are worn very badly and cracked with age.


   RE:WANTED:   1965 Stingray Parts S/N CAxxxxx posted by Kevin C. on 8/12/2000 at 4:39:46 PM
1965 Sting-Rays had the Persons high-loop sissy bar with three height-adjustment holes for the rear axle. I believe that the Deluxe had a whitewall knobby, not a whitewall Slik.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   1965 Stingray Parts S/N CAxxxxx posted by JUAN on 8/14/2000 at 7:22:56 PM
65 STINGRAYS HAVE SLICK TOO DEPENDS ON THE MODEL DELUXES HAVE REGULAR TIRES






AGE / VALUE:   MINI TWIN posted by: JAMES on 8/11/2000 at 10:49:14 PM
i picked up a mini twin in good shape today for almost nothing. can someone tell me anything about it (in general). it has the w/wall slick on the rear, but is missing the w/wall on the front. the rest of the parts are there(thank god). were can i find the white wall tires like the ones that came on it?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   MINI TWIN posted by JUAN on 8/14/2000 at 7:26:09 PM
I'M NOT SURE BUT ARE YOU INTERESTED IN SELLING IT OR KNOW WERE TO FIND ANOTHER MINI TWIN ITHINK THAT WOULD BE A FUN PROJECT






MISC:   333 ?? posted by: Adam on 8/11/2000 at 9:39:06 AM
I picked up a bike yesterday, a 20" (tire), girl's frame Montgomery Wards "Open Road" (made in Portugal). I'm assuming it's a 1976 due to all the red, white & blue decals and seat (cool seat, BTW)! It's a three speed with hand brakes and a twist grip shifter.
My question is regarding the three speed hub... it says "333" with a small SA next to it (Sturmey Archer, I assume). No date stamped on it. Seems like I've seen the 333 stamped on many "off brand" bike parts over the last year and a half; just wondering if anyone knows a little history about the company. Is it actually a company name or whatever.
Basically I'm not really excited about the bike so much, but I am curious as to whatever other bikes used these parts, and I'm assuming you don't just toss a three speed 20" wheel! The thought of converting one of my coaster Huffys into a three speed is kind of interesting, but usually I like to stick to original stuff. Any input would be appreciated, thanks!


   RE:MISC:   333 ?? posted by christian on 8/11/2000 at 10:15:33 AM
i have seen 333 parts of off everything from old hawthorne
26" lightweights to rollfast muscle bikes. even my off-brand muscle bike
called "the conqueror" (which i still have no idea who made)
has an all original three speed stick shift w/the "333" logo.
as far as temptation goes, i have converted three of my muscle bikes to
3-speed twist grips using these parts but i only do it to bikes that i feel are
to far gone to restore or salvage. one of them is a custom lowrider.
coming from experience, that shifter sure makes for a cool and comfy ride.

   RE:MISC:   333 ?? posted by Ray on 8/14/2000 at 2:19:34 PM
I believe you will find that the 333 designation belongs to early Shimano products. I also have many components with this logo and some still in original packagaing and it says Shimano on the packaging.






AGE / VALUE:   green Ray posted by: Larry on 8/11/2000 at 7:06:48 AM
I just aquired a Stingray 2 speed kick back. All original. How much is it worth ?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   green Ray posted by A. Biker on 8/11/2000 at 7:39:42 AM
No offense, but anyone would need a lot more info than that to put a value on the bike. The two speed will make it worth more, but here's some other factors:
Paint- Clean? Original? Repainted? Chips are okay but how much/how bad?
Chrome- (Same as above but replace 'chips' with 'dings'). Condition of the rims and that back hub will be important also.
Tires- Original counts.
Seat- A big factor in value. Rips, cracks, etc will affect the over-all value.
Chainguard- Straight? Dented? Can you read the silkscreen?
Frame- Full-size Stingray or a Junior with a swapped rear wheel? (It happens)!
Last but not least, the first two letters of the serial number (to establish a build date) would be interesting.



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   green Ray posted by PAUL on 8/11/2000 at 1:54:24 PM
YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT,A BIKER.A LITTLE INFO WOULD HELP ALOT.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   green Ray posted by Jim on 8/13/2000 at 7:43:50 PM
Hmmm... I just noticed you said green Ray.

Color and condition are now extremely important. If it a Lime Green in good shape and original, I shudder to think what the bike could sell for on Ebay.

I agree with the other guys. We need more info and a picture would really be helpful!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   green Ray posted by JUAN on 8/14/2000 at 7:31:00 PM
YOU CAN ALSO FIND THE YEAR OF YOUR BIKE BY TAKING OFF THE CRANK ANT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PEDALS YOU KNOW
IF IT'S IN GOOD CONDITION AND BETWEEN 1965-1968 IT'S ABOUT $750-1200






FOR SALE:   brown glitter chubbies posted by: christian on 8/10/2000 at 10:06:04 PM
are the coppertone stingray grips dark drown or light copper?
i don't remember right now but either way i stumbled across
two sets of the dark brown glitter chubbies today. all n.o.s.
i don't need them and i don't want to make a profit off of them.
just want to help the hobbie. if you need them, call me and i will tell you what i paid for them
and what you need to do to make them yours. i also have access to one and one only n.o.s.
red glitter krate grip and one white one.i will only get them if someone needs them otherwise i
don't really care. on the other hand, i have access to three sets of n.o.s.
handlebars. once again i don't care about profit but they are not "giving" them away either.
two of them are "wald" wide bars, and one of them is a schwinn in the wrapping.
i also need to know, did the original sissy bars come in a "sewed up"
style original package because the ones i am looking at are supposed to be from the
70's and are n.o.s. can also get n.o.s. new departure 3-speed rear hubs with the chain
linkage. and i can get 60's to 70's single speed bendix n.o.s. rear hubs.
like i said, i am opposed to the price hikes and only want what this place
wants for price plus shipping but keep in mind that they are not stupid but are also not on the
"bike bandwagon"! e-mail me or call me at 1-218-778-0075
please do not be dissapointed if i can't get what you want because
i have already e-mailed a few other collectors about this.
thanx and have a GREAT weekend!, christian


   RE:FOR SALE:   brown glitter chubbies posted by Jim on 8/13/2000 at 7:39:50 PM
Cool!

I like your style. Maybe this will catch on. Please let us know what else you run across!

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   brown glitter chubbies posted by christian on 8/14/2000 at 1:05:02 PM
thanx jim. she still hasn't given me a straight answer on
prices but it sounds like the handlebars will be around
$25.00 a shot. the hubs will probably be around $15.00.
pretty fair prices for n.o.s. stuff. i just wish it was all categorized
so i knew exactly what it was all from. i'm gonna get the stuff anyways
in case i ever need it.






FOR SALE:   1972 Schwin Sting Ray Fair Lady posted by: Paul on 8/10/2000 at 9:01:39 AM
Can someone let me know the approx value of a 1972 Schwin Sting Ray Fair Lady. Recently found bike in great condition, tires great, seats a little faded, bike is a just little dirty.


   RE:FOR SALE:   1972 Schwin Sting Ray Fair Lady posted by Jim on 8/13/2000 at 7:50:34 PM
Hi Paul,

On that insane place known as Ebay, they typically go for under $75. But you never know! The most I've paid for one was $45 plus shipping.

It is still a treasure in my book!

Good Luck!






MISC:   1966 J38-4 Stingray posted by: Kim on 8/9/2000 at 10:35:18 PM
If any of you folks know what 3 speed rear hub was used on 66 Schwinn Stingray. All I have is a Schwinn p/n 4225-ca or IBM p/n 85139. But this does not tell me who the hub Mfg.is.

Thanks
Kim


   RE:MISC:   1966 J38-4 Stingray posted by Jay on 8/10/2000 at 6:43:48 AM
Someone who has the "Collectible Sting" book can tell you.

   RE:MISC:   1966 J38-4 Stingray posted by Kim on 8/11/2000 at 9:11:37 PM
Thanks to all of you who sent me e-mails, iy really helped.
Kim






AGE / VALUE:   i 10 i need info posted by: TIM on 8/9/2000 at 10:20:15 AM
hi im tim i love old bikes i have a red huffy 3 speed w/ flames on banna seat an AMF roadmaster debutant 3 speed green schwinn sting ray star dust please email w/ info thanks







MISC:   THIS WEEKEND! 4th Annual Larz Anderson National Bike Show and Swap posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 8/8/2000 at 5:59:50 AM
THIS WEEKEND!!!!
Everything from Antique and Vintage Bicycles to the latest hi-tech creations.
This year's theme: "American Frame Builders"

Bike Show/Concour
Peoples Choice Awards for the entrant in each of these categories:
Each category will be devided into both restored and unrestored in most cases.

Antique bicycles
Balloon tire bicycles Crate bikes
Pre-war track racers
Vintage lightweights
Custom models
High tech
Krate bikes (musclebikes)

August 13, 2000
Brookline, Mass.







WANTED:   MURRAY ELIMINATOR --------WANTED posted by: raymond on 8/6/2000 at 12:32:23 PM
do you have a MURRAY ELIMINATOR for sale ?? write to me at ( kent@prtc.net ) or any muscle bike ?? ROSS,ROLLFAST,KENT; ETC... kent@prtc.net







WANTED:   5 speed rim posted by: christian on 8/4/2000 at 11:57:12 PM
i need a 5 speed rear rim for my 1976 stingray. i would like it to be
correct and in good cond. will trade if i have what you need. please e-mail me. thanx, christian


   RE:WANTED:   5 speed rim posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 8/5/2000 at 2:23:02 PM
I have a rim for this not a complete wheel. Http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com

   RE:RE:WANTED:   5 speed rim posted by christian on 8/5/2000 at 7:21:33 PM
well, actually i need the completed rim, ready to go.
prefer with a correct tire or cool slick attached.
if you got one, please give me an e-mail. thanx, christian

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   5 speed rim posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 8/6/2000 at 10:54:04 AM
I do not have the correct tire or a slick just a old, used, wheel with rust that can be cleaned up.






WANTED:   streamers posted by: Darryl Lawrence on 8/4/2000 at 10:30:18 PM
where can I find a glitter red set cheap?!!?!

thank you.


   RE:WANTED:   streamers posted by Jim on 8/14/2000 at 3:19:59 PM
Tell us what cheap is and we may be able to help you out. You can email me if you like. I have one of the Krate style seats and have access to other Schwinn Red Glitter seats.