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Archived: Musclebikes (Sting-Rays, Krates, Choppers, etc.)







WANTED:   KRATE BIKES posted by: JIMMY on 9/14/2000 at 3:34:18 PM
Im wanting to restore an old krate bike but i cant find one priced where i think it wouldnt cost more than buying one in good shape (no fun) If any one can help please email, Thanks, Jimmy


   Don't hold your breathe posted by X-Factor on 9/16/2000 at 6:38:38 PM
Its a fact of life that almost everyone out there knows that krates are worth a lot of money. Expecting to find a collector willing to part with a decent krate is silly. You need to concentrate on garage sales, estate sales, and rummage sales more. Those are you only lines of salvation.

   Don't hold your breathe posted by X-Factor on 9/16/2000 at 6:39:35 PM
Its a fact of life that almost everyone out there knows that krates are worth a lot of money. Expecting to find a collector willing to part with a decent krate is silly. You need to concentrate on garage sales, estate sales, and rummage sales more. Those are you only lines of salvation.

   Keep looking posted by Christopherrobin@starmail.com on 9/17/2000 at 11:44:35 AM
Keep looking consistently at garage, estate sales, flea markets, ask around looking for old bikes. You willhave to sift through a lot of junk before you find the diamond in the junk pile. But the diamond is there somewhere. do not give up!

   RE:Keep looking posted by Rif Addams on 9/19/2000 at 4:20:07 AM
He's right.
I just recently found what I consider to be one of the greatest treasures of my time (most of you Krate people will scoff at this but I don't care, I'm used to that)
I was digging through a friend of mines scrap heap. No exagerating this thing is as tall as his single story house! But I found a diamond! I stood upon the tippy-top of this scrap pile dancing my happy dance and shouting.
I found an old ('77-'78) Huffy 'Star Force' muscle knock off.
This is doubly exciting to me as I am a HUGE Star Wars geek as well as bike collector. Of course it needs a lot of work, but it's all there and really not in too bad of shape.
You just have to be willing to search, and dig and be patient. Enjoy the quest, as that is almost more exciting than the actual bike itself.
Keep on keepin on,
Rif






FOR SALE:   Bright/Shiny Krate Mag 5 Spd Sprocket posted by: Tom G. on 9/13/2000 at 4:18:20 PM
`I put this beautiful 5 speed Schwinn Krate Mag Sprocket
on ebay twice and nobody bid on it. Will sell it for $45
or best offer over that amount. (can e-mail a pic)


   RE:FOR SALE:   Bright/Shiny Krate Mag 5 Spd Sprocket posted by Gary Main on 9/29/2000 at 6:32:25 PM
i have 5 older schwinns here with that same type sprocket.
send me 35 dollars each, and make yourself ten dollars






FOR SALE:   Delta Rocket Ray Horn NOS Mint posted by: Tom G on 9/13/2000 at 4:13:19 PM
I have a white and chrome Delta Rocket Ray Horn to match
the Rocket Ray Light. It has its own button and can mount
anywhere you like. It is exactly the same as the Rocket
Ray Light, only where the lens would be is the horn,
covered over by chrome louvers. It is in mint condition
and never been sold. $30 or best offer over that amount.
(can e-mail you a pic)







AGE / VALUE:   Western Union Delivery Bike posted by: Ron on 9/12/2000 at 10:53:41 PM
My friend has a bike which was rescued from a Western Union telegraph office. It has the Western Union head badge and WOODEN hand grips. He thinks it's a Western Flyer dating from the early 40's, but neither of us knows much about old bikes. Unfortunately, it's been brush painted. You can see a picture at http://members.aol.com/gifron/westernunion.jpg or http://members.aol.com/gifron/westernunion.bmp. Is this bike in this condition of much value? About how much would it cost to restore? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanx.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western Union Delivery Bike posted by Joel on 9/13/2000 at 11:06:43 AM
It looks like a 28" Motorbike from around the early to mid 30s. Lot's of companies made this style of bike and sometimes it's hard to identify the maker. The best clue would probably be the sprocket (can't see it in the photo) and rear carrier. A picture from the other side might help. Also, is there any other info on the name badge?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western Union Delivery Bike posted by Joel on 9/14/2000 at 6:46:50 AM
Take a look at www.ebay.com item # 432411949. Is that it?






MISC:   INFO...PLEASE?! posted by: Chuck on 9/12/2000 at 8:21:23 PM
I recently found a '72 Cotton Picker That needs restoration. I need any info anyone may have on these bikes. Color, decals, I need a shifter, various other parts and info. I believe it was white/w black stripe. Did these come w/ fat tires? Help! HELP! HELP!!


   RE:MISC:   INFO...PLEASE?! posted by Kim on 9/13/2000 at 10:32:51 PM
Chuck, I think they stopped making Cotton Picker's in 1971. You can get the paint and decals from Hyper Rays in AZ If you need more information just e-mail me off line at raceduc@pacbell.net

Kim






AGE / VALUE:   1972 schwinn stingray 5 speed posted by: jerry harlow on 9/12/2000 at 4:19:34 PM
I'm not one hundred percent sure of the year of this bike, but I just was trying to find out an approximate value so i can sell it. It seem to have all original equipment, including tires. If any one has some info I sure would appreciate it. Thanks.







AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer mystery bike posted by: Scott on 9/10/2000 at 4:34:38 PM
my son and I found a western flyer krate copy the other day--it has a springer fork, and a plastic gas tank and moto-cross type fenders--pedals have reflecters, so I assume it at least a 72 model-bike was black, tank is black, and fenders are yellow---any one know anything about it?

thanks and good riding

Scott


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer mystery bike posted by scoot on 9/10/2000 at 5:17:59 PM
I just cleaned the fron badge, which is a sticker--It is not a western flyer, but an Otasco "Flying O" bike. I barely remember otasco, but the rest is still a mystery.

Scott






AGE / VALUE:   Campus Green Fast back 5 speed posted by: Dan on 9/10/2000 at 8:59:22 AM
I just purchaced a stingray fastback that has all the orignal parts! I love it. It is exactly what I had for my first bike. I am curious the age. Its serial #is kf33596. If anone can tell me it's age I would appricate it. Also It is a 5 speed with a stick shift and seems to have all the orignal parts and is in decent condition, was $150 a good buy???? Thanks Dan


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Campus Green Fast back 5 speed posted by scott or scoot as friends call me on 9/10/2000 at 5:21:31 PM
it was made november of 1970.It was a good deal if you wanted it and could afford it, but will not bring much more money than 200-250 dollars

good riding

Scoot






WANTED:   I Buy project Stinrays and Crates posted by: Larry on 9/10/2000 at 7:04:22 AM
I restore Stingrays and crates and am always looking for stingrays Crates and cruisers for parts and restoation. I will buy in any condition for the right price.


   RE:WANTED:   I Buy project Stinrays and Crates posted by Luke Shook on 9/17/2000 at 6:40:50 AM
I found a Schwinn "midget" stingray. I'm not an expert on vintage bikes; I was hoping you could clue me in on it's history, rareity, and value. I'm not planning on selling it yet. It's a copper color with a white "banana" seat. It has bolt on training wheels and a horn, although I doubt they are original. The chainguard reads "Schwinn Midget stingray", and it is pretty small. It's in good condition with the exception to some minor rust which I plan to clean off. I could not locate a serial # anywhere. Any help you give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance-Luke






WANTED:   WANTED 20 X 16 MUSCLE BIKES posted by: John on 9/9/2000 at 8:08:34 PM
LooKING FOR Huffy Kool kat , or sears gremlin , also Rollfast top drag, and rollfast sparker, if anyone can help please email me.

Thanks

JOHN


   RE:WANTED:   WANTED 20 X 16 MUSCLE BIKES posted by scott on 9/10/2000 at 4:26:21 PM
there is a real nice sears gremlin on ebay right now--price was around 60.00--type in schwinn krate and click the search description--then newly listed items firts--I had one as a kid, but all I do now is krates and sting rays

   RE:WANTED:   WANTED 20 X 16 MUSCLE BIKES posted by Robert on 9/11/2000 at 4:43:13 AM
I'm in the process of repainting my 69' kool kat, a Mustard yellow metallic paint. Since I can't seem too find the exact color I'm finding the best match. Good luck in finding one. I believe they only made them for 3 years. A friend of mine has found random parts but not whole bikes.






AGE / VALUE:   1971 Schwinn Manta Ray posted by: Mike on 9/9/2000 at 4:48:27 PM
Can someone give me an approximate value of a 1971 Schwinn Mnta Ray? It's a 5 speed, color is green, gold and white. Condition is excellent. Also would like other sources of information about this particular model.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1971 Schwinn Manta Ray posted by Bikevato on 9/12/2000 at 12:13:38 PM
I bought a '71 Manta-ray for $350 with NOS tires. Manta-ray's run from $300 to $500 dollars.






AGE / VALUE:   schwinn sting-ray hurricane 5 speed posted by: pam rawlins on 9/9/2000 at 9:32:36 AM
Hello , I just found a schwinn sting-ray hurricane 5 speed blue bike in very nice condition at a garage sale,. It has an owners manuel attached . I have no idea if it has any value, can anyone let me know? Me 8 year old son is who i purchased it for, He went nuts over it, they just dont make bikes like this anymore.If anyone has any info please email me and let me know.







AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Junior Stingray posted by: Gary Main on 9/9/2000 at 9:09:04 AM
i just picked up a Junior Stingray. Either the number charts for schwinn on this page are totally wrong, or this original bike that says schwinn on it in 3 places has the wrong serial number. This makes the 3rd schwinn that is like this, so i suspect those number system tables are junk.
the ser num is EA3xxxx has a 1970 resistration, and if you turn the letters around to fit the tables its a 69 model.
anyway, i like it, does anyone know why a 20 in stingray with all the usual stingray stuff would be called a junior?
tall sissy bar, wide handlebars, full size seat. could these have been added later to replace small bars, etc?
thanks Cya Gary


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Junior Stingray posted by Gary Main on 9/9/2000 at 10:14:41 AM
BTW why does this bike have white painted rims with black pinstripes? Both are S7 and the front is still the original schwinn westwind RWL blackwall, some jap s7 on the back. every pic i see has chrome rims. And my old Girls Hollywood 20 in has the same wheels

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Junior Stingray posted by racerrex on 9/11/2000 at 6:36:56 AM
The charts are right but you can't turn the #'s about to fit a registration sticker. I have a jr.(FL5xxxxx)which translates to a '75(skip "I" and "o"). I believe I read that jrs were first produced in '65 which is what your # would be. It should have the smaller handlebars but I think most of the rest is the same. Maybe not the wide rims. Hope this helps. Where is a stingray guy when you need one?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Junior Stingray posted by Gary Main on 9/11/2000 at 9:54:38 PM
After looking at the tables, and being emailed i see that i was wrong, and the tables are correct, i was reading it wrong myself. i polished all the chrome, and trued the wheels, cleaned the rims {paint} havent touched the frame, its got lots of scratches, and its worn bare on top tube, but i dont care. i will just wash it. the neat old valvoline sticker on the seat, and the old STP sticker on the frame are staying put. the bars are correct schwinn but wrong for this bike, and i suspect the seat as well, but until i see a pic to correctly id the proper hardware its staying like it is. Any concept of what a first model JR stingray is worth?






MISC:   *****Restoration and Painting Services**** posted by: Mary Pfeiffer on 9/8/2000 at 8:10:59 PM
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For more information please contact me personally at the email address listed. References available.

Thanks,
Mary Pfeiffer


   RE:MISC:   *****Restoration and Painting Services**** posted by trek on 10/3/2000 at 6:53:12 PM
do you have a PPG paint code for a schwinn orange krate.
i have been trying to find a paint code for a long time.
by the way there is no paint on the frame so i cant color
match it.

thanks






WANTED:   1971 5 Speed Krate Shifter posted by: Randy Blatt on 9/8/2000 at 6:50:56 PM
Greetings and Salutations!
I would like to purchase a decent 1971 shifter for my Pea Picker. Please let me know if you have one you would like to sell.
Thanks
Randy