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Archived: Musclebikes (Sting-Rays, Krates, Choppers, etc.)







AGE / VALUE:   Is it rare? posted by: freddie on 11/10/2001 at 5:03:31 AM
While I am not new to muscle bikes I came across one I have never seen before.Stingrays ,Buzz bikes and a couple of dragstrippers are in my collection when today on my way home from work I saw a nice banana seat bike set out with the trash for pickup, so I stopped. It is a very nice Rollfast, purple in color with the name SKOOT on the chaingard. It is in great shape with bright paint, all the stickers and the original tires that pumped right and held air. I did not know that rollfast made a muscle bike and I cant find any in a websearch. any info would be of great help. Thanks.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is it rare? posted by christian on 11/12/2001 at 3:41:28 AM
skoots are cool bikes. i seen one on ebay recently (might still be there). i have a skat, which is the girl's version of the bike. look on ebay if you need a price idea. as for parts, many of the parts were universally used on ma ny other off-brand bikes from huffy to conqueror. have fun with it and i hope i helped a little.






WANTED:   Need Tires! ! ! posted by: Baldy Jeff on 11/10/2001 at 2:55:50 AM
Lookin for an original set of vintage Schwinn 20" w/w tires(westwind + knobby)------Cash or trades-Thanks!







MISC:   63 Stingray info needed?? posted by: Kim on 11/9/2001 at 5:28:36 PM
Anybody know what month Schwinn started making the Stingray in 1963??
Kim


   RE:MISC:   63 Stingray info needed?? posted by Andrew on 11/10/2001 at 8:56:22 PM
I've heard that it was April or May for the very first ones. They were great, pure simple Stingray, no bells, whistles, or flashy stuff! The birth of a cultural icon for childen of the 60's.

   RE:RE:MISC:   63 Stingray info needed?? posted by Doug on 11/11/2001 at 2:22:50 PM
I have a feeling the reason the first ones were plain janes is because the brass at Schwinn were not enthused with the idea and thought it would flop; however.................(footnote) Huffy actually made the very first Stingray style bike.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   63 Stingray info needed?? posted by todjob on 11/11/2001 at 3:56:27 PM
HAW HAW HAW Huffy was first schwinn stoled their idea so the origonal stingray IS a Huffy HAW HAW HAW

   RE:MISC:   63 Stingray info needed?? posted by Tim on 11/11/2001 at 5:21:35 PM
Todjob....You may want to have your grammer checked before posting, five errors in one sentence! Where are these Huffy's? A district sales manager at Huffy said in 1970..." build qaulity on our childrens bikes is sufficient that our product will last Two to thee years". In other words...Planned obsolescence! Schwinn's last for ever.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   63 Stingray info needed?? posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/11/2001 at 5:47:28 PM
There is a grain of truth here,I think. I will have to ask my pal and get back.
I think of Keith Kingbay fondly when I think of the StingRay bikes.

   RE:MISC:   63 Stingray info needed?? posted by Tim on 11/14/2001 at 1:54:05 AM
Huffy guy in a huff! Why so tense? I like all people who like old bikes, regardless of the make, maybe you should try the same.

   RE:ok Tim your turn posted by Richie Rich, Sting-Ray Collector on 11/15/2001 at 12:02:53 AM
spoken like a guy who can't afford a nice sting-ray, so he picks up junky offbrand bikes laying at the curb then tells everybody his are as good as schwinn's. yo, todjob! you can yell about it all you want, complain about it, make your snide remarks then claim you didn't say anything offensive, post as schwinn nerd and try to get the schwinn forums shut down, call them stinkrays and their collectors fanatics and jerks, you can put a seatpost up your skinny arse. none of that will change anything. sting-rays will remain the most popular vintage bike to collect, along with phantoms and old ballooners. your amatuer scrap yard will always be a scrapyard, but at least you're keeping the streets clean. now run along, toddie and let the big boys do business.

   TODJOB = SCHWINN NERD posted by THE TRUTH ABOUT TODD on 11/15/2001 at 12:14:41 AM
'nuff said.

   ok Tim your turn posted by todjob on 11/13/2001 at 1:09:16 PM
first of all I got your grammer hangin ok? now,Schwinn is a well built bicycle correct? agreed? THAT is why they are bankrupt broke and an orphan co. for years and HUFFY is the ONLY u.s. made bike co. from the 50's schwinn is like a checker car ever hear of one? they went broke in 89 why? too well built they never needed parts will your car last 40 years TIM no you know why? because they want to sell you another one same as Huffy. You stingray guys remind me of ford and chevy guys saying dodge is crap but you cant admit that dodge has MOST all the horsepower/speed records in history thats why they werent allowed in Nascar.Huffy had INVENTED a muscle bike and that irritates you stingray people tono end because you all are so proud of your jewel 63 stinkrays and I like to rub that in huffy started in 61 from what i know,so bite that!

   RE:RE:ok Tim your turn posted by todjob on 11/16/2001 at 9:58:35 AM
Big boys have email addresses

   RE:RE:RE:ok Tim your turn posted by The truth about Todd on 11/16/2001 at 11:18:28 PM
scwhinn nerd didnt use one.






MISC:   Kool ride on ebay item #1030742996 posted by: christian on 11/9/2001 at 8:29:03 AM
i put my ride up on ebay. im not asking for bids, just opinions on if ya like it or not. thanx guys, jc.


   RE:MISC:   Kool ride on ebay item #1030742996 posted by Loco Boy on 11/9/2001 at 4:23:55 PM
That aint no musclebike thats a lowrider cholomobile from east L.A.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Kool ride on ebay item #1030742996 posted by christian on 11/9/2001 at 6:38:27 PM
but i put alot of muscle into building it, so i guess that counts a little as a muscle bike!!!






AGE / VALUE:   BICYCLE SWAP MEET NOVEMBER 18th SWANSEA, MA posted by: JOE on 11/7/2001 at 4:05:51 AM
WE WILL BE HAVING OUR LAST SHOW OF THE YEAR IN SWANSEA, MA ON NOVEMBER 18TH AT THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS HALL. VENDOR SPOTS FOR THIS SHOW ARE 10.00. PLEASE EMAIL ME FOR DIRECTIONS. WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE....







AGE / VALUE:   I could scream! posted by: Jon on 11/6/2001 at 6:08:07 PM
Sears Screamer brings $1000 on ebay (#1025183576) It's true, but is it really that rare? I'm a Stingray guy so when I saw one of these at a yard sale last spring for $40 I passed!%*# I guess I'll think twice the next time I see a wild looking muscle bike for cheap money. Now I know why they call it the SCREAMER!


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   I could scream! posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/7/2001 at 12:27:29 AM
Does this mean I need to go get that rusted chaniguard with half the decals on it? It's a chainguard for a Sears Screamer hanging up. I passed over it.
These are hot right now. I heard that Hoosier's are worth a lot some up to $10,000.00 and you can get parts if yours needs one. A hoosier is a 1920's -1930's wooden kitchen cupboard thingie piece with a white porcelin top that pulls out. Go to Martha's website.
I was ahead of the game collecting these long before it became big. Samething with the "Fire King Jadeite" but that isn't so big now I hear.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   I could scream! posted by Cal on 11/7/2001 at 1:29:33 PM
Screamers are part of the "16 x 20" class of musclebikes. They have a 16" front wheel and a 20" rear. That always increases a bike's interest. Plus that one is a 5-speed stick and has the wheely brake.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   I could scream! posted by Jim Maier on 11/7/2001 at 9:21:02 PM
What would a Sears Screamer frame be worth? I've got what looks like a Screamer frame. I had just photographed the frame today. Lemon-front/Lime-rear painted. No name on front. Does have a serial number on the rear dropout. I do also have a small 16"? front wheel that might have come with this frame. This wheel had a brake assembly in it as I recall. Some surface rust on the frame but definitely restorable. These have been in my garage for 20+ years.

Jim

   Chopper age. posted by Nick Steinhardt on 11/8/2001 at 10:26:37 AM
hows it goin? WEll I live in Australia and I have a Malvern Star CHOPPER but I dont know what age it is. I got it off my grandad and it had a loy of surface rust, so i sanded it back and gave it a hot paint job. It has all original parts but its is now canary yellow with flame red flames on the frame and front and back fender and chain guard. It looks deadly. It also has a 3speed gear stick. The number of the frame is #0738154. If you know anything about it could you please contact me.

   Screamer Value posted by Mark on 11/9/2001 at 6:41:38 PM
If you really looked at that Screamer on ebay you might take note that it was an extremely clean all original bike. Sreamers are somewhat common but not in that condition. You will look long and hard to find one that's nice. Most of them are beat up with the wrong seat, scraped guard, missing handlebar tape etc.... What's harder for me to believe than a $1000 Screamer is that Krates, as common as they are, bring the money they do. Like any other collectible, a bike will only bring what somebody is willing to pay.

   RE:Screamer Value posted by todjob on 11/11/2001 at 4:03:48 PM
It happens in every collector field and ive been telling people this for years when the first popular item is too expencive you find the next best thing then IT goes up in price example stingray bikes made screamers go up in value smith miller toy trucks made tonkas go up in value 50's era muscle cars made 60's era muscle cars go up in value every one still laughs at schwinn varsitys but look what the first ones are bringing I have 4 really wierd 10 speeds rat holed sooner or later they will be the thing since no one can afford anything else one is a schwinn 8 speed.

   TODJOB = SCHWINN NERD posted by THE TRUTH ABOUT TODD on 11/15/2001 at 12:15:59 AM
'nuff said.






AGE / VALUE:   Murray Firebat Chopper parts needed. HELP! posted by: jeff hoehn on 11/6/2001 at 3:34:22 AM
I have a Murray Firebat chopper that is in great condition but its missing some parts. Can anyone tell me anything about this bike? (years of production etc...) I need to know where I can buy fenders, chain guard, crank etc...
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. a value would also be great!

Thanks,
Jeff


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murray Firebat Chopper parts needed. HELP! posted by jeff on 11/7/2001 at 2:52:34 AM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.... Anyone.....

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murray Firebat Chopper parts needed. HELP! posted by jeff on 11/7/2001 at 2:53:49 AM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.... Anyone.....

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murray Firebat Chopper parts needed. HELP! posted by Cal on 11/7/2001 at 1:32:20 PM
FireBat or FireCat?
There is a FireCat in the picture database, check it out.
It's really tough to tell a bicycle's value with so little information.






WANTED:   Sting Ray Decal posted by: Pat Guffey on 11/5/2001 at 7:28:08 PM
I am looking for a seat tube decal in white in the 68 and earlier style for a '66 I am restoring, the kind that looks like a sprocket without stars. all I've been able to find is '68 and later style, any help would be appreciated. Thanks


   RE:WANTED:   Sting Ray Decal posted by MM on 11/7/2001 at 7:26:05 PM
Log onto Hyper-formance.com Pete should have the decal you need...Good Luck






AGE / VALUE:   Chopper people, heads up! posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/4/2001 at 5:57:43 PM
E- bay item #1028170699 "Raleigh Chopper Thang"
This proves I haveen't seen it all yet. But then again, I never owned a early Chopper.
This is genuine, it just blows me away that I have never seen one until now.
Cool finishing touch!
No relation to seller, all that.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Chopper people, heads up! posted by Catfood Rob on 11/7/2001 at 8:30:03 PM
Sorry, Christopher Robin, you havent found the missing link!
All Raleigh Choppers came with a little black plastic double clip-thing which joined the brake cables in front of the ape hangers, They NEVER came with the clip shown on e-bay, that clip came on the raleigh 20 shopping bike series.
It looks a little over-sized when fitted to a Chopper... Ive seen it done, but its not right.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Chopper people, heads up! posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/7/2001 at 11:38:49 PM
You are right about this, sorry.






WANTED:   Dyno Roadster, have Swing Bike to trade posted by: Gary on 11/4/2001 at 4:16:54 PM
I am looking for a black Dyno Roadster, the 8 foot long stretched beach cruiser. I have a Swing Bike that I would be willing to trade. I've had the Swing Bike since new. It's in need of restoration, but with a new tube in back tire it could be ridden today. It's blue, original paint with normal wear, I put many many miles on this bike. The chrome has surface rust. Could use new tires, I think the ones on it are also original. The handbrake and grips are missing, otherwise it's all there. I'm not really interested in selling the Swing Bike out right, but if someone has a black Dyno Roadster to trade, I'd be very interested. Please email me at heavyg@warpnet.net
Thanks







MISC:   What is Memoy lane's web site ? posted by: Erick on 11/4/2001 at 6:26:48 AM
Hi , I am looking for memory lane's web site , what is it ? Thanks


   RE:MISC:   What is Memoy lane's web site ? posted by Jaymz on 11/4/2001 at 1:09:29 PM
http://www.memorylane-classics.com/






WANTED:   krate 5 spd chainguard posted by: AJ on 11/3/2001 at 7:09:15 PM
want to buy krate 5 spd chain guard







AGE / VALUE:   Super Deluxe Seat posted by: douglas on 11/3/2001 at 11:22:20 AM
Are the seats for 65 Super Deluxe white with sparkle or just plain white? Also the same question for 66? But I do know they are the deep ribbed seat.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Super Deluxe Seat posted by Johnny Sting-Ray on 11/4/2001 at 4:27:22 AM
white through about oct '65, then silver glitter starting about november '65 on through '66.






AGE / VALUE:   Early Muscle posted by: Mark on 11/2/2001 at 10:33:15 PM
Who knows who introduced the muscle bike after the Schwinn Stingray in 1963, what was it called, and when did it hit the streets?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Early Muscle posted by Doug on 11/3/2001 at 11:04:52 PM
Actually Schwinn was second to introduce the Stingray style bike Huffy was first but dropped the ball after that hundreds of look alike bikes came along.This is according to the national bicycle archives.






MISC:   Schwinn non-Chicago badge posted by: Tim on 10/31/2001 at 10:57:20 PM
Wanted to know if the non-Chicago headbadge on '63-'65 Stingrays has the letter R inside a circle for (Registered trademark) like the later badges had.


   RE:MISC:   Schwinn non-Chicago badge posted by Kevin C. on 11/1/2001 at 3:32:51 AM
Yes.