AGE / VALUE:   late 60's wheelie bar posted by: steven on 9/5/2003 at 1:35:54 PM
Hello, I'm intrested in locating wheelie bar mtg. unknown could be put on sting ray's i had on and want to buy another please if you have any idea where i can purchase on please email me.It would be nice to have complete box with it but not inportant
thanks steven


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   late 60's wheelie bar posted by JR on 9/10/2003 at 1:51:29 PM
I noticed they are making reproductions of the wheelie bars. I saw some information at
http://www.hyper-formance.com






AGE / VALUE:   late 60's wheelie bar posted by: steven on 9/5/2003 at 1:35:54 PM
Hello, I'm intrested in locating wheelie bar mtg. unknown could be put on sting ray's i had on and want to buy another please if you veiers have any idea where i can purchase on please email me.It would be nice to have complete box with it but not inportant
thanks steven


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   late 60's wheelie bar posted by chuck on 9/22/2003 at 1:26:02 PM
i dont know who that guy at hyperformance.com thinks he is but for $350, or even $250, the crap wheelie bars he's making arent worth $50. I would make the same setup he's got going with much better welds and craftsmanship for 1/2 the $ that he's charging, for anyone interested! what a rip-off artist!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   late 60's wheelie bar posted by Steve G on 10/17/2003 at 3:54:17 AM
check out his website. there's one picture that shows a side view of the wheelie bar and you can see ball bearings missing from the wheel! he wants $350 for these?!?






MISC:   Sears Screamer Parking Brake Help Needed posted by: Shannon Reynolds on 9/5/2003 at 7:56:58 AM
I have a Sears Screamer dual lever shifter/parking brake mounted to a F-Series Murray Eliminator. I do not know how to properly hook up the brake system on this console and would appreciate some help in doing so. I purchased the brake/shifter console without any of the original brake cables so I have no point of reference to start with. If anyone could write to me and tell me the proper way to go about it, or at the least link me a picture showing a properly set up brake linkage I would greatly appreciate it.







MISC:   Got the Trophies Today for Cent. Ill Show - Who's Going?? posted by: Matt on 9/5/2003 at 12:16:33 AM
Got some really nice trophies and ribbons for the show today. Seven Categories:
People's Choice
Best Pre-War
Best Middleweight
Best Stingray
Best Offbrand Musclebike
Best in Show
Also got the trophy for the infamous Musclebike Drag Race!!! Hopefully Fran won't wipe out on the motorized Orange Krate like last year. Even though this is a two day show, please come either day you can. I've got spaces left inside and out and you'll have a great time. Where are all the St. Louis area, Chicago area and Indianapolis area collectors??? The show is only 2 and a half hours from Indy, St. Louis and Chicago. Give me a call (815) 206-5977 and see you at the show!!!







AGE / VALUE:   Mossberg Bikes posted by: Jim on 9/4/2003 at 7:49:50 PM
I just purchased a Mossberg unicycle,I never had known they made such a critter. They made a varity of StingRay types and early English ,but I am lost on info. one the Unicycle.as to production#s and Value. anyone know anything about the Mossbergs bicycles,i have a few old Brochures ,but the unicycle is not shown, --Jim--







AGE / VALUE:   PERSONS SOLO POLO SADDLE posted by: Brian on 9/4/2003 at 5:12:05 PM
what is the difference between a 1963 and 1964 persons solo polo saddle.Please help.Thanks,Brian


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   PERSONS SOLO POLO SADDLE posted by ApeHangersAreCool on 9/4/2003 at 10:10:46 PM
I think its the year they were made that is different.

Really Sorry......couldnt resist :)

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   PERSONS SOLO POLO SADDLE posted by brian on 9/4/2003 at 11:04:47 PM
Good One

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   PERSONS SOLO POLO SADDLE posted by Drew on 9/5/2003 at 11:41:04 AM
I've seen both of the following type on original 63s and 64s. First type has the Persons tag on the back & no stamp on the pan, second type has no tag but is stamped Persons on the pan. I think Persons had both types in inventory in 63 and 64, shipping them out as orders came in. As far as I know either type is seen on 63 & 64 Stingrays.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   PERSONS SOLO POLO SADDLE posted by Brian on 9/5/2003 at 7:09:17 PM
Thanks a million.I greatly appreciate the info.






AGE / VALUE:   Murray Firecat CHopper posted by: Joey on 9/3/2003 at 3:27:10 PM
Anyone know how much an old murray firecat can be sold for. it has no seat but i am trying to track one down so as to sell for a little more
thanks


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murray Firecat CHopper posted by Chris on 9/20/2003 at 4:47:51 PM
Let me know when you are ready to sell, I have parts for 1 also, but no seat. Would be interested in what you have. Thanks






MISC:   Vista ,Sears,Scwinn ? posted by: Eldon Williamson on 9/1/2003 at 11:23:10 PM
I had a 20" emerald or metal flake green 5 speed with chrome fenders in the mid to late 60s. 68 or69 I think.
Did sears make a bike like this (banana seat)I think it might have been a vista,but I cant find any info on a 20" Vista.Did vista make such a bike ,? Do they still make bikes?I didn,t see vista in this web site under muscle bikes. Are all banana seat bikes listed under muscle bikes ?Thanks Eldon







MISC:   Vista ,Sears,Scwinn ? posted by: Eldon Williamson on 9/1/2003 at 11:23:10 PM
I had a 20" emerald or metal flake green 5 speed with chrome fenders in the mid to late 60s. 68 or69 I think.
Did sears make a bike like this (banana seat)I think it might have been a vista,but I cant find any info on a 20" Vista.Did vista make such a bike ,? Do they still make bikes?I didn,t see vista in this web site under muscle bikes. Are all banana seat bikes listed under muscle bikes ?Thanks Eldon







MISC:   Vista ,Sears,Scwinn ? posted by: Eldon Williamson on 9/1/2003 at 11:23:10 PM
I had a 20" emerald or metal flake green 5 speed with chrome fenders in the mid to late 60s. 68 or69 I think.
Did sears make a bike like this (banana seat)I think it might have been a vista,but I cant find any info on a 20" Vista.Did vista make such a bike ,? Do they still make bikes?I didn,t see vista in this web site under muscle bikes. Are all banana seat bikes listed under muscle bikes ?Thanks Eldon







AGE / VALUE:   Huffy "Star Spangled" posted by: DannyJoe on 9/1/2003 at 2:42:32 PM
Last night a friend showed me his new yard sale find, a Huffy "Star Spangled" musclebike. He paid $3(US) for it and being a new collector he wondered about the value. My guess would be it is a 1976 Bi-Centinial model(Red,white,blue) which may add some to the value of the bike. Would between $50-$100(US) be a fair price for this Huffy model.







FOR SALE:   Kent KMX 750 Dirt Bike early 70's posted by: Alex on 9/1/2003 at 3:12:17 AM
Hello, I have a Kent KMX 750 Bicycle for sale. It has front telescoping shocks and rear spring shocks. It is all original and in good shape. It is missing the front and rear fenders and gas tank.


   RE:FOR SALE:   Kent KMX 750 Dirt Bike early 70's posted by Dale on 10/20/2003 at 9:42:32 PM
I had one of these as a kid back in the 70's. How much are you asking ? Any pics ?






FOR SALE:   !970's huffy "flite" like lemon peeler posted by: earl pote on 9/1/2003 at 12:46:42 AM
its your lucky day, musclebike collectors, because do i have a bike for you. i have a beautiful mint yellow three speed stik shift huffy flite. it has no rust except for the back of the sprocket but it isnt even noticeable!!! this used to be my favorite bike until i got a schwinn orange krate... but this bike is in the best shape that it can be. one paint chip but thats all. i am asking $200.00 for this, i cant believe im selling it for this cheap. i bought is for $350.00 so you are getting a great deal. email me as soon as possible. thank you for reading!!!


   RE:FOR SALE:   !970's huffy posted by Brian on 9/15/2003 at 4:43:33 AM
Hi, can you e-mail pictures of this bike? Thanks, Brian






FOR SALE:   Kool Lemon 5 speed stick Fastback for sale posted by: JOE on 8/31/2003 at 12:04:48 PM
Real clean original 1973 paint, chrome tires etc $650.







AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by: Steve on 8/31/2003 at 3:58:06 AM
Does anyone out there know how to determine the year of a CCM by the serial numbers? I'm trying to crack the code here, and I would love some help! who ever wants to bother can send me the number off there CCM and a model name, approximate year, and any other info that may help. I'm restoring a few CCM musclebikes, and I am going to set up a CCM website eventually, any help would be greatly appretiated!! thank you!


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by Stuart on 9/2/2003 at 12:53:08 AM
I have a CCM Mustang ( not the Marauder) It is identical to the one my best friend got in 1971. Lime green. Mine is serial # C158657 I hope that is of help. Stu

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by steve on 9/2/2003 at 2:48:54 AM
thanks, I also have a lime green CCM with a number that starts with "C". I'm not sure if it's a mustang though, it has two thin top tubes that go past the steer tube a little bit.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by Stuart on 9/2/2003 at 7:21:07 PM
The "regular" Mustang has a single top tube and two smaller tubes to the rear wheels ( Standard bike frame style). However the small tubes have a dog leg in them up at the front so they turn down abruptly onto the lower tube so they are sort of hockey stick shaped ( how appropriate for a Canadian bike!) CCM reintroduced the Mustang a couple of years ago through Canadian Tire stores but it was a poor effort with cobbled up parts. The doglegs are missing on the "repro" bikes it doesn't have the CCM script sprocket and a low rise sissy bar. ( original ones had a tall straight bar that was slightly triangular. Stu

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by dave on 9/2/2003 at 9:35:13 PM
hey Steve, I own an origional gold 1969 CCM Mustang 3 spd. sportshift #k594022, rear hub is dated 9 of 68, This rare bike is 100% orig right down to the orig. valve stem caps with the red covers and is a 9+ cond. I can give you any #s you want off of this bike, rims, tires. ect. any info. you can give me would be great.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by dave on 9/2/2003 at 9:45:13 PM
I also have a 1975 3 spd. CCM foldup Purple in colour rear hub is dated 4 of 74 S# e751639

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by dave on 9/2/2003 at 9:54:04 PM
as far as I am know the double top bars are from a bike called a CCM Scrambler, And the first letter in the bikes S# is the month. ?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by Steve on 9/3/2003 at 3:16:26 AM
here's a couple pictures of bikes I have. I'm not sure the years, but the gold one is obviously a mustang. the green one is unknown to me, it could be a scrambler for all I know. CCM also built models with the names "rambler" and "charger" also.

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=114702

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=114703

as for years, I haven't figured that out yet. I've been told that up until 1960, the letter was a code designating the model year. I can only assume that it was the same through the 60's and 70's. by the way, where are you guys finding dates on your hubs? must be just the 3-speed ones, because all my old shimano hubs are dateless!

as for the new mustang, yeah it was kinda lame, but they stopped making tall sissy bars, stick shifts, and slicks for a reason. usually for safety reasons (yuk!!)-gone are the days when style meant more than common sense! so so sad!!

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by Stuart on 9/3/2003 at 3:36:02 AM
Well the gold one is definitely a Mustang. It may be a later '70's one ( my guess) as it appears to have a reflective tape stripe around the fork. My green one has has small CCM script and flourishes silk screened with paint on the front forks. My Shimano coaster hub has no date either, it has what looks like "333" or "555" and "Coaster Brake" on the hub ( presumably the hub model) and Shimano on the arm. Stu

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by Chris on 9/4/2003 at 12:42:47 AM
As we join hands and travel through time and space to Weston, Ontario back to the time when C.C.M. was cleaning house right before the sale and overhaul of the company we peer down into a metal trash container and we see boxes upon boxes of office material.
Papers, desks, files, owner coorespondence. 70 plus years of company history in the rubbish bin.
I am afraid that the serial number chart that we seek is in a file that is headed for landfil and today and now it is buried and it's too late.
Unless... Somebody got there.
Unless... it was never thrown out?
We can guess and do our best and I still wish but I'm afraid this info is lost forever.
I never got over there it happened before I could go look into it. I have never rubbed shoulders with any collector who has anything to say about what precisely happened to C.C.M.'s stuff.
I have met C.C.M. fans and there is quite a loyal following for a hundred year company's stuff but the actual tale, the story and the pictures told by the guy I meet at the old bike get togethers either in person or thru the web. That has not happened.
Ask everybody you know.
What happened on the scene when C.C.M. cleaned house before the razing of the site, who got what?
Perhaps we will hear the incredible tales one day.
Anyways, our mission ends in failure and we are bounced back to the present time where we will likely never get an answer from anybody today at what has become of C.C.M. the company.
Why?
I'm guessing here but.
It is all new, they changed, downsized are slimmer, leaner, meaner, up to date. In a new location, with new people. The old school C.C.M. folks retired, passed on or whatever.
I hear all to often there is nothing and nobody left from the old days. I'm afraid we may hear that with C.C.M.
Anyways, there is a real large following for it, the older stuff. It was the "Schwinn of Canada" and it's products was well loved in Canada.
They had factories everywhere and I have tricycle headset races in cotton bags. I could not bear to throw them away and I wish I could see all that it was and I'm sorry I do not have the serial number data.
As everybody you know in Canada. Somebody there can tell us perhaps.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by Dave on 9/4/2003 at 4:07:37 AM
cool bikes! I have only ever seen one Marauder befor. in 1971 all bikes came with reflectors in the pedals that is one way to get an idea of the age of your bike also the sportshift was replaced with a thumb shift in the early 70s. needless to say the earlier ones are most desireable nun the less they are almost impossible to find, Kids were trading in there cool muscle bikes for BMX so most of them went to the dump. As far as restoring an old Mustang or Maruder it would be almost impossible due to the fact you can not get parts eg. decals seats tires ect. I looked for a Mustang for four years I past one up about two years into my search because it had a thumb shifter (what was I thinking - STUPID!) Fortunatly I found the one I wanted ! mint 69 3sp sportshift. Anyway I do think the first letter is the month, the first # Im not sure, the second # I think is the year. What do you think ?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by steve on 9/4/2003 at 4:07:46 AM
spoken like a true collector.


   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by Tom on 9/4/2003 at 4:26:38 AM
I understand when the CCM plants closed down in Ont. the Museum Of Transportation in Ottawa got a lot of the bike info. They have pamphlets from all the years CCM bikes were made. I have not been there but do know a guy who was there. The bikes and info are not on display, but are in storage. They don't have the room to show the bike stuff. I would love to have a look at all of it but from what I hear there is tons of stuff. I live in Winnipeg and see a lot of CCM bikes, mostly old 28" ones but do see a few in 60's/70's stuff. This spring I saw a mint gold Mustang with the top bar shifter. Th only thing was that the guy cut the forks and extended them at least a foot. The bike was mint otherwise. Ther is a bike shop here that has a lot of old CCM and Raleigh stuff but he won't sell anything now. Bundles of 442 slick tires in the basement but they are not for sale. Seats and sissy bars too. Even cash waved in his face won't change his mind.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by steve on 9/4/2003 at 5:45:16 AM
"spoken like a true collector" comment was meant for Chris, Dave got in under the wire!

that pedal/reflector thing is good to know, and you may be right about the letter meaning month, because my bikes' numbers don't really jive too well with what I thought were approximate years. I'm still collecting info right now though.

hey Tom, I'm going to need that guy's address so I can send "my boys" down there to teach him some manners!! hoarding 442 slicks is just not right...

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   CCM serial numbers posted by Chris on 9/4/2003 at 6:55:56 PM
Please ask the guy that was there for the whole story. Ask him to log on here and tell us the tale or tape him telling the story and write it down and add it here so we know.
While I am unhappy to hear that the things are not on display at least the museaum used it's good name to acquire the collection so it was not lost.
It was not lost and for that I am very glad.
It is understandable that they do not have the space and perhaps whomever is in charge of it at present is not a "real bike fan" with the desire and drive. Remember that pedal bikes always get forgotten or barely mentioned if there are motorcycles about. That still happens.
Keep an eye on that place with all the old parts and save up that cash.
Why?
Because something will change. All of a sudden it will be a different situation and all of a sudden and literally in the space of 2-4 hours it will be cleaned out and trucked off to landfil and be gone.
Or another collector will be in there and buy it all up.
Somebody will pass on, or money worries, or the building will be sold or it will fall into the possession of somebody who does not care, somebody who does not know, does not appreciate it when it falls into their lap.
(and I qoute!)
COME GET THIS CRAP OUT OF MY HOUSE! (OR IN THIS CASE)
OUT OF MY BUILDING!
Pardon me here, and I know I may draw fire from females here but due to my personal experience I say this while acknowledging the growing number of gals into old bikes.

Some woman will get ahold of it after somebody passes on and because it is not furniture or dishes or because it is a thing that the next owner does not care about passionately it will be thrown out.
They will be concentrating on readying the property for sale and this treasure trove of goodies will be in their way.
Have you gave him your card? Have you met the daughter and wife and son in law? Do you know who they are so you can go over or around his head. Have you carefully said; Call me and I'll offer you a fair deal, when and if.
Do you have an alternate address like a home address and a home phone number?
Have you gone in there with enough money in hand to try to get him out of this "pot hole of a mindset" or are you going to have to wait until something else changes?
If you don't stay on this and keep an eye peeled and be ready at a moments notice (with cash) you will lose out.

Look, I played thru Canada and know it well and old shops like this are few and far between. If I missed this one and I am no punk (and was not then either) then you are onto something big here.
Don't screw it up and fail us. And when you do make good I want to hear the story. (please)
Have a truck, be ready, don't be a pest but stay on it.

I can just imagine this basement!
Bring a flashlight, a big truck, six muscular men, a lot of cash and don't fall down the stairs. Be thourough and complete. Is there an attic, off site storage unit?
Wharehouse. Ask a jillion questions!
Oh My! Good Luck, Grasshopper!